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comment by VOF - I can see clearly now.... (U17124)
posted 2 minutes ago
Okay - no relegation from the prem and no promotion. I agree and my club is very much affected by that decision, but i'll accept it's part of the moving on.
But the parachute payments that would have gone to the relegated clubs, should go to the top 3 in the championship as compensation. 4th and below should've played better throughout the season.
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Not a bad idea imo.
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Yep good idea, I guess it would need to be evenly distributed by a number of PL clubs though.
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The Prem has £1.6bn in the bank. They could add a bit too.
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There is some serious misconception about parachute payments though, that they benefit the clubs coming down, when the reality is far different. They're given to help clubs with the financial hardship of relegation and to cope with essentially having PL running costs in the Championship. If a club has spent nothing since going up then they're obviously a benefit, but all clubs need to strengthen and most clubs need that cash just to stay afloat. My lot didn't massively overspend on players, butbits still enough to see you lumbered with a vastly higher wage bill and players who have depreciated in value. I initially thought we'd be minted when we came back down but the costs incurred on top of our pre-existing debt means failing to get straight back up has pretty much put us a bit up sh-t creek. Parachute payments are not always the beneficial windfall that many think.
I do agree with some form of compensation to promotion chasing clubs in the event of the worst case scenario, though it has to be sensible as those clubs don't have PL running costs and any huge windfall would give already strong teams a serious financial advantage ahead of a new season. You may as well just promote them as hamstring the rest of the teams in the division.
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Champs ……….. it was a 30 sec idea without any fine tuning of the actual specifics. In principle for me it's an idea, nothing more. Something will need to happen and whatever the solution is, I can see lawyers getting rich. Parachute payments are a bit of an offset for relegated clubs, I get that. They're not a total fix financially.
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I think it'd be a good compromise. Teams would get compensated from the parachute funds available, as there are no relegations from the PL, so it'd be fair I feel for them to get a big sum.
They'd generate x millions in the PL so a big lump of cash whist staying in the championship would reflect the dge they would gain financially from promotion.
It'd be a significant sum as they don't have PL spending but they would've increased their income anyway.
Big amounts for the top 2. The play off teams maybe split the same sum 4 ways.
The Premier League should have made it clear from minute one, that one way or the other, there would be relegation and promotion no matter what.
Whilst there is ambiguity around this matter, as utterly shameful as it may sound, some clubs will look to take advantage of a pandemic which has killed 10s of thousands of people in this country, to maximise their position and finances, by remaining in the Premier League.
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Either all the clubs agree to finish all 38 games or the season is done.
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In reality, 15 need to vote in favour of finishing and it will happen.
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Either all the clubs agree to finish all 38 games or the season is done.
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In reality, 15 need to vote in favour of finishing and it will happen.
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None of the bottom 6 will vote for it if the venues are neutral and who'd blame them.
If the only change was behind closed doors, then no club has any reason to object or vote against the restart (subject to H&S being agreed) Those that did really would be showing themselves to be ruthlessly acting in their own best interests.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Either all the clubs agree to finish all 38 games or the season is done.
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In reality, 15 need to vote in favour of finishing and it will happen.
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None of the bottom 6 will vote for it if the venues are neutral and who'd blame them.
If the only change was behind closed doors, then no club has any reason to object or vote against the restart (subject to H&S being agreed) Those that did really would be showing themselves to be ruthlessly acting in their own best interests.
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Don’t think it’s right 6 teams could potentially dictate the fate of the season.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Either all the clubs agree to finish all 38 games or the season is done.
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In reality, 15 need to vote in favour of finishing and it will happen.
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None of the bottom 6 will vote for it if the venues are neutral and who'd blame them.
If the only change was behind closed doors, then no club has any reason to object or vote against the restart (subject to H&S being agreed) Those that did really would be showing themselves to be ruthlessly acting in their own best interests.
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Don’t think it’s right 6 teams could potentially dictate the fate of the season.
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If that is in the rules then it is right that this could happen.Don't blame those clubs involved blame the rule makers.
