Well said Sandy, that fact being airbrushed from Poolmy and his fellow citizens minds is a travesty.
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 hours, 37 minutes ago
The government have failed every step of the way.
Slow with the lockdown - actually announcing which day the pubs would shut which means a load of people went for one last pizz up.
Cheltenham as mentioned above, and other sporting events planned..
This slow response was, I feel, calculated to talk about doing a lot, but in fact did very little which plays into the herd immunity plan..
We still don’t have mandated checks at airports nor enforced quarantine. There are hundreds of airport hotels available for this to happen.
Ignoring the outcomes from the Cygnus study that outlined the NHS would collapse in the face of a pandemic. Government did nothing in that for 4 years because pursuing Brexit was more important.
With Brexit being a political ideology the government completely ignored the U.K. being invited to a EU wide procurement programme for medical equipment including PPE.
Lying about their being a logistical issue in delivering PPE - the PPE doesn’t exist. There are at this moment hundreds if not thousands of delivery drivers on furlough. Completely crazy to blame logistics - this is the same government that didn’t know “the importance of Dover” when trying to deliver Brexit.
Actually announcing that families of the NHS staff dying doing their jobs will be getting £60k - this is basically hush money.
Not having PPE and resulting in deaths means corporate manslaughter in the business world. Someone in government have done the sums on that £60k
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How is that European purchasing going? Why does Germany not have enough PPE and where are the 50,000 ventilators we could have had?
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Poolmyfinger - Truth Teller - F#ck China (U12438)
posted 8 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 4 minutes ago
How easy is it to become a citizen?
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Trump has made it virtually impossible. As it panders to his core supporters.
His administration has brought in a raft of policies to prevent undocumented immigrants from citizenship.
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It's a process, and as it should be. If we just granted amnesty to anyone who crossed the border, then the floodgates would open up.
If you meet the criteria, then we will welcome you with open arms.
Nobody is entitled to be a part of the United States except those who are citizens. We also have the right to determine who should be a citizen of the country...and the ones we will welcome are those who actually obey our immigration laws
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Are you a descendant of a North American Indian If not it is not your country. You are of immigrant descent, like the ones you are trying to keep out of the country..
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He is a descendant if the people who stole that nation from Native Americans and Mexicans.
There is no lockdown.
There has been no lockdown.
There is a minor restriction of movement.
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 hours, 37 minutes ago
The government have failed every step of the way.
Slow with the lockdown - actually announcing which day the pubs would shut which means a load of people went for one last pizz up.
Cheltenham as mentioned above, and other sporting events planned..
This slow response was, I feel, calculated to talk about doing a lot, but in fact did very little which plays into the herd immunity plan..
We still don’t have mandated checks at airports nor enforced quarantine. There are hundreds of airport hotels available for this to happen.
Ignoring the outcomes from the Cygnus study that outlined the NHS would collapse in the face of a pandemic. Government did nothing in that for 4 years because pursuing Brexit was more important.
With Brexit being a political ideology the government completely ignored the U.K. being invited to a EU wide procurement programme for medical equipment including PPE.
Lying about their being a logistical issue in delivering PPE - the PPE doesn’t exist. There are at this moment hundreds if not thousands of delivery drivers on furlough. Completely crazy to blame logistics - this is the same government that didn’t know “the importance of Dover” when trying to deliver Brexit.
Actually announcing that families of the NHS staff dying doing their jobs will be getting £60k - this is basically hush money.
Not having PPE and resulting in deaths means corporate manslaughter in the business world. Someone in government have done the sums on that £60k
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is that European purchasing going? Why does Germany not have enough PPE and where are the 50,000 ventilators we could have had?
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Maybe because PPE isn't reusable and they're running out of stocks after showing the UK how to deal with Covid.
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 hours, 37 minutes ago
The government have failed every step of the way.
Slow with the lockdown - actually announcing which day the pubs would shut which means a load of people went for one last pizz up.
Cheltenham as mentioned above, and other sporting events planned..
This slow response was, I feel, calculated to talk about doing a lot, but in fact did very little which plays into the herd immunity plan..
We still don’t have mandated checks at airports nor enforced quarantine. There are hundreds of airport hotels available for this to happen.
Ignoring the outcomes from the Cygnus study that outlined the NHS would collapse in the face of a pandemic. Government did nothing in that for 4 years because pursuing Brexit was more important.
