He wasn't three years top scorer with Newcastle. Two were with Blackburn.
Amazing striker sure others were more skillful but what a finisher. Some penalty take as well.
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Scholes' team had three times as many.
Scholes wasn't rated by many as highly as he is now after his post retirement elevation, especially by his peers, evidenced by Gerrard's many individual awards and Scholes' few.
Gerrard
Ballon d'Or third place: 2005
UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 2005
PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2005–06
PFA Young Player of the Year: 2000–01
PFA Premier League Team of the Year: 2000–01,[247] 2003–04,[248] 2004–05,[249] 2005–06,[250] 2006–07,[251] 2007–08,[252] 2008–09,[253] 2013–14[254]
PFA Fans' Player of the Year: 2000–01, 2008–09
PFA Merit Award: 2015
FWA Tribute Award: 2013
FWA Footballer of the Year: 2008–09
IFFHS World's Most Popular Footballer: 2006
Onze d'Argent: 2005[255]
FA England Player of the Year Award: 2007, 2012
Liverpool Player of the Season: 2004, 2006, 2007, 2009
Liverpool Fans Online Player of the Season: 2005,[256] 2007[257]
BBC Sports Personality of the Year Award – 3rd Place: 2005
FIFA FIFPro World XI: 2007, 2008, 2009
FIFA FIFPro World XI 5th team: 2013[258]
UEFA Team of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007
UEFA Ultimate Team of the Year[259]
UEFA Team of the Century[260]
UEFA European Championship Team of the Tournament: 2012
UEFA Champions League Final Man of The Match: 2005[261]
ESM Team of the Year: 2008–09
Premier League Player of the Month: March 2001, March 2003, December 2004, April 2006, March 2009, March 2014[262]
Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12)
Fantasy Teams of the 20 Seasons (Public choice)
MLS All-Star: 2015[263]
English Football Hall of Fame: 2017[264]
Match of the Day Premier League all-time XI: (published 2017)[265]
BBC Goal of the Season: 2006[266]
FIFA Club World Cup Silver Ball: 2005[267]
Premier League top assist provider: 2013–14[
Scholes
Jimmy Murphy Young Player of the Year: 1992–93[147]
Premier League Player of the Month: January 2003, December 2003, October 2006, August 2010[144]
Premier League PFA Team of the Year: 2002–03,[148] 2006–07[149]
Premier League 10 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2001–02)
Domestic & Overall Team of the Decade
English Football Hall of Fame Inductee: 2008[13]
Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12)
Fantasy Teams of the 20 Seasons (Panel & Public choice)
FWA Tribute Award: 2012[150]
FIFPro World XI Nominee: 2005, 2007[151]
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Supports my point. A brilliant team player against an attention seeking weirdo.
Top players make others better too and help their teams win things.
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No, it directly contradicts your point.
Gerrard was rated much higher when they played and as such got voted for many awards and was at one time third in votes for the worlds best player. Scholes never got near it.
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Tbh I'm not that interested in this debate. Im just bored.
Scholes marginally better for me.
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Of course you are as you're spouting nonsense. Gerrard was rated higher by their peers at the time of playing. Scholes received a post retirement elevation. You jumped on the bandwagon.
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I’ll give Gerrard two footed tackles and penalties
I’ll give Scholes passing ability, dribbling, ball control, shooting, awareness of people around him, dictating the tempo of a game etc etc
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Gerrard better passing, shooting heading, tackling dribbling, leadership. Scholes better at getting better each year after retiring.
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Gritting your teeth and flying into tackles isn’t a skill
Scholes was a cultured artist with a football brain, not a long legged hatchet man
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Scholes' team had three times as many.
Scholes wasn't rated by many as highly as he is now after his post retirement elevation, especially by his peers, evidenced by Gerrard's many individual awards and Scholes' few.
