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posted on 24/1/20

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/jurgen-klopp-rejected-man-utd-robbie-fowler-liverpool-news

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Well the above has quotes from Klopp in which e contradicts himself and then their were other reports as to why he turned us down.

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posted on 24/1/20

comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
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comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 3 seconds ago
Well the above has quotes from Klopp in which e contradicts himself and then their were other reports as to why he turned us down.
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Show me those other reports that give the reasons you have stated...
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Tell me why Klopp contradicts his reasoning first

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comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
I suspect City got Pep because they brought in Begiristain, Soriano, revamped the youth system, revamped the training centre and had a clear project before getting Pep himself.

Utd brought in Matt Judge, an economics graduate from Bristol University.
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Who identifies City's targets and negotiates the deal?
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Begiristain gives Pep a list and Pep chooses apparently. So they wanted VVD and then moved onto Laporte.

Whatever City and Liverpool do they seem to get it right. Listen to that podcast I mentioned earlier. As said if Liverpool overtake Utd financially then that's mental really.
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And who identifies these players on Bergisteins list?
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Guardiola
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No it's Begiristain and the scouts I think. Im sure Pep sees players and asks for them to be looked though.

Why do you KEEP asking questions RDD?

What's your angle?

posted on 24/1/20

comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
I suspect City got Pep because they brought in Begiristain, Soriano, revamped the youth system, revamped the training centre and had a clear project before getting Pep himself.

Utd brought in Matt Judge, an economics graduate from Bristol University.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Who identifies City's targets and negotiates the deal?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Begiristain gives Pep a list and Pep chooses apparently. So they wanted VVD and then moved onto Laporte.

Whatever City and Liverpool do they seem to get it right. Listen to that podcast I mentioned earlier. As said if Liverpool overtake Utd financially then that's mental really.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And who identifies these players on Bergisteins list?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Guardiola
----------------------------------------------------------------------

No it's Begiristain and the scouts I think. Im sure Pep sees players and asks for them to be looked though.

Why do you KEEP asking questions RDD?

What's your angle?
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It’s a bizarre way of debating. I can only assume he wants someone to answer a (loaded) question so he can use that answer to say it proves some other point of his correct. As that basically never happens, the questions go on until the original bone of contention is lost in the fog.

posted on 24/1/20

comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 3 seconds ago
Well the above has quotes from Klopp in which e contradicts himself and then their were other reports as to why he turned us down.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Show me those other reports that give the reasons you have stated...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tell me why Klopp contradicts his reasoning first
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Why? That was never part of the discussion. You clearly said that you understood it to be fact that Klopp turned down a job due to high pressures and big money. I want you to show me where he said that and what leads you to believe that is a fact.
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Well' I have shown he has given contradictory reasons for rejecting United and I recall reports that it was the pressures of managing such commercial clubs that he didnt fancy.

posted on 24/1/20

comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
I suspect City got Pep because they brought in Begiristain, Soriano, revamped the youth system, revamped the training centre and had a clear project before getting Pep himself.

Utd brought in Matt Judge, an economics graduate from Bristol University.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Who identifies City's targets and negotiates the deal?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Begiristain gives Pep a list and Pep chooses apparently. So they wanted VVD and then moved onto Laporte.

Whatever City and Liverpool do they seem to get it right. Listen to that podcast I mentioned earlier. As said if Liverpool overtake Utd financially then that's mental really.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And who identifies these players on Bergisteins list?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Guardiola
----------------------------------------------------------------------

No it's Begiristain and the scouts I think. Im sure Pep sees players and asks for them to be looked though.

Why do you KEEP asking questions RDD?

What's your angle?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
City are being used as a great example of how succesful a DOF can be however it appears that he simply gathers the scouts reports and asks Pep who he wants.

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posted on 24/1/20

comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
I suspect City got Pep because they brought in Begiristain, Soriano, revamped the youth system, revamped the training centre and had a clear project before getting Pep himself.

Utd brought in Matt Judge, an economics graduate from Bristol University.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Who identifies City's targets and negotiates the deal?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Begiristain gives Pep a list and Pep chooses apparently. So they wanted VVD and then moved onto Laporte.

Whatever City and Liverpool do they seem to get it right. Listen to that podcast I mentioned earlier. As said if Liverpool overtake Utd financially then that's mental really.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And who identifies these players on Bergisteins list?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Guardiola
----------------------------------------------------------------------

No it's Begiristain and the scouts I think. Im sure Pep sees players and asks for them to be looked though.

Why do you KEEP asking questions RDD?

