I domino think that they'll even be allowed to play behind closed doors.

You need security and medical staff at the stadium, then you have both sets of teams, coaches and physios, then they have to travel, so you have the coach driver and any support staff to prepare kit etc that's actually quite a lot of people just for one match potentially cross contaminating each other, now multiply that by all teh matches, I just cannot see it being allowed for quite some time and by that I mean at least June at this point and I believe that will get pushed out further just as in Spain they have now said it's indefinite.

No way am i going to watch a game behind closed doors.

No, nay, never.

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Ok, lets say you have match on Saturday, it means you have to test everyone some days before to get results back in time for all clear on Saturday.

In that time someone can get infected and you wouldn't know.

You are talking about at least 80 people tested per match.

Additionally you are asking health services to prioritise this above genuine cases at a time when testing kits are limited.

You could go private for the tests, that is £375 per person.

It's really just not workable.

No reasons why they cant play behind closed doors, security won't be as much as a open game, medical staff will more or less be the clubs staff, Ambulances, maybe 2 for if one is needed!..

People not on the pitch, the ref and the linesmen can all wear masks!..

Players will be testing regularly, they should be all ok and on the pitch, anyone spitting should be booked!..

No need for spitting anyway at any game, I'm sure some only do it for the camera!..

People not on the pitch, the ref and the linesmen can all wear masks!..
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You can't run around the pitch for 90 minutes with masks on!

comment by LufcGermany (U6066)
posted 22 minutes ago
No reasons why they cant play behind closed doors, security won't be as much as a open game, medical staff will more or less be the clubs staff, Ambulances, maybe 2 for if one is needed!..

People not on the pitch, the ref and the linesmen can all wear masks!..

Players will be testing regularly, they should be all ok and on the pitch, anyone spitting should be booked!..

No need for spitting anyway at any game, I'm sure some only do it for the camera!..
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You can't open a stadium without some minimum levels of staff.

One imagines that you'd have a team of 2 preparing the dressing rooms, heating, lighting etc. You'd then have medical team in case of emergencies, another 2/3, then some security staff 6-10 potentially catering staff manning bar or preparing some refreshments - 3/4. Then you have officials - 4 and press and staff to assist all those. It's no small task even for a behind closed doors fixture in terms of number of people all coming into close contact with each other.

How are players testing regularly exactly, these tests are £375 a pop, you have 25 players or so in a squad, that's 10 grand every test. I really doubt players are being tested at all unless there is causes to do so and I haven't seen any cause yet.

If you plan a match for 15:00 on Saturday, there is zero way to guarantee everyone involved in that match is virus free.

Why does it have to be at a stadium.
Every club in the premiership and championship have full sized secure training pitches ut can take place at.

Why does anyone other than the head coach/manager and maybe his assistant need to be there on the day?

Why does there need to be more than one medical team for both clubs?

There are ways to get the number of people needed down.

Not that I think games will happen for a long time

Don't forget tv crews. These games won't go ahead without tv crews

comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
Ok, lets say you have match on Saturday, it means you have to test everyone some days before to get results back in time for all clear on Saturday.

In that time someone can get infected and you wouldn't know.

You are talking about at least 80 people tested per match.

Additionally you are asking health services to prioritise this above genuine cases at a time when testing kits are limited.

You could go private for the tests, that is £375 per person.

It's really just not workable.


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absolute bile

I'd be amazed if any football is played before September, even behind closed doors - and even that is pushing it in my view.

As a country we need to sort out who can go outside and who can't first up. Until we get a proper grip on the population getting out and about, then we're not going to start getting on top of this virus anytime soon. Lets not forget that locking down the population isn't the cure for this, it's purely to slow down the spread so that the NHS can handle it better.

And then what about footballers with existing conditions who don't want to be put at risk, with say asthma, lung, heart problems, diabetes, blood pressure issues.

It's not a viable proposition any time soon.

I think people also have to bear in mind where we are in the lifecycle of this thing. We are right at the beginning, meaning its gets worse from here on in, not better, then there is a societal recovery from the shock of the scale of it all, the collective mental health of our country and others is in for a massive trauma.

5th and 6th tier have had there season's suspended. Its now a matter of 'points per game' to decide winners and promotions and relegations or null and void.

"How are players testing regularly exactly, these tests are £375 a pop,"

Was it not you that posted that £375 a pop that Doctor was charging?... was that the going fee or was he profiting on it?..

And I'd bet clubs are keeping a closer eye on their players than you seem to think!..

Security, you wouldn't need any more then the Match day Stewards, infact it'd more than likely be them doing it!..

Catering, if done correctly they'd have the protective clothing and everything else that's needed for their protection and others!..

Masks!.......You can't run around the pitch for 90 minutes with masks on!......bull crap, Military use Masks and do exercises in them for a much longer time than 90mins, I'm sure they can tell you its possible!......maybe the Ref and Linesmen can go without, but everybody else in the Stadium at that time should be made to wear them!..

Medical teams and Doctors, the top league teams all clubs have their own!..

Only thing needed would be a Ambulance or two!..

All the staff and everything needed, a closed door game wouldn't need that much of any, and if done correctly they wouldn't even come in contact with the players!..

