Totally agree Robb.
I did a couple of posts a long time ago saying I thought he was a future great.
Not that it matters but I like him too.
Rashford is a class act and very humble lad as well, as you say he plays best as a wide forward.
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comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 1 minute ago
The key is to keep him because as he gets better the more he will want to achieve
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Tbf it’s the same for most players - I don’t think he will leave and yesterday’s worry about the Raiola thing has been assuaged somewhat by the replies on that article. But he is a United supporter which hopefully gives us an extra reason to be optimistic
Fair play to him. He's reached a level of consistency I doubted he would.
Should be targeting 30 goals this season in all comps which would be a great achievement.
He has good stats, but can still at times frustrate. Until he starts putting away the easier chances, I wouldn't call him clinical.
He hits his freekicks well, but doesn't have the best accuracy. Good penalty taker though. By the looks of it, he's our only player that practices shooting a lot.
I think the final stage of his development would be too work with a technical coach, who could refine his game and make him more effective.
Not wishing to nitpick bloodred, but I'm not a fan of targets. If you miss a few matches with injury for example, you find yourself disappointed at the end of the year.
Much to take each game as it comes, do your best, and then see what you have achieved.
Wanting to be the main goal scorer can also make you a little selfish.
Shocked that the Gashford crew couldn’t see his quality.
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 40 seconds ago
Shocked that the Gashford crew couldn’t see his quality.
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'Gashford' every time he overran the ball wen trying something, or misplacing a shot, as a 19 year old
Obviously Rashford still has some aspects of his game to improve, but he has progressed very well under Ole's tenure.
Think if we can attain a proper RW it will open up more space for Rashford.
I'll fully admit I had my doubts that Rashford could put together this type of consistency. It's great to see and he's become our most important player. By all accounts he does a lot for the homeless around Manchester as well. Go a good lad all round
He entitles this 'Marcus Rashford appreciation thread' and doesn't get past the first sentence before writing 'Ole out'.
#Agenda
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 41 seconds ago
He entitles this 'Marcus Rashford appreciation thread' and doesn't get past the first sentence before writing 'Ole out'.
#Agenda
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You also typed it too in your sentence
Welcome to the dark side 😛😎
I've always had the feeling that Rashford's biggest asset is his mentality. That's why he scored on so many debuts. That's what has enabled him to make the transition to senior football so much better than peers who appeared more talented than him at youth levels. There have been two or three great extended interviews lately that reveal him to be not just humble and determined, but quite a deep thinker about his sport and life. He comes across as a really impressive human being, who knows he has a lot of scope to improve and knows that it will take work. I wouldn't bet against him rising another couple of levels.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
I've always had the feeling that Rashford's biggest asset is his mentality. That's why he scored on so many debuts. That's what has enabled him to make the transition to senior football so much better than peers who appeared more talented than him at youth levels. There have been two or three great extended interviews lately that reveal him to be not just humble and determined, but quite a deep thinker about his sport and life. He comes across as a really impressive human being, who knows he has a lot of scope to improve and knows that it will take work. I wouldn't bet against him rising another couple of levels.
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Agree with this.
Unfortunately, I don't think the same applies to Martial.
Rashford isn’t clinical. He is also very inconsistent, especially in away games he bottles it too many times.
Mike, I find it harder to draw conclusions about Martial. Haven't seen many interviews. He doesn't seem to give much of himself away. A lot of people draw conclusions based on his body language and lack of smiles, which in my view is BS. Obviously, you don't always see consistent levels of commitment on the pitch - a fair criticism, but maybe not enough to conclude that Martial doesn't have the drive to become the star player his talent suggests he could be.
Rashford is progressing really well, with extra confidence on how his season is going he may be more clinical in finishing chances & jump to the next level of player
Always backed him, his contract was a bit silly and led to people expecting too much imo.
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So Robb, have you revised your opinion on Rashford then? As I seem to recall you saying that he was nothing but a finisher when he came through and deriding his all round game (it was when you were in full Lukaku obsession mode).
And then at the start of the season, following Lukaku's exit, when I said that Rashford and Martial were capable of getting 35 league goals between them, you laughed at me. Pretty sure that you said Rashford wasn't clinical enough at the time.
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 2 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 40 seconds ago
Shocked that the Gashford crew couldn’t see his quality.
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'Gashford' every time he overran the ball wen trying something, or misplacing a shot, as a 19 year old
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There were plenty of people arguing we should have “cashed in” on him last season. The same kind of daft nobbers who didn’t want to give the likes of Ronaldo, Fletch, Wesley or most recently McT time.
