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posted on 27/3/20

comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
What % of club revenue is related to cup gate receipts or prize money?
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Irrelevant.

You're advocating taking away potential earnings from lower league clubs to suit your own agenda. That's enough for me to have already stopped taking your opinion seriously. Stay safe.
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You said it was to do with fans experience a minute ago. Lower league club revenue is a tiny % from cup games unless they get a good draw. They don't budget for it. Deal with it.
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No I didnt. I'd previously expressed an opinion as to why I personally don't want to see another season ruined. That's separate to the even bigger picture of taking revenue streams away from smaller clubs.

"Deal with it" - Brilliant. Absolutely screams "I don't actually care about football, just my own already rich team". Which is why I've already washed my hands with your sh-tty, self-serving opinion, remember?

posted on 27/3/20

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posted on 27/3/20

comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
What % of club revenue is related to cup gate receipts or prize money?
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Irrelevant.

You're advocating taking away potential earnings from lower league clubs to suit your own agenda. That's enough for me to have already stopped taking your opinion seriously. Stay safe.
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You said it was to do with fans experience a minute ago. Lower league club revenue is a tiny % from cup games unless they get a good draw. They don't budget for it. Deal with it.
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No I didnt. I'd previously expressed an opinion as to why I personally don't want to see another season ruined. That's separate to the even bigger picture of taking revenue streams away from smaller clubs.

"Deal with it" - Brilliant. Absolutely screams "I don't actually care about football, just my own already rich team". Which is why I've already washed my hands with your sh-tty, self-serving opinion, remember?
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Playing the remainder of this season over a month will not ruin next season, whenever it may be.

posted on 27/3/20

comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
What % of club revenue is related to cup gate receipts or prize money?
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Irrelevant.

You're advocating taking away potential earnings from lower league clubs to suit your own agenda. That's enough for me to have already stopped taking your opinion seriously. Stay safe.
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You said it was to do with fans experience a minute ago. Lower league club revenue is a tiny % from cup games unless they get a good draw. They don't budget for it. Deal with it.
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No I didnt. I'd previously expressed an opinion as to why I personally don't want to see another season ruined. That's separate to the even bigger picture of taking revenue streams away from smaller clubs.

"Deal with it" - Brilliant. Absolutely screams "I don't actually care about football, just my own already rich team". Which is why I've already washed my hands with your sh-tty, self-serving opinion, remember?
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I remember you saying it, yet here you are. Until you can show me just what impact on lower league finances the cup comps have, you opinion means nothing.... I’ll give you a clue though, all lower league clubs can survive without it.!
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If you asked all chairmen of clubs below the Premier League whether or not they'd want cup competitions scrapped, what would be the majority vote do you reckon, just in your own opinion? And should Premier League clubs have the right to take ANY kind of financial opportunity away from clubs in the leagues below?

posted on 27/3/20

comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
What % of club revenue is related to cup gate receipts or prize money?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Irrelevant.

You're advocating taking away potential earnings from lower league clubs to suit your own agenda. That's enough for me to have already stopped taking your opinion seriously. Stay safe.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You said it was to do with fans experience a minute ago. Lower league club revenue is a tiny % from cup games unless they get a good draw. They don't budget for it. Deal with it.
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No I didnt. I'd previously expressed an opinion as to why I personally don't want to see another season ruined. That's separate to the even bigger picture of taking revenue streams away from smaller clubs.

"Deal with it" - Brilliant. Absolutely screams "I don't actually care about football, just my own already rich team". Which is why I've already washed my hands with your sh-tty, self-serving opinion, remember?
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Playing the remainder of this season over a month will not ruin next season, whenever it may be.
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No, it wouldn't, not if it could be achieved. That's assuming it can actually be done though. Setting up a season isn't like playing a FIFA tournament with your mates though. Even the creation of the fixture list is a logistical nightmare based on thousands of variables including transport networks, policing issues, local geographical problems, etc, etc. At some point the planning for next season will need to be started and it can't be done at the drop of a hat, or just ad-libbed when one league finally gets completed. Now that leagues which affect promotion and relegation from still running leagues have been concluded, there will be understandable pressure on from these clubs lower down within the pyramid to restart. And they can't restart until everything is back in synchronisation. They can't wait forever.

I already said I don't have an anti-liverpool bias (anyone boring enough to do the whole posting history search would be able to see that), and the PL title is about the only thing outstanding I actually think could be concluded, so long as those who can still catch you would be willing to concede, something I actually think in the current climate they would agree to, but any promotion or relegation issues should be voided. That is of course based on my assumption that this problem extends beyond 30th June. After that date, I really think the onus should be on getting the next season planned, even if it means an October start date or beyond.

