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it's so easy for people to overreact on social media.
things written today are the same things said years ago but those people were only heard by a few people and sobered up the next day.
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I'd also question as to why the op thinks the club is toxic?
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It’s the impression I get just at the club at the moment.
Arguments amongst fans inside and outside the stadium. Yes I’ve been there and witnessed it
Fans cheering when they heard Lingard had been subbed
Pogba appearing that he doesn’t want to be at the club
Young not wanting to be at the club
Jones turning down a testimonial as he was concerned of the reaction from fans
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Do you not feel it’s toxic at this moment in time?
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No I don't. I'd say the players are together, with the exception of Pogba obviously wanting out. But even then I'd be surprised if there is any I'll feeling to him within the squad. He appears to be well liked. Jones doesn't want the testimonial because he knows he doesn't deserve it. Young probably wants a chance to play abroad and to play regularly.
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And the reaction of the fans in the stadium?
The board?
Players wanting out?
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I've already addressed the players wanting out. A few fans cheering when an underperforming player is subbed isn't a big deal. What about the board?
From what I've read the players that want out, other than Pogba, aren't first choice and want first team football. Rojo, Matic and Young are players most fans wanted shipped out (along with a few others, i.e. Jones).
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a ... (U22311)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
SAF was apparently fuming the other night.
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Is he still smoking after his operation? tsk tsk.
comment by Coutinho's Merkin (U22212)
posted 3 hours, 58 minutes ago
Not to worry. We’ll keep the perch nice and warm
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you'll need to win the league 3 times before you can even start claiming to be on a perch.
not that it stops your deluded fan base tbh
It certainly doesn’t look a happy camp at the moment.
We've not been a happy camp majority of the time since SAF retired.
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 6 hours, 26 minutes ago
comment by Coutinho's Merkin (U22212)
posted 3 hours, 58 minutes ago
Not to worry. We’ll keep the perch nice and warm
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you'll need to win the league 3 times before you can even start claiming to be on a perch.
not that it stops your deluded fan base tbh
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Why do we need to win the league 3 times to be on our perch?
I've seen some mental gymnastics on here in recent years but this one takes the cookie. We just win the Champions League, Super cup and are world champions. Meanwhile United are a certified Ropey league team and have missed out on Champions league football for 3 of the last 6 years and this year will be 4 of the last 7.
If we wrap up the league title then that's even higher than the perch saan.
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 6 hours, 26 minutes ago
comment by Coutinho's Merkin (U22212)
posted 3 hours, 58 minutes ago
Not to worry. We’ll keep the perch nice and warm
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you'll need to win the league 3 times before you can even start claiming to be on a perch.
not that it stops your deluded fan base tbh
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Why do we need to win the league 3 times to be on our perch?
I've seen some mental gymnastics on here in recent years but this one takes the cookie. We just win the Champions League, Super cup and are world champions. Meanwhile United are a certified Ropey league team and have missed out on Champions league football for 3 of the last 6 years and this year will be 4 of the last 7.
If we wrap up the league title then that's even higher than the perch saan.
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Ermmm because when Fergie was talking about the “perch” I’m assuming he was referring to how many leagues each team had won.
You’ve been successful for one season, in fact even Arsenal have won more trophies than you in the last decade.
Carry on winning and you’ll reclaim it... π€·π½βοΈ
Let him rot on the sides lines then
Just release him. Worth nothing anyway.
comment by Kung Fu Cantona ππΌ π΅πΈ (U18082)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 10 minutes ago
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posted 6 hours, 26 minutes ago
comment by Coutinho's Merkin (U22212)
posted 3 hours, 58 minutes ago
Not to worry. We’ll keep the perch nice and warm
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you'll need to win the league 3 times before you can even start claiming to be on a perch.
not that it stops your deluded fan base tbh
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Why do we need to win the league 3 times to be on our perch?
I've seen some mental gymnastics on here in recent years but this one takes the cookie. We just win the Champions League, Super cup and are world champions. Meanwhile United are a certified Ropey league team and have missed out on Champions league football for 3 of the last 6 years and this year will be 4 of the last 7.