With Brexit being a political ideology the government completely ignored the U.K. being invited to a EU wide procurement programme for medical equipment including PPE.
Lying about their being a logistical issue in delivering PPE - the PPE doesn’t exist. There are at this moment hundreds if not thousands of delivery drivers on furlough. Completely crazy to blame logistics - this is the same government that didn’t know “the importance of Dover” when trying to deliver Brexit.
Actually announcing that families of the NHS staff dying doing their jobs will be getting £60k - this is basically hush money.
Not having PPE and resulting in deaths means corporate manslaughter in the business world. Someone in government have done the sums on that £60k
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is that European purchasing going? Why does Germany not have enough PPE and where are the 50,000 ventilators we could have had?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So Germany using up their supplies of PPE somehow detracts from the UK Gov failings in your mind?
Really?
The UK has the 4th worst deaths per capita due to a covid in the world.
Very obviously keeping the underground and transport around London was a huge mistake.
Same as allowing new arrivals from places like New York, Spain and Italy in unchecked and not subject to mandatory quarantine.
It’s been an absolute clusterfack from the UK government in dealing with it.
Lets all not forget the exit from the lockdown is as shambolic as the entry into it.
Boris fell into the lockdown in the first place and he will stumble out of it killing yet more people.
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 3 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 hours, 37 minutes ago
The government have failed every step of the way.
Slow with the lockdown - actually announcing which day the pubs would shut which means a load of people went for one last pizz up.
Cheltenham as mentioned above, and other sporting events planned..
This slow response was, I feel, calculated to talk about doing a lot, but in fact did very little which plays into the herd immunity plan..
We still don’t have mandated checks at airports nor enforced quarantine. There are hundreds of airport hotels available for this to happen.
Ignoring the outcomes from the Cygnus study that outlined the NHS would collapse in the face of a pandemic. Government did nothing in that for 4 years because pursuing Brexit was more important.
With Brexit being a political ideology the government completely ignored the U.K. being invited to a EU wide procurement programme for medical equipment including PPE.
Lying about their being a logistical issue in delivering PPE - the PPE doesn’t exist. There are at this moment hundreds if not thousands of delivery drivers on furlough. Completely crazy to blame logistics - this is the same government that didn’t know “the importance of Dover” when trying to deliver Brexit.
Actually announcing that families of the NHS staff dying doing their jobs will be getting £60k - this is basically hush money.
Not having PPE and resulting in deaths means corporate manslaughter in the business world. Someone in government have done the sums on that £60k
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is that European purchasing going? Why does Germany not have enough PPE and where are the 50,000 ventilators we could have had?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe because PPE isn't reusable and they're running out of stocks after showing the UK how to deal with Covid.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So the EU procurement is failing
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
Lets all not forget the exit from the lockdown is as shambolic as the entry into it.
Boris fell into the lockdown in the first place and he will stumble out of it killing yet more people.
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Didn't realise a plan is in place yet, tell me more?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52484345
Hangdog Hancock strikes again!
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 3 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 hours, 37 minutes ago
The government have failed every step of the way.
Slow with the lockdown - actually announcing which day the pubs would shut which means a load of people went for one last pizz up.
Cheltenham as mentioned above, and other sporting events planned..
This slow response was, I feel, calculated to talk about doing a lot, but in fact did very little which plays into the herd immunity plan..
We still don’t have mandated checks at airports nor enforced quarantine. There are hundreds of airport hotels available for this to happen.
Ignoring the outcomes from the Cygnus study that outlined the NHS would collapse in the face of a pandemic. Government did nothing in that for 4 years because pursuing Brexit was more important.
With Brexit being a political ideology the government completely ignored the U.K. being invited to a EU wide procurement programme for medical equipment including PPE.
Lying about their being a logistical issue in delivering PPE - the PPE doesn’t exist. There are at this moment hundreds if not thousands of delivery drivers on furlough. Completely crazy to blame logistics - this is the same government that didn’t know “the importance of Dover” when trying to deliver Brexit.
Actually announcing that families of the NHS staff dying doing their jobs will be getting £60k - this is basically hush money.
Not having PPE and resulting in deaths means corporate manslaughter in the business world. Someone in government have done the sums on that £60k
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is that European purchasing going? Why does Germany not have enough PPE and where are the 50,000 ventilators we could have had?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe because PPE isn't reusable and they're running out of stocks after showing the UK how to deal with Covid.
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So the EU procurement is failing
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Depends on what failing means to you. If it means doing better than the UK by a few light years then yes.
