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posted on 19/2/20

Our 08 side vs this Liverpool team would be a great game.

posted on 19/2/20

comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
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comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
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comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 16 minutes ago
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comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 38 seconds ago
The club world cup.


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A major international trophy. What's to laugh about?
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Listen, this Liverpool team is doing brilliantly and will achieve great things I am sure.

But we're looking at a United side that won the PL, CL and FA Cup in the same season.

Throwing in the Club World Cup and a Super Cup just makes you look desperate. They're nothing trophies that don't have any place in this debate.
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But we could quite easily win the CL and FA Cup this season, so that would therefore surpass what the United team did in 98/99. As we could do the treble and more, surpassing your PL performance that year.

Especially since we only need one more win to equal your points total from that season.

Might not happen, but quite easily could.
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probably wont happen mate lets be honest.

so come the end of the season you have to ask yourself whats better

a league win, and fa cup with the higest points total in the league ever
or
the treble
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Why won't it happen? What makes you think we won't go to a third CL final?
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what makes you think it will be easy?
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Who said it would be easy?

Plenty of evidence to suggest we will make it to the final again. Exhibit A being that we've never lost a two legged tie under Jurgen Klopp.
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you did.. your words were we could quite easily do the treble.

what liverpool have done this season has been superb, cant take anything away from them.

BUT over the last few games you have looked a bit leggy.
you werent great against norwich, and the 4-0 win against southampton hugely flattered you.

youre 1-0 down against a team who do not concede many goals but also have the ability to hit you on the break.... it wouldnt shock me to see you go out.

posted on 19/2/20

comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 2 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 3 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
He had 8 assists and 2 goals in our CL run, amazing stats for the 90s.
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I feel like 8 assists in the CL in any era is pretty incredible.

Beckham gets overlooked a lot but he was absolute class
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And we didn't lose 1 game against barca, bayern, inter or juve. You have already lost 2
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bodied

posted on 19/2/20

Schmeichel

G Nev-----Stam----VVD------Irwin


Becks----Keane----Scholes----Giggs


Yorke----Cole

posted on 19/2/20

Liverpool 19/20 and united 07/08 (98/99 was too long ago for me)

VDS
Trent Ferdinand Vidic Evra
Fabinho Scholes
Salah Rooney Ronaldo Mane

Subs
Alisson Robertson Van Dijk Carrick Giggs Tevez Firmino

posted on 19/2/20

comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
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comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
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comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
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comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 38 seconds ago
The club world cup.


----------------------------------------------------------------------
A major international trophy. What's to laugh about?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Listen, this Liverpool team is doing brilliantly and will achieve great things I am sure.

But we're looking at a United side that won the PL, CL and FA Cup in the same season.

Throwing in the Club World Cup and a Super Cup just makes you look desperate. They're nothing trophies that don't have any place in this debate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But we could quite easily win the CL and FA Cup this season, so that would therefore surpass what the United team did in 98/99. As we could do the treble and more, surpassing your PL performance that year.

Especially since we only need one more win to equal your points total from that season.

Might not happen, but quite easily could.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
probably wont happen mate lets be honest.

so come the end of the season you have to ask yourself whats better

a league win, and fa cup with the higest points total in the league ever
or
the treble
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why won't it happen? What makes you think we won't go to a third CL final?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
what makes you think it will be easy?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who said it would be easy?

Plenty of evidence to suggest we will make it to the final again. Exhibit A being that we've never lost a two legged tie under Jurgen Klopp.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
you did.. your words were we could quite easily do the treble.

what liverpool have done this season has been superb, cant take anything away from them.

BUT over the last few games you have looked a bit leggy.
you werent great against norwich, and the 4-0 win against southampton hugely flattered you.

youre 1-0 down against a team who do not concede many goals but also have the ability to hit you on the break.... it wouldnt shock me to see you go out.
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I mean considering we've already won the league and can focus on the cup games, it's easier for us to do it than every other team which has the league to focus on.

Also, we're 1-0 down against a team which have no interest in attacking us, in a stadium where we beat last season's CL favourites 4-0 to make the final.

"BUT over the last few games you have looked a bit leggy.
you werent great against norwich, and the 4-0 win against southampton hugely flattered you."

People have been saying this all season, yet we've won almost every game. Desperate to see us run out of steam but it's not happening. We'll turn Madrid over at Anfield.

posted on 19/2/20

We'll turn Madrid over at Anfield.
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I highly doubt that. More likely they’ll frustrate you and then do you on the counter

posted on 19/2/20

comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
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comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 38 seconds ago
The club world cup.


