No offence - but this was abundantly long before today’s debacle
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
No offence - but this was abundantly long before today’s debacle
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People only care when to happens to their team, naturally.
Another shocker by VAR, surely the idea that refs look at the pitch side monitor is coming soon.
Other than that I thought Michael Oliver had an excellent day. Let play flow where he could.
comment by jesus6662 (U8600)
posted 2 minutes ago
Another shocker by VAR, surely the idea that refs look at the pitch side monitor is coming soon.
Other than that I thought Michael Oliver had an excellent day. Let play flow where he could.
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Always said i think if it's not "clear and obvious" but dubious enough to consider then the ref should take a look.
VAR lost its integrity today after apologising for a mistake. Its supposed to be flawless and its imploded.
VAR has been an absolute joke this season, especially for us. Second game running where we've been done over by VAR. Fortunately today we still won the game but it doesn't change how bad it is at present.
The technology itself has never been the problem, it doesn't lie, it's the subjective interpretation different officials have of the rules. VAR's only a tool.
The technicalities of certain challenges need to be defined clearer, e.g. studs into opponent = red card or not! Push into opponent = foul or not. Interpretation still dictates these moments in games, that's not VAR's problem, it's merely giving several angles of each incident.
Can you really seperate the two so easily? VAR can’t be independent of humans so human error will always be part of VAR. There are so many subjective decisions in football so if you put referees under time pressure to make a subjective decision there will be errors. So it can never be perfect.
Add to that that it’s killing the spontaneous celebration of a goal, the in-stadium experience and the fact that IFAB have completely messed up the handball rule just to make an interpretation that is more Black and White for VAR and you have a system that is taking away far more than it is giving currently.
All because we couldn’t handle a few decisions going against us over the course of a season.
The rule not allowing to give yellow cards when reviewing for a red card is absurd.
comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Can you really seperate the two so easily? VAR can’t be independent of humans so human error will always be part of VAR. There are so many subjective decisions in football so if you put referees under time pressure to make a subjective decision there will be errors. So it can never be perfect.
Add to that that it’s killing the spontaneous celebration of a goal, the in-stadium experience and the fact that IFAB have completely messed up the handball rule just to make an interpretation that is more Black and White for VAR and you have a system that is taking away far more than it is giving currently.
All because we couldn’t handle a few decisions going against us over the course of a season.
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Decisions are stil going what us with VAR
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Can you really seperate the two so easily? VAR can’t be independent of humans so human error will always be part of VAR. There are so many subjective decisions in football so if you put referees under time pressure to make a subjective decision there will be errors. So it can never be perfect.
Add to that that it’s killing the spontaneous celebration of a goal, the in-stadium experience and the fact that IFAB have completely messed up the handball rule just to make an interpretation that is more Black and White for VAR and you have a system that is taking away far more than it is giving currently.
All because we couldn’t handle a few decisions going against us over the course of a season.
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Decisions are stil going what us with VAR
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True!
comment by Shaun M - I can't see me loving nobody bu... (U9955)
posted 2 hours, 43 minutes ago
VAR lost its integrity today after apologising for a mistake. Its supposed to be flawless and its imploded.
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I would argue that admitting a mistake does show integrity
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 14 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - I can't see me loving nobody bu... (U9955)
posted 2 hours, 43 minutes ago
VAR lost its integrity today after apologising for a mistake. Its supposed to be flawless and its imploded.
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I would argue that admitting a mistake does show integrity
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I was kind of thinking he was being ironic here.....I might be wrong
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posted on 22/2/20
No offence - but this was abundantly long before today’s debacle
posted on 22/2/20
Clear*
posted on 22/2/20
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
No offence - but this was abundantly long before today’s debacle
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People only care when to happens to their team, naturally.
posted on 22/2/20
Another shocker by VAR, surely the idea that refs look at the pitch side monitor is coming soon.
Other than that I thought Michael Oliver had an excellent day. Let play flow where he could.
posted on 22/2/20
comment by jesus6662 (U8600)
posted 2 minutes ago
Another shocker by VAR, surely the idea that refs look at the pitch side monitor is coming soon.
Other than that I thought Michael Oliver had an excellent day. Let play flow where he could.
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Always said i think if it's not "clear and obvious" but dubious enough to consider then the ref should take a look.
posted on 22/2/20
VAR lost its integrity today after apologising for a mistake. Its supposed to be flawless and its imploded.
posted on 22/2/20
VAR has been an absolute joke this season, especially for us. Second game running where we've been done over by VAR. Fortunately today we still won the game but it doesn't change how bad it is at present.
posted on 22/2/20
The technology itself has never been the problem, it doesn't lie, it's the subjective interpretation different officials have of the rules. VAR's only a tool.
The technicalities of certain challenges need to be defined clearer, e.g. studs into opponent = red card or not! Push into opponent = foul or not. Interpretation still dictates these moments in games, that's not VAR's problem, it's merely giving several angles of each incident.
posted on 22/2/20
Can you really seperate the two so easily? VAR can’t be independent of humans so human error will always be part of VAR. There are so many subjective decisions in football so if you put referees under time pressure to make a subjective decision there will be errors. So it can never be perfect.
Add to that that it’s killing the spontaneous celebration of a goal, the in-stadium experience and the fact that IFAB have completely messed up the handball rule just to make an interpretation that is more Black and White for VAR and you have a system that is taking away far more than it is giving currently.
All because we couldn’t handle a few decisions going against us over the course of a season.
posted on 22/2/20
The rule not allowing to give yellow cards when reviewing for a red card is absurd.
posted on 22/2/20
comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Can you really seperate the two so easily? VAR can’t be independent of humans so human error will always be part of VAR. There are so many subjective decisions in football so if you put referees under time pressure to make a subjective decision there will be errors. So it can never be perfect.
Add to that that it’s killing the spontaneous celebration of a goal, the in-stadium experience and the fact that IFAB have completely messed up the handball rule just to make an interpretation that is more Black and White for VAR and you have a system that is taking away far more than it is giving currently.
All because we couldn’t handle a few decisions going against us over the course of a season.
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Decisions are stil going what us with VAR
posted on 22/2/20
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Can you really seperate the two so easily? VAR can’t be independent of humans so human error will always be part of VAR. There are so many subjective decisions in football so if you put referees under time pressure to make a subjective decision there will be errors. So it can never be perfect.
Add to that that it’s killing the spontaneous celebration of a goal, the in-stadium experience and the fact that IFAB have completely messed up the handball rule just to make an interpretation that is more Black and White for VAR and you have a system that is taking away far more than it is giving currently.
All because we couldn’t handle a few decisions going against us over the course of a season.
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Decisions are stil going what us with VAR
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True!
posted on 22/2/20
comment by Shaun M - I can't see me loving nobody bu... (U9955)
posted 2 hours, 43 minutes ago
VAR lost its integrity today after apologising for a mistake. Its supposed to be flawless and its imploded.
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I would argue that admitting a mistake does show integrity
posted on 23/2/20
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 14 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - I can't see me loving nobody bu... (U9955)
posted 2 hours, 43 minutes ago
VAR lost its integrity today after apologising for a mistake. Its supposed to be flawless and its imploded.
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I would argue that admitting a mistake does show integrity
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I was kind of thinking he was being ironic here.....I might be wrong
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