I loved the football accy's midweek and at the weekend but i ll tell you something now, ive not missed it at all. Just think of all the money people have saved and not potential wasted. Its saved a lot of people from trouble imo.
Online betting is a problem and i'm sure its potentially a factor in sporting events looking uneasily at the exposure.
I am not sure if the posrts will be liable or of the companies will have to return bets. it would depend on terms? I dunno.
what I do know is that it must be going to look betting shops and the online companies must be exposed.
Problem is that addictive gamblers will just pour their cash into machines instead.
The weekly coupon guy will be sorely missed by them but in turn will be saving. That £20 a week is £1k a year.
But every single business will be sorely affected by this and bookmakers rank somewhere on the bottom for my concern tbh.
The big boys have very deep pockets and their directors and senior staff earn millions
Isn’t online traffic on betting games increase in this period
If anything good can come out of this catastrophe it’s that a load of bookies go out of business. It really is a blight on society. We’ll all be better off without them
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comment by Ronaldo McDonaldo 2 (U8472)
posted 6 minutes ago
If anything good can come out of this catastrophe it’s that a load of bookies go out of business. It really is a blight on society. We’ll all be better off without them
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Problem with that (and any other industry being affected) is that only the biggest and those with deepest pockets survive and then with far less competition.
I'm sure you can guess what happens after this.
maybe the only upside to the virus.
I haven`t had a bet for a month now. Probably won`t have another bet until Horse Racing and Footie returns. Just throwing money away on slot machines and Roulette Wheels is not for me.
comment by Ronaldo McDonaldo 2 (U8472)
posted 16 minutes ago
If anything good can come out of this catastrophe it’s that a load of bookies go out of business. It really is a blight on society. We’ll all be better off without them
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No different really to pubs turning punters into alcoholics. Everything in moderation is fine. Just don`t overdo it. They should though take the slot machines out of the bookies.
A lot of online bookies also do online casinos so they'll get a boost there. Also I'm sure addicts can get there fill with esports which is ongoing even with lockdown
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
comment by Ronaldo McDonaldo 2 (U8472)
posted 16 minutes ago
If anything good can come out of this catastrophe it’s that a load of bookies go out of business. It really is a blight on society. We’ll all be better off without them
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No different really to pubs turning punters into alcoholics. Everything in moderation is fine. Just don`t overdo it. They should though take the slot machines out of the bookies.
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Yeah, betting can be addictive just like alcohol but that doesn't mean to get rid of it. It can also be a hobby. A lot of people do small bets for fun and to make things more interesting, not to become rich. Amounts where losing or winning doesn't really make a difference.
People will spend £5 on a pint but the same people think placing £5 on Liverpool to score over 2.5 goals should be scrapped. You put £5 of alcohol in your system while my £5 buys me a chance to turn it into £20
https://www.racingpost.com/news/virtual-grand-national-2020-the-full-list-of-the-40-runners-riders-and-odds/430637
With all sports halted, is this the end of the betting industry as we know it?
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Not a chance. I don't think people realise how much cash these businesses are sat on.
Have a look at how much Denise Coates paid herself in salary last year then you tell me if you think they'll be struggling...
Where a lot of you have failed to make the connection is with how much of an uplift in traffic and betting activity Casino/Poker and Bingo sites have seen during this lockdown. It's incredibly really.
For every SkyBet Sportsbook there's a SkyBet Poker/Bingo/Vegas Casino raking in cash.
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Where a lot of you have failed to make the connection is with how much of an uplift in traffic and betting activity Casino/Poker and Bingo sites have seen during this lockdown. It's incredibly really.
For every SkyBet Sportsbook there's a SkyBet Poker/Bingo/Vegas Casino raking in cash.
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thats a good point. the onlines will harvest no matter what i suppose.
the shops may never reopen if the onlines get their way.
We really should have stringent regulation of betting and advertising
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Where a lot of you have failed to make the connection is with how much of an uplift in traffic and betting activity Casino/Poker and Bingo sites have seen during this lockdown. It's incredibly really.
For every SkyBet Sportsbook there's a SkyBet Poker/Bingo/Vegas Casino raking in cash.
