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Growing number of clubs want season voided

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posted on 28/3/20

I think this better explains the point, though they don't reveal the source the original interview was published in the Athletic so I would say it's pretty reputable.

football365.com/news/premier-league-coronavirus-season-voided-moral-grounds-liverpool-title

posted on 28/3/20


Can someone explain the morality of voiding a season over delaying the end of one?

posted on 28/3/20

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posted on 28/3/20

comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 41 minutes ago

Can someone explain the morality of voiding a season over delaying the end of one?


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It's the idea that in order to finish the existing one the games will take place before the next season is due to start. This leaves us with games being played in June, at which point there's still a considerable concern that the virus will still be prevalent enough to put pundue stress on the emergency services and all of the people involved in hosting a game of football for TV.

There is the suggestion, mainly from fans, that this season could be played out whenever possible, even if that's toward the end of 2020. Whilst this isn't necessarily a moral concern I think it's unattractive due to the impact it would have on the TV and sponsorship deals in place for 2020/21. The clubs will lose out on both seasons. From a fan's point of view, having a messed up season missing games and tournaments is a far bigger loss than not completing the current ones due to a situation everyone can understand and no one can control.

The suggestion in the article I posted above is that the teams are negotiating the rebate they'll have to give on those contracts now. They'll need to get that sorted and hope they can honour next season's deals. Also, that the result would be a 'replay' of the unfinished season, with all of the clubs in their current divisions.

posted on 28/3/20



Those articles don't even make sense. You should know click bait when you see it. The reasoning given for clubs to want the season cancelled doesn't even make a morsel of sense. No clubs named and no quotes or insider info, just speculation from some West Ham fans

The league will be finished and West Ham will most likely be going down. It would be better to accept this now than be crushed later when it happens without you seeing it coming.

posted on 28/3/20

There is the suggestion, mainly from fans, that this season could be played out whenever possible, even if that's toward the end of 2020. Whilst this isn't necessarily a moral concern I think it's unattractive due to the impact it would have on the TV and sponsorship deals in place for 2020/21.
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What about the TV and sponsorship deals in place for 2019/2020? Why should deals for next season take precedence over deals for this season?

Deals for next season cab be renegotiated as it hasn't started. Deals for thus season cannot.

This is exactly why this season must be concluded before another football season starts.

If they cancel it, how much will the TV companies be paying for an incomplete season? The league must deliver all the games it promised to TV companies and if they don't its a breach of contract and I don't need to explain the consequence of that.

A lot of the rationale and logic behind this debate is nonsensical and biased.

Im sorry saan but the league will resume, Liverpool will be champions and Spurs will miss out on Champions league football unfortunately.

posted on 28/3/20

Seems stupid to void the season and is a write off anyway due to the financial implications.

Just wishful thinking from fans whose clubs have been dross.

posted on 28/3/20

I mean, they want to cancel the season and replay it from scratch when possible.

Think about that for a minute. The article is drawing desperate fools to it. Why not just resume the season from where it stopped? They want to cancel it and start the season again from scratch to give themselves another chance.

That makes a lot of sense, no? Stop falling for this crap.


posted on 28/3/20

“If they want to say, ‘This season is over and it will be recommencing with the final nine games being played out in September’, fantastic. But if that’s not feasible. Just end this league with whatever consequences that has. End it and say the new league will start in September."
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posted on 28/3/20

I maybe isolated but I can smell your desperation from here

posted on 28/3/20

comment by Idontlikemondays (U6377)
posted 4 hours, 57 minutes ago
The only source appears to be David Ornstein
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Ornstein said that voiding was not an option.

posted on 28/3/20

For me, if this season can't be finished before the start of next season traditional curtain raiser the community shield then it should be null and void.

posted on 28/3/20

comment by blueisthecolour (U1528)
posted 7 minutes ago
For me, if this season can't be finished before the start of next season traditional curtain raiser the community shield then it should be null and void.
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Nah

posted on 28/3/20

comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by blueisthecolour (U1528)
posted 7 minutes ago
For me, if this season can't be finished before the start of next season traditional curtain raiser the community shield then it should be null and void.
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Nah
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Obviously you are going to say that Firmino as you have been waiting for 30 odd years to win the league title. If the season can not be finished before the traditional curtain raiser then it has to be null and void.

posted on 28/3/20

comment by blueisthecolour (U1528)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by blueisthecolour (U1528)
posted 7 minutes ago
For me, if this season can't be finished before the start of next season traditional curtain raiser the community shield then it should be null and void.
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Nah
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Obviously you are going to say that Firmino as you have been waiting for 30 odd years to win the league title. If the season can not be finished before the traditional curtain raiser then it has to be null and void.
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Nah it doesn't have to be. Doing that would create a legal minefield and I've yet to see a good reason be put forward as to why it should happen.

posted on 28/3/20

Liverpool fans (on this forum) won't have it but with every passing day the 19/20 season being declared null and void becomes more likely.

They've done it below National league level and gradually this will be brought in for the higher divisions. There are so many issues with kit manufacturers changing, loans and contracts for players coming to an end, enough of a break between seasons ......etc.