Gerrard
Ballon d'Or third place: 2005
UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 2005
PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2005–06
PFA Young Player of the Year: 2000–01
PFA Premier League Team of the Year: 2000–01,[247] 2003–04,[248] 2004–05,[249] 2005–06,[250] 2006–07,[251] 2007–08,[252] 2008–09,[253] 2013–14[254]
PFA Fans' Player of the Year: 2000–01, 2008–09
PFA Merit Award: 2015
FWA Tribute Award: 2013
FWA Footballer of the Year: 2008–09
IFFHS World's Most Popular Footballer: 2006
Onze d'Argent: 2005[255]
FA England Player of the Year Award: 2007, 2012
Liverpool Player of the Season: 2004, 2006, 2007, 2009
Liverpool Fans Online Player of the Season: 2005,[256] 2007[257]
BBC Sports Personality of the Year Award – 3rd Place: 2005
FIFA FIFPro World XI: 2007, 2008, 2009
FIFA FIFPro World XI 5th team: 2013[258]
UEFA Team of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007
UEFA Ultimate Team of the Year[259]
UEFA Team of the Century[260]
UEFA European Championship Team of the Tournament: 2012
UEFA Champions League Final Man of The Match: 2005[261]
ESM Team of the Year: 2008–09
Premier League Player of the Month: March 2001, March 2003, December 2004, April 2006, March 2009, March 2014[262]
Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12)
Fantasy Teams of the 20 Seasons (Public choice)
MLS All-Star: 2015[263]
English Football Hall of Fame: 2017[264]
Match of the Day Premier League all-time XI: (published 2017)[265]
BBC Goal of the Season: 2006[266]
FIFA Club World Cup Silver Ball: 2005[267]
Premier League top assist provider: 2013–14[
Scholes
Jimmy Murphy Young Player of the Year: 1992–93[147]
Premier League Player of the Month: January 2003, December 2003, October 2006, August 2010[144]
Premier League PFA Team of the Year: 2002–03,[148] 2006–07[149]
Premier League 10 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2001–02)
Domestic & Overall Team of the Decade
English Football Hall of Fame Inductee: 2008[13]
Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12)
Fantasy Teams of the 20 Seasons (Panel & Public choice)
FWA Tribute Award: 2012[150]
FIFPro World XI Nominee: 2005, 2007[151]
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Supports my point. A brilliant team player against an attention seeking weirdo.
Top players make others better too and help their teams win things.
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No, it directly contradicts your point.
Gerrard was rated much higher when they played and as such got voted for many awards and was at one time third in votes for the worlds best player. Scholes never got near it.
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Tbh I'm not that interested in this debate. Im just bored.
Scholes marginally better for me.
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Of course you are as you're spouting nonsense. Gerrard was rated higher by their peers at the time of playing. Scholes received a post retirement elevation. You jumped on the bandwagon.
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I’ll give Gerrard two footed tackles and penalties
I’ll give Scholes passing ability, dribbling, ball control, shooting, awareness of people around him, dictating the tempo of a game etc etc
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Gerrard better passing, shooting heading, tackling dribbling, leadership. Scholes better at getting better each year after retiring.
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Gritting your teeth and flying into tackles isn’t a skill
Scholes was a cultured artist with a football brain, not a long legged hatchet man
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Yes which is what Scholes did and why he was a terrible tackler, whereas Gerrard was excellent at it.
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Scholes' team had three times as many.
Scholes wasn't rated by many as highly as he is now after his post retirement elevation, especially by his peers, evidenced by Gerrard's many individual awards and Scholes' few.