----------------------------------------------------------------------
A major international trophy. What's to laugh about?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Listen, this Liverpool team is doing brilliantly and will achieve great things I am sure.

But we're looking at a United side that won the PL, CL and FA Cup in the same season.

Throwing in the Club World Cup and a Super Cup just makes you look desperate. They're nothing trophies that don't have any place in this debate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But we could quite easily win the CL and FA Cup this season, so that would therefore surpass what the United team did in 98/99. As we could do the treble and more, surpassing your PL performance that year.

Especially since we only need one more win to equal your points total from that season.

Might not happen, but quite easily could.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
probably wont happen mate lets be honest.

so come the end of the season you have to ask yourself whats better

a league win, and fa cup with the higest points total in the league ever
or
the treble
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why won't it happen? What makes you think we won't go to a third CL final?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
what makes you think it will be easy?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who said it would be easy?

Plenty of evidence to suggest we will make it to the final again. Exhibit A being that we've never lost a two legged tie under Jurgen Klopp.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
you did.. your words were we could quite easily do the treble.

what liverpool have done this season has been superb, cant take anything away from them.

BUT over the last few games you have looked a bit leggy.
you werent great against norwich, and the 4-0 win against southampton hugely flattered you.

youre 1-0 down against a team who do not concede many goals but also have the ability to hit you on the break.... it wouldnt shock me to see you go out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I mean considering we've already won the league and can focus on the cup games, it's easier for us to do it than every other team which has the league to focus on.

Also, we're 1-0 down against a team which have no interest in attacking us, in a stadium where we beat last season's CL favourites 4-0 to make the final.

"BUT over the last few games you have looked a bit leggy.
you werent great against norwich, and the 4-0 win against southampton hugely flattered you."

People have been saying this all season, yet we've won almost every game. Desperate to see us run out of steam but it's not happening. We'll turn Madrid over at Anfield.
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admire your optimism.

as for desperate to see you run out of steam... the day i get that desperate in life is the day i take a long hard look in the mirror and think "my good god.. what a sad fecker you are"

posted on 19/2/20

comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 21 seconds ago
We'll turn Madrid over at Anfield.
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I highly doubt that. More likely they’ll frustrate you and then do you on the counter
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They relied on us having a poor night.

Won't happen again, we don't lose two legged ties in Europe as we always get the job done.

We've played far tougher sides this season than Madrid and won.

posted on 19/2/20

As much as I respect and applaud Liverpool this season, I can't get away from the fact the competition they are facing are absolutely dire from the years gone by.

Look how poor the quality in the PL is compared to the teams 10-20 years ago. I know you can only beat what's in front of you, but I can't away from this fact.

posted on 19/2/20

A poor night? Their plan worked perfectly, that’s why it looks like you had a poor night.

posted on 19/2/20

comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 21 seconds ago
We'll turn Madrid over at Anfield.
————————
I highly doubt that. More likely they’ll frustrate you and then do you on the counter
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They relied on us having a poor night.

Won't happen again, we don't lose two legged ties in Europe as we always get the job done.

We've played far tougher sides this season than Madrid and won.
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so youre telling us that you are going to win the CL for the next 4 seasons?

posted on 19/2/20

comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 31 minutes ago
Metro.⚽️ (U6770)

Of course we consider it - but to compare it against United's league record in 99, I think you're in danger of narrowing the debate into stats that don't fit.

Incredibly fortunate? I think you'll find any team winning trophies requires fortune.

If you want to go down that road then this will be a very short debate.
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narrowing the debate would be ignoring the fact that we've had the best start to a league campaign on the entire continent.

And of course all teams require luck but that's the point I'm making.

If Bergkamp scores that penalty, does that make United a worse side ?

I'm widening the debate and you're shutting down the parameters.
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And if Barca score a 4th, would you be out?

Fack off.

posted on 19/2/20

comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 21 seconds ago
We'll turn Madrid over at Anfield.
————————
I highly doubt that. More likely they’ll frustrate you and then do you on the counter
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They relied on us having a poor night.

Won't happen again, we don't lose two legged ties in Europe as we always get the job done.

We've played far tougher sides this season than Madrid and won.
----------------------------------------------------------------------


so youre telling us that you are going to win the CL for the next 4 seasons?
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No, I'm telling you that we will get past Atletico Madrid and could quite conceivably win the CL this season, considering we are the best side in Europe.

posted on 19/2/20

comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 38 seconds ago
The club world cup.


