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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977_European_Cup_Final

Look at the teams face to get to the final by both clubs and tell us all how they compare to the competition you would expect to meet to get to modern finals.
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You're looking at the name of the team and comparing to to their current status. In those days those teams were some of the best around. 20 years from now some of the top teams we have might be in the lower divisions. Its not rocket sconce.
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Yeah Crusadors and FC Zurich were feared opponents in the 70's.No teams wanted to draw those juggernauts
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We also have crap teams in it today. As someone pointed out, the group stages are too predictable.

This year we had Brugge, Crvena Zvezda, Shaktar Donetsk, Dinamo Zagreb, Genk, Slavia Prague in the group stages.

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comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
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comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
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comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 30 minutes ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977_European_Cup_Final

Look at the teams face to get to the final by both clubs and tell us all how they compare to the competition you would expect to meet to get to modern finals.
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You're looking at the name of the team and comparing to to their current status. In those days those teams were some of the best around. 20 years from now some of the top teams we have might be in the lower divisions. Its not rocket sconce.
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Yeah Crusadors and FC Zurich were feared opponents in the 70's.No teams wanted to draw those juggernauts
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We also have crap teams in it today. As someone pointed out, the group stages are too predictable.

This year we had Brugge, Crvena Zvezda, Shaktar Donetsk, Dinamo Zagreb, Genk, Slavia Prague in the group stages.
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While competition is predictable for the most part. Money has done that to the game.

comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
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comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
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comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
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comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 30 minutes ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977_European_Cup_Final

Look at the teams face to get to the final by both clubs and tell us all how they compare to the competition you would expect to meet to get to modern finals.
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You're looking at the name of the team and comparing to to their current status. In those days those teams were some of the best around. 20 years from now some of the top teams we have might be in the lower divisions. Its not rocket sconce.
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Yeah Crusadors and FC Zurich were feared opponents in the 70's.No teams wanted to draw those juggernauts
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We also have crap teams in it today. As someone pointed out, the group stages are too predictable.

This year we had Brugge, Crvena Zvezda, Shaktar Donetsk, Dinamo Zagreb, Genk, Slavia Prague in the group stages.
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While competition is predictable for the most part. Money has done that to the game.
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Yes, and its concentrated at the top if we're being honest. Personally I think a super league is inevitable. Its a matter of when, not if. Might be distant future but its coming.

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comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
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comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
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comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 30 minutes ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977_European_Cup_Final

Look at the teams face to get to the final by both clubs and tell us all how they compare to the competition you would expect to meet to get to modern finals.
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You're looking at the name of the team and comparing to to their current status. In those days those teams were some of the best around. 20 years from now some of the top teams we have might be in the lower divisions. Its not rocket sconce.
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Yeah Crusadors and FC Zurich were feared opponents in the 70's.No teams wanted to draw those juggernauts
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We also have crap teams in it today. As someone pointed out, the group stages are too predictable.

This year we had Brugge, Crvena Zvezda, Shaktar Donetsk, Dinamo Zagreb, Genk, Slavia Prague in the group stages.
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FC Zurich and dinamo Kiev both reached the Semi's. No matter how you paint it,the competition was far weaker in the 70's and 80's.

Nottm Forest won promotion,won the league the following season and then won the European cup 2 seasons running.One of those seasons they beat the might of Malmo in the final.

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comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
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comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
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comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
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comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 30 minutes ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977_European_Cup_Final

Look at the teams face to get to the final by both clubs and tell us all how they compare to the competition you would expect to meet to get to modern finals.
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You're looking at the name of the team and comparing to to their current status. In those days those teams were some of the best around. 20 years from now some of the top teams we have might be in the lower divisions. Its not rocket sconce.
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Yeah Crusadors and FC Zurich were feared opponents in the 70's.No teams wanted to draw those juggernauts
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We also have crap teams in it today. As someone pointed out, the group stages are too predictable.