Gerrard
Ballon d'Or third place: 2005
UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 2005
PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2005–06
PFA Young Player of the Year: 2000–01
PFA Premier League Team of the Year: 2000–01,[247] 2003–04,[248] 2004–05,[249] 2005–06,[250] 2006–07,[251] 2007–08,[252] 2008–09,[253] 2013–14[254]
PFA Fans' Player of the Year: 2000–01, 2008–09
PFA Merit Award: 2015
FWA Tribute Award: 2013
FWA Footballer of the Year: 2008–09
IFFHS World's Most Popular Footballer: 2006
Onze d'Argent: 2005[255]
FA England Player of the Year Award: 2007, 2012
Liverpool Player of the Season: 2004, 2006, 2007, 2009
Liverpool Fans Online Player of the Season: 2005,[256] 2007[257]
BBC Sports Personality of the Year Award – 3rd Place: 2005
FIFA FIFPro World XI: 2007, 2008, 2009
FIFA FIFPro World XI 5th team: 2013[258]
UEFA Team of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007
UEFA Ultimate Team of the Year[259]
UEFA Team of the Century[260]
UEFA European Championship Team of the Tournament: 2012
UEFA Champions League Final Man of The Match: 2005[261]
ESM Team of the Year: 2008–09
Premier League Player of the Month: March 2001, March 2003, December 2004, April 2006, March 2009, March 2014[262]
Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12)
Fantasy Teams of the 20 Seasons (Public choice)
MLS All-Star: 2015[263]
English Football Hall of Fame: 2017[264]
Match of the Day Premier League all-time XI: (published 2017)[265]
BBC Goal of the Season: 2006[266]
FIFA Club World Cup Silver Ball: 2005[267]
Premier League top assist provider: 2013–14[
Scholes
Jimmy Murphy Young Player of the Year: 1992–93[147]
Premier League Player of the Month: January 2003, December 2003, October 2006, August 2010[144]
Premier League PFA Team of the Year: 2002–03,[148] 2006–07[149]
Premier League 10 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2001–02)
Domestic & Overall Team of the Decade
English Football Hall of Fame Inductee: 2008[13]
Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12)
Fantasy Teams of the 20 Seasons (Panel & Public choice)
FWA Tribute Award: 2012[150]
FIFPro World XI Nominee: 2005, 2007[151]
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Supports my point. A brilliant team player against an attention seeking weirdo.
Top players make others better too and help their teams win things.
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No, it directly contradicts your point.
Gerrard was rated much higher when they played and as such got voted for many awards and was at one time third in votes for the worlds best player. Scholes never got near it.
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Tbh I'm not that interested in this debate. Im just bored.
Scholes marginally better for me.
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Of course you are as you're spouting nonsense. Gerrard was rated higher by their peers at the time of playing. Scholes received a post retirement elevation. You jumped on the bandwagon.
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I’ll give Gerrard two footed tackles and penalties
I’ll give Scholes passing ability, dribbling, ball control, shooting, awareness of people around him, dictating the tempo of a game etc etc
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Gerrard better passing, shooting heading, tackling dribbling, leadership. Scholes better at getting better each year after retiring.
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Gritting your teeth and flying into tackles isn’t a skill
Scholes was a cultured artist with a football brain, not a long legged hatchet man
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Yes which is what Scholes did and why he was a terrible tackler, whereas Gerrard was excellent at it.
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So you say Gerrard was better than Scholes?
Who do you support?
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Scholes' team had three times as many.
Scholes wasn't rated by many as highly as he is now after his post retirement elevation, especially by his peers, evidenced by Gerrard's many individual awards and Scholes' few.
