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comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 2 minutes ago
im sure you could find several if not more for pele and eusebio, and that'll be just in english, i wonder what it would be like worldwide.
Even peles comments say a.)best in europe and b.) he was like a brazilian.
you just wasted a lot of time.
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you want to learn to read mate i think, at no point did i say he was the best in the world,
what i said was that he proved the myth wrong that you had to have played in the world cup to prove you were an elite player... unless of course youre suggesting best wasnt an elite player... in whichcase id say footy wasnt or you
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So only players playing in CL finals can be considered the best in their position?
Okay
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To be considered the best in the world you do need to play in the CL regularly. Trent is on his 3rd season performing in the CL while Periera plays for Leicester (no disrespect).
Also at 26 he has 7 caps for Portugal. Is he backup to Cedric at international level?
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they used to say the same thing about the world cup before the cl became the cash cow it is, and Georgie best put that myth to bed.
learn to read your own comments maybe.
not that it matters. But your george best comments don't really have any effect on today's football anyway.
Its scary how thin the talent on the ground is as premier league clubs spend more and more on ready made talent to maintain PL status.
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Strange comment considering the amount of kids being used. At Arsenal alone we have Saka, Martinelli, Guendouzi, Willock, Nketiah, Nelson and Smith-Rowe who have all started PL games this season (48 starts between them).
Chelsea have a lot of starts for youngsters too, while the rest have a few.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 7 seconds ago
Its scary how thin the talent on the ground is as premier league clubs spend more and more on ready made talent to maintain PL status.
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Strange comment considering the amount of kids being used. At Arsenal alone we have Saka, Martinelli, Guendouzi, Willock, Nketiah, Nelson and Smith-Rowe who have all started PL games this season (48 starts between them).
Chelsea have a lot of starts for youngsters too, while the rest have a few.
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yeah seems odd to be calling it out now, this is probably the most games young english players have got in atleast a decade
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I'd take Pereira at Liverpool if we didn't have Trent. He's a good player but Trent has already accomplished and proven more in his short career and playing in the CL is a part of that. Of course its not a requisite to be the best in your position but if you look atbyhe best players they're always in the Champions league. A player who is the best in his position almost always gets snapped up by a Champions League club. Because of this, playing in the CL can be seen as a barometer.
Overall, I wouldn't say Pereira has not been a much sought after player as a world class player would be tbh and there's reasons for that.
comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
Whilst I am not sure that I agree that Pereria is better than TAA, to say that you have to be playing in the CL to be considered the best in your position doesn't make sense to me.
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I'd say not just play but actually prove yourself with consistently good performances in the elite competition should be important.
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Well if you are in the PL but not the CL, then you are playing against 4 CL teams anyway. So that is possibly 8 games per season. Then possibly a cup game or two. Then there is the fact that a lot of other teams in the PL are better than a lot of the team that qualify for the CL. I really don't think you have to be playing/performing in the CL to be considered the best in your position. If you are performing at a really high level in the PL (including against the best) then that for me is a good enough barometer.
alan shearer arguably the best pl striker of all time and hardly, if ever? played european football.
Blackburn and Newcastle were both in CL a fair few times.
Well, once each with Shearer...
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 34 seconds ago
Blackburn and Newcastle were both in CL a fair few times.
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twice...so hardly as i said
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 22 seconds ago
But in Europe 9 times
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comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 4 minutes ago
alan shearer arguably the best pl striker of all time and hardly, if ever? played european football.
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Shearer had 9'seasons in European football.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 4 minutes ago
alan shearer arguably the best pl striker of all time and hardly, if ever? played european football.
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Shearer had 9'seasons in European football.
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like uefa cup? whats that gotta do with anything? the original conversation was about PL and CL?
It has everything to do with your statement. Different competition back then, when only the top team and then top two got into CL.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
It has everything to do with your statement. Different competition back then, when only the top team and then top two got into CL.
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No it doesn't. My statement was in response to someone saying you have to play in the CL to be considered a top level player.
Shearer hardly did and was considered a top level player.
Not sure why you are bringing in uefa cup and cup winners cup games. Uefa cup for example in 98/99 newcastle qualified but finished 13th in the league.
Shearer is proof of this. He is a unique situation and an exception to the rule.