People are stupidly impatient, and stupidly forgetful.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 25 seconds ago
So Robb, have you revised your opinion on Rashford then? As I seem to recall you saying that he was nothing but a finisher when he came through and deriding his all round game (it was when you were in full Lukaku obsession mode).
And then at the start of the season, following Lukaku's exit, when I said that Rashford and Martial were capable of getting 35 league goals between them, you laughed at me. Pretty sure that you said Rashford wasn't clinical enough at the time.
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Elvis my fine feathered friend
I did indeed say that poacher thing - back in 16/17 time and I was probably right as he’s come along a long way since then. And he has improved. I can’t see how that’s in question.
Regarding this season and the goal tally - it’s still unlikely to happen imo. But if it does fair play to him. I’m a gracious man who would love to be proven wrong about Rashford. But equally he has come along well. So props to him.
Even early on it was obvious that he was more than just a finisher. His dribbling and skills/ability to beat a man were there to see. But you'll say anything to defend one of your obsessions.
As for goals this season, they are on for 38 in the league at current rate. And that is without a creative midfielder/Pogba injured and Martial injured for 8 weeks or so. Why would you think it is unlikely? I'd say it looks more likely than not.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
Even early on it was obvious that he was more than just a finisher. His dribbling and skills/ability to beat a man were there to see. But you'll say anything to defend one of your obsessions.
As for goals this season, they are on for 38 in the league at current rate. And that is without a creative midfielder/Pogba injured and Martial injured for 8 weeks or so. Why would you think it is unlikely? I'd say it looks more likely than not.
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You seem so angry about this - save that for the people that called him Gashford. I was always behind the guy. Sure, I may have said we needed an experienced striker to help him develop and I was right - he isn’t really a striker per se. I was the one saying he could be up there with Mbappe a few years ago and I stand by that.
As for this seasons targets - we don’t play Norwich every week. We have a very tough run in and I doubt we’ll even finish above 60 points. If I’m wrong about that target i’ll own it. But it’s still a long way off.
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posted on 15/1/20
Totally agree Robb.
I did a couple of posts a long time ago saying I thought he was a future great.
Not that it matters but I like him too.
posted on 15/1/20
Rashford is a class act and very humble lad as well, as you say he plays best as a wide forward.
posted on 15/1/20
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posted on 15/1/20
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 1 minute ago
The key is to keep him because as he gets better the more he will want to achieve
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Tbf it’s the same for most players - I don’t think he will leave and yesterday’s worry about the Raiola thing has been assuaged somewhat by the replies on that article. But he is a United supporter which hopefully gives us an extra reason to be optimistic
posted on 15/1/20
Fair play to him. He's reached a level of consistency I doubted he would.
Should be targeting 30 goals this season in all comps which would be a great achievement.
posted on 15/1/20
He has good stats, but can still at times frustrate. Until he starts putting away the easier chances, I wouldn't call him clinical.
He hits his freekicks well, but doesn't have the best accuracy. Good penalty taker though. By the looks of it, he's our only player that practices shooting a lot.
I think the final stage of his development would be too work with a technical coach, who could refine his game and make him more effective.
posted on 15/1/20
Not wishing to nitpick bloodred, but I'm not a fan of targets. If you miss a few matches with injury for example, you find yourself disappointed at the end of the year.
Much to take each game as it comes, do your best, and then see what you have achieved.
Wanting to be the main goal scorer can also make you a little selfish.
posted on 15/1/20
Shocked that the Gashford crew couldn’t see his quality.
posted on 15/1/20
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 40 seconds ago
Shocked that the Gashford crew couldn’t see his quality.
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'Gashford' every time he overran the ball wen trying something, or misplacing a shot, as a 19 year old
posted on 15/1/20
Obviously Rashford still has some aspects of his game to improve, but he has progressed very well under Ole's tenure.
Think if we can attain a proper RW it will open up more space for Rashford.
posted on 15/1/20
I'll fully admit I had my doubts that Rashford could put together this type of consistency. It's great to see and he's become our most important player. By all accounts he does a lot for the homeless around Manchester as well. Go a good lad all round
posted on 15/1/20
He entitles this 'Marcus Rashford appreciation thread' and doesn't get past the first sentence before writing 'Ole out'.
#Agenda
posted on 15/1/20
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 41 seconds ago
He entitles this 'Marcus Rashford appreciation thread' and doesn't get past the first sentence before writing 'Ole out'.