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thats a good point. the onlines will harvest no matter what i suppose.
the shops may never reopen if the onlines get their way.
We really should have stringent regulation of betting and advertising
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Personally I think the bookies got it wrong with the self-imposed RGA code where they all agreed on whistle to whistle ban on betting advertising in Live sport, then post 2100 elsewhere. Would've made more sense had they limited themselves to live sport ONLY - people expect to see bookies ads around sport. I'd rather see the latest odds during the HT break of a game than around some entertainment content of Wednesday evening.
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 5 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Where a lot of you have failed to make the connection is with how much of an uplift in traffic and betting activity Casino/Poker and Bingo sites have seen during this lockdown. It's incredibly really.
For every SkyBet Sportsbook there's a SkyBet Poker/Bingo/Vegas Casino raking in cash.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
thats a good point. the onlines will harvest no matter what i suppose.
the shops may never reopen if the onlines get their way.
We really should have stringent regulation of betting and advertising
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Personally I think the bookies got it wrong with the self-imposed RGA code where they all agreed on whistle to whistle ban on betting advertising in Live sport, then post 2100 elsewhere. Would've made more sense had they limited themselves to live sport ONLY - people expect to see bookies ads around sport. I'd rather see the latest odds during the HT break of a game than around some entertainment content of Wednesday evening.
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I dont agree.
my view is the authorities should be looking after kids and outright 100% banning advertising of gambling at all sports just like smoking.
one will kill you, the other will ruin your life both are addictions.
I for one can remember when they were not well to wall and just cos it crept in doesn't make it right.
if you or whoever wants odds let their online app pop them up.
half time is for tactics, and eating and refilling the bevvies..
I just really feel strong about kids and gambling.
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 7 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
comment by Ronaldo McDonaldo 2 (U8472)
posted 16 minutes ago
If anything good can come out of this catastrophe it’s that a load of bookies go out of business. It really is a blight on society. We’ll all be better off without them
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No different really to pubs turning punters into alcoholics. Everything in moderation is fine. Just don`t overdo it. They should though take the slot machines out of the bookies.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, betting can be addictive just like alcohol but that doesn't mean to get rid of it. It can also be a hobby. A lot of people do small bets for fun and to make things more interesting, not to become rich. Amounts where losing or winning doesn't really make a difference.
People will spend £5 on a pint but the same people think placing £5 on Liverpool to score over 2.5 goals should be scrapped. You put £5 of alcohol in your system while my £5 buys me a chance to turn it into £20
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which is fine. but in the same way we dont allow alcohol ads in certain shows etc and have banned cigarette ads we really dont need wall to wall betting ads with a blaise when the fun stops stop muck at the end.
if it's now "normal" then job done for the harvesters. we cannot allow that to be the case for kids.
Oh its definitely normal. Alcohol companies are making a killing too, and alcohol is normal.
Also, what is this about the kids? Who is we? You do love a high horse, don't you? Don't be too preachy as its likely you have a vice too. The best thing you can do is to teach kids how to control stuff like gambling and alcohol, how to be responsible. If you think stopping then from seeing ads at certain times of the day will solve the problem then good on you. To me its nonsense.
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 7 hours, 47 minutes ago
Oh its definitely normal. Alcohol companies are making a killing too, and alcohol is normal.
Also, what is this about the kids? Who is we? You do love a high horse, don't you? Don't be too preachy as its likely you have a vice too. The best thing you can do is to teach kids how to control stuff like gambling and alcohol, how to be responsible. If you think stopping then from seeing ads at certain times of the day will solve the problem then good on you. To me its nonsense.
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make 2 comments and it's full on high horde type response.
clearly struck a nerve here.
High horde type response?
Don't be a snowflake, there's nothing too out of place about that comment. After preaching to provoke a response, I guess step 2 is to start playing the victim of an imagined "high horde response", whatever that is.
Sorry more, but I disagree. I feel strongly that personal responsibility should be taken for managing addiction. The politicians have sold gambling regulations to people for cheap clout, because its a much safer win than telling people to take responsibility. In much the same way they’re looking to come down hard on HFSS advertising, it’s safer to blame the companies than say to parents your fat diabetic kid is down to your laziness and taking him to McDonalds five days a week, not McDonalds ads on TV.