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 3 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 hours, 37 minutes ago
The government have failed every step of the way.
Slow with the lockdown - actually announcing which day the pubs would shut which means a load of people went for one last pizz up.
Cheltenham as mentioned above, and other sporting events planned..
This slow response was, I feel, calculated to talk about doing a lot, but in fact did very little which plays into the herd immunity plan..
We still don’t have mandated checks at airports nor enforced quarantine. There are hundreds of airport hotels available for this to happen.
Ignoring the outcomes from the Cygnus study that outlined the NHS would collapse in the face of a pandemic. Government did nothing in that for 4 years because pursuing Brexit was more important.
With Brexit being a political ideology the government completely ignored the U.K. being invited to a EU wide procurement programme for medical equipment including PPE.
Lying about their being a logistical issue in delivering PPE - the PPE doesn’t exist. There are at this moment hundreds if not thousands of delivery drivers on furlough. Completely crazy to blame logistics - this is the same government that didn’t know “the importance of Dover” when trying to deliver Brexit.
Actually announcing that families of the NHS staff dying doing their jobs will be getting £60k - this is basically hush money.
Not having PPE and resulting in deaths means corporate manslaughter in the business world. Someone in government have done the sums on that £60k
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is that European purchasing going? Why does Germany not have enough PPE and where are the 50,000 ventilators we could have had?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe because PPE isn't reusable and they're running out of stocks after showing the UK how to deal with Covid.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So the EU procurement is failing
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Can you break it down and explain how it is failing?
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
Lets all not forget the exit from the lockdown is as shambolic as the entry into it.
Boris fell into the lockdown in the first place and he will stumble out of it killing yet more people.
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Didn't realise a plan is in place yet, tell me more?
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They didn't have a plan for lock down either. They had planned to keep Britain open as per Johnson's speech in February (think it was on the 2nd).
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 3 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 hours, 37 minutes ago
The government have failed every step of the way.
Slow with the lockdown - actually announcing which day the pubs would shut which means a load of people went for one last pizz up.
Cheltenham as mentioned above, and other sporting events planned..
This slow response was, I feel, calculated to talk about doing a lot, but in fact did very little which plays into the herd immunity plan..
We still don’t have mandated checks at airports nor enforced quarantine. There are hundreds of airport hotels available for this to happen.
Ignoring the outcomes from the Cygnus study that outlined the NHS would collapse in the face of a pandemic. Government did nothing in that for 4 years because pursuing Brexit was more important.
With Brexit being a political ideology the government completely ignored the U.K. being invited to a EU wide procurement programme for medical equipment including PPE.
Lying about their being a logistical issue in delivering PPE - the PPE doesn’t exist. There are at this moment hundreds if not thousands of delivery drivers on furlough. Completely crazy to blame logistics - this is the same government that didn’t know “the importance of Dover” when trying to deliver Brexit.
Actually announcing that families of the NHS staff dying doing their jobs will be getting £60k - this is basically hush money.
Not having PPE and resulting in deaths means corporate manslaughter in the business world. Someone in government have done the sums on that £60k
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is that European purchasing going? Why does Germany not have enough PPE and where are the 50,000 ventilators we could have had?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe because PPE isn't reusable and they're running out of stocks after showing the UK how to deal with Covid.
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So the EU procurement is failing
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Unsure how you came to that conclusion
Demand is outstripping supply all over the place.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-52362707
PPS isn't a commodity that can be reused, and given the sheer volume that is required, maintaining stocks is challenging.
However if you have a host of countries procuring PPE in mass numbers, you will be better prepared to maintain stocks.
"Following the Science" - repeat the lie enough and people will believe it.
https://bylinetimes.com/2020/04/17/the-coronavirus-crisis-boris-johnson-said-superman-brexit-britain-would-take-advantage-of-the-pandemic-and-go-its-own-way-seven-weeks-before-lockdown/
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 3 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 hours, 37 minutes ago
The government have failed every step of the way.
Slow with the lockdown - actually announcing which day the pubs would shut which means a load of people went for one last pizz up.
Cheltenham as mentioned above, and other sporting events planned..
This slow response was, I feel, calculated to talk about doing a lot, but in fact did very little which plays into the herd immunity plan..
We still don’t have mandated checks at airports nor enforced quarantine. There are hundreds of airport hotels available for this to happen.
