comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 9 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 11 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
In my job, if you have three periods of absence within 6 months, you get a warning.
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Even if completely legitimate?
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Yes mate. It's ridiculous.
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That’s not “ridiculous” in any shape or form!
If you are paid in full during your absence then I can totally see where your company is coming from!
They have to have some sort of control over absence through illness, otherwise you’d be getting people taking the piiiss, the company that I work for also have controls in place for absence and one of the reasons it’s done is to make sure we keep our sickness scheme going to ensure you get paid your full wage and not statutory sick pay when absent.
Few years back I snapped my ankle and over a 5 year period I had 4 operations in which I was probably off work for a total of 3 years, I did have one or two phased returns in between the operations but I never lost a penny due to having the sick scheme.
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You completely missed the point
But why six feet? It's hard to fathom!
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
But why six feet? It's hard to fathom!
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Because droplets in sneeze in general doesnt travel past 6 feet
https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-six-feet-enough-social-distancing.html
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 2 hours, 34 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 9 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 11 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
In my job, if you have three periods of absence within 6 months, you get a warning.
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Even if completely legitimate?
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Yes mate. It's ridiculous.
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That’s not “ridiculous” in any shape or form!
If you are paid in full during your absence then I can totally see where your company is coming from!
They have to have some sort of control over absence through illness, otherwise you’d be getting people taking the piiiss, the company that I work for also have controls in place for absence and one of the reasons it’s done is to make sure we keep our sickness scheme going to ensure you get paid your full wage and not statutory sick pay when absent.
Few years back I snapped my ankle and over a 5 year period I had 4 operations in which I was probably off work for a total of 3 years, I did have one or two phased returns in between the operations but I never lost a penny due to having the sick scheme.
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You completely missed the point
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Did I?
Enlighten me
Someone has already used the phrase 'You missed the point'. Six feet is a fathom.
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 9 hours, 30 minutes ago
Someone has already used the phrase 'You missed the point'. Six feet is a fathom.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- To think he said I “missed the point” and he couldn’t “fathom” that one out! π€£π€£
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 9 hours, 30 minutes ago
Someone has already used the phrase 'You missed the point'. Six feet is a fathom.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- To think he said I “missed the point” and he couldn’t “fathom” that one out! π€£π€£
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You do I realise I am Dutch and that English is not my first language? English is my second language. On top of that I speak Spanish and German. I also used to speak French and Yugoslavian but forgot due to not speaking it regularly.
You really are comparable to Trump supporters
yugoslavian
you mean southern slavic languages like serbo-croat, slovenian and macedonian...which are all mutually intelligible
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 9 hours, 30 minutes ago
Someone has already used the phrase 'You missed the point'. Six feet is a fathom.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- To think he said I “missed the point” and he couldn’t “fathom” that one out! π€£π€£
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You do I realise I am Dutch and that English is not my first language? English is my second language. On top of that I speak Spanish and German. I also used to speak French and Yugoslavian but forgot due to not speaking it regularly.
You really are comparable to Trump supporters
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Wow! Someone’s a tad touchy!
I’m still waiting for you to explain where I “missed the point”!
Or did you miss my point and now blaming it on your lack of understanding of the English language?
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 14 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 7 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 11 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
In my job, if you have three periods of absence within 6 months, you get a warning.
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Even if completely legitimate?
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Yes mate. It's ridiculous.
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That’s not “ridiculous” in any shape or form!
If you are paid in full during your absence then I can totally see where your company is coming from!
They have to have some sort of control over absence through illness, otherwise you’d be getting people taking the piiiss, the company that I work for also have controls in place for absence and one of the reasons it’s done is to make sure we keep our sickness scheme going to ensure you get paid your full wage and not statutory sick pay when absent.
Few years back I snapped my ankle and over a 5 year period I had 4 operations in which I was probably off work for a total of 3 years, I did have one or two phased returns in between the operations but I never lost a penny due to having the sick scheme.
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The people who get warnings only get statutory sick pay as they are hourly paid.
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Im on an hourly rate!
My company pay 6 mths full pay and a further weeks full pay for every year you’ve worked there, then you drop down to 75%
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Mine don't, otherwise people would be off left, right and centre.
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Ok mate, guess I’m one of the lucky ones, we do have some that take the piiiss, however the bad ones are now getting taken off the sick scheme for a year.
I’m really lucky to work for a decent company, the vulnerable workers have been told to have 3mths off on full pay.
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Yes that's a good scheme and if implemented it would likely result in less sick days on average and a net gain, in terms of profit.
comment by peks..#masks4all (U6618)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
yugoslavian
you mean southern slavic languages like serbo-croat, slovenian and macedonian...which are all mutually intelligible
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Yes, I said Yugoslavian because I spoke Bosnian and Croat and just to simplify things I said Yugoslavian. I served 2 x 6 months in Bosnia and 6 months in Croatia, so I know the history of the country and its split up quite well.
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 9 hours, 30 minutes ago
Someone has already used the phrase 'You missed the point'. Six feet is a fathom.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- To think he said I “missed the point” and he couldn’t “fathom” that one out! π€£π€£
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You do I realise I am Dutch and that English is not my first language? English is my second language. On top of that I speak Spanish and German. I also used to speak French and Yugoslavian but forgot due to not speaking it regularly.
You really are comparable to Trump supporters
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Wow! Someone’s a tad touchy!
I’m still waiting for you to explain where I “missed the point”!
Or did you miss my point and now blaming it on your lack of understanding of the English language?
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No one said the policy of a warning after 3 absences in 6 months is ridiculous. We were arguing that if those are genuine absences, its ridiculous to get a warning. Which you disagreed with and then go on to make a point which actually is in line with what we were saying. That the policy is to prevent people taking the piiiiss. And I understand you got to call in sick for 3 out of 5 years without getting a warning.
Which is the point we were making. So you missed the point completely. You disagreed and then agreed with the argument in one comment.
And mocking people over command of a second language is facking hilarius if you cannot even speak/write perfect English as a native speaker.
But on the bright side this Coronavrus isn't as bad as the Fantavirus of '76 or the Tangovirus of '84. Similar symptoms but they turned your skin bright orange as well.
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 9 hours, 30 minutes ago
Someone has already used the phrase 'You missed the point'. Six feet is a fathom.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- To think he said I “missed the point” and he couldn’t “fathom” that one out! π€£π€£
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You do I realise I am Dutch and that English is not my first language? English is my second language. On top of that I speak Spanish and German. I also used to speak French and Yugoslavian but forgot due to not speaking it regularly.