You can see through the hypocrisy of it all when you look at how unregulated the online spaces is versus TV, despite anecodatal and quantitative information suggesting that kids spend far more time online (YouTube etc.) than on TV.
Gambling regulation on TV is smoke and mirrors. It’s an easy political victory because TV is already so heavily regulated.
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
High horde type response?
Don't be a snowflake, there's nothing too out of place about that comment. After preaching to provoke a response, I guess step 2 is to start playing the victim of an imagined "high horde response", whatever that is.
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yea yeah yeah.
all you got is a spelling mistake come back.
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 32 minutes ago
Sorry more, but I disagree. I feel strongly that personal responsibility should be taken for managing addiction. The politicians have sold gambling regulations to people for cheap clout, because its a much safer win than telling people to take responsibility. In much the same way they’re looking to come down hard on HFSS advertising, it’s safer to blame the companies than say to parents your fat diabetic kid is down to your laziness and taking him to McDonalds five days a week, not McDonalds ads on TV.
You can see through the hypocrisy of it all when you look at how unregulated the online spaces is versus TV, despite anecodatal and quantitative information suggesting that kids spend far more time online (YouTube etc.) than on TV.
Gambling regulation on TV is smoke and mirrors. It’s an easy political victory because TV is already so heavily regulated.
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yet the evidence does exist that tax and regulation does reduce smoking.
and hmmm mcdonalds is allowed advertise like mad on tv too.
seems to me the free for all attitude doesn't actually work. There's examples everywhere of this but hey no problem. Its not like i actually told you guys you need to stop betting.
But quite the reaction. Its telling.
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posted on 3/4/20
I loved the football accy's midweek and at the weekend but i ll tell you something now, ive not missed it at all. Just think of all the money people have saved and not potential wasted. Its saved a lot of people from trouble imo.
posted on 3/4/20
Online betting is a problem and i'm sure its potentially a factor in sporting events looking uneasily at the exposure.
I am not sure if the posrts will be liable or of the companies will have to return bets. it would depend on terms? I dunno.
what I do know is that it must be going to look betting shops and the online companies must be exposed.
posted on 3/4/20
Problem is that addictive gamblers will just pour their cash into machines instead.
The weekly coupon guy will be sorely missed by them but in turn will be saving. That £20 a week is £1k a year.
But every single business will be sorely affected by this and bookmakers rank somewhere on the bottom for my concern tbh.
The big boys have very deep pockets and their directors and senior staff earn millions
posted on 3/4/20
Isn’t online traffic on betting games increase in this period
posted on 3/4/20
If anything good can come out of this catastrophe it’s that a load of bookies go out of business. It really is a blight on society. We’ll all be better off without them
posted on 3/4/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 3/4/20
comment by Ronaldo McDonaldo 2 (U8472)
posted 6 minutes ago
If anything good can come out of this catastrophe it’s that a load of bookies go out of business. It really is a blight on society. We’ll all be better off without them
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Problem with that (and any other industry being affected) is that only the biggest and those with deepest pockets survive and then with far less competition.
I'm sure you can guess what happens after this.
posted on 3/4/20
maybe the only upside to the virus.
posted on 3/4/20
I haven`t had a bet for a month now. Probably won`t have another bet until Horse Racing and Footie returns. Just throwing money away on slot machines and Roulette Wheels is not for me.
posted on 3/4/20
comment by Ronaldo McDonaldo 2 (U8472)
posted 16 minutes ago
If anything good can come out of this catastrophe it’s that a load of bookies go out of business. It really is a blight on society. We’ll all be better off without them
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No different really to pubs turning punters into alcoholics. Everything in moderation is fine. Just don`t overdo it. They should though take the slot machines out of the bookies.
posted on 3/4/20
A lot of online bookies also do online casinos so they'll get a boost there. Also I'm sure addicts can get there fill with esports which is ongoing even with lockdown
posted on 3/4/20
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
comment by Ronaldo McDonaldo 2 (U8472)
posted 16 minutes ago
If anything good can come out of this catastrophe it’s that a load of bookies go out of business. It really is a blight on society. We’ll all be better off without them
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No different really to pubs turning punters into alcoholics. Everything in moderation is fine. Just don`t overdo it. They should though take the slot machines out of the bookies.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, betting can be addictive just like alcohol but that doesn't mean to get rid of it. It can also be a hobby. A lot of people do small bets for fun and to make things more interesting, not to become rich. Amounts where losing or winning doesn't really make a difference.