Ignoring the outcomes from the Cygnus study that outlined the NHS would collapse in the face of a pandemic. Government did nothing in that for 4 years because pursuing Brexit was more important.
With Brexit being a political ideology the government completely ignored the U.K. being invited to a EU wide procurement programme for medical equipment including PPE.
Lying about their being a logistical issue in delivering PPE - the PPE doesn’t exist. There are at this moment hundreds if not thousands of delivery drivers on furlough. Completely crazy to blame logistics - this is the same government that didn’t know “the importance of Dover” when trying to deliver Brexit.
Actually announcing that families of the NHS staff dying doing their jobs will be getting £60k - this is basically hush money.
Not having PPE and resulting in deaths means corporate manslaughter in the business world. Someone in government have done the sums on that £60k
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is that European purchasing going? Why does Germany not have enough PPE and where are the 50,000 ventilators we could have had?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe because PPE isn't reusable and they're running out of stocks after showing the UK how to deal with Covid.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So the EU procurement is failing
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If you come to that conclusion for the EU, then the UKs procurement of PPE never got started, indeed was in reverse as there were stores of 30m masks but they could only find 12m of them with the government unwilling to discuss where the remainder had gone.
The UK Gov, in failing to deal with Covid-19 , is the one thing they’ve been successful at!
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To his credit, exploiting unfounded fears of immigrants helped secure the presidency for Trump. Why change a winning formula.
His recent embarrassing ‘performances’ during the Covid19 press briefings has seen his overall rating take a hit.
He’s therefore going back to the tried and trusted rhetoric which helped him win in 2016. It wouldn’t surprise me if it worked again.
I expect the anti-immigration rhetoric will be ramped up the closer it gets to November.
comment by Poolmyfinger - Truth Teller - F#ck China (U12438)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 7 hours, 36 minutes ago
Are you a descendant of a North American Indian If not it is not your country. You are of immigrant descent, like the ones you are trying to keep out of the country..
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I never said I had a problem with immigrants. Only those who come into the US illegally.
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.
Stop making sh!t up. So, yeah, it is MY country.
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A law made up by the people who stole the land from the native americans and mexicans......
nice.
comment by Poolmyfinger - Truth Teller - F#ck China (U12438)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by Poolmyfinger - Truth Teller - F#ck China (U12438)
posted 6 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 8 minutes ago
Weird how people can walk around being an absolute piece of chit and not only be content, but happy with it.
Thank God the whole world isn't like that or life would be miserable.
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If it makes me a piece of chit to not sell out my country, then so be it
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What makes it your country?
You realise that hundreds of thousands of indigenous people were killed to help make it thus..
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Does your little heart also weep for those who were murdered during the crusades or other periods throughout history when lands were being conquered?
Or is it just the United States?
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Whataboutery when he can’t face the truth.. poor Poolmy..
What a cretin.
If you’ve ever seen me wax lyrical about a country let me know.
Weird how the debate shifted away from the facts of the matter quickly when challenged. From complaining that small businesses should get help, not illegal immigrants (they're both getting assistance) to.. I'm not even sure what this is now. It appears to be a weird breed of nationalism without a point or purpose. Is this what Trumpism looks like?
Sigh. I know I'll probably regret this..
Poolmyfinger - you didn't answer my previous question, though it was more one to ask yourself - why do you have an issue with illegal immigrants getting help during a pandemic? For context, economically, it makes a great deal of sense. America will be far worse off if all of the undocumented migrants are on the streets surviving on the welfare system rather than working and contributing to it. Then you have the knock-on effects on all of the businesses they'd be buying stuff from. Also, many of those small businesses you are so keen to see get money no doubt benefit from undocumented migrants - casual labour is what keeps the wheels turning in a number of US states.
I guess my point is - if you love America as much as you claim to - why would you want to hurt it? It seems you are thinking short-term and have been triggered by a headline rather than thinking about the actual impacts of such decisions on the country. Economists understand the impact of providing aid, and aid packages are designed using solid models and projections. They do it because it's a net gain for the economy. Simple as. And before you say 'kick em out' - that would cost billions and be ineffective anyway. As we know from past efforts, and the insanity that is the wall.
Bales
Have you considered the illegal immigrants might have been genetically created in a Wuhan laboratory to be used as a global bioweapon?
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posted on 30/4/20
Well said Sandy, that fact being airbrushed from Poolmy and his fellow citizens minds is a travesty.