You really are comparable to Trump supporters
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow! Someone’s a tad touchy!
I’m still waiting for you to explain where I “missed the point”!
Or did you miss my point and now blaming it on your lack of understanding of the English language?
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No one said the policy of a warning after 3 absences in 6 months is ridiculous. We were arguing that if those are genuine absences, its ridiculous to get a warning. Which you disagreed with and then go on to make a point which actually is in line with what we were saying. That the policy is to prevent people taking the piiiiss. And I understand you got to call in sick for 3 out of 5 years without getting a warning.
Which is the point we were making. So you missed the point completely. You disagreed and then agreed with the argument in one comment.
And mocking people over command of a second language is facking hilarius if you cannot even speak/write perfect English as a native speaker.
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You really are struggling with this!
Genuine or not 3 spells of absence in 6 months should lead to a review of someones timekeeping!
When you say genuine illness what do you class as genuine? Hopefully not a common cold?
I am really not struggling with anything, if you don't get my point, then you are a serial point misser.
En nu ben ik klaar met je. Dikke doei, ik heb geen zin om nog langer met mongolen te converseren. Je kan lekker in je eigen sop gaar koken.
Handoek.
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 37 minutes ago
I am really not struggling with anything, if you don't get my point, then you are a serial point misser.
En nu ben ik klaar met je. Dikke doei, ik heb geen zin om nog langer met mongolen te converseren. Je kan lekker in je eigen sop gaar koken.
Handoek.
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“And now I'm done with you. Goodbye, I don't feel like conversing with mongols any longer.”
So you’re not “struggling with anything” and yet instead of answering a simple question you choose to runaway.
All I want you to do, is define genuine sickness which you would have to call in sick for!
You seem to be “struggling” with that!
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 4 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 9 hours, 30 minutes ago
Someone has already used the phrase 'You missed the point'. Six feet is a fathom.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- To think he said I “missed the point” and he couldn’t “fathom” that one out! π€£π€£
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You do I realise I am Dutch and that English is not my first language? English is my second language. On top of that I speak Spanish and German. I also used to speak French and Yugoslavian but forgot due to not speaking it regularly.
You really are comparable to Trump supporters
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow! Someone’s a tad touchy!
I’m still waiting for you to explain where I “missed the point”!
Or did you miss my point and now blaming it on your lack of understanding of the English language?
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No one said the policy of a warning after 3 absences in 6 months is ridiculous. We were arguing that if those are genuine absences, its ridiculous to get a warning. Which you disagreed with and then go on to make a point which actually is in line with what we were saying. That the policy is to prevent people taking the piiiiss. And I understand you got to call in sick for 3 out of 5 years without getting a warning.
Which is the point we were making. So you missed the point completely. You disagreed and then agreed with the argument in one comment.
And mocking people over command of a second language is facking hilarius if you cannot even speak/write perfect English as a native speaker.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You really are struggling with this!
Genuine or not 3 spells of absence in 6 months should lead to a review of someones timekeeping!
When you say genuine illness what do you class as genuine? Hopefully not a common cold?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So say you had flu, the vomiting and diarrhoea due to food poisoning and then had to stay off to look after your partner/child, you think that it is normal to receive a warning? That's how it works in my place.
I don't think it is right one bit. Especially for hourly paid workers who have to take a hit on their wages, as well as the warning, for something beyond their control.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 4 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 9 hours, 30 minutes ago
Someone has already used the phrase 'You missed the point'. Six feet is a fathom.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- To think he said I “missed the point” and he couldn’t “fathom” that one out! π€£π€£
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You do I realise I am Dutch and that English is not my first language? English is my second language. On top of that I speak Spanish and German. I also used to speak French and Yugoslavian but forgot due to not speaking it regularly.
You really are comparable to Trump supporters
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow! Someone’s a tad touchy!
I’m still waiting for you to explain where I “missed the point”!
Or did you miss my point and now blaming it on your lack of understanding of the English language?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No one said the policy of a warning after 3 absences in 6 months is ridiculous. We were arguing that if those are genuine absences, its ridiculous to get a warning. Which you disagreed with and then go on to make a point which actually is in line with what we were saying. That the policy is to prevent people taking the piiiiss. And I understand you got to call in sick for 3 out of 5 years without getting a warning.
Which is the point we were making. So you missed the point completely. You disagreed and then agreed with the argument in one comment.
And mocking people over command of a second language is facking hilarius if you cannot even speak/write perfect English as a native speaker.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You really are struggling with this!
Genuine or not 3 spells of absence in 6 months should lead to a review of someones timekeeping!
When you say genuine illness what do you class as genuine? Hopefully not a common cold?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So say you had flu, the vomiting and diarrhoea due to food poisoning and then had to stay off to look after your partner/child, you think that it is normal to receive a warning? That's how it works in my place.
I don't think it is right one bit. Especially for hourly paid workers who have to take a hit on their wages, as well as the warning, for something beyond their control.
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I work for one of the world’s leading food manufacturers, so something like sicknesses and diarrhoea you would be off 3 or 4 days whilst you had it then a further 48 hrs to ensure you’re clear, this would fall under the 7 day self certification on full pay, then if I had to stay off to look after my partner I’d be encouraged to use some holiday leave.
Like I’ve said people do try it on and unfortunately with the 7 day self certification this is open to abuse hence why you have to some sort of controls, whether it be a warning or suspended from the sick scheme, personally I’d rather they handed out warnings and suspensions than loose the scheme of which I benefited from greatly during the issues I had after snapping my ankle.
With my company if someone had 3 self certified spells in 6 months they would probably have to have an attendance review, if they’ve had 3 separate issues like a couple of colds and bad back then they’ll be warned that they risk being suspended from the sick scheme if they don’t improve their attendance, but if it’s been the same issue like the old bad back they’ll be offered support through occupational health.
I really guess we’re poles apart how our companies operate, I really feel my company want to help the employees whereas yours don’t.
2 years ago we had one guy that was suffering with a bad knee he was on and off work both as self certified and on occasions with a Drs sick note, he was referred to occupational health who then involved HR, it became apparent that he needed keyhole surgery on his knee but had to wait 9 months for it, when the company weighed up the cost of paying him sick pay on and off for the 9 months plus his recuperation it worked out it would be far quicker and cheaper for them to pay privately for him to have it done, a win win for both the poor lad and the company.
