What do whales eat? Fish and ships.

Weve had enough of vegans trying to push us from the top of the food chain to the bottom.

We have already had feminists trying to push us to the bottom of the gender chain.

We have had foriegners trying to push us to the bottom of the race chain.

Its time too fight back were not aloud to be white anymore cos its offensive trying to ban men weve had ENOUGH

comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 3 hours, 48 minutes ago
Greggs vegan sausage roll is nicer than their normal one

We should all cut down our meat consumption to help fight global warming
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i'd do it if i was guaranteed the rest of the 7.7 billion would i'd also agree to 1 child per person until the population is down to a sustainable number like 2 billion, but none of this is going to happen and its too late

If vegans stop breeding then veganism will die out and what will that mean for fixed gear bike sales??

Surely veganism should be classed as a mental illness instead?

Their trying to save are planet apparently the same planet we pay for with are taxes and they dont

Good for them! I was vegetarian for ten years, on and off vegan periodically, and I never felt more healthy.
Met a northern lass who is dab hand in the kitchen, plus the take away down the road has the dirtiest burger and I’m now overweight and get tired walking up the stairs 😅.

Haven't vegans not seen Bee Movie?

Not eating honey will ruin the environment.

comment by Paulpowersleftfoot (U1037)
posted 5 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - I can't see me loving nobody but Leeds! (U9955)
posted 5 minutes ago
Ain't vegan people just women from London under the age of 30?
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I’ve been vegan since the 80’s
Not from London,gashfree & in my 50s so that theory is blown 😊


I didn’t know anyone else vegan for many years,nowadays in a group of people it’s unusual for there not to be at least one vegan
Probably a fad for many but it’s far easier to be vegan now with plenty of options available
We never ate out because nowhere catered for vegans,now you can eat more or less anywhere

My kids aren’t vegan, I’ve never believed in forcing ideals on anybody so as the chef in the house I’ve cooked more bacon butties,racks of lamb and pork chops than any poor soul should have to have done
Secretly like the smell of bacon though 😳


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I'm also a vegan, but unlike you, I've brought up my kids as veggies (not vegan). I was also brought up as a veggie, and neither I or my siblings were ever seriously ill. We're all over 6ft (even my sister) so not eating meat didn't stunt our growth or our development like some people claim. I did eat meat for a short while when I started boozing but I knocked it on the head by the time I was 20. My Mum has been a vegetarian for over 50 years, but luckily for us, she is a very good cook so we had a wide variety of food options. Being a veggie or even a vegan today is a doddle as there are loads of options. I popped into Sainsbury's yesterday for milk and spent over £50 on none meat options that I hadn't seen before.

I've just discovered this

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Buy-Whole-Foods-Online-Gluten/dp/B007CX0ZSK

This stuff makes the best veggie burgers ever, and it's high in protein.

Most vegetarians I have known over the years have had worse flatulence than meat eaters. The reason they say not to eat meat is because of the anmals flatulence. All being a vegan is doing is cutting out the middle man (animal). If we have to stop breeding animals for food because they fart too much surely we should also stop breeding vegans as they fart too much as well.

comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 13 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 3 hours, 48 minutes ago
Greggs vegan sausage roll is nicer than their normal one

We should all cut down our meat consumption to help fight global warming
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i'd do it if i was guaranteed the rest of the 7.7 billion wouldi'd also agree to 1 child per person until the population is down to a sustainable number like 2 billion, but none of this is going to happen and its too late
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And everyone says I'll do it when the other 7.7bn do.

And so nothing happens. A disastrous and insane way to live life and while I agree it's pretty much a case of too little too late, the faster people change the better chance we stand.

So do your bit, talk about it and inspire others who actually see the change starting to happen, and perhaps we can limit some of the catastrophe..

I mentioned earlier that I was gonna try a Vegan Sausage roll from greggs . It was very good.

There was a story when a Vegan got served a normal sausage roll by mistake.The girl was distressed etc etc.

There must be different levels of Veganism in which they will not buy from a restaurant or take away that also sells meat.
The issue of using the same pots and utensils to handle the meat and non meat products is a big thing with some people.
The likes of KFC Subway and Burger King are on the Vegan bandwagon. Should vegans really spend heir money in these places and just stick to Home Cooking
or pure veg/vegan establishments.

Supermarkets are different though

Veganism can be a good thing when practiced sensibly, however the ethical arguments for it are shaky and the environmental arguments are often very short-sighted and don't look at the whole life cycle of vegan food.

Our problem is not meat per se, but mass consumerism. Swapping out meat for exotic sources of protein and flavourful foods such as tofu, quinoa, jackfruit etc. which rack up thousands of air miles and price out locals who depend on these staple foods, is not the solution. The solution is to import less and rely on local, seasonal, sustainable food sources. Your local farm for instance.