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 hours, 37 minutes ago
The government have failed every step of the way.
Slow with the lockdown - actually announcing which day the pubs would shut which means a load of people went for one last pizz up.
Cheltenham as mentioned above, and other sporting events planned..
This slow response was, I feel, calculated to talk about doing a lot, but in fact did very little which plays into the herd immunity plan..
We still don’t have mandated checks at airports nor enforced quarantine. There are hundreds of airport hotels available for this to happen.
Ignoring the outcomes from the Cygnus study that outlined the NHS would collapse in the face of a pandemic. Government did nothing in that for 4 years because pursuing Brexit was more important.
With Brexit being a political ideology the government completely ignored the U.K. being invited to a EU wide procurement programme for medical equipment including PPE.
Lying about their being a logistical issue in delivering PPE - the PPE doesn’t exist. There are at this moment hundreds if not thousands of delivery drivers on furlough. Completely crazy to blame logistics - this is the same government that didn’t know “the importance of Dover” when trying to deliver Brexit.
Actually announcing that families of the NHS staff dying doing their jobs will be getting £60k - this is basically hush money.
Not having PPE and resulting in deaths means corporate manslaughter in the business world. Someone in government have done the sums on that £60k
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is that European purchasing going? Why does Germany not have enough PPE and where are the 50,000 ventilators we could have had?
posted on 30/4/20
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Poolmyfinger - Truth Teller - F#ck China (U12438)
posted 8 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 4 minutes ago
How easy is it to become a citizen?
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Trump has made it virtually impossible. As it panders to his core supporters.
His administration has brought in a raft of policies to prevent undocumented immigrants from citizenship.
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It's a process, and as it should be. If we just granted amnesty to anyone who crossed the border, then the floodgates would open up.
If you meet the criteria, then we will welcome you with open arms.
Nobody is entitled to be a part of the United States except those who are citizens. We also have the right to determine who should be a citizen of the country...and the ones we will welcome are those who actually obey our immigration laws
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Are you a descendant of a North American Indian If not it is not your country. You are of immigrant descent, like the ones you are trying to keep out of the country..
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He is a descendant if the people who stole that nation from Native Americans and Mexicans.
posted on 30/4/20
There is no lockdown.
There has been no lockdown.
There is a minor restriction of movement.
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 hours, 37 minutes ago
The government have failed every step of the way.
Slow with the lockdown - actually announcing which day the pubs would shut which means a load of people went for one last pizz up.
Cheltenham as mentioned above, and other sporting events planned..
This slow response was, I feel, calculated to talk about doing a lot, but in fact did very little which plays into the herd immunity plan..
We still don’t have mandated checks at airports nor enforced quarantine. There are hundreds of airport hotels available for this to happen.
Ignoring the outcomes from the Cygnus study that outlined the NHS would collapse in the face of a pandemic. Government did nothing in that for 4 years because pursuing Brexit was more important.
With Brexit being a political ideology the government completely ignored the U.K. being invited to a EU wide procurement programme for medical equipment including PPE.
Lying about their being a logistical issue in delivering PPE - the PPE doesn’t exist. There are at this moment hundreds if not thousands of delivery drivers on furlough. Completely crazy to blame logistics - this is the same government that didn’t know “the importance of Dover” when trying to deliver Brexit.
Actually announcing that families of the NHS staff dying doing their jobs will be getting £60k - this is basically hush money.
Not having PPE and resulting in deaths means corporate manslaughter in the business world. Someone in government have done the sums on that £60k
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is that European purchasing going? Why does Germany not have enough PPE and where are the 50,000 ventilators we could have had?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe because PPE isn't reusable and they're running out of stocks after showing the UK how to deal with Covid.
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 hours, 37 minutes ago
The government have failed every step of the way.
Slow with the lockdown - actually announcing which day the pubs would shut which means a load of people went for one last pizz up.
Cheltenham as mentioned above, and other sporting events planned..
This slow response was, I feel, calculated to talk about doing a lot, but in fact did very little which plays into the herd immunity plan..
We still don’t have mandated checks at airports nor enforced quarantine. There are hundreds of airport hotels available for this to happen.
Ignoring the outcomes from the Cygnus study that outlined the NHS would collapse in the face of a pandemic. Government did nothing in that for 4 years because pursuing Brexit was more important.
With Brexit being a political ideology the government completely ignored the U.K. being invited to a EU wide procurement programme for medical equipment including PPE.