Maybe I’m being a tad harsh with my opinion, but we work a 4 days on 5 days off, 5 days on 4 days off shift pattern which averages to working 14 days a month plus 28 days holiday a year and we still have people taking the piiiss putting a great sick scheme at risk.
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 4 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 9 hours, 30 minutes ago
Someone has already used the phrase 'You missed the point'. Six feet is a fathom.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- To think he said I “missed the point” and he couldn’t “fathom” that one out! π€£π€£
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You do I realise I am Dutch and that English is not my first language? English is my second language. On top of that I speak Spanish and German. I also used to speak French and Yugoslavian but forgot due to not speaking it regularly.
You really are comparable to Trump supporters
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow! Someone’s a tad touchy!
I’m still waiting for you to explain where I “missed the point”!
Or did you miss my point and now blaming it on your lack of understanding of the English language?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No one said the policy of a warning after 3 absences in 6 months is ridiculous. We were arguing that if those are genuine absences, its ridiculous to get a warning. Which you disagreed with and then go on to make a point which actually is in line with what we were saying. That the policy is to prevent people taking the piiiiss. And I understand you got to call in sick for 3 out of 5 years without getting a warning.
Which is the point we were making. So you missed the point completely. You disagreed and then agreed with the argument in one comment.
And mocking people over command of a second language is facking hilarius if you cannot even speak/write perfect English as a native speaker.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You really are struggling with this!
Genuine or not 3 spells of absence in 6 months should lead to a review of someones timekeeping!
When you say genuine illness what do you class as genuine? Hopefully not a common cold?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So say you had flu, the vomiting and diarrhoea due to food poisoning and then had to stay off to look after your partner/child, you think that it is normal to receive a warning? That's how it works in my place.
I don't think it is right one bit. Especially for hourly paid workers who have to take a hit on their wages, as well as the warning, for something beyond their control.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I work for one of the world’s leading food manufacturers, so something like sicknesses and diarrhoea you would be off 3 or 4 days whilst you had it then a further 48 hrs to ensure you’re clear, this would fall under the 7 day self certification on full pay, then if I had to stay off to look after my partner I’d be encouraged to use some holiday leave.
Like I’ve said people do try it on and unfortunately with the 7 day self certification this is open to abuse hence why you have to some sort of controls, whether it be a warning or suspended from the sick scheme, personally I’d rather they handed out warnings and suspensions than loose the scheme of which I benefited from greatly during the issues I had after snapping my ankle.
With my company if someone had 3 self certified spells in 6 months they would probably have to have an attendance review, if they’ve had 3 separate issues like a couple of colds and bad back then they’ll be warned that they risk being suspended from the sick scheme if they don’t improve their attendance, but if it’s been the same issue like the old bad back they’ll be offered support through occupational health.
I really guess we’re poles apart how our companies operate, I really feel my company want to help the employees whereas yours don’t.
2 years ago we had one guy that was suffering with a bad knee he was on and off work both as self certified and on occasions with a Drs sick note, he was referred to occupational health who then involved HR, it became apparent that he needed keyhole surgery on his knee but had to wait 9 months for it, when the company weighed up the cost of paying him sick pay on and off for the 9 months plus his recuperation it worked out it would be far quicker and cheaper for them to pay privately for him to have it done, a win win for both the poor lad and the company.
Maybe I’m being a tad harsh with my opinion, but we work a 4 days on 5 days off, 5 days on 4 days off shift pattern which averages to working 14 days a month plus 28 days holiday a year and we still have people taking the piiiss putting a great sick scheme at risk.
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Yes but we aren't talking about your job where you have a sick scheme.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 4 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 9 hours, 30 minutes ago
Someone has already used the phrase 'You missed the point'. Six feet is a fathom.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- To think he said I “missed the point” and he couldn’t “fathom” that one out! π€£π€£
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You do I realise I am Dutch and that English is not my first language? English is my second language. On top of that I speak Spanish and German. I also used to speak French and Yugoslavian but forgot due to not speaking it regularly.
You really are comparable to Trump supporters
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow! Someone’s a tad touchy!
I’m still waiting for you to explain where I “missed the point”!
Or did you miss my point and now blaming it on your lack of understanding of the English language?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No one said the policy of a warning after 3 absences in 6 months is ridiculous. We were arguing that if those are genuine absences, its ridiculous to get a warning. Which you disagreed with and then go on to make a point which actually is in line with what we were saying. That the policy is to prevent people taking the piiiiss. And I understand you got to call in sick for 3 out of 5 years without getting a warning.
Which is the point we were making. So you missed the point completely. You disagreed and then agreed with the argument in one comment.
And mocking people over command of a second language is facking hilarius if you cannot even speak/write perfect English as a native speaker.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You really are struggling with this!
Genuine or not 3 spells of absence in 6 months should lead to a review of someones timekeeping!
When you say genuine illness what do you class as genuine? Hopefully not a common cold?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So say you had flu, the vomiting and diarrhoea due to food poisoning and then had to stay off to look after your partner/child, you think that it is normal to receive a warning? That's how it works in my place.
I don't think it is right one bit. Especially for hourly paid workers who have to take a hit on their wages, as well as the warning, for something beyond their control.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I work for one of the world’s leading food manufacturers, so something like sicknesses and diarrhoea you would be off 3 or 4 days whilst you had it then a further 48 hrs to ensure you’re clear, this would fall under the 7 day self certification on full pay, then if I had to stay off to look after my partner I’d be encouraged to use some holiday leave.
Like I’ve said people do try it on and unfortunately with the 7 day self certification this is open to abuse hence why you have to some sort of controls, whether it be a warning or suspended from the sick scheme, personally I’d rather they handed out warnings and suspensions than loose the scheme of which I benefited from greatly during the issues I had after snapping my ankle.
With my company if someone had 3 self certified spells in 6 months they would probably have to have an attendance review, if they’ve had 3 separate issues like a couple of colds and bad back then they’ll be warned that they risk being suspended from the sick scheme if they don’t improve their attendance, but if it’s been the same issue like the old bad back they’ll be offered support through occupational health.
I really guess we’re poles apart how our companies operate, I really feel my company want to help the employees whereas yours don’t.
2 years ago we had one guy that was suffering with a bad knee he was on and off work both as self certified and on occasions with a Drs sick note, he was referred to occupational health who then involved HR, it became apparent that he needed keyhole surgery on his knee but had to wait 9 months for it, when the company weighed up the cost of paying him sick pay on and off for the 9 months plus his recuperation it worked out it would be far quicker and cheaper for them to pay privately for him to have it done, a win win for both the poor lad and the company.