Gerrard
Ballon d'Or third place: 2005
UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 2005
PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2005–06
PFA Young Player of the Year: 2000–01
PFA Premier League Team of the Year: 2000–01,[247] 2003–04,[248] 2004–05,[249] 2005–06,[250] 2006–07,[251] 2007–08,[252] 2008–09,[253] 2013–14[254]
PFA Fans' Player of the Year: 2000–01, 2008–09
PFA Merit Award: 2015
FWA Tribute Award: 2013
FWA Footballer of the Year: 2008–09
IFFHS World's Most Popular Footballer: 2006
Onze d'Argent: 2005[255]
FA England Player of the Year Award: 2007, 2012
Liverpool Player of the Season: 2004, 2006, 2007, 2009
Liverpool Fans Online Player of the Season: 2005,[256] 2007[257]
BBC Sports Personality of the Year Award – 3rd Place: 2005
FIFA FIFPro World XI: 2007, 2008, 2009
FIFA FIFPro World XI 5th team: 2013[258]
UEFA Team of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007
UEFA Ultimate Team of the Year[259]
UEFA Team of the Century[260]
UEFA European Championship Team of the Tournament: 2012
UEFA Champions League Final Man of The Match: 2005[261]
ESM Team of the Year: 2008–09
Premier League Player of the Month: March 2001, March 2003, December 2004, April 2006, March 2009, March 2014[262]
Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12)
Fantasy Teams of the 20 Seasons (Public choice)
MLS All-Star: 2015[263]
English Football Hall of Fame: 2017[264]
Match of the Day Premier League all-time XI: (published 2017)[265]
BBC Goal of the Season: 2006[266]
FIFA Club World Cup Silver Ball: 2005[267]
Premier League top assist provider: 2013–14[
Scholes
Jimmy Murphy Young Player of the Year: 1992–93[147]
Premier League Player of the Month: January 2003, December 2003, October 2006, August 2010[144]
Premier League PFA Team of the Year: 2002–03,[148] 2006–07[149]
Premier League 10 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2001–02)
Domestic & Overall Team of the Decade
English Football Hall of Fame Inductee: 2008[13]
Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12)
Fantasy Teams of the 20 Seasons (Panel & Public choice)
FWA Tribute Award: 2012[150]
FIFPro World XI Nominee: 2005, 2007[151]
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Supports my point. A brilliant team player against an attention seeking weirdo.
Top players make others better too and help their teams win things.
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No, it directly contradicts your point.
Gerrard was rated much higher when they played and as such got voted for many awards and was at one time third in votes for the worlds best player. Scholes never got near it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tbh I'm not that interested in this debate. Im just bored.
Scholes marginally better for me.
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Of course you are as you're spouting nonsense. Gerrard was rated higher by their peers at the time of playing. Scholes received a post retirement elevation. You jumped on the bandwagon.
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I’ll give Gerrard two footed tackles and penalties
I’ll give Scholes passing ability, dribbling, ball control, shooting, awareness of people around him, dictating the tempo of a game etc etc
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Gerrard better passing, shooting heading, tackling dribbling, leadership. Scholes better at getting better each year after retiring.
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Gritting your teeth and flying into tackles isn’t a skill
Scholes was a cultured artist with a football brain, not a long legged hatchet man
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Yes which is what Scholes did and why he was a terrible tackler, whereas Gerrard was excellent at it.
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So you say Gerrard was better than Scholes?
Who do you support?
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Yes I support Liverpool. The peers who voted him for the above awards didn't. They didn't vote for Scholes. He has got better every year since retiring but fortunately the votes above were made when they actually played.
Gerrard is basically the white Moussa Sissoko
Man U and Celtic fans are unlikely to support SG
I vote Henry
Pfft - Scott Brown has more PFA player of the year awards than StevieG
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If Scott Brown played in England, he'd been in League One mate. Respect him as a battler and what he has done for Celtic but very limited ability.
TOOR’s Gerrard delusion still going strong.
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Pfft - Scott Brown has more PFA player of the year awards than StevieG
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If Scott Brown played in England, he'd been in League One mate. Respect him as a battler and what he has done for Celtic but very limited ability.
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He schooled Joey Barton who played Premier League
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He wasn't three years top scorer with Newcastle. Two were with Blackburn.
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Amazing striker sure others were more skillful but what a finisher. Some penalty take as well.
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comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 30 seconds ago
Scholes' team had three times as many.
Scholes wasn't rated by many as highly as he is now after his post retirement elevation, especially by his peers, evidenced by Gerrard's many individual awards and Scholes' few.