Lying about their being a logistical issue in delivering PPE - the PPE doesn’t exist. There are at this moment hundreds if not thousands of delivery drivers on furlough. Completely crazy to blame logistics - this is the same government that didn’t know “the importance of Dover” when trying to deliver Brexit.
Actually announcing that families of the NHS staff dying doing their jobs will be getting £60k - this is basically hush money.
Not having PPE and resulting in deaths means corporate manslaughter in the business world. Someone in government have done the sums on that £60k
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is that European purchasing going? Why does Germany not have enough PPE and where are the 50,000 ventilators we could have had?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So Germany using up their supplies of PPE somehow detracts from the UK Gov failings in your mind?
Really?
The UK has the 4th worst deaths per capita due to a covid in the world.
Very obviously keeping the underground and transport around London was a huge mistake.
Same as allowing new arrivals from places like New York, Spain and Italy in unchecked and not subject to mandatory quarantine.
It’s been an absolute clusterfack from the UK government in dealing with it.
posted on 30/4/20
Lets all not forget the exit from the lockdown is as shambolic as the entry into it.
Boris fell into the lockdown in the first place and he will stumble out of it killing yet more people.
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 3 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 hours, 37 minutes ago
The government have failed every step of the way.
Slow with the lockdown - actually announcing which day the pubs would shut which means a load of people went for one last pizz up.
Cheltenham as mentioned above, and other sporting events planned..
This slow response was, I feel, calculated to talk about doing a lot, but in fact did very little which plays into the herd immunity plan..
We still don’t have mandated checks at airports nor enforced quarantine. There are hundreds of airport hotels available for this to happen.
Ignoring the outcomes from the Cygnus study that outlined the NHS would collapse in the face of a pandemic. Government did nothing in that for 4 years because pursuing Brexit was more important.
With Brexit being a political ideology the government completely ignored the U.K. being invited to a EU wide procurement programme for medical equipment including PPE.
Lying about their being a logistical issue in delivering PPE - the PPE doesn’t exist. There are at this moment hundreds if not thousands of delivery drivers on furlough. Completely crazy to blame logistics - this is the same government that didn’t know “the importance of Dover” when trying to deliver Brexit.
Actually announcing that families of the NHS staff dying doing their jobs will be getting £60k - this is basically hush money.
Not having PPE and resulting in deaths means corporate manslaughter in the business world. Someone in government have done the sums on that £60k
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How is that European purchasing going? Why does Germany not have enough PPE and where are the 50,000 ventilators we could have had?
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Maybe because PPE isn't reusable and they're running out of stocks after showing the UK how to deal with Covid.
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So the EU procurement is failing
posted on 30/4/20
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
Lets all not forget the exit from the lockdown is as shambolic as the entry into it.
Boris fell into the lockdown in the first place and he will stumble out of it killing yet more people.
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Didn't realise a plan is in place yet, tell me more?
posted on 30/4/20
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52484345
Hangdog Hancock strikes again!
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 3 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 hours, 37 minutes ago
The government have failed every step of the way.
Slow with the lockdown - actually announcing which day the pubs would shut which means a load of people went for one last pizz up.
Cheltenham as mentioned above, and other sporting events planned..
This slow response was, I feel, calculated to talk about doing a lot, but in fact did very little which plays into the herd immunity plan..
We still don’t have mandated checks at airports nor enforced quarantine. There are hundreds of airport hotels available for this to happen.
Ignoring the outcomes from the Cygnus study that outlined the NHS would collapse in the face of a pandemic. Government did nothing in that for 4 years because pursuing Brexit was more important.
With Brexit being a political ideology the government completely ignored the U.K. being invited to a EU wide procurement programme for medical equipment including PPE.
Lying about their being a logistical issue in delivering PPE - the PPE doesn’t exist. There are at this moment hundreds if not thousands of delivery drivers on furlough. Completely crazy to blame logistics - this is the same government that didn’t know “the importance of Dover” when trying to deliver Brexit.
Actually announcing that families of the NHS staff dying doing their jobs will be getting £60k - this is basically hush money.
Not having PPE and resulting in deaths means corporate manslaughter in the business world. Someone in government have done the sums on that £60k
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How is that European purchasing going? Why does Germany not have enough PPE and where are the 50,000 ventilators we could have had?
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Maybe because PPE isn't reusable and they're running out of stocks after showing the UK how to deal with Covid.