This year we had Brugge, Crvena Zvezda, Shaktar Donetsk, Dinamo Zagreb, Genk, Slavia Prague in the group stages.
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FC Zurich and dinamo Kiev both reached the Semi's. No matter how you paint it,the competition was far weaker in the 70's and 80's.

Nottm Forest won promotion,won the league the following season and then won the European cup 2 seasons running.One of those seasons they beat the might of Malmo in the final.
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The competition was not weaker dummy. Its FC Zurich and Dinamo Kiev that were strong teams at the time. Just because they're crap now doesn't mean they've always been crap.

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comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
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comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
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comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 30 minutes ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977_European_Cup_Final

Look at the teams face to get to the final by both clubs and tell us all how they compare to the competition you would expect to meet to get to modern finals.
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You're looking at the name of the team and comparing to to their current status. In those days those teams were some of the best around. 20 years from now some of the top teams we have might be in the lower divisions. Its not rocket sconce.
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Yeah Crusadors and FC Zurich were feared opponents in the 70's.No teams wanted to draw those juggernauts
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We also have crap teams in it today. As someone pointed out, the group stages are too predictable.

This year we had Brugge, Crvena Zvezda, Shaktar Donetsk, Dinamo Zagreb, Genk, Slavia Prague in the group stages.
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FC Zurich and dinamo Kiev both reached the Semi's. No matter how you paint it,the competition was far weaker in the 70's and 80's.

Nottm Forest won promotion,won the league the following season and then won the European cup 2 seasons running.One of those seasons they beat the might of Malmo in the final.
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The competition was not weaker dummy. Its FC Zurich and Dinamo Kiev that were strong teams at the time. Just because they're crap now doesn't mean they've always been crap.
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Where you actually around when these teams were playing in the 70's and 80's?

Did you actually see any of them play?

in the pre-champions league era it is widely thought that the strongest of the 3 euro club competitions was in fact the UEFA cup, not the European Cup (which was ofcourse the most prestigious)

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comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
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comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 30 minutes ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977_European_Cup_Final

Look at the teams face to get to the final by both clubs and tell us all how they compare to the competition you would expect to meet to get to modern finals.
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You're looking at the name of the team and comparing to to their current status. In those days those teams were some of the best around. 20 years from now some of the top teams we have might be in the lower divisions. Its not rocket sconce.
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Yeah Crusadors and FC Zurich were feared opponents in the 70's.No teams wanted to draw those juggernauts
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We also have crap teams in it today. As someone pointed out, the group stages are too predictable.

This year we had Brugge, Crvena Zvezda, Shaktar Donetsk, Dinamo Zagreb, Genk, Slavia Prague in the group stages.
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FC Zurich and dinamo Kiev both reached the Semi's. No matter how you paint it,the competition was far weaker in the 70's and 80's.

Nottm Forest won promotion,won the league the following season and then won the European cup 2 seasons running.One of those seasons they beat the might of Malmo in the final.
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The competition was not weaker dummy. Its FC Zurich and Dinamo Kiev that were strong teams at the time. Just because they're crap now doesn't mean they've always been crap.
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Where you actually around when these teams were playing in the 70's and 80's?

Did you actually see any of them play?
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So which teams deserved to be in the European Cup latter stages more than these?

You're too simple to understand that the level of difficulty remains nearly the same as you change rules for all teams.

To this day people are saying Liverpool are enjoying the benefit of a a worldwide football slump. Go back 30-40 years and still the reason for Liverpool's success is inferior opposition.

You couldn't make it up.

comment by peks..#masks4all (U6618)
posted 7 minutes ago
in the pre-champions league era it is widely thought that the strongest of the 3 euro club competitions was in fact the UEFA cup, not the European Cup (which was ofcourse the most prestigious)
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I bet it had a bigger global tv audience than the CL and PL in the 00’s as well.

comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 5 minutes ago
To this day people are saying Liverpool are enjoying the benefit of a a worldwide football slump. Go back 30-40 years and still the reason for Liverpool's success is inferior opposition.

