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posted on 1/4/20

He doesn't play in midfield for Villa though

posted on 1/4/20

comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 55 minutes ago
He doesn't play in midfield for Villa though
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This. This. And this.

He just doesn't fit at United as we stand and as he plays.

posted on 1/4/20

comment by The_Red_Cognoscente (U9741)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 55 minutes ago
He doesn't play in midfield for Villa though
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This. This. And this.

He just doesn't fit at United as we stand and as he plays.
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Also he will cost you most likely minimum 80 million

posted on 1/4/20

Where does he play for Villa? When I’ve seen them he seems to have a pretty fluid free role, much like what Fernandes settled into in our last few games.

posted on 1/4/20

comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 13 minutes ago
Where does he play for Villa? When I’ve seen them he seems to have a pretty fluid free role, much like what Fernandes settled into in our last few games.
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posted on 1/4/20

comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 13 minutes ago
Where does he play for Villa? When I’ve seen them he seems to have a pretty fluid free role, much like what Fernandes settled into in our last few games.
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Great work Rosso!

posted on 1/4/20

There’s a heat map here Lambeau:

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/jack-grealish.452538/page-31#lg=_xfUid-1-1585738297&slide=0

Apparently he plays on the left or at ten in the 4-2-3-1, or on the left in the 3-4-3.

Like Pogba, he seems to like the half space in off the LHS. (And like Pogba, if he joins he’ll be disappointed, because he won’t be playing there )

With Ole in charge, I only see him playing on the left of the 4-2-3-1 or providing Bruno with competition at number ten.

posted on 1/4/20

comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 13 minutes ago
Where does he play for Villa? When I’ve seen them he seems to have a pretty fluid free role, much like what Fernandes settled into in our last few games.
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Great work Rosso!
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posted on 1/4/20

If we hadn't got Bruno then he would have been a "maybe"?

But it's actual central midfielders I feel are needed and Maddison kinda fits that position better than Jack, better still break the bank for Verratti from PSG, maybe dreaming a tad there but right now all I'm doing is dreaming about football

posted on 1/4/20

comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 13 minutes ago
Where does he play for Villa? When I’ve seen them he seems to have a pretty fluid free role, much like what Fernandes settled into in our last few games.
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Great work Rosso!
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posted on 1/4/20

Exactly the player we need if we get him. Not United standard and would cause disruption if we don't get him. I have never seen him play.

posted on 1/4/20

comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 13 minutes ago
Where does he play for Villa? When I’ve seen them he seems to have a pretty fluid free role, much like what Fernandes settled into in our last few games.
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Great work Rosso!
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Quite a few deaths in Wales hope all is good?

posted on 1/4/20

comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 27 minutes ago
There’s a heat map here Lambeau:

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/jack-grealish.452538/page-31#lg=_xfUid-1-1585738297&slide=0

Apparently he plays on the left or at ten in the 4-2-3-1, or on the left in the 3-4-3.

Like Pogba, he seems to like the half space in off the LHS. (And like Pogba, if he joins he’ll be disappointed, because he won’t be playing there)

With Ole in charge, I only see him playing on the left of the 4-2-3-1 or providing Bruno with competition at number ten.
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Maybe Ole intends to play a Diamond then and the Sancho link is all rubbish.

———McT/Fred
Fernandes—Pogba
———-Grealish

posted on 1/4/20

We like improving the midfield without actually improving the midfield.

posted on 1/4/20

comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 13 minutes ago
Where does he play for Villa? When I’ve seen them he seems to have a pretty fluid free role, much like what Fernandes settled into in our last few games.
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Great work Rosso!
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Quite a few deaths in Wales hope all is good?
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Not wanting to say I'm happy that other areas are badly affected but in Snowdonia, where I live, the health board reports that the cases are pretty low compared to the rest of the country.

Hope all is good with you.

posted on 1/4/20

comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 41 minutes ago
We like improving the midfield without actually improving the midfield.
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This

posted on 1/4/20

comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 27 minutes ago
There’s a heat map here Lambeau:

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/jack-grealish.452538/page-31#lg=_xfUid-1-1585738297&slide=0

Apparently he plays on the left or at ten in the 4-2-3-1, or on the left in the 3-4-3.

Like Pogba, he seems to like the half space in off the LHS. (And like Pogba, if he joins he’ll be disappointed, because he won’t be playing there)

With Ole in charge, I only see him playing on the left of the 4-2-3-1 or providing Bruno with competition at number ten.
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Maybe Ole intends to play a Diamond then and the Sancho link is all rubbish.