These are the same shallow arguments we have with plastics and other "non-green" products. I was told by an industry insider that at one particular plant, they are manufacturing virgin plastics and then selling them immediately to a recycling plant to be broken down and re-used. The reason being that public demand for recycled plastics has gone through the roof and this one particular company can't keep up with production from just reclaimed plastics alone. So we have this perverse situation where an astonishing amount of waste goes into producing something that people then mass-consume for its "green" credentials.

The same kind of barmy practices will happen if people keep pushing veganism without analysing the environmental impacts thoroughly.

The meat industry imports and exports produce too. Live animals are transported all over Europe, for example. NZ lamb was quite the thing when I was younger - perhaps still so?

Becoming vegan is merely a step in the right direction, rather than a solution in itself.

‘A 1/3-pound burger requires 660 gallons of water.’

How many burgers do McDonalds, Burger King, Wendy’s etc throw away every single day? And have you seen McDonald’s pathetic attempt at cashing in on Veganuary?

It’s 2020 ffs, yet they’ve created something that would’ve looked more at home in the early ‘90s

It’s almost as if they don’t really want people to be tempted to become vegan at all...

I've not defended the meat industry.

Becoming vegan isn't a step in the right direction if you haven't actually worked out the difference in environmental impact in doing so. It's a lot more complex than just looking at solitary statistics about water usage etc. (nature already has a fantastic process for recycling water).

For each method of farming you would have to look at:
-the raw materials consumption required
-the emissions caused locally
-the impact on local biodiversity
-the impact on local economies
-the impact of storing the produce
-the impact of transporting the produce
all on a mass-production level

Right now, veganism is still a minority lifestyle. It's difficult to understand the impact of mass-producing high-protein vegan food because we've never done it before.

Not to mention the long-term mental health effects of cutting animal products out of your diet entirely. We evolved to extract the majority of our nutritional needs from animal products, much like a large chunk of the rest of the animal kingdom. You cannot expect to over-ride tens of thousands of years of biological evolution and not face problems that are bodies are not yet adapted for.

‘ Not to mention the long-term mental health effects of cutting animal products out of your diet entirely’

Wow, not even sure where to go with this tbh. Can only assume you’re either on the wind up, or haven’t really thought this through.

As for the rest of your post, that’s more of an over-population issue, than a dietary / ‘life style’ (by the way, seriously?!) one.

comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 44 minutes ago
‘ Not to mention the long-term mental health effects of cutting animal products out of your diet entirely’

Wow, not even sure where to go with this tbh. Can only assume you’re either on the wind up, or haven’t really thought this through.
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Read about it:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/diagnosis-diet/201709/the-vegan-brain

This is an area where the science is quite light at the moment but we will continue to learn more as veganism becomes more mainstream. Of course, it should be no surprise that nutrition plays a massive role in mental function, given that the brain is an organ just like any other.

Mental wellbeing is a major issue across all walks of life, and has been for a long while now - it’s only recently been recognised as such, which in itself hugely undermines the article you linked. Add to that it was almost certainly commissioned by an industry up to its neck in animal testing, tbh it’s hard to take it seriously.

Considering we’re posting on an article about veganism being legally recognised as a belief, I find it remarkable you refer to it as a lifestyle and still expect me to take you seriously.

As for your previous post about raw materials, emissions, biodiversity etc... three words for you:

Rainforests
Brazil
Beef burgers

If you’re genuinely interested in doing a bit more research into the subject, maybe give The Game Changers a spin. Personally I found it a little repetitive - though a basis message was interesting. But I know of at least 4 friends and work colleagues who’ve watched it and changed to vegan diets in the last few months.

Give it a go. You never know til you try...

I'm not sure you're arguing against what I've said

1. Yes it's an issue across all walks of life. Nutrition affects mental wellbeing. Deciding to radically alter one's nutrition sources without understanding the long-term impacts of it can lead to consequences that we cannot yet account for.

2. A belief is a mental concept. The eating habits which result from that are a lifestyle. Given that my original points were mostly about the eating aspect, and not the belief aspect, I don't see the relevance of your argument.

3. Rainforests/Brazil/beef burgers - again, I'm not sure what you're picking an argument with. The impacts of the meat industry are well-documented. The impacts of a large-scale switchover to an alternative protein-heavy vegan industry, not so much. Before deciding that the latter is greener, you would have to perform a thorough impact analysis.

I think you've jumped the gun a bit and gone into attack mode without having read what I've posted.

Pc gone mad

'Yes it's an issue across all walks of life.'

So you've no real basis for an argument here then.


'A belief is a mental concept. The eating habits which result from that are a lifestyle.'

Ethical veganism goes a lot deeper that merely a dietary requirement.


'The impacts of the meat industry are well-documented. The impacts of a large-scale switchover to an alternative protein-heavy vegan industry, not so much.'

In other words you're trying to argue facts against fear.


'I think you've jumped the gun a bit and gone into attack mode'

If that's the way it came across, then I apologise. Tbh everyone has their own choices to make. I made mine later in life than I would've, were I to do this all again. Whether people become vegan or not is of little concern to me.

It's unfortunate that Bellerin was chosen as an illustration because he is certainly a player that seems to lack testosterone