Also I think when this is over starting again will feel alot more fresh and exciting than trying to revive a dead season.

posted on 28/3/20

comment by blueisthecolour (U1528)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by blueisthecolour (U1528)
posted 7 minutes ago
For me, if this season can't be finished before the start of next season traditional curtain raiser the community shield then it should be null and void.
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Nah
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Obviously you are going to say that Firmino as you have been waiting for 30 odd years to win the league title. If the season can not be finished before the traditional curtain raiser then it has to be null and void.
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Say for example we start a new season in August. What happens if there’s another flare up of the virus, or the government have to reimpose restrictions? You’d have 75% of one season played and a few games of another.

Best to finish this season up, decide promotions/relegations/European places and league winners properly then decide what to do about the next season.

posted on 28/3/20

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
Liverpool fans (on this forum) won't have it but with every passing day the 19/20 season being declared null and void becomes more likely.

They've done it below National league level and gradually this will be brought in for the higher divisions. There are so many issues with kit manufacturers changing, loans and contracts for players coming to an end, enough of a break between seasons ......etc.

Also I think when this is over starting again will feel alot more fresh and exciting than trying to revive a dead season.
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They're not really issues though. It will not take long to finish off the season.

posted on 28/3/20

comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by blueisthecolour (U1528)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by blueisthecolour (U1528)
posted 7 minutes ago
For me, if this season can't be finished before the start of next season traditional curtain raiser the community shield then it should be null and void.
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Nah
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Obviously you are going to say that Firmino as you have been waiting for 30 odd years to win the league title. If the season can not be finished before the traditional curtain raiser then it has to be null and void.
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Say for example we start a new season in August. What happens if there’s another flare up of the virus, or the government have to reimpose restrictions? You’d have 75% of one season played and a few games of another.

Best to finish this season up, decide promotions/relegations/European places and league winners properly then decide what to do about the next season.
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Yep

posted on 28/3/20

comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by blueisthecolour (U1528)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by blueisthecolour (U1528)
posted 7 minutes ago
For me, if this season can't be finished before the start of next season traditional curtain raiser the community shield then it should be null and void.
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Nah
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Obviously you are going to say that Firmino as you have been waiting for 30 odd years to win the league title. If the season can not be finished before the traditional curtain raiser then it has to be null and void.
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Nah it doesn't have to be. Doing that would create a legal minefield and I've yet to see a good reason be put forward as to why it should happen.
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How will it create a legal minefield? The FA and Premier league will win hands down by just showing that is the traditional start date. No court of law would even contemplate taking it on, because the FA / Premier league have all the power.

posted on 28/3/20

It would be FAR more of a legal minefield to void the season. No question.

posted on 28/3/20

comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by blueisthecolour (U1528)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by blueisthecolour (U1528)
posted 7 minutes ago
For me, if this season can't be finished before the start of next season traditional curtain raiser the community shield then it should be null and void.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nah
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Obviously you are going to say that Firmino as you have been waiting for 30 odd years to win the league title. If the season can not be finished before the traditional curtain raiser then it has to be null and void.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Say for example we start a new season in August. What happens if there’s another flare up of the virus, or the government have to reimpose restrictions? You’d have 75% of one season played and a few games of another.

Best to finish this season up, decide promotions/relegations/European places and league winners properly then decide what to do about the next season.
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This is the thing, no one knows where we are with this thing.

The PL’s stance of an indefinite suspension is sensible.

posted on 28/3/20

comment by blueisthecolour (U1528)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by blueisthecolour (U1528)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by blueisthecolour (U1528)
posted 7 minutes ago
For me, if this season can't be finished before the start of next season traditional curtain raiser the community shield then it should be null and void.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nah
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Obviously you are going to say that Firmino as you have been waiting for 30 odd years to win the league title. If the season can not be finished before the traditional curtain raiser then it has to be null and void.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nah it doesn't have to be. Doing that would create a legal minefield and I've yet to see a good reason be put forward as to why it should happen.
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How will it create a legal minefield? The FA and Premier league will win hands down by just showing that is the traditional start date. No court of law would even contemplate taking it on, because the FA / Premier league have all the power.
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It may be the traditional start date but this is a global pandemic, tradition may just have to take a back seat. Plus even if this season is voided, what if next season can't begin on the traditional start date anyway?

posted on 28/3/20

comment by Prankster - Dr Pu$$y (U22336)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by blueisthecolour (U1528)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by blueisthecolour (U1528)
posted 7 minutes ago
For me, if this season can't be finished before the start of next season traditional curtain raiser the community shield then it should be null and void.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nah
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Obviously you are going to say that Firmino as you have been waiting for 30 odd years to win the league title. If the season can not be finished before the traditional curtain raiser then it has to be null and void.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Say for example we start a new season in August. What happens if there’s another flare up of the virus, or the government have to reimpose restrictions? You’d have 75% of one season played and a few games of another.

Best to finish this season up, decide promotions/relegations/European places and league winners properly then decide what to do about the next season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the thing, no one knows where we are with this thing.

The PL’s stance of an indefinite suspension is sensible.
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Yep, it's the only way that makes sense.

posted on 28/3/20

comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by Idontlikemondays (U6377)
posted 4 hours, 57 minutes ago
The only source appears to be David Ornstein
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Ornstein said that voiding was not an option.
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Maybe at the time but sorry Ornstein is pretty reputable. He’s the go to ITK for Arsenal fans. I’m guessing Arsenal are one of the clubs who would want the season voided and maybe they have told him that other clubs are coming around to the idea of it.

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