Typical Arsenal, need a defender that leads and defends first.
Go for John Stones, who can't lead or defend but can pass forward. A younger schitter version of David Luiz.
comment by somethingelse (U3109)
posted 4 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Gillespie Road. (U18361)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by somethingelse (U3109)
posted 19 minutes ago
Doesn't make any sense for City ,does he want any other top players from his old club,maybe the whole squad would help arsenal
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Makes a lot of sense for a club who can easily afford to ship in a matching set of £70m CBs without batting an eyelid.
It makes sense to clear up some room by farming a recovering player out to a non-competing club on a short-term loan. Especially if he ends up claiming points from the sides around City.
It's too bad Arsenal are skint at the moment. Only way this deal happens is if City subsidise his wages.
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this "deal" gets better and better doesnt it
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So we are not paying for him in anyway and with an option to buy for half the price? Yeah do it! Whats the downside?
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by somethingelse (U3109)
posted 4 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Gillespie Road. (U18361)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by somethingelse (U3109)
posted 19 minutes ago
Doesn't make any sense for City ,does he want any other top players from his old club,maybe the whole squad would help arsenal
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Makes a lot of sense for a club who can easily afford to ship in a matching set of £70m CBs without batting an eyelid.
It makes sense to clear up some room by farming a recovering player out to a non-competing club on a short-term loan. Especially if he ends up claiming points from the sides around City.
It's too bad Arsenal are skint at the moment. Only way this deal happens is if City subsidise his wages.
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this "deal" gets better and better doesnt it
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So we are not paying for him in anyway and with an option to buy for half the price? Yeah do it! Whats the downside?
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It's John Stones
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by somethingelse (U3109)
posted 4 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Gillespie Road. (U18361)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by somethingelse (U3109)
posted 19 minutes ago
Doesn't make any sense for City ,does he want any other top players from his old club,maybe the whole squad would help arsenal
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Makes a lot of sense for a club who can easily afford to ship in a matching set of £70m CBs without batting an eyelid.
It makes sense to clear up some room by farming a recovering player out to a non-competing club on a short-term loan. Especially if he ends up claiming points from the sides around City.
It's too bad Arsenal are skint at the moment. Only way this deal happens is if City subsidise his wages.
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this "deal" gets better and better doesnt it
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So we are not paying for him in anyway and with an option to buy for half the price? Yeah do it! Whats the downside?
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It's John Stones
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A change of scenery may do him good. A second chance and really a last chance doesn't half concentrate minds. Look at Zaha after Man Utd flop.
Scenery isn’t the problem, it’s lack of ability.
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
Scenery isn’t the problem, it’s lack of ability.
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It’s not lack of ability,he really should’ve been one of the best centre backs England have produced
His problem is concentration,always has been
Could be potentially a very good signing and I’d much rather we kept him.
comment by Paulpowersleftfoot (U1037)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
Scenery isn’t the problem, it’s lack of ability.
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It’s not lack of ability,he really should’ve been one of the best centre backs England have produced
His problem is concentration,always has been
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Reading the game well, or concentration as you put it, is what separates good defenders from poor ones. Stones hasn’t got it, so it is lack of ability really.
Lack of anticipation, physicality and concentration. Other than that he’s great at defending.
There was a reason why City paid silly money for him. It happens to a lot players who think they have arrived and relax. Others try even harder and succeed. Stones has a chance to resurrect his career if he moves. If he doesn't do it no one loses. City keep him and and he continues to languish in the reserves till his contract runs out. Its up to him really if City let him go. Like I said no downside really.
There was a reason why City paid silly money for him.
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Yeah they've got previous for spending stupid money on poor to average defenders.
Like I said. Some carry the price tag others don't. Up to Stones if he has the balls to turn it around. He is only 25. Its not like he is 30+.
Silly money?
Try getting any established premier league English CB at 22 years of age for less than £50m. Especially one who's a full international.
His passport alone is worth £25-30m the way this market works.
He won't continue to languish in the reserves for us if he sorts his head out. The last two seasons, for the first few months before injury, he was superb. He makes a big difference to our attacking transition when he's in form too.
The issue is when he's not on it. He's either superb or awful, there's no middle ground at all, and recently there's been very little of the former.
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 29 minutes ago
He won't continue to languish in the reserves for us if he sorts his head out. The last two seasons, for the first few months before injury, he was superb. He makes a big difference to our attacking transition when he's in form too.
The issue is when he's not on it. He's either superb or awful, there's no middle ground at all, and recently there's been very little of the former.
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Pretty much. Last season was probs my the first he didn’t really build any form. But prior to that he’s always started strongly
Yep. It’s why he’s such a frustrating player.
I doubt City would give him to us but I actually would be pretty happy with this, especially as a loan signing.
He’s played in the PL, he’s worked with Arteta, he’s been part of the defence that won back to back PL titles. We could do a lot worse (and we have when you look at our current CBS).
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posted on 14/1/20
Typical Arsenal, need a defender that leads and defends first.