If we wrap up the league title then that's even higher than the perch saan.
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Ermmm because when Fergie was talking about the “perch” I’m assuming he was referring to how many leagues each team had won.
You’ve been successful for one season, in fact even Arsenal have won more trophies than you in the last decade.
Carry on winning and you’ll reclaim it... π€·π½βοΈ
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Why do you assume that?
Is Fergie now the authority on perches? What criteria did Fergie use to determine at what point Liverpool were knocked off?
When Fergie made that comment United were still nowhere near Liverpool's 18 titles and United have not got close to Liverpool's European trophy haul in all of Fergie's time.
Not being funny but if Liverpool are able to wrap up the league title this season (and who knows, we're still in the FA cup and CL) then I think it would be deluded to suggest Liverpool are not back on their perch.
To be fair to the guy, he gives 100% every time he plays yet still gets dogs abuse from people.
You can think people aren't good enough, whether it be Young, Jones, Ole etc... but don't abuse them for it every week. We're called supporters for a reason.
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 28 minutes ago
To be fair to the guy, he gives 100% every time he plays yet still gets dogs abuse from people.
You can think people aren't good enough, whether it be Young, Jones, Ole etc... but don't abuse them for it every week. We're called supporters for a reason.
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Agree. Especially the likes of those mentioned who actually put in 100%.
Of all the experienced players we have, Young has probably been the most professional of the lot.
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
To be fair to the guy, he gives 100% every time he plays yet still gets dogs abuse from people.
You can think people aren't good enough, whether it be Young, Jones, Ole etc... but don't abuse them for it every week. We're called supporters for a reason.
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I find it hard to believe even saf thought he'd win so many league titles without Liverpool winning 1 when he made that comment.
To be fair to the guy, he gives 100% every time he plays yet still gets dogs abuse from people.
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Giving 100% every time you play is an expectation, not something to squirt over someone on.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 16 hours, 5 minutes ago
You've got to be pretty daft to even consider that this might be true. Whatever you think about Young as a player, he has always been very professional and tried his hardest for the team. His attitude is not in question for me. No way he says anything like this.
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How can you say that with certainty?
Koscielny was with us the same length of time you guys have had Young and went on strike in the Summer just to get away from Emery. Regardless of what you think of Kos, he was a loyal, top professional but still left like a cant at the very end so is it so wild to think Young is capable of doing the same?
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
To be fair to the guy, he gives 100% every time he plays yet still gets dogs abuse from people.
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Giving 100% every time you play is an expectation, not something to squirt over someone on.
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I never said it was to be fair, but is being deemed not good enough a good reason to abuse someone?
I dont know if he gets dogs abuse
He gets criticism and tbf its warranted a lot of the time
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
To be fair to the guy, he gives 100% every time he plays yet still gets dogs abuse from people.
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Giving 100% every time you play is an expectation, not something to squirt over someone on.
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I never said it was to be fair, but is being deemed not good enough a good reason to abuse someone?
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I think it's more of a frustration with the club as much as anything. How did we get to a point a 34 year old Ashley Young is our rb/lb for 30 games a season?
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
To be fair to the guy, he gives 100% every time he plays yet still gets dogs abuse from people.
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Giving 100% every time you play is an expectation, not something to squirt over someone on.
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I never said it was to be fair, but is being deemed not good enough a good reason to abuse someone?
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I think it's more of a frustration with the club as much as anything. How did we get to a point a 34 year old Ashley Young is our rb/lb for 30 games a season?
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Oh yeah I completely agree with that, it's not been good from the club
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posted on 9/1/20
Abuse our own fans give our players on social media
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it's so easy for people to overreact on social media.
things written today are the same things said years ago but those people were only heard by a few people and sobered up the next day.
posted on 9/1/20
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 5 minutes ago
I'd also question as to why the op thinks the club is toxic?
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It’s the impression I get just at the club at the moment.
