Its a sad day when you can't laugh at the US for electing Trump, because we are doing the same over here.

Imagine being in a coma and waking up in 2019. You would be begging to be put back under.

Not if you are a Wolves fan

Ha, very true

While the majority of people in the world are praying in vain for Trump to be impeached, I wonder if we have such a thing as impeachment here? And if we did would we be as dumb as America and allow the decision to be based not on law but on party political choices

Yes

There is a worrying bit in the Tory manifesto which basically says they want to be able to stop the courts interfering like they did with the proroguing of parliament. Basically they want to be unaccountable to anyone, even the law.

The law is an ass.

Most laws are 300 to 400 years old, its as big a farce as VAR.

May as well just allow politicians to break them then.

Difficult to say which is the biggest lie, what the tories are saying they want to happen or what the commies want to promise us all for free - we've not got a very good choice of candidates/parties i don't think

comment by ☠ Tube of Lies ☕ (U16473)
posted 21 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted about a minute ago
Maupay looks a decent player to be fair. Good touch and quite quick
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He was our bête noire last season when 'uddersfeeld visited.
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which is an amazing fact seeing as he played for Brentford last season, I believe you may be getting him mixed up with Mr Mooy

comment by mike_hockin (rebel without a clue) (U8866)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by ☠ Tube of Lies ☕ (U16473)
posted 21 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted about a minute ago
Maupay looks a decent player to be fair. Good touch and quite quick
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He was our bête noire last season when 'uddersfeeld visited.
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which is an amazing fact seeing as he played for Brentford last season, I believe you may be getting him mixed up with Mr Mooy
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Ha ha - yes - it's all tsohe mldide ltreets in his nmae. Tehy rokecn you can mix tehm up and as lnog as you hvae the fsirt and lsat in the rhgit pcale its siltl rdabaele...

comment by mike_hockin (rebel without a clue) (U8866)
posted 14 minutes ago

...what the commies want to promise us all for free...
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Like the NHS. Whatever happened to that Labour concept.

I know the idea that politicians may tell the odd porkie to secure your vote is nothing new, but the way that Johnson in particular is spouting off any old nonsense, often contradicting himself and passing it off as fact is jaw dropping. More incredible though is the fact that people are buying it and will vote for him "because he gets things done". Yes, like introducing a customs border actually within the United Kingdom (which he now denies apparently) and will most likely turn out to be one of the most disasterous and irresponsible political decisions ever taken by a British Prime Minister.

And dont get me started on Corbyn and McDonald, lets just say, Ive read their manifesto and as a work of fantasy its a very good read, but not fit for purpose in the real world.

comment by ☠ Tube of Lies ☕ (U16473)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by mike_hockin (rebel without a clue) (U8866)
posted 14 minutes ago

...what the commies want to promise us all for free...
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Like the NHS. Whatever happened to that Labour concept.
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doesn't work very well compared to the german system of compulsory employer/employee insurance.

comment by Oldgoldilox - 1 Carl Ikeme (U17303)
posted 40 minutes ago
I know the idea that politicians may tell the odd porkie to secure your vote is nothing new, but the way that Johnson in particular is spouting off any old nonsense, often contradicting himself and passing it off as fact is jaw dropping. More incredible though is the fact that people are buying it and will vote for him "because he gets things done". Yes, like introducing a customs border actually within the United Kingdom (which he now denies apparently) and will most likely turn out to be one of the most disasterous and irresponsible political decisions ever taken by a British Prime Minister.

And dont get me started on Corbyn and McDonald, lets just say, Ive read their manifesto and as a work of fantasy its a very good read, but not fit for purpose in the real world.
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Not even sure it’s ‘getting things done’ that will see Boris get the most seats. I think it’s much more to do with the unelectable alternative

comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Oldgoldilox - 1 Carl Ikeme (U17303)
posted 40 minutes ago
I know the idea that politicians may tell the odd porkie to secure your vote is nothing new, but the way that Johnson in particular is spouting off any old nonsense, often contradicting himself and passing it off as fact is jaw dropping. More incredible though is the fact that people are buying it and will vote for him "because he gets things done". Yes, like introducing a customs border actually within the United Kingdom (which he now denies apparently) and will most likely turn out to be one of the most disasterous and irresponsible political decisions ever taken by a British Prime Minister.