Oh, TV, they can do them outdoors with a screen in front of whoever is being interviewed!..

Mattyp has an idea that'd cut things down even less!..

"Why does it have to be at a stadium.
Every club in the premiership and championship have full sized secure training pitches ut can take place at."

Not sure about Derby but that would be something worth looking at!..

comment by LufcGermany (U6066)
posted 33 minutes ago
"How are players testing regularly exactly, these tests are £375 a pop,"

Was it not you that posted that £375 a pop that Doctor was charging?... was that the going fee or was he profiting on it?..
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Clinics charging £375 for a test, thats if they have any kits available. This is not something players are going to be doing regularly.


Security, you wouldn't need any more then the Match day Stewards, infact it'd more than likely be them doing it!..
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Leeds have hundreds of stewards on a match day, surely you're not suggesting we need all those? You will need some to protect the players off coach, to provide security for the building etc, I estimated 6-10, its an estimate.

Catering, if done correctly they'd have the protective clothing and everything else that's needed for their protection and others!..
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You're missing the point, they would all need to have been tested beforehand and its extra people that you then have cross contamination from in their journeys to club and whilst at club etc.

Masks!.......You can't run around the pitch for 90 minutes with masks on!......bull crap, Military use Masks and do exercises in them for a much longer time than 90mins, I'm sure they can tell you its possible!......maybe the Ref and Linesmen can go without, but everybody else in the Stadium at that time should be made to wear them!..
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Am assuming that this is actually a joke.

Medical teams and Doctors, the top league teams all clubs have their own!..
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Again you are missing the point, the more people there, the more who need to have been tested and the more risk or cross contamination.

Only thing needed would be a Ambulance or two!..

All the staff and everything needed, a closed door game wouldn't need that much of any, and if done correctly they wouldn't even come in contact with the players!..
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There will be loads of contact points.

"Am assuming that this is actually a joke."

The joke is a lot of what you've underlined and commented on, because of the simple reason, what I've written can be done!..

Your way nothing will be done, but eventually something has to be done, which I'm sure when it is it'll bring your world crashing down!..

Anybody doing any job can be kitted out with the right clothing to protect themselves and others and the only people that need to come in direct contact would be the teams, the ref, and the linesmen!..

Everybody else can be kept apart!..

Just another itch for an argument, and before you say anything else, I have not said once that anything should be done before the authorities think it is safe enough to do so!..

So, underline all my comments all you want!..

And the joke about the masks, there are Countries that use them day in day out, nothing wrong with people in a stadium that ain't running around using them!..

Even though people can run with them!..

Footballers are not going to be playing Championship matches kitted out in protective clothing.

Masks!.......You can't run around the pitch for 90 minutes with masks on!......bull crap, Military use Masks and do exercises in them for a much longer time than 90mins, I'm sure they can tell you its possible!......maybe the Ref and Linesmen can go without, but everybody else in the Stadium at that time should be made to wear them!..

This made me chuckle. I'm ex-military, I've done exercises you describe, suited and masked up, only once (during an exercise) where we had the full works on for 5 days mind. Awful, awful experience. I'd rather pull the mask (respirator) off and take a big deep breath than have to go through that again. That aside, we only did short bursts of high energy exercise. Nothing like kicking a ball for 90 mins in a competitive footy match.

Now I know you're not thinking of that kit, more the clinical masks we have at work at the moment. Sorry, it's still a no from me. If you need to wear it, there's still a fear the virus is around - therefore no crowd gathering, even a few players and support staff. It's just not happening.

Ludicrous - but funny - suggestion.

"That aside, we only did short bursts of high energy exercise. Nothing like kicking a ball for 90 mins in a competitive footy match."

You didn't do the log race fully kitted then?.

I don’t think people realise the scale of this. Still folk going into work which is ‘non essential’ because their bosses want to keep making money. We’re not even close to getting near this. Football is miles away from re starting, might not even be this year because people will still be at risk. Sad fooking times.

Hope everyone is keeping well, I work in food production, sat in a tractor cab most the day at the moment. Had a chat with 4 colleagues earlier, all stood 4 meters away from each other. So weird.

I think the point of the article is that at some point, the way forward will be to play behind closed doors BEFORE you can have matches played in front of a stadium with fans.

"In order for us [the PFA] to be able to protect those players in terms of securing their salaries, if that's the only offer we have on the table to complete the season, then that is what it will be."
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PFA don’t give an eff about the fans as long as the players get paid....

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Completely agree GT but you can see all PFA are really concerned about.

Great to see some clubs players taking salary cut to ensure lesser paid staff still get paid, but lets face it, many players could take a decent cut and still survive very comfortably. I would be expecting all players to be looking at this right now for the very survival of their clubs.

I see football being postponed till June as the game here tries to buy itself more time and then the issues of contracts kick in. Then I expect you'll start to hear talk of finding a fair way to end season and ultimately I think it will not get completed at all as they realise that we're going to have some form of social distancing for teh next 12 months.

Then there will be pressure from TV companies like Sky who are going to lose customers hand over fist as they have no sport to show, will not want to honour their contract with football if football has no product to offer.

Sooner or later, just like PFA, these people will be thinking money first.

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