People will spend £5 on a pint but the same people think placing £5 on Liverpool to score over 2.5 goals should be scrapped. You put £5 of alcohol in your system while my £5 buys me a chance to turn it into £20
posted on 3/4/20
https://www.racingpost.com/news/virtual-grand-national-2020-the-full-list-of-the-40-runners-riders-and-odds/430637
posted on 3/4/20
With all sports halted, is this the end of the betting industry as we know it?
-
Not a chance. I don't think people realise how much cash these businesses are sat on.
Have a look at how much Denise Coates paid herself in salary last year then you tell me if you think they'll be struggling...
posted on 3/4/20
Where a lot of you have failed to make the connection is with how much of an uplift in traffic and betting activity Casino/Poker and Bingo sites have seen during this lockdown. It's incredibly really.
For every SkyBet Sportsbook there's a SkyBet Poker/Bingo/Vegas Casino raking in cash.
posted on 3/4/20
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Where a lot of you have failed to make the connection is with how much of an uplift in traffic and betting activity Casino/Poker and Bingo sites have seen during this lockdown. It's incredibly really.
For every SkyBet Sportsbook there's a SkyBet Poker/Bingo/Vegas Casino raking in cash.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
thats a good point. the onlines will harvest no matter what i suppose.
the shops may never reopen if the onlines get their way.
We really should have stringent regulation of betting and advertising
posted on 3/4/20
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Where a lot of you have failed to make the connection is with how much of an uplift in traffic and betting activity Casino/Poker and Bingo sites have seen during this lockdown. It's incredibly really.
For every SkyBet Sportsbook there's a SkyBet Poker/Bingo/Vegas Casino raking in cash.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
thats a good point. the onlines will harvest no matter what i suppose.
the shops may never reopen if the onlines get their way.
We really should have stringent regulation of betting and advertising
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Personally I think the bookies got it wrong with the self-imposed RGA code where they all agreed on whistle to whistle ban on betting advertising in Live sport, then post 2100 elsewhere. Would've made more sense had they limited themselves to live sport ONLY - people expect to see bookies ads around sport. I'd rather see the latest odds during the HT break of a game than around some entertainment content of Wednesday evening.
posted on 3/4/20
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 5 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Where a lot of you have failed to make the connection is with how much of an uplift in traffic and betting activity Casino/Poker and Bingo sites have seen during this lockdown. It's incredibly really.
For every SkyBet Sportsbook there's a SkyBet Poker/Bingo/Vegas Casino raking in cash.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
thats a good point. the onlines will harvest no matter what i suppose.
the shops may never reopen if the onlines get their way.
We really should have stringent regulation of betting and advertising
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Personally I think the bookies got it wrong with the self-imposed RGA code where they all agreed on whistle to whistle ban on betting advertising in Live sport, then post 2100 elsewhere. Would've made more sense had they limited themselves to live sport ONLY - people expect to see bookies ads around sport. I'd rather see the latest odds during the HT break of a game than around some entertainment content of Wednesday evening.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I dont agree.
my view is the authorities should be looking after kids and outright 100% banning advertising of gambling at all sports just like smoking.
one will kill you, the other will ruin your life both are addictions.
I for one can remember when they were not well to wall and just cos it crept in doesn't make it right.
if you or whoever wants odds let their online app pop them up.
half time is for tactics, and eating and refilling the bevvies..