Maybe I’m being a tad harsh with my opinion, but we work a 4 days on 5 days off, 5 days on 4 days off shift pattern which averages to working 14 days a month plus 28 days holiday a year and we still have people taking the piiiss putting a great sick scheme at risk.
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Yes but we aren't talking about your job where you have a sick scheme.
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So I can’t have an opinion?
This article has been based on people’s experiences and opinions, i shared my experiences and given my opinion!
I did say we were poles apart in how we are treated by our companies but 3 or 4 times off work in 6 months unless you have a genuine recurring illness is excessive and questions should be asked “sick scheme” or not!
If it was your company how would you treat someone being off 3 or 4 times in 6 months?
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 4 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 9 hours, 30 minutes ago
Someone has already used the phrase 'You missed the point'. Six feet is a fathom.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- To think he said I “missed the point” and he couldn’t “fathom” that one out! π€£π€£
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You do I realise I am Dutch and that English is not my first language? English is my second language. On top of that I speak Spanish and German. I also used to speak French and Yugoslavian but forgot due to not speaking it regularly.
You really are comparable to Trump supporters
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow! Someone’s a tad touchy!
I’m still waiting for you to explain where I “missed the point”!
Or did you miss my point and now blaming it on your lack of understanding of the English language?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No one said the policy of a warning after 3 absences in 6 months is ridiculous. We were arguing that if those are genuine absences, its ridiculous to get a warning. Which you disagreed with and then go on to make a point which actually is in line with what we were saying. That the policy is to prevent people taking the piiiiss. And I understand you got to call in sick for 3 out of 5 years without getting a warning.
Which is the point we were making. So you missed the point completely. You disagreed and then agreed with the argument in one comment.
And mocking people over command of a second language is facking hilarius if you cannot even speak/write perfect English as a native speaker.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You really are struggling with this!
Genuine or not 3 spells of absence in 6 months should lead to a review of someones timekeeping!
When you say genuine illness what do you class as genuine? Hopefully not a common cold?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So say you had flu, the vomiting and diarrhoea due to food poisoning and then had to stay off to look after your partner/child, you think that it is normal to receive a warning? That's how it works in my place.
I don't think it is right one bit. Especially for hourly paid workers who have to take a hit on their wages, as well as the warning, for something beyond their control.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I work for one of the world’s leading food manufacturers, so something like sicknesses and diarrhoea you would be off 3 or 4 days whilst you had it then a further 48 hrs to ensure you’re clear, this would fall under the 7 day self certification on full pay, then if I had to stay off to look after my partner I’d be encouraged to use some holiday leave.
Like I’ve said people do try it on and unfortunately with the 7 day self certification this is open to abuse hence why you have to some sort of controls, whether it be a warning or suspended from the sick scheme, personally I’d rather they handed out warnings and suspensions than loose the scheme of which I benefited from greatly during the issues I had after snapping my ankle.
With my company if someone had 3 self certified spells in 6 months they would probably have to have an attendance review, if they’ve had 3 separate issues like a couple of colds and bad back then they’ll be warned that they risk being suspended from the sick scheme if they don’t improve their attendance, but if it’s been the same issue like the old bad back they’ll be offered support through occupational health.
I really guess we’re poles apart how our companies operate, I really feel my company want to help the employees whereas yours don’t.
2 years ago we had one guy that was suffering with a bad knee he was on and off work both as self certified and on occasions with a Drs sick note, he was referred to occupational health who then involved HR, it became apparent that he needed keyhole surgery on his knee but had to wait 9 months for it, when the company weighed up the cost of paying him sick pay on and off for the 9 months plus his recuperation it worked out it would be far quicker and cheaper for them to pay privately for him to have it done, a win win for both the poor lad and the company.
Maybe I’m being a tad harsh with my opinion, but we work a 4 days on 5 days off, 5 days on 4 days off shift pattern which averages to working 14 days a month plus 28 days holiday a year and we still have people taking the piiiss putting a great sick scheme at risk.
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Yes but we aren't talking about your job where you have a sick scheme.
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So I can’t have an opinion?
This article has been based on people’s experiences and opinions, i shared my experiences and given my opinion!
I did say we were poles apart in how we are treated by our companies but 3 or 4 times off work in 6 months unless you have a genuine recurring illness is excessive and questions should be asked “sick scheme” or not!
If it was your company how would you treat someone being off 3 or 4 times in 6 months?
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Wrf are you talking about you can't have an opinion? You're applying something different to what we are talking about.
If you mean you can't do that, then no as it's different.
If we had we you have in your job everybody would be happy with that and wouldn't be complaining about it. We don't.
If it were my company I'd treat it on a case by case basis and where people are taking the Ρiss, I'd give them the warning and where people have a legitimate reason, I wouldn't. I would also look for patterns, for example does it keep happening on a Monday, how many times does the same illness occur. I would then give advice and in some cases offer the company's help, in getting to the bottom of an illness.
As I said, case by case basis, not a straight warning for three periods of illness in six months.
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 6 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 37 minutes ago
I am really not struggling with anything, if you don't get my point, then you are a serial point misser.
En nu ben ik klaar met je. Dikke doei, ik heb geen zin om nog langer met mongolen te converseren. Je kan lekker in je eigen sop gaar koken.
Handoek.
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“And now I'm done with you. Goodbye, I don't feel like conversing with mongols any longer.”
So you’re not “struggling with anything” and yet instead of answering a simple question you choose to runaway.
All I want you to do, is define genuine sickness which you would have to call in sick for!
You seem to be “struggling” with that!
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Not running from anything, answered all your questions, hence I say you keep missing the point and you're a moron. And we have had a similar run in before. You really are thick as a plank. I cant be bothered to entertain you any longer.
Maybe I’m being a tad harsh with my opinion, but we work a 4 days on 5 days off, 5 days on 4 days off shift pattern which averages to working 14 days a month plus 28 days holiday a year and we still have people taking the piiiss putting a great sick scheme at risk.
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You took 3 years off out of a 5 year period with a sprain ankle
Wrf are you talking about you can't have an opinion? You're applying something different to what we are talking about.
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Exactly, and explained that to him, but he doesnt get it.
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posted on 4/4/20
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 9 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 11 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
In my job, if you have three periods of absence within 6 months, you get a warning.
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Even if completely legitimate?
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Yes mate. It's ridiculous.
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That’s not “ridiculous” in any shape or form!
If you are paid in full during your absence then I can totally see where your company is coming from!