Most players who get anywhere near Shearer levels always end up at CL clubs and Shearer himself was close to joining CL clubs a few times, no?
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
It has everything to do with your statement. Different competition back then, when only the top team and then top two got into CL.
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No it doesn't. My statement was in response to someone saying you have to play in the CL to be considered a top level player.
Shearer hardly did and was considered a top level player.
Not sure why you are bringing in uefa cup and cup winners cup games. Uefa cup for example in 98/99 newcastle qualified but finished 13th in the league.
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"alan shearer arguably the best pl striker of all time and hardly, if ever? played european football."
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
It has everything to do with your statement. Different competition back then, when only the top team and then top two got into CL.
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No it doesn't. My statement was in response to someone saying you have to play in the CL to be considered a top level player.
Shearer hardly did and was considered a top level player.
Not sure why you are bringing in uefa cup and cup winners cup games. Uefa cup for example in 98/99 newcastle qualified but finished 13th in the league.
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"alan shearer arguably the best pl striker of all time and hardly, if ever? played european football."
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Okay change european football to CL then...thought that was pretty clear. my bad.
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Ramsdale
TAA, Tanganga, Guendouzi, Sessegnon
Foden, Mount, Jones
Greenwood, Martinelli, Pulisic
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 9 seconds ago
First XI
Ramsdale
TAA, Tanganga, Guendouzi, Sessegnon
Foden, Mount, Jones
Greenwood, Martinelli, Pulisic
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Has Sessegnon shown more in the PL than Williams?
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 9 seconds ago
First XI
Ramsdale
TAA, Tanganga, Guendouzi, Sessegnon
Foden, Mount, Jones
Greenwood, Martinelli, Pulisic
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Has Sessegnon shown more in the PL than Williams?
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Yes but I'm not discounting what he showed in the Championship to create my first XI.
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comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 2 minutes ago
im sure you could find several if not more for pele and eusebio, and that'll be just in english, i wonder what it would be like worldwide.
Even peles comments say a.)best in europe and b.) he was like a brazilian.
you just wasted a lot of time.
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you want to learn to read mate i think, at no point did i say he was the best in the world,
what i said was that he proved the myth wrong that you had to have played in the world cup to prove you were an elite player... unless of course youre suggesting best wasnt an elite player... in whichcase id say footy wasnt or you
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So only players playing in CL finals can be considered the best in their position?
Okay
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To be considered the best in the world you do need to play in the CL regularly. Trent is on his 3rd season performing in the CL while Periera plays for Leicester (no disrespect).
Also at 26 he has 7 caps for Portugal. Is he backup to Cedric at international level?
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they used to say the same thing about the world cup before the cl became the cash cow it is, and Georgie best put that myth to bed.
learn to read your own comments maybe.
not that it matters. But your george best comments don't really have any effect on today's football anyway.
posted on 17/2/20
Its scary how thin the talent on the ground is as premier league clubs spend more and more on ready made talent to maintain PL status.
-–------
Strange comment considering the amount of kids being used. At Arsenal alone we have Saka, Martinelli, Guendouzi, Willock, Nketiah, Nelson and Smith-Rowe who have all started PL games this season (48 starts between them).
Chelsea have a lot of starts for youngsters too, while the rest have a few.
posted on 17/2/20
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 7 seconds ago
Its scary how thin the talent on the ground is as premier league clubs spend more and more on ready made talent to maintain PL status.
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Strange comment considering the amount of kids being used. At Arsenal alone we have Saka, Martinelli, Guendouzi, Willock, Nketiah, Nelson and Smith-Rowe who have all started PL games this season (48 starts between them).
Chelsea have a lot of starts for youngsters too, while the rest have a few.
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yeah seems odd to be calling it out now, this is probably the most games young english players have got in atleast a decade
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posted on 17/2/20
I'd take Pereira at Liverpool if we didn't have Trent. He's a good player but Trent has already accomplished and proven more in his short career and playing in the CL is a part of that. Of course its not a requisite to be the best in your position but if you look atbyhe best players they're always in the Champions league. A player who is the best in his position almost always gets snapped up by a Champions League club. Because of this, playing in the CL can be seen as a barometer.