It's only opinions. I actually think it'll go to a vote amongst the PL chairmen...where that leaves you is anyone's guess.

posted on 27/3/20

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posted on 27/3/20

comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
What % of club revenue is related to cup gate receipts or prize money?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Irrelevant.

You're advocating taking away potential earnings from lower league clubs to suit your own agenda. That's enough for me to have already stopped taking your opinion seriously. Stay safe.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You said it was to do with fans experience a minute ago. Lower league club revenue is a tiny % from cup games unless they get a good draw. They don't budget for it. Deal with it.
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No I didnt. I'd previously expressed an opinion as to why I personally don't want to see another season ruined. That's separate to the even bigger picture of taking revenue streams away from smaller clubs.

"Deal with it" - Brilliant. Absolutely screams "I don't actually care about football, just my own already rich team". Which is why I've already washed my hands with your sh-tty, self-serving opinion, remember?
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I remember you saying it, yet here you are. Until you can show me just what impact on lower league finances the cup comps have, you opinion means nothing.... I’ll give you a clue though, all lower league clubs can survive without it.!
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If you asked all chairmen of clubs below the Premier League whether or not they'd want cup competitions scrapped, what would be the majority vote do you reckon, just in your own opinion? And should Premier League clubs have the right to take ANY kind of financial opportunity away from clubs in the leagues below?


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The majority won't want this season scrapped either. Still may happen.
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Nor do I. I mean, I'm fairly sure my team will stay up anyway, but like all football people, I want us to earn it by playing all our scheduled fixtures. That's my hope as a fan anyway, I just don't see how it can happen?

Fact is though, for many fans and players of smaller teams still linked to the bigger leagues through the pyramid system, their season has already been scrapped. There'll be no sympathy for the big leagues from those who have been told the promotion they've already celebrated isn't going to count.

posted on 27/3/20

Why have they done this now?

Surely its easier to get the lower divisional games played as the police, stewarding and the corporate side of things are virtually non existent.

Its been done to get folk gradually used to the idea that the 19/20 season is over. As I've said countless times protecting the 20/21 season will be the main focus although they won't admit that yet.

posted on 27/3/20

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 24 minutes ago
Why have they done this now?

Surely its easier to get the lower divisional games played as the police, stewarding and the corporate side of things are virtually non existent.

Its been done to get folk gradually used to the idea that the 19/20 season is over. As I've said countless times protecting the 20/21 season will be the main focus although they won't admit that yet.


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Yeah that decision forced me to think the exact same thing; that they're going to dripfeed the same outcome up the leagues gradually.

posted on 27/3/20

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posted on 27/3/20

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 hours, 34 minutes ago
Why have they done this now?

Surely its easier to get the lower divisional games played as the police, stewarding and the corporate side of things are virtually non existent.

Its been done to get folk gradually used to the idea that the 19/20 season is over. As I've said countless times protecting the 20/21 season will be the main focus although they won't admit that yet.


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Won't happen unfortunately. The financial ramifications for Pl teams ending a season prematurely would be huge. It's also far easier to play 8 games to get a season completed than risk starting another.

If a new season is started anytime before a cure is found there is always the risk of a new outbreak. The idea of a new season having to be cancelled after a few games would destroy football at all levels. Look at the mayhem delaying the last few games has caused.

Next season has far more chance of being wiped with 0 games played than ending the current Pl campaign. I also can't see the cups being finished. They are peripheral comps when it's all said and done, compared to the league.

posted on 27/3/20

comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 hours, 34 minutes ago
Why have they done this now?

Surely its easier to get the lower divisional games played as the police, stewarding and the corporate side of things are virtually non existent.

Its been done to get folk gradually used to the idea that the 19/20 season is over. As I've said countless times protecting the 20/21 season will be the main focus although they won't admit that yet.


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Won't happen unfortunately. The financial ramifications for Pl teams ending a season prematurely would be huge. It's also far easier to play 8 games to get a season completed than risk starting another.

If a new season is started anytime before a cure is found there is always the risk of a new outbreak. The idea of a new season having to be cancelled after a few games would destroy football at all levels. Look at the mayhem delaying the last few games has caused.

Next season has far more chance of being wiped with 0 games played than ending the current Pl campaign. I also can't see the cups being finished. They are peripheral comps when it's all said and done, compared to the league.
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Not saying you're wrong by any stretch as I dont think you are, but aren't the financial ramifications of not starting a new season also huge, particularly for those who have now finished their leagues? They can't realistically restart until all the other leagues are done and dusted, but without any football they'll just have to wind up. Is that not something the wider footballing community should care more about?