They have to have some sort of control over absence through illness, otherwise you’d be getting people taking the piiiss, the company that I work for also have controls in place for absence and one of the reasons it’s done is to make sure we keep our sickness scheme going to ensure you get paid your full wage and not statutory sick pay when absent.
Few years back I snapped my ankle and over a 5 year period I had 4 operations in which I was probably off work for a total of 3 years, I did have one or two phased returns in between the operations but I never lost a penny due to having the sick scheme.
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You completely missed the point
posted on 4/4/20
But why six feet? It's hard to fathom!
posted on 4/4/20
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
But why six feet? It's hard to fathom!
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Because droplets in sneeze in general doesnt travel past 6 feet
https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-six-feet-enough-social-distancing.html
posted on 4/4/20
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 2 hours, 34 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 9 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 11 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
In my job, if you have three periods of absence within 6 months, you get a warning.
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Even if completely legitimate?
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Yes mate. It's ridiculous.
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That’s not “ridiculous” in any shape or form!
If you are paid in full during your absence then I can totally see where your company is coming from!
They have to have some sort of control over absence through illness, otherwise you’d be getting people taking the piiiss, the company that I work for also have controls in place for absence and one of the reasons it’s done is to make sure we keep our sickness scheme going to ensure you get paid your full wage and not statutory sick pay when absent.
Few years back I snapped my ankle and over a 5 year period I had 4 operations in which I was probably off work for a total of 3 years, I did have one or two phased returns in between the operations but I never lost a penny due to having the sick scheme.
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You completely missed the point
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Did I?
Enlighten me
posted on 4/4/20
Someone has already used the phrase 'You missed the point'. Six feet is a fathom.
posted on 5/4/20
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 9 hours, 30 minutes ago
Someone has already used the phrase 'You missed the point'. Six feet is a fathom.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- To think he said I “missed the point” and he couldn’t “fathom” that one out! π€£π€£
posted on 5/4/20
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 9 hours, 30 minutes ago
Someone has already used the phrase 'You missed the point'. Six feet is a fathom.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- To think he said I “missed the point” and he couldn’t “fathom” that one out! π€£π€£
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You do I realise I am Dutch and that English is not my first language? English is my second language. On top of that I speak Spanish and German. I also used to speak French and Yugoslavian but forgot due to not speaking it regularly.
You really are comparable to Trump supporters
posted on 5/4/20
yugoslavian
you mean southern slavic languages like serbo-croat, slovenian and macedonian...which are all mutually intelligible
posted on 5/4/20
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 9 hours, 30 minutes ago
Someone has already used the phrase 'You missed the point'. Six feet is a fathom.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- To think he said I “missed the point” and he couldn’t “fathom” that one out! π€£π€£
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You do I realise I am Dutch and that English is not my first language? English is my second language. On top of that I speak Spanish and German. I also used to speak French and Yugoslavian but forgot due to not speaking it regularly.
You really are comparable to Trump supporters
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Wow! Someone’s a tad touchy!
I’m still waiting for you to explain where I “missed the point”!
Or did you miss my point and now blaming it on your lack of understanding of the English language?
posted on 5/4/20
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 14 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 7 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 11 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
In my job, if you have three periods of absence within 6 months, you get a warning.
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Even if completely legitimate?
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Yes mate. It's ridiculous.
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That’s not “ridiculous” in any shape or form!
If you are paid in full during your absence then I can totally see where your company is coming from!
They have to have some sort of control over absence through illness, otherwise you’d be getting people taking the piiiss, the company that I work for also have controls in place for absence and one of the reasons it’s done is to make sure we keep our sickness scheme going to ensure you get paid your full wage and not statutory sick pay when absent.
Few years back I snapped my ankle and over a 5 year period I had 4 operations in which I was probably off work for a total of 3 years, I did have one or two phased returns in between the operations but I never lost a penny due to having the sick scheme.
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The people who get warnings only get statutory sick pay as they are hourly paid.
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Im on an hourly rate!
My company pay 6 mths full pay and a further weeks full pay for every year you’ve worked there, then you drop down to 75%
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Mine don't, otherwise people would be off left, right and centre.
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Ok mate, guess I’m one of the lucky ones, we do have some that take the piiiss, however the bad ones are now getting taken off the sick scheme for a year.
I’m really lucky to work for a decent company, the vulnerable workers have been told to have 3mths off on full pay.
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Yes that's a good scheme and if implemented it would likely result in less sick days on average and a net gain, in terms of profit.
posted on 5/4/20
comment by peks..#masks4all (U6618)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
yugoslavian
you mean southern slavic languages like serbo-croat, slovenian and macedonian...which are all mutually intelligible
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Yes, I said Yugoslavian because I spoke Bosnian and Croat and just to simplify things I said Yugoslavian. I served 2 x 6 months in Bosnia and 6 months in Croatia, so I know the history of the country and its split up quite well.
posted on 5/4/20
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 9 hours, 30 minutes ago
Someone has already used the phrase 'You missed the point'. Six feet is a fathom.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- To think he said I “missed the point” and he couldn’t “fathom” that one out! π€£π€£
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You do I realise I am Dutch and that English is not my first language? English is my second language. On top of that I speak Spanish and German. I also used to speak French and Yugoslavian but forgot due to not speaking it regularly.
You really are comparable to Trump supporters
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Wow! Someone’s a tad touchy!
I’m still waiting for you to explain where I “missed the point”!
Or did you miss my point and now blaming it on your lack of understanding of the English language?
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No one said the policy of a warning after 3 absences in 6 months is ridiculous. We were arguing that if those are genuine absences, its ridiculous to get a warning. Which you disagreed with and then go on to make a point which actually is in line with what we were saying. That the policy is to prevent people taking the piiiiss. And I understand you got to call in sick for 3 out of 5 years without getting a warning.
Which is the point we were making. So you missed the point completely. You disagreed and then agreed with the argument in one comment.
And mocking people over command of a second language is facking hilarius if you cannot even speak/write perfect English as a native speaker.
posted on 5/4/20
But on the bright side this Coronavrus isn't as bad as the Fantavirus of '76 or the Tangovirus of '84. Similar symptoms but they turned your skin bright orange as well.
posted on 5/4/20
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 9 hours, 30 minutes ago
Someone has already used the phrase 'You missed the point'. Six feet is a fathom.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- To think he said I “missed the point” and he couldn’t “fathom” that one out! π€£π€£
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You do I realise I am Dutch and that English is not my first language? English is my second language. On top of that I speak Spanish and German. I also used to speak French and Yugoslavian but forgot due to not speaking it regularly.