You couldn't make it up.
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truth is when real madrid are strong , nobody else wins the CL

comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 20 seconds ago
To this day people are saying Liverpool are enjoying the benefit of a a worldwide football slump. Go back 30-40 years and still the reason for Liverpool's success is inferior opposition.

You couldn't make it up.
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I don't think you realise,it was a straight draw straight from the off.The 2 best teams could meet in the first round and that would open it up for every one else.

Only 1 team from each country,have a few players out and have a bad game and you were gone.

It was very much of a case of getting the luck of the draw to progress at times.Not like now where you could lose 3 out of 6 games and still get through.

As I said earlier,it was far harder to qualify for it,but once you did it was far easier to win.

Teams that finished 2nd and third in Spain/England/Italy were far stronger than the winners of the Swiss or Swedish leagues back then also.

comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 20 seconds ago
To this day people are saying Liverpool are enjoying the benefit of a a worldwide football slump. Go back 30-40 years and still the reason for Liverpool's success is inferior opposition.

You couldn't make it up.
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I don't think you realise,it was a straight draw straight from the off.The 2 best teams could meet in the first round and that would open it up for every one else.

Only 1 team from each country,have a few players out and have a bad game and you were gone.

It was very much of a case of getting the luck of the draw to progress at times.Not like now where you could lose 3 out of 6 games and still get through.

As I said earlier,it was far harder to qualify for it,but once you did it was far easier to win.

Teams that finished 2nd and third in Spain/England/Italy were far stronger than the winners of the Swiss or Swedish leagues back then also.
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I know how it worked Thanks.

All this cuts both ways and the last paragraph is not a fact. Sometimes they were sometimes they weren't. Look at the winners of the junior European comps and its the same thing.

comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
It’s basic common sense that the world would be more exposed to players in an era where television and the internet increases the exposure to a larger population.

David Beckham was the most famous footballer on the facking planet when he played with Scholes and Keane.

Playing in a few European Cup finals in the 80’s isn’t an increased exposure to 20 years in the digital age in the most popular team in the most popular league in the world.

Gotta be on the wum.
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He isn’t on the WUM. He is an utter moron. I have been saying this for the last decade.

TOOR may well be an offspring from Trump.

Does the Souness>Pogba due to trophies argument apply to Scholes V Gerrard?

I’ve always known Toor’s a moron, VC. But there are levels to which it borders wummery. This is such a case. I refuse to believe that even Toor is this thick.

I refuse to believe that even Toor is this thick

.....

That is where the evidence leads me.

comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 7 hours, 6 minutes ago
Does the Souness>Pogba due to trophies argument apply to Scholes V Gerrard?
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Scholes was more at Danny Murphy level. Its blasphemous to mention him in the same sentence as Gerrard.

Mancs are so deluded. Do any Mancs still think Scholes was better than Gerrard? Seriously?

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They wouldn’t need to know the history of players. You make it sound as though people are lining up at local library to divulge on past player glories.

I know the names of the great players from the eras before me because I watch the game. I see footage, I hear references, I’ve read things.


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I’m the kind of fan that loves watching football - regardless of whether my own team is playing.

I watch football related shows, listen to football related phone ins and radio shows, read football books and took about it an awful lot with friends.

I’ve seen Liverpool win the lot. I’m pretty fortunate.
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Mocks someone about reading library books.

Then proceeds to talk repeatedly about reading books about football.

The only thing sadder than someone obessessing over football to the point of listening to talk back radio and reading football books is actually paying for the books instead of borrowing them from a library.

What a monumental spacker.


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Except I didn’t mock people for reading library books. Are you really that thick that you can misconstrue such a simple sentence?

I can imagine you’ve been incensed reading these pages and desperate to jump in. But in doing so, you’ve looked like the prat of the year.

Also, nobody mentioned obsessing over football. I don’t believe watching football, listening to football phones ins and reading the odd football book makes someone obsessed. It simply makes them a fan.

And then you have the audacity to call someone else a spacker. This is Brilliant.

"I can imagine you’ve been incensed reading these pages and desperate to jump in. But in doing so, you’ve looked like the prat of the year."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

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