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So the EU procurement is failing
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Depends on what failing means to you. If it means doing better than the UK by a few light years then yes.
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 3 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 hours, 37 minutes ago
The government have failed every step of the way.
Slow with the lockdown - actually announcing which day the pubs would shut which means a load of people went for one last pizz up.
Cheltenham as mentioned above, and other sporting events planned..
This slow response was, I feel, calculated to talk about doing a lot, but in fact did very little which plays into the herd immunity plan..
We still don’t have mandated checks at airports nor enforced quarantine. There are hundreds of airport hotels available for this to happen.
Ignoring the outcomes from the Cygnus study that outlined the NHS would collapse in the face of a pandemic. Government did nothing in that for 4 years because pursuing Brexit was more important.
With Brexit being a political ideology the government completely ignored the U.K. being invited to a EU wide procurement programme for medical equipment including PPE.
Lying about their being a logistical issue in delivering PPE - the PPE doesn’t exist. There are at this moment hundreds if not thousands of delivery drivers on furlough. Completely crazy to blame logistics - this is the same government that didn’t know “the importance of Dover” when trying to deliver Brexit.
Actually announcing that families of the NHS staff dying doing their jobs will be getting £60k - this is basically hush money.
Not having PPE and resulting in deaths means corporate manslaughter in the business world. Someone in government have done the sums on that £60k
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How is that European purchasing going? Why does Germany not have enough PPE and where are the 50,000 ventilators we could have had?
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Maybe because PPE isn't reusable and they're running out of stocks after showing the UK how to deal with Covid.
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So the EU procurement is failing
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Can you break it down and explain how it is failing?
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
Lets all not forget the exit from the lockdown is as shambolic as the entry into it.
Boris fell into the lockdown in the first place and he will stumble out of it killing yet more people.
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Didn't realise a plan is in place yet, tell me more?
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They didn't have a plan for lock down either. They had planned to keep Britain open as per Johnson's speech in February (think it was on the 2nd).
posted on 30/4/20
G R O B.
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 3 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 hours, 37 minutes ago
The government have failed every step of the way.
Slow with the lockdown - actually announcing which day the pubs would shut which means a load of people went for one last pizz up.
Cheltenham as mentioned above, and other sporting events planned..
This slow response was, I feel, calculated to talk about doing a lot, but in fact did very little which plays into the herd immunity plan..
We still don’t have mandated checks at airports nor enforced quarantine. There are hundreds of airport hotels available for this to happen.
Ignoring the outcomes from the Cygnus study that outlined the NHS would collapse in the face of a pandemic. Government did nothing in that for 4 years because pursuing Brexit was more important.
With Brexit being a political ideology the government completely ignored the U.K. being invited to a EU wide procurement programme for medical equipment including PPE.
Lying about their being a logistical issue in delivering PPE - the PPE doesn’t exist. There are at this moment hundreds if not thousands of delivery drivers on furlough. Completely crazy to blame logistics - this is the same government that didn’t know “the importance of Dover” when trying to deliver Brexit.
Actually announcing that families of the NHS staff dying doing their jobs will be getting £60k - this is basically hush money.
Not having PPE and resulting in deaths means corporate manslaughter in the business world. Someone in government have done the sums on that £60k
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How is that European purchasing going? Why does Germany not have enough PPE and where are the 50,000 ventilators we could have had?
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Maybe because PPE isn't reusable and they're running out of stocks after showing the UK how to deal with Covid.
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So the EU procurement is failing
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Unsure how you came to that conclusion
Demand is outstripping supply all over the place.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-52362707
PPS isn't a commodity that can be reused, and given the sheer volume that is required, maintaining stocks is challenging.
However if you have a host of countries procuring PPE in mass numbers, you will be better prepared to maintain stocks.
posted on 30/4/20
"Following the Science" - repeat the lie enough and people will believe it.
https://bylinetimes.com/2020/04/17/the-coronavirus-crisis-boris-johnson-said-superman-brexit-britain-would-take-advantage-of-the-pandemic-and-go-its-own-way-seven-weeks-before-lockdown/
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 3 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 hours, 37 minutes ago
The government have failed every step of the way.
Slow with the lockdown - actually announcing which day the pubs would shut which means a load of people went for one last pizz up.
Cheltenham as mentioned above, and other sporting events planned..
This slow response was, I feel, calculated to talk about doing a lot, but in fact did very little which plays into the herd immunity plan..