You really are comparable to Trump supporters
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow! Someone’s a tad touchy!
I’m still waiting for you to explain where I “missed the point”!
Or did you miss my point and now blaming it on your lack of understanding of the English language?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No one said the policy of a warning after 3 absences in 6 months is ridiculous. We were arguing that if those are genuine absences, its ridiculous to get a warning. Which you disagreed with and then go on to make a point which actually is in line with what we were saying. That the policy is to prevent people taking the piiiiss. And I understand you got to call in sick for 3 out of 5 years without getting a warning.
Which is the point we were making. So you missed the point completely. You disagreed and then agreed with the argument in one comment.
And mocking people over command of a second language is facking hilarius if you cannot even speak/write perfect English as a native speaker.
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You really are struggling with this!
Genuine or not 3 spells of absence in 6 months should lead to a review of someones timekeeping!
When you say genuine illness what do you class as genuine? Hopefully not a common cold?
posted on 5/4/20
I am really not struggling with anything, if you don't get my point, then you are a serial point misser.
En nu ben ik klaar met je. Dikke doei, ik heb geen zin om nog langer met mongolen te converseren. Je kan lekker in je eigen sop gaar koken.
Handoek.
posted on 5/4/20
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 37 minutes ago
I am really not struggling with anything, if you don't get my point, then you are a serial point misser.
En nu ben ik klaar met je. Dikke doei, ik heb geen zin om nog langer met mongolen te converseren. Je kan lekker in je eigen sop gaar koken.
Handoek.
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“And now I'm done with you. Goodbye, I don't feel like conversing with mongols any longer.”
So you’re not “struggling with anything” and yet instead of answering a simple question you choose to runaway.
All I want you to do, is define genuine sickness which you would have to call in sick for!
You seem to be “struggling” with that!
posted on 5/4/20
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 4 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 9 hours, 30 minutes ago
Someone has already used the phrase 'You missed the point'. Six feet is a fathom.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- To think he said I “missed the point” and he couldn’t “fathom” that one out! π€£π€£
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You do I realise I am Dutch and that English is not my first language? English is my second language. On top of that I speak Spanish and German. I also used to speak French and Yugoslavian but forgot due to not speaking it regularly.
You really are comparable to Trump supporters
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow! Someone’s a tad touchy!
I’m still waiting for you to explain where I “missed the point”!
Or did you miss my point and now blaming it on your lack of understanding of the English language?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No one said the policy of a warning after 3 absences in 6 months is ridiculous. We were arguing that if those are genuine absences, its ridiculous to get a warning. Which you disagreed with and then go on to make a point which actually is in line with what we were saying. That the policy is to prevent people taking the piiiiss. And I understand you got to call in sick for 3 out of 5 years without getting a warning.
Which is the point we were making. So you missed the point completely. You disagreed and then agreed with the argument in one comment.
And mocking people over command of a second language is facking hilarius if you cannot even speak/write perfect English as a native speaker.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You really are struggling with this!
Genuine or not 3 spells of absence in 6 months should lead to a review of someones timekeeping!
When you say genuine illness what do you class as genuine? Hopefully not a common cold?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So say you had flu, the vomiting and diarrhoea due to food poisoning and then had to stay off to look after your partner/child, you think that it is normal to receive a warning? That's how it works in my place.
I don't think it is right one bit. Especially for hourly paid workers who have to take a hit on their wages, as well as the warning, for something beyond their control.
posted on 5/4/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 4 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 9 hours, 30 minutes ago
Someone has already used the phrase 'You missed the point'. Six feet is a fathom.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- To think he said I “missed the point” and he couldn’t “fathom” that one out! π€£π€£
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You do I realise I am Dutch and that English is not my first language? English is my second language. On top of that I speak Spanish and German. I also used to speak French and Yugoslavian but forgot due to not speaking it regularly.
You really are comparable to Trump supporters
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow! Someone’s a tad touchy!
I’m still waiting for you to explain where I “missed the point”!
Or did you miss my point and now blaming it on your lack of understanding of the English language?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No one said the policy of a warning after 3 absences in 6 months is ridiculous. We were arguing that if those are genuine absences, its ridiculous to get a warning. Which you disagreed with and then go on to make a point which actually is in line with what we were saying. That the policy is to prevent people taking the piiiiss. And I understand you got to call in sick for 3 out of 5 years without getting a warning.
Which is the point we were making. So you missed the point completely. You disagreed and then agreed with the argument in one comment.
And mocking people over command of a second language is facking hilarius if you cannot even speak/write perfect English as a native speaker.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You really are struggling with this!
Genuine or not 3 spells of absence in 6 months should lead to a review of someones timekeeping!
When you say genuine illness what do you class as genuine? Hopefully not a common cold?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So say you had flu, the vomiting and diarrhoea due to food poisoning and then had to stay off to look after your partner/child, you think that it is normal to receive a warning? That's how it works in my place.
I don't think it is right one bit. Especially for hourly paid workers who have to take a hit on their wages, as well as the warning, for something beyond their control.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I work for one of the world’s leading food manufacturers, so something like sicknesses and diarrhoea you would be off 3 or 4 days whilst you had it then a further 48 hrs to ensure you’re clear, this would fall under the 7 day self certification on full pay, then if I had to stay off to look after my partner I’d be encouraged to use some holiday leave.
Like I’ve said people do try it on and unfortunately with the 7 day self certification this is open to abuse hence why you have to some sort of controls, whether it be a warning or suspended from the sick scheme, personally I’d rather they handed out warnings and suspensions than loose the scheme of which I benefited from greatly during the issues I had after snapping my ankle.
With my company if someone had 3 self certified spells in 6 months they would probably have to have an attendance review, if they’ve had 3 separate issues like a couple of colds and bad back then they’ll be warned that they risk being suspended from the sick scheme if they don’t improve their attendance, but if it’s been the same issue like the old bad back they’ll be offered support through occupational health.
I really guess we’re poles apart how our companies operate, I really feel my company want to help the employees whereas yours don’t.
2 years ago we had one guy that was suffering with a bad knee he was on and off work both as self certified and on occasions with a Drs sick note, he was referred to occupational health who then involved HR, it became apparent that he needed keyhole surgery on his knee but had to wait 9 months for it, when the company weighed up the cost of paying him sick pay on and off for the 9 months plus his recuperation it worked out it would be far quicker and cheaper for them to pay privately for him to have it done, a win win for both the poor lad and the company.