Arguments amongst fans inside and outside the stadium. Yes I’ve been there and witnessed it
Fans cheering when they heard Lingard had been subbed
Pogba appearing that he doesn’t want to be at the club
Young not wanting to be at the club
Jones turning down a testimonial as he was concerned of the reaction from fans
Abuse our own fans give our players on social media
Ed Woodward
Glazers
Do you not feel it’s toxic at this moment in time?
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No I don't. I'd say the players are together, with the exception of Pogba obviously wanting out. But even then I'd be surprised if there is any I'll feeling to him within the squad. He appears to be well liked. Jones doesn't want the testimonial because he knows he doesn't deserve it. Young probably wants a chance to play abroad and to play regularly.
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And the reaction of the fans in the stadium?
The board?
Players wanting out?
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I've already addressed the players wanting out. A few fans cheering when an underperforming player is subbed isn't a big deal. What about the board?
posted on 9/1/20
From what I've read the players that want out, other than Pogba, aren't first choice and want first team football. Rojo, Matic and Young are players most fans wanted shipped out (along with a few others, i.e. Jones).
posted on 10/1/20
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a ... (U22311)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
SAF was apparently fuming the other night.
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Is he still smoking after his operation? tsk tsk.
posted on 10/1/20
comment by Coutinho's Merkin (U22212)
posted 3 hours, 58 minutes ago
Not to worry. We’ll keep the perch nice and warm
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you'll need to win the league 3 times before you can even start claiming to be on a perch.
not that it stops your deluded fan base tbh
posted on 10/1/20
It certainly doesn’t look a happy camp at the moment.
posted on 10/1/20
We've not been a happy camp majority of the time since SAF retired.
posted on 10/1/20
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 6 hours, 26 minutes ago
comment by Coutinho's Merkin (U22212)
posted 3 hours, 58 minutes ago
Not to worry. We’ll keep the perch nice and warm
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you'll need to win the league 3 times before you can even start claiming to be on a perch.
not that it stops your deluded fan base tbh
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Why do we need to win the league 3 times to be on our perch?
I've seen some mental gymnastics on here in recent years but this one takes the cookie. We just win the Champions League, Super cup and are world champions. Meanwhile United are a certified Ropey league team and have missed out on Champions league football for 3 of the last 6 years and this year will be 4 of the last 7.
If we wrap up the league title then that's even higher than the perch saan.
posted on 10/1/20
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 6 hours, 26 minutes ago
comment by Coutinho's Merkin (U22212)
posted 3 hours, 58 minutes ago
Not to worry. We’ll keep the perch nice and warm
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you'll need to win the league 3 times before you can even start claiming to be on a perch.
not that it stops your deluded fan base tbh
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Why do we need to win the league 3 times to be on our perch?
I've seen some mental gymnastics on here in recent years but this one takes the cookie. We just win the Champions League, Super cup and are world champions. Meanwhile United are a certified Ropey league team and have missed out on Champions league football for 3 of the last 6 years and this year will be 4 of the last 7.
If we wrap up the league title then that's even higher than the perch saan.
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Ermmm because when Fergie was talking about the “perch” I’m assuming he was referring to how many leagues each team had won.
You’ve been successful for one season, in fact even Arsenal have won more trophies than you in the last decade.
Carry on winning and you’ll reclaim it... π€·π½βοΈ
posted on 10/1/20
Let him rot on the sides lines then
posted on 10/1/20
Just release him. Worth nothing anyway.
posted on 10/1/20
comment by Kung Fu Cantona ππΌ π΅πΈ (U18082)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 6 hours, 26 minutes ago
comment by Coutinho's Merkin (U22212)
posted 3 hours, 58 minutes ago
Not to worry. We’ll keep the perch nice and warm
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you'll need to win the league 3 times before you can even start claiming to be on a perch.
not that it stops your deluded fan base tbh
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Why do we need to win the league 3 times to be on our perch?