We still don’t have mandated checks at airports nor enforced quarantine. There are hundreds of airport hotels available for this to happen.
Ignoring the outcomes from the Cygnus study that outlined the NHS would collapse in the face of a pandemic. Government did nothing in that for 4 years because pursuing Brexit was more important.
With Brexit being a political ideology the government completely ignored the U.K. being invited to a EU wide procurement programme for medical equipment including PPE.
Lying about their being a logistical issue in delivering PPE - the PPE doesn’t exist. There are at this moment hundreds if not thousands of delivery drivers on furlough. Completely crazy to blame logistics - this is the same government that didn’t know “the importance of Dover” when trying to deliver Brexit.
Actually announcing that families of the NHS staff dying doing their jobs will be getting £60k - this is basically hush money.
Not having PPE and resulting in deaths means corporate manslaughter in the business world. Someone in government have done the sums on that £60k
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is that European purchasing going? Why does Germany not have enough PPE and where are the 50,000 ventilators we could have had?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe because PPE isn't reusable and they're running out of stocks after showing the UK how to deal with Covid.
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So the EU procurement is failing
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If you come to that conclusion for the EU, then the UKs procurement of PPE never got started, indeed was in reverse as there were stores of 30m masks but they could only find 12m of them with the government unwilling to discuss where the remainder had gone.
The UK Gov, in failing to deal with Covid-19 , is the one thing they’ve been successful at!
posted on 30/4/20
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posted on 30/4/20
To his credit, exploiting unfounded fears of immigrants helped secure the presidency for Trump. Why change a winning formula.
His recent embarrassing ‘performances’ during the Covid19 press briefings has seen his overall rating take a hit.
He’s therefore going back to the tried and trusted rhetoric which helped him win in 2016. It wouldn’t surprise me if it worked again.
I expect the anti-immigration rhetoric will be ramped up the closer it gets to November.
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Poolmyfinger - Truth Teller - F#ck China (U12438)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 7 hours, 36 minutes ago
Are you a descendant of a North American Indian If not it is not your country. You are of immigrant descent, like the ones you are trying to keep out of the country..
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I never said I had a problem with immigrants. Only those who come into the US illegally.
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.
Stop making sh!t up. So, yeah, it is MY country.
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A law made up by the people who stole the land from the native americans and mexicans......
nice.
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Poolmyfinger - Truth Teller - F#ck China (U12438)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 hours, 50 minutes ago
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posted 6 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 8 minutes ago
Weird how people can walk around being an absolute piece of chit and not only be content, but happy with it.
Thank God the whole world isn't like that or life would be miserable.
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If it makes me a piece of chit to not sell out my country, then so be it
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What makes it your country?
You realise that hundreds of thousands of indigenous people were killed to help make it thus..
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Does your little heart also weep for those who were murdered during the crusades or other periods throughout history when lands were being conquered?
Or is it just the United States?
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Whataboutery when he can’t face the truth.. poor Poolmy..
What a cretin.
If you’ve ever seen me wax lyrical about a country let me know.
posted on 30/4/20
Weird how the debate shifted away from the facts of the matter quickly when challenged. From complaining that small businesses should get help, not illegal immigrants (they're both getting assistance) to.. I'm not even sure what this is now. It appears to be a weird breed of nationalism without a point or purpose. Is this what Trumpism looks like?
Sigh. I know I'll probably regret this..
Poolmyfinger - you didn't answer my previous question, though it was more one to ask yourself - why do you have an issue with illegal immigrants getting help during a pandemic? For context, economically, it makes a great deal of sense. America will be far worse off if all of the undocumented migrants are on the streets surviving on the welfare system rather than working and contributing to it. Then you have the knock-on effects on all of the businesses they'd be buying stuff from. Also, many of those small businesses you are so keen to see get money no doubt benefit from undocumented migrants - casual labour is what keeps the wheels turning in a number of US states.
I guess my point is - if you love America as much as you claim to - why would you want to hurt it? It seems you are thinking short-term and have been triggered by a headline rather than thinking about the actual impacts of such decisions on the country. Economists understand the impact of providing aid, and aid packages are designed using solid models and projections. They do it because it's a net gain for the economy. Simple as. And before you say 'kick em out' - that would cost billions and be ineffective anyway. As we know from past efforts, and the insanity that is the wall.
posted on 1/5/20
Bales
Have you considered the illegal immigrants might have been genetically created in a Wuhan laboratory to be used as a global bioweapon?
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