Maybe I’m being a tad harsh with my opinion, but we work a 4 days on 5 days off, 5 days on 4 days off shift pattern which averages to working 14 days a month plus 28 days holiday a year and we still have people taking the piiiss putting a great sick scheme at risk.
posted on 5/4/20
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 4 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 9 hours, 30 minutes ago
Someone has already used the phrase 'You missed the point'. Six feet is a fathom.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- To think he said I “missed the point” and he couldn’t “fathom” that one out! π€£π€£
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You do I realise I am Dutch and that English is not my first language? English is my second language. On top of that I speak Spanish and German. I also used to speak French and Yugoslavian but forgot due to not speaking it regularly.
You really are comparable to Trump supporters
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow! Someone’s a tad touchy!
I’m still waiting for you to explain where I “missed the point”!
Or did you miss my point and now blaming it on your lack of understanding of the English language?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No one said the policy of a warning after 3 absences in 6 months is ridiculous. We were arguing that if those are genuine absences, its ridiculous to get a warning. Which you disagreed with and then go on to make a point which actually is in line with what we were saying. That the policy is to prevent people taking the piiiiss. And I understand you got to call in sick for 3 out of 5 years without getting a warning.
Which is the point we were making. So you missed the point completely. You disagreed and then agreed with the argument in one comment.
And mocking people over command of a second language is facking hilarius if you cannot even speak/write perfect English as a native speaker.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You really are struggling with this!
Genuine or not 3 spells of absence in 6 months should lead to a review of someones timekeeping!
When you say genuine illness what do you class as genuine? Hopefully not a common cold?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So say you had flu, the vomiting and diarrhoea due to food poisoning and then had to stay off to look after your partner/child, you think that it is normal to receive a warning? That's how it works in my place.
I don't think it is right one bit. Especially for hourly paid workers who have to take a hit on their wages, as well as the warning, for something beyond their control.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I work for one of the world’s leading food manufacturers, so something like sicknesses and diarrhoea you would be off 3 or 4 days whilst you had it then a further 48 hrs to ensure you’re clear, this would fall under the 7 day self certification on full pay, then if I had to stay off to look after my partner I’d be encouraged to use some holiday leave.
Like I’ve said people do try it on and unfortunately with the 7 day self certification this is open to abuse hence why you have to some sort of controls, whether it be a warning or suspended from the sick scheme, personally I’d rather they handed out warnings and suspensions than loose the scheme of which I benefited from greatly during the issues I had after snapping my ankle.
With my company if someone had 3 self certified spells in 6 months they would probably have to have an attendance review, if they’ve had 3 separate issues like a couple of colds and bad back then they’ll be warned that they risk being suspended from the sick scheme if they don’t improve their attendance, but if it’s been the same issue like the old bad back they’ll be offered support through occupational health.
I really guess we’re poles apart how our companies operate, I really feel my company want to help the employees whereas yours don’t.
2 years ago we had one guy that was suffering with a bad knee he was on and off work both as self certified and on occasions with a Drs sick note, he was referred to occupational health who then involved HR, it became apparent that he needed keyhole surgery on his knee but had to wait 9 months for it, when the company weighed up the cost of paying him sick pay on and off for the 9 months plus his recuperation it worked out it would be far quicker and cheaper for them to pay privately for him to have it done, a win win for both the poor lad and the company.
Maybe I’m being a tad harsh with my opinion, but we work a 4 days on 5 days off, 5 days on 4 days off shift pattern which averages to working 14 days a month plus 28 days holiday a year and we still have people taking the piiiss putting a great sick scheme at risk.
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Yes but we aren't talking about your job where you have a sick scheme.
posted on 5/4/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 4 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 9 hours, 30 minutes ago
Someone has already used the phrase 'You missed the point'. Six feet is a fathom.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- To think he said I “missed the point” and he couldn’t “fathom” that one out! π€£π€£
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You do I realise I am Dutch and that English is not my first language? English is my second language. On top of that I speak Spanish and German. I also used to speak French and Yugoslavian but forgot due to not speaking it regularly.
You really are comparable to Trump supporters
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow! Someone’s a tad touchy!
I’m still waiting for you to explain where I “missed the point”!
Or did you miss my point and now blaming it on your lack of understanding of the English language?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No one said the policy of a warning after 3 absences in 6 months is ridiculous. We were arguing that if those are genuine absences, its ridiculous to get a warning. Which you disagreed with and then go on to make a point which actually is in line with what we were saying. That the policy is to prevent people taking the piiiiss. And I understand you got to call in sick for 3 out of 5 years without getting a warning.
Which is the point we were making. So you missed the point completely. You disagreed and then agreed with the argument in one comment.
And mocking people over command of a second language is facking hilarius if you cannot even speak/write perfect English as a native speaker.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You really are struggling with this!
Genuine or not 3 spells of absence in 6 months should lead to a review of someones timekeeping!
When you say genuine illness what do you class as genuine? Hopefully not a common cold?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So say you had flu, the vomiting and diarrhoea due to food poisoning and then had to stay off to look after your partner/child, you think that it is normal to receive a warning? That's how it works in my place.
I don't think it is right one bit. Especially for hourly paid workers who have to take a hit on their wages, as well as the warning, for something beyond their control.
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I work for one of the world’s leading food manufacturers, so something like sicknesses and diarrhoea you would be off 3 or 4 days whilst you had it then a further 48 hrs to ensure you’re clear, this would fall under the 7 day self certification on full pay, then if I had to stay off to look after my partner I’d be encouraged to use some holiday leave.
Like I’ve said people do try it on and unfortunately with the 7 day self certification this is open to abuse hence why you have to some sort of controls, whether it be a warning or suspended from the sick scheme, personally I’d rather they handed out warnings and suspensions than loose the scheme of which I benefited from greatly during the issues I had after snapping my ankle.
With my company if someone had 3 self certified spells in 6 months they would probably have to have an attendance review, if they’ve had 3 separate issues like a couple of colds and bad back then they’ll be warned that they risk being suspended from the sick scheme if they don’t improve their attendance, but if it’s been the same issue like the old bad back they’ll be offered support through occupational health.
I really guess we’re poles apart how our companies operate, I really feel my company want to help the employees whereas yours don’t.
2 years ago we had one guy that was suffering with a bad knee he was on and off work both as self certified and on occasions with a Drs sick note, he was referred to occupational health who then involved HR, it became apparent that he needed keyhole surgery on his knee but had to wait 9 months for it, when the company weighed up the cost of paying him sick pay on and off for the 9 months plus his recuperation it worked out it would be far quicker and cheaper for them to pay privately for him to have it done, a win win for both the poor lad and the company.