Gerrard
Ballon d'Or third place: 2005
UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 2005
PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2005–06
PFA Young Player of the Year: 2000–01
PFA Premier League Team of the Year: 2000–01,[247] 2003–04,[248] 2004–05,[249] 2005–06,[250] 2006–07,[251] 2007–08,[252] 2008–09,[253] 2013–14[254]
PFA Fans' Player of the Year: 2000–01, 2008–09
PFA Merit Award: 2015
FWA Tribute Award: 2013
FWA Footballer of the Year: 2008–09
IFFHS World's Most Popular Footballer: 2006
Onze d'Argent: 2005[255]
FA England Player of the Year Award: 2007, 2012
Liverpool Player of the Season: 2004, 2006, 2007, 2009
Liverpool Fans Online Player of the Season: 2005,[256] 2007[257]
BBC Sports Personality of the Year Award – 3rd Place: 2005
FIFA FIFPro World XI: 2007, 2008, 2009
FIFA FIFPro World XI 5th team: 2013[258]
UEFA Team of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007
UEFA Ultimate Team of the Year[259]
UEFA Team of the Century[260]
UEFA European Championship Team of the Tournament: 2012
UEFA Champions League Final Man of The Match: 2005[261]
ESM Team of the Year: 2008–09
Premier League Player of the Month: March 2001, March 2003, December 2004, April 2006, March 2009, March 2014[262]
Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12)
Fantasy Teams of the 20 Seasons (Public choice)
MLS All-Star: 2015[263]
English Football Hall of Fame: 2017[264]
Match of the Day Premier League all-time XI: (published 2017)[265]
BBC Goal of the Season: 2006[266]
FIFA Club World Cup Silver Ball: 2005[267]
Premier League top assist provider: 2013–14[
Scholes
Jimmy Murphy Young Player of the Year: 1992–93[147]
Premier League Player of the Month: January 2003, December 2003, October 2006, August 2010[144]
Premier League PFA Team of the Year: 2002–03,[148] 2006–07[149]
Premier League 10 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2001–02)
Domestic & Overall Team of the Decade
English Football Hall of Fame Inductee: 2008[13]
Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12)
Fantasy Teams of the 20 Seasons (Panel & Public choice)
FWA Tribute Award: 2012[150]
FIFPro World XI Nominee: 2005, 2007[151]
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Supports my point. A brilliant team player against an attention seeking weirdo.
Top players make others better too and help their teams win things.
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No, it directly contradicts your point.
Gerrard was rated much higher when they played and as such got voted for many awards and was at one time third in votes for the worlds best player. Scholes never got near it.
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Tbh I'm not that interested in this debate. Im just bored.
Scholes marginally better for me.
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Of course you are as you're spouting nonsense. Gerrard was rated higher by their peers at the time of playing. Scholes received a post retirement elevation. You jumped on the bandwagon.
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I’ll give Gerrard two footed tackles and penalties
I’ll give Scholes passing ability, dribbling, ball control, shooting, awareness of people around him, dictating the tempo of a game etc etc
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Gerrard better passing, shooting heading, tackling dribbling, leadership. Scholes better at getting better each year after retiring.
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Gritting your teeth and flying into tackles isn’t a skill
Scholes was a cultured artist with a football brain, not a long legged hatchet man
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comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
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Scholes' team had three times as many.
Scholes wasn't rated by many as highly as he is now after his post retirement elevation, especially by his peers, evidenced by Gerrard's many individual awards and Scholes' few.