I just really feel strong about kids and gambling.
posted on 3/4/20
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 7 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
comment by Ronaldo McDonaldo 2 (U8472)
posted 16 minutes ago
If anything good can come out of this catastrophe it’s that a load of bookies go out of business. It really is a blight on society. We’ll all be better off without them
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No different really to pubs turning punters into alcoholics. Everything in moderation is fine. Just don`t overdo it. They should though take the slot machines out of the bookies.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, betting can be addictive just like alcohol but that doesn't mean to get rid of it. It can also be a hobby. A lot of people do small bets for fun and to make things more interesting, not to become rich. Amounts where losing or winning doesn't really make a difference.
People will spend £5 on a pint but the same people think placing £5 on Liverpool to score over 2.5 goals should be scrapped. You put £5 of alcohol in your system while my £5 buys me a chance to turn it into £20
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which is fine. but in the same way we dont allow alcohol ads in certain shows etc and have banned cigarette ads we really dont need wall to wall betting ads with a blaise when the fun stops stop muck at the end.
if it's now "normal" then job done for the harvesters. we cannot allow that to be the case for kids.
posted on 4/4/20
Oh its definitely normal. Alcohol companies are making a killing too, and alcohol is normal.
Also, what is this about the kids? Who is we? You do love a high horse, don't you? Don't be too preachy as its likely you have a vice too. The best thing you can do is to teach kids how to control stuff like gambling and alcohol, how to be responsible. If you think stopping then from seeing ads at certain times of the day will solve the problem then good on you. To me its nonsense.
posted on 4/4/20
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 7 hours, 47 minutes ago
Oh its definitely normal. Alcohol companies are making a killing too, and alcohol is normal.
Also, what is this about the kids? Who is we? You do love a high horse, don't you? Don't be too preachy as its likely you have a vice too. The best thing you can do is to teach kids how to control stuff like gambling and alcohol, how to be responsible. If you think stopping then from seeing ads at certain times of the day will solve the problem then good on you. To me its nonsense.
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make 2 comments and it's full on high horde type response.
clearly struck a nerve here.
posted on 4/4/20
High horde type response?
Don't be a snowflake, there's nothing too out of place about that comment. After preaching to provoke a response, I guess step 2 is to start playing the victim of an imagined "high horde response", whatever that is.
posted on 4/4/20
Sorry more, but I disagree. I feel strongly that personal responsibility should be taken for managing addiction. The politicians have sold gambling regulations to people for cheap clout, because its a much safer win than telling people to take responsibility. In much the same way they’re looking to come down hard on HFSS advertising, it’s safer to blame the companies than say to parents your fat diabetic kid is down to your laziness and taking him to McDonalds five days a week, not McDonalds ads on TV.
You can see through the hypocrisy of it all when you look at how unregulated the online spaces is versus TV, despite anecodatal and quantitative information suggesting that kids spend far more time online (YouTube etc.) than on TV.
Gambling regulation on TV is smoke and mirrors. It’s an easy political victory because TV is already so heavily regulated.
posted on 4/4/20
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
High horde type response?
Don't be a snowflake, there's nothing too out of place about that comment. After preaching to provoke a response, I guess step 2 is to start playing the victim of an imagined "high horde response", whatever that is.
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yea yeah yeah.
all you got is a spelling mistake come back.
posted on 4/4/20
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 32 minutes ago
Sorry more, but I disagree. I feel strongly that personal responsibility should be taken for managing addiction. The politicians have sold gambling regulations to people for cheap clout, because its a much safer win than telling people to take responsibility. In much the same way they’re looking to come down hard on HFSS advertising, it’s safer to blame the companies than say to parents your fat diabetic kid is down to your laziness and taking him to McDonalds five days a week, not McDonalds ads on TV.
You can see through the hypocrisy of it all when you look at how unregulated the online spaces is versus TV, despite anecodatal and quantitative information suggesting that kids spend far more time online (YouTube etc.) than on TV.
Gambling regulation on TV is smoke and mirrors. It’s an easy political victory because TV is already so heavily regulated.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yet the evidence does exist that tax and regulation does reduce smoking.
and hmmm mcdonalds is allowed advertise like mad on tv too.
seems to me the free for all attitude doesn't actually work. There's examples everywhere of this but hey no problem. Its not like i actually told you guys you need to stop betting.
But quite the reaction. Its telling.
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