Maybe I’m being a tad harsh with my opinion, but we work a 4 days on 5 days off, 5 days on 4 days off shift pattern which averages to working 14 days a month plus 28 days holiday a year and we still have people taking the piiiss putting a great sick scheme at risk.
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Yes but we aren't talking about your job where you have a sick scheme.
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So I can’t have an opinion?
This article has been based on people’s experiences and opinions, i shared my experiences and given my opinion!
I did say we were poles apart in how we are treated by our companies but 3 or 4 times off work in 6 months unless you have a genuine recurring illness is excessive and questions should be asked “sick scheme” or not!
If it was your company how would you treat someone being off 3 or 4 times in 6 months?
posted on 5/4/20
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Someone has already used the phrase 'You missed the point'. Six feet is a fathom.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- To think he said I “missed the point” and he couldn’t “fathom” that one out! π€£π€£
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You do I realise I am Dutch and that English is not my first language? English is my second language. On top of that I speak Spanish and German. I also used to speak French and Yugoslavian but forgot due to not speaking it regularly.
You really are comparable to Trump supporters
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Wow! Someone’s a tad touchy!
I’m still waiting for you to explain where I “missed the point”!
Or did you miss my point and now blaming it on your lack of understanding of the English language?
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No one said the policy of a warning after 3 absences in 6 months is ridiculous. We were arguing that if those are genuine absences, its ridiculous to get a warning. Which you disagreed with and then go on to make a point which actually is in line with what we were saying. That the policy is to prevent people taking the piiiiss. And I understand you got to call in sick for 3 out of 5 years without getting a warning.
Which is the point we were making. So you missed the point completely. You disagreed and then agreed with the argument in one comment.
And mocking people over command of a second language is facking hilarius if you cannot even speak/write perfect English as a native speaker.
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You really are struggling with this!
Genuine or not 3 spells of absence in 6 months should lead to a review of someones timekeeping!
When you say genuine illness what do you class as genuine? Hopefully not a common cold?
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So say you had flu, the vomiting and diarrhoea due to food poisoning and then had to stay off to look after your partner/child, you think that it is normal to receive a warning? That's how it works in my place.
I don't think it is right one bit. Especially for hourly paid workers who have to take a hit on their wages, as well as the warning, for something beyond their control.
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I work for one of the world’s leading food manufacturers, so something like sicknesses and diarrhoea you would be off 3 or 4 days whilst you had it then a further 48 hrs to ensure you’re clear, this would fall under the 7 day self certification on full pay, then if I had to stay off to look after my partner I’d be encouraged to use some holiday leave.
Like I’ve said people do try it on and unfortunately with the 7 day self certification this is open to abuse hence why you have to some sort of controls, whether it be a warning or suspended from the sick scheme, personally I’d rather they handed out warnings and suspensions than loose the scheme of which I benefited from greatly during the issues I had after snapping my ankle.
With my company if someone had 3 self certified spells in 6 months they would probably have to have an attendance review, if they’ve had 3 separate issues like a couple of colds and bad back then they’ll be warned that they risk being suspended from the sick scheme if they don’t improve their attendance, but if it’s been the same issue like the old bad back they’ll be offered support through occupational health.
I really guess we’re poles apart how our companies operate, I really feel my company want to help the employees whereas yours don’t.
2 years ago we had one guy that was suffering with a bad knee he was on and off work both as self certified and on occasions with a Drs sick note, he was referred to occupational health who then involved HR, it became apparent that he needed keyhole surgery on his knee but had to wait 9 months for it, when the company weighed up the cost of paying him sick pay on and off for the 9 months plus his recuperation it worked out it would be far quicker and cheaper for them to pay privately for him to have it done, a win win for both the poor lad and the company.
Maybe I’m being a tad harsh with my opinion, but we work a 4 days on 5 days off, 5 days on 4 days off shift pattern which averages to working 14 days a month plus 28 days holiday a year and we still have people taking the piiiss putting a great sick scheme at risk.
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Yes but we aren't talking about your job where you have a sick scheme.
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So I can’t have an opinion?
This article has been based on people’s experiences and opinions, i shared my experiences and given my opinion!
I did say we were poles apart in how we are treated by our companies but 3 or 4 times off work in 6 months unless you have a genuine recurring illness is excessive and questions should be asked “sick scheme” or not!
If it was your company how would you treat someone being off 3 or 4 times in 6 months?
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Wrf are you talking about you can't have an opinion? You're applying something different to what we are talking about.
If you mean you can't do that, then no as it's different.
If we had we you have in your job everybody would be happy with that and wouldn't be complaining about it. We don't.
posted on 5/4/20
If it were my company I'd treat it on a case by case basis and where people are taking the Ρiss, I'd give them the warning and where people have a legitimate reason, I wouldn't. I would also look for patterns, for example does it keep happening on a Monday, how many times does the same illness occur. I would then give advice and in some cases offer the company's help, in getting to the bottom of an illness.
As I said, case by case basis, not a straight warning for three periods of illness in six months.
posted on 5/4/20
comment by RED666πΊ. (U6562)
posted 6 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 37 minutes ago
I am really not struggling with anything, if you don't get my point, then you are a serial point misser.
En nu ben ik klaar met je. Dikke doei, ik heb geen zin om nog langer met mongolen te converseren. Je kan lekker in je eigen sop gaar koken.
Handoek.
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“And now I'm done with you. Goodbye, I don't feel like conversing with mongols any longer.”
So you’re not “struggling with anything” and yet instead of answering a simple question you choose to runaway.
All I want you to do, is define genuine sickness which you would have to call in sick for!
You seem to be “struggling” with that!
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Not running from anything, answered all your questions, hence I say you keep missing the point and you're a moron. And we have had a similar run in before. You really are thick as a plank. I cant be bothered to entertain you any longer.
posted on 5/4/20
Maybe I’m being a tad harsh with my opinion, but we work a 4 days on 5 days off, 5 days on 4 days off shift pattern which averages to working 14 days a month plus 28 days holiday a year and we still have people taking the piiiss putting a great sick scheme at risk.
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You took 3 years off out of a 5 year period with a sprain ankle
posted on 5/4/20
Wrf are you talking about you can't have an opinion? You're applying something different to what we are talking about.
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Exactly, and explained that to him, but he doesnt get it.
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