#Agenda
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You also typed it too in your sentence
Welcome to the dark side 😛😎
posted on 15/1/20
I've always had the feeling that Rashford's biggest asset is his mentality. That's why he scored on so many debuts. That's what has enabled him to make the transition to senior football so much better than peers who appeared more talented than him at youth levels. There have been two or three great extended interviews lately that reveal him to be not just humble and determined, but quite a deep thinker about his sport and life. He comes across as a really impressive human being, who knows he has a lot of scope to improve and knows that it will take work. I wouldn't bet against him rising another couple of levels.
posted on 15/1/20
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
I've always had the feeling that Rashford's biggest asset is his mentality. That's why he scored on so many debuts. That's what has enabled him to make the transition to senior football so much better than peers who appeared more talented than him at youth levels. There have been two or three great extended interviews lately that reveal him to be not just humble and determined, but quite a deep thinker about his sport and life. He comes across as a really impressive human being, who knows he has a lot of scope to improve and knows that it will take work. I wouldn't bet against him rising another couple of levels.
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Agree with this.
Unfortunately, I don't think the same applies to Martial.
posted on 15/1/20
Rashford isn’t clinical. He is also very inconsistent, especially in away games he bottles it too many times.
posted on 15/1/20
Mike, I find it harder to draw conclusions about Martial. Haven't seen many interviews. He doesn't seem to give much of himself away. A lot of people draw conclusions based on his body language and lack of smiles, which in my view is BS. Obviously, you don't always see consistent levels of commitment on the pitch - a fair criticism, but maybe not enough to conclude that Martial doesn't have the drive to become the star player his talent suggests he could be.
posted on 15/1/20
Rashford is progressing really well, with extra confidence on how his season is going he may be more clinical in finishing chances & jump to the next level of player
posted on 15/1/20
Always backed him, his contract was a bit silly and led to people expecting too much imo.
posted on 15/1/20
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posted on 15/1/20
So Robb, have you revised your opinion on Rashford then? As I seem to recall you saying that he was nothing but a finisher when he came through and deriding his all round game (it was when you were in full Lukaku obsession mode).
And then at the start of the season, following Lukaku's exit, when I said that Rashford and Martial were capable of getting 35 league goals between them, you laughed at me. Pretty sure that you said Rashford wasn't clinical enough at the time.
posted on 15/1/20
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 2 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 40 seconds ago
Shocked that the Gashford crew couldn’t see his quality.
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'Gashford' every time he overran the ball wen trying something, or misplacing a shot, as a 19 year old
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There were plenty of people arguing we should have “cashed in” on him last season. The same kind of daft nobbers who didn’t want to give the likes of Ronaldo, Fletch, Wesley or most recently McT time.
People are stupidly impatient, and stupidly forgetful.
posted on 15/1/20
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 25 seconds ago
So Robb, have you revised your opinion on Rashford then? As I seem to recall you saying that he was nothing but a finisher when he came through and deriding his all round game (it was when you were in full Lukaku obsession mode).
And then at the start of the season, following Lukaku's exit, when I said that Rashford and Martial were capable of getting 35 league goals between them, you laughed at me. Pretty sure that you said Rashford wasn't clinical enough at the time.
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Elvis my fine feathered friend
I did indeed say that poacher thing - back in 16/17 time and I was probably right as he’s come along a long way since then. And he has improved. I can’t see how that’s in question.
Regarding this season and the goal tally - it’s still unlikely to happen imo. But if it does fair play to him. I’m a gracious man who would love to be proven wrong about Rashford. But equally he has come along well. So props to him.
posted on 15/1/20
Even early on it was obvious that he was more than just a finisher. His dribbling and skills/ability to beat a man were there to see. But you'll say anything to defend one of your obsessions.
As for goals this season, they are on for 38 in the league at current rate. And that is without a creative midfielder/Pogba injured and Martial injured for 8 weeks or so. Why would you think it is unlikely? I'd say it looks more likely than not.
posted on 15/1/20
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
Even early on it was obvious that he was more than just a finisher. His dribbling and skills/ability to beat a man were there to see. But you'll say anything to defend one of your obsessions.
As for goals this season, they are on for 38 in the league at current rate. And that is without a creative midfielder/Pogba injured and Martial injured for 8 weeks or so. Why would you think it is unlikely? I'd say it looks more likely than not.
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You seem so angry about this - save that for the people that called him Gashford. I was always behind the guy. Sure, I may have said we needed an experienced striker to help him develop and I was right - he isn’t really a striker per se. I was the one saying he could be up there with Mbappe a few years ago and I stand by that.
As for this seasons targets - we don’t play Norwich every week. We have a very tough run in and I doubt we’ll even finish above 60 points. If I’m wrong about that target i’ll own it. But it’s still a long way off.
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