Overall, I wouldn't say Pereira has not been a much sought after player as a world class player would be tbh and there's reasons for that.
posted on 17/2/20
comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
Whilst I am not sure that I agree that Pereria is better than TAA, to say that you have to be playing in the CL to be considered the best in your position doesn't make sense to me.
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I'd say not just play but actually prove yourself with consistently good performances in the elite competition should be important.
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Well if you are in the PL but not the CL, then you are playing against 4 CL teams anyway. So that is possibly 8 games per season. Then possibly a cup game or two. Then there is the fact that a lot of other teams in the PL are better than a lot of the team that qualify for the CL. I really don't think you have to be playing/performing in the CL to be considered the best in your position. If you are performing at a really high level in the PL (including against the best) then that for me is a good enough barometer.
posted on 17/2/20
alan shearer arguably the best pl striker of all time and hardly, if ever? played european football.
posted on 17/2/20
Blackburn and Newcastle were both in CL a fair few times.
posted on 17/2/20
Well, once each with Shearer...
posted on 17/2/20
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 34 seconds ago
Blackburn and Newcastle were both in CL a fair few times.
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twice...so hardly as i said
posted on 17/2/20
But in Europe 9 times
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comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 22 seconds ago
But in Europe 9 times
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posted on 17/2/20
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 4 minutes ago
alan shearer arguably the best pl striker of all time and hardly, if ever? played european football.
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Shearer had 9'seasons in European football.
posted on 17/2/20
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 4 minutes ago
alan shearer arguably the best pl striker of all time and hardly, if ever? played european football.
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Shearer had 9'seasons in European football.
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like uefa cup? whats that gotta do with anything? the original conversation was about PL and CL?
posted on 17/2/20
Cantwell?
Maddison?
posted on 17/2/20
It has everything to do with your statement. Different competition back then, when only the top team and then top two got into CL.
posted on 17/2/20
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
It has everything to do with your statement. Different competition back then, when only the top team and then top two got into CL.
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No it doesn't. My statement was in response to someone saying you have to play in the CL to be considered a top level player.
Shearer hardly did and was considered a top level player.
Not sure why you are bringing in uefa cup and cup winners cup games. Uefa cup for example in 98/99 newcastle qualified but finished 13th in the league.
posted on 17/2/20
Shearer is proof of this. He is a unique situation and an exception to the rule.
Most players who get anywhere near Shearer levels always end up at CL clubs and Shearer himself was close to joining CL clubs a few times, no?
posted on 17/2/20
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
It has everything to do with your statement. Different competition back then, when only the top team and then top two got into CL.
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No it doesn't. My statement was in response to someone saying you have to play in the CL to be considered a top level player.
Shearer hardly did and was considered a top level player.
Not sure why you are bringing in uefa cup and cup winners cup games. Uefa cup for example in 98/99 newcastle qualified but finished 13th in the league.
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"alan shearer arguably the best pl striker of all time and hardly, if ever? played european football."
posted on 17/2/20
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
It has everything to do with your statement. Different competition back then, when only the top team and then top two got into CL.
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No it doesn't. My statement was in response to someone saying you have to play in the CL to be considered a top level player.
Shearer hardly did and was considered a top level player.
Not sure why you are bringing in uefa cup and cup winners cup games. Uefa cup for example in 98/99 newcastle qualified but finished 13th in the league.
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"alan shearer arguably the best pl striker of all time and hardly, if ever? played european football."
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Okay change european football to CL then...thought that was pretty clear. my bad.
posted on 17/2/20
First XI
Ramsdale
TAA, Tanganga, Guendouzi, Sessegnon
Foden, Mount, Jones
Greenwood, Martinelli, Pulisic
posted on 17/2/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 9 seconds ago
First XI
Ramsdale
TAA, Tanganga, Guendouzi, Sessegnon
Foden, Mount, Jones
Greenwood, Martinelli, Pulisic
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Has Sessegnon shown more in the PL than Williams?
posted on 17/2/20
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 9 seconds ago
First XI
Ramsdale
TAA, Tanganga, Guendouzi, Sessegnon
Foden, Mount, Jones
Greenwood, Martinelli, Pulisic
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Has Sessegnon shown more in the PL than Williams?
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Yes but I'm not discounting what he showed in the Championship to create my first XI.
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