Gerrard
Ballon d'Or third place: 2005
UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 2005
PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2005–06
PFA Young Player of the Year: 2000–01
PFA Premier League Team of the Year: 2000–01,[247] 2003–04,[248] 2004–05,[249] 2005–06,[250] 2006–07,[251] 2007–08,[252] 2008–09,[253] 2013–14[254]
PFA Fans' Player of the Year: 2000–01, 2008–09
PFA Merit Award: 2015
FWA Tribute Award: 2013
FWA Footballer of the Year: 2008–09
IFFHS World's Most Popular Footballer: 2006
Onze d'Argent: 2005[255]
FA England Player of the Year Award: 2007, 2012
Liverpool Player of the Season: 2004, 2006, 2007, 2009
Liverpool Fans Online Player of the Season: 2005,[256] 2007[257]
BBC Sports Personality of the Year Award – 3rd Place: 2005
FIFA FIFPro World XI: 2007, 2008, 2009
FIFA FIFPro World XI 5th team: 2013[258]
UEFA Team of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007
UEFA Ultimate Team of the Year[259]
UEFA Team of the Century[260]
UEFA European Championship Team of the Tournament: 2012
UEFA Champions League Final Man of The Match: 2005[261]
ESM Team of the Year: 2008–09
Premier League Player of the Month: March 2001, March 2003, December 2004, April 2006, March 2009, March 2014[262]
Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12)
Fantasy Teams of the 20 Seasons (Public choice)
MLS All-Star: 2015[263]
English Football Hall of Fame: 2017[264]
Match of the Day Premier League all-time XI: (published 2017)[265]
BBC Goal of the Season: 2006[266]
FIFA Club World Cup Silver Ball: 2005[267]
Premier League top assist provider: 2013–14[
Scholes
Jimmy Murphy Young Player of the Year: 1992–93[147]
Premier League Player of the Month: January 2003, December 2003, October 2006, August 2010[144]
Premier League PFA Team of the Year: 2002–03,[148] 2006–07[149]
Premier League 10 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2001–02)
Domestic & Overall Team of the Decade
English Football Hall of Fame Inductee: 2008[13]
Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12)
Fantasy Teams of the 20 Seasons (Panel & Public choice)
FWA Tribute Award: 2012[150]
FIFPro World XI Nominee: 2005, 2007[151]
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Supports my point. A brilliant team player against an attention seeking weirdo.
Top players make others better too and help their teams win things.
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No, it directly contradicts your point.
Gerrard was rated much higher when they played and as such got voted for many awards and was at one time third in votes for the worlds best player. Scholes never got near it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tbh I'm not that interested in this debate. Im just bored.
Scholes marginally better for me.
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Of course you are as you're spouting nonsense. Gerrard was rated higher by their peers at the time of playing. Scholes received a post retirement elevation. You jumped on the bandwagon.
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I’ll give Gerrard two footed tackles and penalties
I’ll give Scholes passing ability, dribbling, ball control, shooting, awareness of people around him, dictating the tempo of a game etc etc
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Gerrard better passing, shooting heading, tackling dribbling, leadership. Scholes better at getting better each year after retiring.
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Gritting your teeth and flying into tackles isn’t a skill
Scholes was a cultured artist with a football brain, not a long legged hatchet man
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Yes which is what Scholes did and why he was a terrible tackler, whereas Gerrard was excellent at it.
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Scholes' team had three times as many.
Scholes wasn't rated by many as highly as he is now after his post retirement elevation, especially by his peers, evidenced by Gerrard's many individual awards and Scholes' few.