I've seen some mental gymnastics on here in recent years but this one takes the cookie. We just win the Champions League, Super cup and are world champions. Meanwhile United are a certified Ropey league team and have missed out on Champions league football for 3 of the last 6 years and this year will be 4 of the last 7.
If we wrap up the league title then that's even higher than the perch saan.
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Ermmm because when Fergie was talking about the “perch” I’m assuming he was referring to how many leagues each team had won.
You’ve been successful for one season, in fact even Arsenal have won more trophies than you in the last decade.
Carry on winning and you’ll reclaim it... π€·π½βοΈ
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Why do you assume that?
Is Fergie now the authority on perches? What criteria did Fergie use to determine at what point Liverpool were knocked off?
When Fergie made that comment United were still nowhere near Liverpool's 18 titles and United have not got close to Liverpool's European trophy haul in all of Fergie's time.
Not being funny but if Liverpool are able to wrap up the league title this season (and who knows, we're still in the FA cup and CL) then I think it would be deluded to suggest Liverpool are not back on their perch.
posted on 10/1/20
To be fair to the guy, he gives 100% every time he plays yet still gets dogs abuse from people.
You can think people aren't good enough, whether it be Young, Jones, Ole etc... but don't abuse them for it every week. We're called supporters for a reason.
posted on 10/1/20
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 28 minutes ago
To be fair to the guy, he gives 100% every time he plays yet still gets dogs abuse from people.
You can think people aren't good enough, whether it be Young, Jones, Ole etc... but don't abuse them for it every week. We're called supporters for a reason.
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Agree. Especially the likes of those mentioned who actually put in 100%.
Of all the experienced players we have, Young has probably been the most professional of the lot.
posted on 10/1/20
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
To be fair to the guy, he gives 100% every time he plays yet still gets dogs abuse from people.
You can think people aren't good enough, whether it be Young, Jones, Ole etc... but don't abuse them for it every week. We're called supporters for a reason.
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posted on 10/1/20
I find it hard to believe even saf thought he'd win so many league titles without Liverpool winning 1 when he made that comment.
posted on 10/1/20
To be fair to the guy, he gives 100% every time he plays yet still gets dogs abuse from people.
....................
Giving 100% every time you play is an expectation, not something to squirt over someone on.
posted on 10/1/20
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 16 hours, 5 minutes ago
You've got to be pretty daft to even consider that this might be true. Whatever you think about Young as a player, he has always been very professional and tried his hardest for the team. His attitude is not in question for me. No way he says anything like this.
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How can you say that with certainty?
Koscielny was with us the same length of time you guys have had Young and went on strike in the Summer just to get away from Emery. Regardless of what you think of Kos, he was a loyal, top professional but still left like a cant at the very end so is it so wild to think Young is capable of doing the same?
posted on 10/1/20
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
To be fair to the guy, he gives 100% every time he plays yet still gets dogs abuse from people.
....................
Giving 100% every time you play is an expectation, not something to squirt over someone on.
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I never said it was to be fair, but is being deemed not good enough a good reason to abuse someone?
posted on 10/1/20
I dont know if he gets dogs abuse
He gets criticism and tbf its warranted a lot of the time
posted on 10/1/20
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
To be fair to the guy, he gives 100% every time he plays yet still gets dogs abuse from people.
....................
Giving 100% every time you play is an expectation, not something to squirt over someone on.
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I never said it was to be fair, but is being deemed not good enough a good reason to abuse someone?
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I think it's more of a frustration with the club as much as anything. How did we get to a point a 34 year old Ashley Young is our rb/lb for 30 games a season?
posted on 10/1/20
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
To be fair to the guy, he gives 100% every time he plays yet still gets dogs abuse from people.
....................
Giving 100% every time you play is an expectation, not something to squirt over someone on.
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I never said it was to be fair, but is being deemed not good enough a good reason to abuse someone?
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I think it's more of a frustration with the club as much as anything. How did we get to a point a 34 year old Ashley Young is our rb/lb for 30 games a season?
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Oh yeah I completely agree with that, it's not been good from the club
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