What's your angle?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
City are being used as a great example of how succesful a DOF can be however it appears that he simply gathers the scouts reports and asks Pep who he wants.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Simple or not, that sounds pretty good to me

posted on 24/1/20

comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 3 seconds ago
Well the above has quotes from Klopp in which e contradicts himself and then their were other reports as to why he turned us down.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Show me those other reports that give the reasons you have stated...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tell me why Klopp contradicts his reasoning first
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Why? That was never part of the discussion. You clearly said that you understood it to be fact that Klopp turned down a job due to high pressures and big money. I want you to show me where he said that and what leads you to believe that is a fact.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well' I have shown he has given contradictory reasons for rejecting United and I recall reports that it was the pressures of managing such commercial clubs that he didnt fancy.
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You recall? Is that your providing evidence? Show me where he talks about pressures?
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Go find your own links. I'm not your Joey.

posted on 24/1/20

comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
I suspect City got Pep because they brought in Begiristain, Soriano, revamped the youth system, revamped the training centre and had a clear project before getting Pep himself.

Utd brought in Matt Judge, an economics graduate from Bristol University.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Who identifies City's targets and negotiates the deal?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Begiristain gives Pep a list and Pep chooses apparently. So they wanted VVD and then moved onto Laporte.

Whatever City and Liverpool do they seem to get it right. Listen to that podcast I mentioned earlier. As said if Liverpool overtake Utd financially then that's mental really.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And who identifies these players on Bergisteins list?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Guardiola
----------------------------------------------------------------------

No it's Begiristain and the scouts I think. Im sure Pep sees players and asks for them to be looked though.

Why do you KEEP asking questions RDD?

What's your angle?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
City are being used as a great example of how succesful a DOF can be however it appears that he simply gathers the scouts reports and asks Pep who he wants.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Simple or not, that sounds pretty good to me
----------------------------------------------------------------------

But our head scout can do that.

posted on 24/1/20

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posted on 24/1/20

comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
I suspect City got Pep because they brought in Begiristain, Soriano, revamped the youth system, revamped the training centre and had a clear project before getting Pep himself.

Utd brought in Matt Judge, an economics graduate from Bristol University.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Who identifies City's targets and negotiates the deal?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Begiristain gives Pep a list and Pep chooses apparently. So they wanted VVD and then moved onto Laporte.

Whatever City and Liverpool do they seem to get it right. Listen to that podcast I mentioned earlier. As said if Liverpool overtake Utd financially then that's mental really.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And who identifies these players on Bergisteins list?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Guardiola
----------------------------------------------------------------------

No it's Begiristain and the scouts I think. Im sure Pep sees players and asks for them to be looked though.

Why do you KEEP asking questions RDD?

What's your angle?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
City are being used as a great example of how succesful a DOF can be however it appears that he simply gathers the scouts reports and asks Pep who he wants.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Well no because he over sees the youth system and development. When Pep leaves he'll ensure the style, philosophy and culture continues because he directs the football. The players they scout will all fit that too. That's the point and it is indeed a great example.

posted on 24/1/20

Hardly. Klopp cant give a straight answer why he didn't take the United job. We all know it's because he wanted an easy ride at a smaller club with no expectations of him, and there are reports to support that.

Go find them if you wish. Iv no need to verify ny comments for some guy on the wrong page.

posted on 24/1/20

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posted on 24/1/20

comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
I suspect City got Pep because they brought in Begiristain, Soriano, revamped the youth system, revamped the training centre and had a clear project before getting Pep himself.

Utd brought in Matt Judge, an economics graduate from Bristol University.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Who identifies City's targets and negotiates the deal?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Begiristain gives Pep a list and Pep chooses apparently. So they wanted VVD and then moved onto Laporte.

Whatever City and Liverpool do they seem to get it right. Listen to that podcast I mentioned earlier. As said if Liverpool overtake Utd financially then that's mental really.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And who identifies these players on Bergisteins list?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Guardiola
----------------------------------------------------------------------

No it's Begiristain and the scouts I think. Im sure Pep sees players and asks for them to be looked though.

Why do you KEEP asking questions RDD?

What's your angle?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
City are being used as a great example of how succesful a DOF can be however it appears that he simply gathers the scouts reports and asks Pep who he wants.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Well no because he over sees the youth system and development. When Pep leaves he'll ensure the style, philosophy and culture continues because he directs the football. The players they scout will all fit that too. That's the point and it is indeed a great example.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We have people who oversee out youth sides

And how exactly will Bergistein replicate what Pep does once Peps gone andnifnits so.easy' why arent most.clubs doing it?

posted on 24/1/20

comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 1 minute ago
Hardly. Klopp cant give a straight answer why he didn't take the United job. We all know it's because he wanted an easy ride at a smaller club with no expectations of him, and there are reports to support that.

Go find them if you wish. Iv no need to verify ny comments for some guy on the wrong page.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

So now we have gone to "we all know he wanted an easy ride" so we're back full circle to it being your opinion and not fact. You say there are links, there aren't. You even found time to post one thinking it backed you up when it didn't.

Oh dear.
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We are back to Klopp cant give a straight answer why he didnt take a job at a hugely commercial club , and instead took an easier job with little expectation of him.

posted on 24/1/20

All theyve done is copy Barca and its working. Whatever Utd are doing isnt.

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posted on 24/1/20

We never started anything kid 🤣

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