Gerrard
Ballon d'Or third place: 2005
UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 2005
PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2005–06
PFA Young Player of the Year: 2000–01
PFA Premier League Team of the Year: 2000–01,[247] 2003–04,[248] 2004–05,[249] 2005–06,[250] 2006–07,[251] 2007–08,[252] 2008–09,[253] 2013–14[254]
PFA Fans' Player of the Year: 2000–01, 2008–09
PFA Merit Award: 2015
FWA Tribute Award: 2013
FWA Footballer of the Year: 2008–09
IFFHS World's Most Popular Footballer: 2006
Onze d'Argent: 2005[255]
FA England Player of the Year Award: 2007, 2012
Liverpool Player of the Season: 2004, 2006, 2007, 2009
Liverpool Fans Online Player of the Season: 2005,[256] 2007[257]
BBC Sports Personality of the Year Award – 3rd Place: 2005
FIFA FIFPro World XI: 2007, 2008, 2009
FIFA FIFPro World XI 5th team: 2013[258]
UEFA Team of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007
UEFA Ultimate Team of the Year[259]
UEFA Team of the Century[260]
UEFA European Championship Team of the Tournament: 2012
UEFA Champions League Final Man of The Match: 2005[261]
ESM Team of the Year: 2008–09
Premier League Player of the Month: March 2001, March 2003, December 2004, April 2006, March 2009, March 2014[262]
Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12)
Fantasy Teams of the 20 Seasons (Public choice)
MLS All-Star: 2015[263]
English Football Hall of Fame: 2017[264]
Match of the Day Premier League all-time XI: (published 2017)[265]
BBC Goal of the Season: 2006[266]
FIFA Club World Cup Silver Ball: 2005[267]
Premier League top assist provider: 2013–14[
Scholes
Jimmy Murphy Young Player of the Year: 1992–93[147]
Premier League Player of the Month: January 2003, December 2003, October 2006, August 2010[144]
Premier League PFA Team of the Year: 2002–03,[148] 2006–07[149]
Premier League 10 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2001–02)
Domestic & Overall Team of the Decade
English Football Hall of Fame Inductee: 2008[13]
Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12)
Fantasy Teams of the 20 Seasons (Panel & Public choice)
FWA Tribute Award: 2012[150]
FIFPro World XI Nominee: 2005, 2007[151]
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Supports my point. A brilliant team player against an attention seeking weirdo.
Top players make others better too and help their teams win things.
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No, it directly contradicts your point.
Gerrard was rated much higher when they played and as such got voted for many awards and was at one time third in votes for the worlds best player. Scholes never got near it.
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Tbh I'm not that interested in this debate. Im just bored.
Scholes marginally better for me.
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Of course you are as you're spouting nonsense. Gerrard was rated higher by their peers at the time of playing. Scholes received a post retirement elevation. You jumped on the bandwagon.
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I’ll give Gerrard two footed tackles and penalties
I’ll give Scholes passing ability, dribbling, ball control, shooting, awareness of people around him, dictating the tempo of a game etc etc
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Gerrard better passing, shooting heading, tackling dribbling, leadership. Scholes better at getting better each year after retiring.
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Gritting your teeth and flying into tackles isn’t a skill
Scholes was a cultured artist with a football brain, not a long legged hatchet man
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Yes which is what Scholes did and why he was a terrible tackler, whereas Gerrard was excellent at it.
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So you say Gerrard was better than Scholes?
Who do you support?
posted on 15/3/20
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comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
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comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
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comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
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Scholes' team had three times as many.
Scholes wasn't rated by many as highly as he is now after his post retirement elevation, especially by his peers, evidenced by Gerrard's many individual awards and Scholes' few.