Go for John Stones, who can't lead or defend but can pass forward. A younger schitter version of David Luiz.
posted on 14/1/20
comment by somethingelse (U3109)
posted 4 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Gillespie Road. (U18361)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by somethingelse (U3109)
posted 19 minutes ago
Doesn't make any sense for City ,does he want any other top players from his old club,maybe the whole squad would help arsenal
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Makes a lot of sense for a club who can easily afford to ship in a matching set of £70m CBs without batting an eyelid.
It makes sense to clear up some room by farming a recovering player out to a non-competing club on a short-term loan. Especially if he ends up claiming points from the sides around City.
It's too bad Arsenal are skint at the moment. Only way this deal happens is if City subsidise his wages.
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this "deal" gets better and better doesnt it
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So we are not paying for him in anyway and with an option to buy for half the price? Yeah do it! Whats the downside?
posted on 14/1/20
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by somethingelse (U3109)
posted 4 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Gillespie Road. (U18361)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by somethingelse (U3109)
posted 19 minutes ago
Doesn't make any sense for City ,does he want any other top players from his old club,maybe the whole squad would help arsenal
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Makes a lot of sense for a club who can easily afford to ship in a matching set of £70m CBs without batting an eyelid.
It makes sense to clear up some room by farming a recovering player out to a non-competing club on a short-term loan. Especially if he ends up claiming points from the sides around City.
It's too bad Arsenal are skint at the moment. Only way this deal happens is if City subsidise his wages.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
this "deal" gets better and better doesnt it
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So we are not paying for him in anyway and with an option to buy for half the price? Yeah do it! Whats the downside?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's John Stones
posted on 14/1/20
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by somethingelse (U3109)
posted 4 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Gillespie Road. (U18361)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by somethingelse (U3109)
posted 19 minutes ago
Doesn't make any sense for City ,does he want any other top players from his old club,maybe the whole squad would help arsenal
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Makes a lot of sense for a club who can easily afford to ship in a matching set of £70m CBs without batting an eyelid.
It makes sense to clear up some room by farming a recovering player out to a non-competing club on a short-term loan. Especially if he ends up claiming points from the sides around City.
It's too bad Arsenal are skint at the moment. Only way this deal happens is if City subsidise his wages.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
this "deal" gets better and better doesnt it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So we are not paying for him in anyway and with an option to buy for half the price? Yeah do it! Whats the downside?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's John Stones
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A change of scenery may do him good. A second chance and really a last chance doesn't half concentrate minds. Look at Zaha after Man Utd flop.
posted on 14/1/20
Scenery isn’t the problem, it’s lack of ability.
posted on 14/1/20
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
Scenery isn’t the problem, it’s lack of ability.
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It’s not lack of ability,he really should’ve been one of the best centre backs England have produced
His problem is concentration,always has been
posted on 14/1/20
Could be potentially a very good signing and I’d much rather we kept him.
posted on 14/1/20
comment by Paulpowersleftfoot (U1037)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
Scenery isn’t the problem, it’s lack of ability.
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It’s not lack of ability,he really should’ve been one of the best centre backs England have produced
His problem is concentration,always has been
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Reading the game well, or concentration as you put it, is what separates good defenders from poor ones. Stones hasn’t got it, so it is lack of ability really.
posted on 14/1/20
Lack of anticipation, physicality and concentration. Other than that he’s great at defending.
posted on 14/1/20
There was a reason why City paid silly money for him. It happens to a lot players who think they have arrived and relax. Others try even harder and succeed. Stones has a chance to resurrect his career if he moves. If he doesn't do it no one loses. City keep him and and he continues to languish in the reserves till his contract runs out. Its up to him really if City let him go. Like I said no downside really.
posted on 14/1/20
There was a reason why City paid silly money for him.
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Yeah they've got previous for spending stupid money on poor to average defenders.
posted on 14/1/20
Mangala
posted on 14/1/20
Like I said. Some carry the price tag others don't. Up to Stones if he has the balls to turn it around. He is only 25. Its not like he is 30+.
posted on 14/1/20
Silly money?
Try getting any established premier league English CB at 22 years of age for less than £50m. Especially one who's a full international.
His passport alone is worth £25-30m the way this market works.
posted on 14/1/20
He won't continue to languish in the reserves for us if he sorts his head out. The last two seasons, for the first few months before injury, he was superb. He makes a big difference to our attacking transition when he's in form too.
The issue is when he's not on it. He's either superb or awful, there's no middle ground at all, and recently there's been very little of the former.
posted on 14/1/20
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 29 minutes ago
He won't continue to languish in the reserves for us if he sorts his head out. The last two seasons, for the first few months before injury, he was superb. He makes a big difference to our attacking transition when he's in form too.
The issue is when he's not on it. He's either superb or awful, there's no middle ground at all, and recently there's been very little of the former.
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Pretty much. Last season was probs my the first he didn’t really build any form. But prior to that he’s always started strongly
posted on 14/1/20
Yep. It’s why he’s such a frustrating player.
posted on 15/1/20
I doubt City would give him to us but I actually would be pretty happy with this, especially as a loan signing.
He’s played in the PL, he’s worked with Arteta, he’s been part of the defence that won back to back PL titles. We could do a lot worse (and we have when you look at our current CBS).
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