I'm all for getting this season finished, just not at the detriment of others. Is there any realism to the suggestion that whilst all other non leagues remain inactive, the Premier League could maybe fund them in order to finish their own affairs, similarly the EFL but on a much smaller scale? Unprecedented and just an idea that has been floating round my head a few days, but it would ensure both the integrity of the competitions and the long term future of the game. Be something else if the legacy of this pandemic actually could help bridge the relationship between the PL and the non league. Just a thought.

posted on 27/3/20

80+ posts, sorry if anyone has already said this but I'm a slow reader and 80+ is a bit much!..

I think they should do the right thing and open the way for the lower leagues to have the same right as the higher leagues!..

If the higher leagues close up shop than all leagues should do the same!..

So, they shut the higher leagues up without promotion or relegation, the lower divisions do the same, and with promotions and relegations than it should be for all!..

Whoever had the idea to shut the lower leagues out don't deserve the job/power they have!..

And the Championship has voted to finish the season at the best and safest time possible!..

posted on 27/3/20

comment by LufcGermany (U6066)
posted 3 minutes ago
80+ posts, sorry if anyone has already said this but I'm a slow reader and 80+ is a bit much!..

I think they should do the right thing and open the way for the lower leagues to have the same right as the higher leagues!..

If the higher leagues close up shop than all leagues should do the same!..

So, they shut the higher leagues up without promotion or relegation, the lower divisions do the same, and with promotions and relegations than it should be for all!..

Whoever had the idea to shut the lower leagues out don't deserve the job/power they have!..

And the Championship has voted to finish the season at the best and safest time possible!..
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Yeah the FA have well and truly shafted some of those poor non league clubs. It may turn out to have been the right decision, but should never have been imposed unless a full blanket close down and void of every single league had been agreed upon.

The money and greed has killed football and it's taken a global pandemic to truly underline it. I'm not sure my fondness for the game will be anywhere near what it was when it all returns. It's all just too f-cking grubby for me.

posted on 27/3/20

Relation and Promotion involves all the Leagues, you have them coming up the ladder in the hope in years to come they can make the big time!..

Some x-proffi teams are now outside the big times, and this is just feckin things up for anyone hoping to replace the next!..

posted on 28/3/20

A season completed not in accordance with the accepted rules, regulations and standards set out before it begins, can only be considered illegitimate, and would carry zero credence or acceptance.

posted on 29/3/20

comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 11 hours, 58 minutes ago
A season completed not in accordance with the accepted rules, regulations and standards set out before it begins, can only be considered illegitimate, and would carry zero credence or acceptance.
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Lol course. You been for a smoke at the Emirates? 😅
VAR makes this the most credible season in existence.

Some of you are just desperate to tarnish the inevitable, Pool winning the league. Cracks me up how you guys try to mask it

posted on 29/3/20

comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 3 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 11 hours, 58 minutes ago
A season completed not in accordance with the accepted rules, regulations and standards set out before it begins, can only be considered illegitimate, and would carry zero credence or acceptance.
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Lol course. You been for a smoke at the Emirates? 😅
VAR makes this the most credible season in existence.

Some of you are just desperate to tarnish the inevitable, Pool winning the league. Cracks me up how you guys try to mask it
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VAR is another reason why the season has already been tarnished, all VAR has done is expose the obvious bias and favouritism that is rife in football.

Nobody is desperate to tarnish a Pool title win, the season has been tarnished irretrievably already, without the input of rival fans.

The whole season is meaningless, for so many reasons. Hopefully VAR is binned for next season also.

posted on 29/3/20

comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 3 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 11 hours, 58 minutes ago
A season completed not in accordance with the accepted rules, regulations and standards set out before it begins, can only be considered illegitimate, and would carry zero credence or acceptance.
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Lol course. You been for a smoke at the Emirates? 😅
VAR makes this the most credible season in existence.

Some of you are just desperate to tarnish the inevitable, Pool winning the league. Cracks me up how you guys try to mask it
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VAR is another reason why the season has already been tarnished, all VAR has done is expose the obvious bias and favouritism that is rife in football.

Nobody is desperate to tarnish a Pool title win, the season has been tarnished irretrievably already, without the input of rival fans.

The whole season is meaningless, for so many reasons. Hopefully VAR is binned for next season also.
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You'd be less all-over-the-place if you swallowed a live grenade.

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