Gerrard
Ballon d'Or third place: 2005
UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 2005
PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2005–06
PFA Young Player of the Year: 2000–01
PFA Premier League Team of the Year: 2000–01,[247] 2003–04,[248] 2004–05,[249] 2005–06,[250] 2006–07,[251] 2007–08,[252] 2008–09,[253] 2013–14[254]
PFA Fans' Player of the Year: 2000–01, 2008–09
PFA Merit Award: 2015
FWA Tribute Award: 2013
FWA Footballer of the Year: 2008–09
IFFHS World's Most Popular Footballer: 2006
Onze d'Argent: 2005[255]
FA England Player of the Year Award: 2007, 2012
Liverpool Player of the Season: 2004, 2006, 2007, 2009
Liverpool Fans Online Player of the Season: 2005,[256] 2007[257]
BBC Sports Personality of the Year Award – 3rd Place: 2005
FIFA FIFPro World XI: 2007, 2008, 2009
FIFA FIFPro World XI 5th team: 2013[258]
UEFA Team of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007
UEFA Ultimate Team of the Year[259]
UEFA Team of the Century[260]
UEFA European Championship Team of the Tournament: 2012
UEFA Champions League Final Man of The Match: 2005[261]
ESM Team of the Year: 2008–09
Premier League Player of the Month: March 2001, March 2003, December 2004, April 2006, March 2009, March 2014[262]
Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12)
Fantasy Teams of the 20 Seasons (Public choice)
MLS All-Star: 2015[263]
English Football Hall of Fame: 2017[264]
Match of the Day Premier League all-time XI: (published 2017)[265]
BBC Goal of the Season: 2006[266]
FIFA Club World Cup Silver Ball: 2005[267]
Premier League top assist provider: 2013–14[
Scholes
Jimmy Murphy Young Player of the Year: 1992–93[147]
Premier League Player of the Month: January 2003, December 2003, October 2006, August 2010[144]
Premier League PFA Team of the Year: 2002–03,[148] 2006–07[149]
Premier League 10 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2001–02)
Domestic & Overall Team of the Decade
English Football Hall of Fame Inductee: 2008[13]
Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12)
Fantasy Teams of the 20 Seasons (Panel & Public choice)
FWA Tribute Award: 2012[150]
FIFPro World XI Nominee: 2005, 2007[151]
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Supports my point. A brilliant team player against an attention seeking weirdo.
Top players make others better too and help their teams win things.
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No, it directly contradicts your point.
Gerrard was rated much higher when they played and as such got voted for many awards and was at one time third in votes for the worlds best player. Scholes never got near it.
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Tbh I'm not that interested in this debate. Im just bored.
Scholes marginally better for me.
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Of course you are as you're spouting nonsense. Gerrard was rated higher by their peers at the time of playing. Scholes received a post retirement elevation. You jumped on the bandwagon.
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I’ll give Gerrard two footed tackles and penalties
I’ll give Scholes passing ability, dribbling, ball control, shooting, awareness of people around him, dictating the tempo of a game etc etc
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Gerrard better passing, shooting heading, tackling dribbling, leadership. Scholes better at getting better each year after retiring.
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Gritting your teeth and flying into tackles isn’t a skill
Scholes was a cultured artist with a football brain, not a long legged hatchet man
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Yes which is what Scholes did and why he was a terrible tackler, whereas Gerrard was excellent at it.
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So you say Gerrard was better than Scholes?
Who do you support?
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Yes I support Liverpool. The peers who voted him for the above awards didn't. They didn't vote for Scholes. He has got better every year since retiring but fortunately the votes above were made when they actually played.
posted on 15/3/20
Gerrard is basically the white Moussa Sissoko
posted on 15/3/20
Man U and Celtic fans are unlikely to support SG
I vote Henry
posted on 15/3/20
Pfft - Scott Brown has more PFA player of the year awards than StevieG
posted on 15/3/20
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 14 minutes ago
Pfft - Scott Brown has more PFA player of the year awards than StevieG
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If Scott Brown played in England, he'd been in League One mate. Respect him as a battler and what he has done for Celtic but very limited ability.
posted on 15/3/20
TOOR’s Gerrard delusion still going strong.
posted on 15/3/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 14 minutes ago
Pfft - Scott Brown has more PFA player of the year awards than StevieG
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If Scott Brown played in England, he'd been in League One mate. Respect him as a battler and what he has done for Celtic but very limited ability.
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He schooled Joey Barton who played Premier League
Take your snobbery back to your millionaires playground, we'll stick to football that is still for the real fans
posted on 15/3/20
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posted on 15/3/20
Brown would have been a premier league player, no doubt, even though he comes across as a bit of a d.ck!
posted on 15/3/20
This is no fun they’re practically jumping into the keep net.
posted on 15/3/20
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