———McT/Fred
Fernandes—Pogba
———-Grealish
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Maybe, or:

———Fred
McT————Grealish
———Bruno

posted on 1/4/20

comment by The_Red_Cognoscente (U9741)
posted 2 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 55 minutes ago
He doesn't play in midfield for Villa though
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This. This. And this.

He just doesn't fit at United as we stand and as he plays.
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He plays either left of a front 3 or at number 10. 2 positions that are contained in the 4-2-3-1 Ole uses. Don’t see how he doesn’t fit it.

posted on 1/4/20

comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 41 minutes ago
We like improving the midfield without actually improving the midfield.
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This
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That's complete nonsense. We went from Scholes and Carrick, to Carrick and Fletcher, to Carrick and Fellaini, to Fellaini and Shneiderlin, to Fellaini and Schweinsteiger, to Fellaini and Herrera... actually, you might be on to something...

posted on 1/4/20

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by The_Red_Cognoscente (U9741)
posted 2 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 55 minutes ago
He doesn't play in midfield for Villa though
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This. This. And this.

He just doesn't fit at United as we stand and as he plays.
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He plays either left of a front 3 or at number 10. 2 positions that are contained in the 4-2-3-1 Ole uses. Don’t see how he doesn’t fit it.
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I don’t want to put words in TRC’s mouth, but is he hinting at the fact that we already have Rashford and Bruno locked in in the positions that Grealish plays?

posted on 1/4/20

comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by The_Red_Cognoscente (U9741)
posted 2 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 55 minutes ago
He doesn't play in midfield for Villa though
----------------------------------------------------------------------

This. This. And this.

He just doesn't fit at United as we stand and as he plays.
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He plays either left of a front 3 or at number 10. 2 positions that are contained in the 4-2-3-1 Ole uses. Don’t see how he doesn’t fit it.
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I don’t want to put words in TRC’s mouth, but is he hinting at the fact that we already have Rashford and Bruno locked in in the positions that Grealish plays?
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Thanks, Rosso.

I am just lazy in elaborating further as I have done so in a few other threads on this 'Grealish to United talk'.

All the positions Grealish covers/plays best are occupied by our best players.

I think a deep-lying CM player is what we need most in midfield really. And of course, that right-sided player ( Sancho is ideal rn but is pricy).

Even if Pogba leaves, the needs are still the same though it'd make a bit more sense then to have Grealish in.

I have to state this, I like Grealish as a player. The way he strolls around the pitch, is obviously technically adept and a hard worker but as we stand right now, with the playing personnel we have and under Ole's MO, Grealish is not an ideal purchase.

posted on 1/4/20

I’m with you 100%

I’ve heard the squad depth/competition arguments, which hold *some* weight, but we’re not in the luxury position of being able to add high-quality options to bench warm until we’ve strengthened other key areas IMO.

I mean, if Grealish arrived tomorrow, would he be a guaranteed starter? And there are positions we really need to focus on, two of which you’ve mentioned. And I’d add a CB and CF before another attacking mid/left winger.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 1/4/20

I look at teams like Barca, Bayern, City, PSG and see they have competition for every position.

It may not be a priority, but an injury to any of Pogba, Rashford, Fernandes currently leaves us short.

CM we lack quality, but not quantity.

Add a versatile player like Grealish across the offensive midfield roles (yes he can play CAM/ 10 very well too), and sign Ighalo then we have options.

Maybe not a priority but still, he has a high ceiling and Pogba may well leave.

-----------Fred/Matic
--------Fernandes/Grealish/Mctominay
RW--------------------------------Rashford/Grealish
-----------------Martial/Greenwood

comment by IAmMe (U18491)

posted on 1/4/20

Choices are already great in midfield and Grealish will definitely strengthen

Selecting from Mata, Pogba (fingers crossed), Fred, Fernandez, James, Matic and or Grealish is actually quite reasonable.

Could been more adventurous if a genuine left-wing choice is added.

Seems the perennial problem of centre forward/striker is the main issue, and Maguire and Jones can't carry, season long, centre back duties on their own. Better than baillly and lindelof are musts.

posted on 1/4/20

There won't be any big money transfers this summer. Coronavirus has more or less wiped out players moving for a year or two.

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