----------------------------------------------------------------------
A major international trophy. What's to laugh about?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Listen, this Liverpool team is doing brilliantly and will achieve great things I am sure.

But we're looking at a United side that won the PL, CL and FA Cup in the same season.

Throwing in the Club World Cup and a Super Cup just makes you look desperate. They're nothing trophies that don't have any place in this debate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But we could quite easily win the CL and FA Cup this season, so that would therefore surpass what the United team did in 98/99. As we could do the treble and more, surpassing your PL performance that year.

Especially since we only need one more win to equal your points total from that season.

Might not happen, but quite easily could.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

And if you do then the discussion changes.

But you haven't.

posted on 19/2/20

comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 21 seconds ago
We'll turn Madrid over at Anfield.
————————
I highly doubt that. More likely they’ll frustrate you and then do you on the counter
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They relied on us having a poor night.

Won't happen again, we don't lose two legged ties in Europe as we always get the job done.

We've played far tougher sides this season than Madrid and won.
----------------------------------------------------------------------


so youre telling us that you are going to win the CL for the next 4 seasons?
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No, I'm telling you that we will get past Atletico Madrid and could quite conceivably win the CL this season, considering we are the best side in Europe.
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no.. youre saying you will win the cl for the next 4 years

posted on 19/2/20

comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 3 minutes ago
A poor night? Their plan worked perfectly, that’s why it looks like you had a poor night.
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Wahl, I've watched almost every Liverpool game this season, so am better placed to judge how well or badly Liverpool have played.

We had a poor night.

posted on 19/2/20

comment by #TopLad || Sir Alex Ferguson ||✓ (U10161)
posted 4 minutes ago
As much as I respect and applaud Liverpool this season, I can't get away from the fact the competition they are facing are absolutely dire from the years gone by.

Look how poor the quality in the PL is compared to the teams 10-20 years ago. I know you can only beat what's in front of you, but I can't away from this fact.
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How convenient, we win the league but it's because every other team is crap, despite the PL supplying all 4 European finalists last season...

United won the league with 79 points in 1999. Now THAT'S a weak league.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 19/2/20

comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 31 minutes ago
Metro.⚽️ (U6770)

Of course we consider it - but to compare it against United's league record in 99, I think you're in danger of narrowing the debate into stats that don't fit.

Incredibly fortunate? I think you'll find any team winning trophies requires fortune.

If you want to go down that road then this will be a very short debate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

narrowing the debate would be ignoring the fact that we've had the best start to a league campaign on the entire continent.

And of course all teams require luck but that's the point I'm making.

If Bergkamp scores that penalty, does that make United a worse side ?

I'm widening the debate and you're shutting down the parameters.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
that bergkamp penalty miss probably won us the league too
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Was it a Bergkamp miss or a Schmeichel save?

posted on 19/2/20

comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 31 minutes ago
Metro.⚽️ (U6770)

Of course we consider it - but to compare it against United's league record in 99, I think you're in danger of narrowing the debate into stats that don't fit.

Incredibly fortunate? I think you'll find any team winning trophies requires fortune.

If you want to go down that road then this will be a very short debate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

narrowing the debate would be ignoring the fact that we've had the best start to a league campaign on the entire continent.

And of course all teams require luck but that's the point I'm making.

If Bergkamp scores that penalty, does that make United a worse side ?

I'm widening the debate and you're shutting down the parameters.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
that bergkamp penalty miss probably won us the league too
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Was it a Bergkamp miss or a Schmeichel save?
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oooh... now there is a question busby

posted on 19/2/20

Allison made a pretty important save v Napoli in the group stages of the CL last season. That's what the top players are there to do - produce big moments.

posted on 19/2/20

I’d go with:

————— Pete
TAA—Stam——VVD—Irwin
—————Keane
——Beckham—Scholes
Salah——-Yorke——-Mane

posted on 19/2/20

We also had a perfectly good goal ruled out in that first semi final v Arsenal if I recall.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 19/2/20

comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 44 seconds ago
I’d go with:

————— Pete
TAA—Stam——VVD—Irwin
—————Keane
——Beckham—Scholes
Salah——-Yorke——-Mane
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Teddy or Firminho should be up front if you're playing that system

posted on 19/2/20

---------------Pete---------------

TAA-------Stam----VVD----Irwin

Becks-----Keane----Scholes---Giggs

---------------Yorke----Cole---------------

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