And dont get me started on Corbyn and McDonald, lets just say, Ive read their manifesto and as a work of fantasy its a very good read, but not fit for purpose in the real world.
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Not even sure it’s ‘getting things done’ that will see Boris get the most seats. I think it’s much more to do with the unelectable alternative
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Press have done a good job on Corbyn. Like they did on Miliband before him. I doubt we will ever see them say a Labour leader is electable again.

comment by Oldgoldilox - 1 Carl Ikeme (U17303)
posted about an hour ago
I know the idea that politicians may tell the odd porkie to secure your vote is nothing new, but the way that Johnson in particular is spouting off any old nonsense, often contradicting himself and passing it off as fact is jaw dropping. More incredible though is the fact that people are buying it and will vote for him "because he gets things done". Yes, like introducing a customs border actually within the United Kingdom (which he now denies apparently) and will most likely turn out to be one of the most disasterous and irresponsible political decisions ever taken by a British Prime Minister.

And dont get me started on Corbyn and McDonald, lets just say, Ive read their manifesto and as a work of fantasy its a very good read, but not fit for purpose in the real world.
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the thing that annoys me most is how Johnson is allowed to get away with passing his withdrawal agreement as a trade deal, without being challenged. He keeps saying he has a great deal and will get Brexit done, when the truth is that we will be in trade deal for years. Brexit won't be done for a decade or more.

comment by Uli Fritz (U8869)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by ☠ Tube of Lies ☕ (U16473)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by mike_hockin (rebel without a clue) (U8866)
posted 14 minutes ago

...what the commies want to promise us all for free...
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Like the NHS. Whatever happened to that Labour concept.
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doesn't work very well compared to the german system of compulsory employer/employee insurance.
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How does compulsory employer/employee insurance work if you are unemployed or retired?
Asking for a friend

Still compulsory but contribution varies with income

comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
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Not even sure it’s ‘getting things done’ that will see Boris get the most seats. I think it’s much more to do with the unelectable alternative
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Interesting remark there DJ. Especially as you mocked the USA for electing the clown we have in office right now. Hillary was regarded by many as "unelectable" too

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 5 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Oldgoldilox - 1 Carl Ikeme (U17303)
posted about an hour ago
I know the idea that politicians may tell the odd porkie to secure your vote is nothing new, but the way that Johnson in particular is spouting off any old nonsense, often contradicting himself and passing it off as fact is jaw dropping. More incredible though is the fact that people are buying it and will vote for him "because he gets things done". Yes, like introducing a customs border actually within the United Kingdom (which he now denies apparently) and will most likely turn out to be one of the most disasterous and irresponsible political decisions ever taken by a British Prime Minister.

And dont get me started on Corbyn and McDonald, lets just say, Ive read their manifesto and as a work of fantasy its a very good read, but not fit for purpose in the real world.
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the thing that annoys me most is how Johnson is allowed to get away with passing his withdrawal agreement as a trade deal, without being challenged. He keeps saying he has a great deal and will get Brexit done, when the truth is that we will be in trade deal for years. Brexit won't be done for a decade or more.
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Correct. As well as the dozens of other trading nations that we will need to negotiate deals with outside of the EU.

I respect Corbyn to a degree, he appears to be a principled bloke with deeply held convictions which he lives by. There are very few like him left in politics. I can only refer however to one of the few things that I know something about which is the energy market and what Labour are proposing in wanting to nationalise it is simply unworkable.
I could bore with the detail but you wouldnt thank me for it.

Appreciated Goldi

Problem with politics is that morons are allowed to vote and with social media the way it is now they are very easily led