If they had rules in place that covered the likes of a pandemic,then there would be no possibilities of an impasse occurring.As the rules would have already been there and agreed by all clubs before a ball was kicked.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Either all the clubs agree to finish all 38 games or the season is done.
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In reality, 15 need to vote in favour of finishing and it will happen.
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None of the bottom 6 will vote for it if the venues are neutral and who'd blame them.
If the only change was behind closed doors, then no club has any reason to object or vote against the restart (subject to H&S being agreed) Those that did really would be showing themselves to be ruthlessly acting in their own best interests.
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Don’t think it’s right 6 teams could potentially dictate the fate of the season.
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Can't believe i'm going to say this as it's almost a defence of them - but i'm not sure we can blame them. Would other fans of other clubs not expect there club, if in the bottom 6 and in danger of relegation, to use whatever it took to stay up? Not saying I agree with it, but I suppose it's understandable. These are businesses as well as football clubs too.
It's one hell of a mess, potentially.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Either all the clubs agree to finish all 38 games or the season is done.
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In reality, 15 need to vote in favour of finishing and it will happen.
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None of the bottom 6 will vote for it if the venues are neutral and who'd blame them.
If the only change was behind closed doors, then no club has any reason to object or vote against the restart (subject to H&S being agreed) Those that did really would be showing themselves to be ruthlessly acting in their own best interests.
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Don’t think it’s right 6 teams could potentially dictate the fate of the season.
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Well, they are the PL rules. Every club knows these as they are setout, written down, confirmed.
Restarting after a pandemic based on neutral venues 2/3rds through a season are not
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Either all the clubs agree to finish all 38 games or the season is done.
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In reality, 15 need to vote in favour of finishing and it will happen.
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None of the bottom 6 will vote for it if the venues are neutral and who'd blame them.
If the only change was behind closed doors, then no club has any reason to object or vote against the restart (subject to H&S being agreed) Those that did really would be showing themselves to be ruthlessly acting in their own best interests.
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Don’t think it’s right 6 teams could potentially dictate the fate of the season.
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Well, they are the PL rules. Every club knows these as they are setout, written down, confirmed.
Restarting after a pandemic based on neutral venues 2/3rds through a season are not
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Why do you think that is dopeyarse?
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Either all the clubs agree to finish all 38 games or the season is done.
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In reality, 15 need to vote in favour of finishing and it will happen.
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None of the bottom 6 will vote for it if the venues are neutral and who'd blame them.
If the only change was behind closed doors, then no club has any reason to object or vote against the restart (subject to H&S being agreed) Those that did really would be showing themselves to be ruthlessly acting in their own best interests.
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Don’t think it’s right 6 teams could potentially dictate the fate of the season.
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The teams currently sitting in European places that could easily slip out of it, would also vote against a restart. They would of course be banking on there being European competitions next season and this current season being completed via points per game or current standings, but either way they would have nothing to lose by voting against a restart.
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Either all the clubs agree to finish all 38 games or the season is done.
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In reality, 15 need to vote in favour of finishing and it will happen.
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None of the bottom 6 will vote for it if the venues are neutral and who'd blame them.
If the only change was behind closed doors, then no club has any reason to object or vote against the restart (subject to H&S being agreed) Those that did really would be showing themselves to be ruthlessly acting in their own best interests.
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Don’t think it’s right 6 teams could potentially dictate the fate of the season.
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The teams currently sitting in European places that could easily slip out of it, would also vote against a restart. They would of course be banking on there being European competitions next season and this current season being completed via points per game or current standings, but either way they would have nothing to lose by voting against a restart.
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If those teams vote against they’d lose their place in Europe
You think the integrity of the game will be intact if 6 teams, 3 of whom will be relegated, vote to void the league and it goes through?
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Either all the clubs agree to finish all 38 games or the season is done.
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In reality, 15 need to vote in favour of finishing and it will happen.
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None of the bottom 6 will vote for it if the venues are neutral and who'd blame them.
If the only change was behind closed doors, then no club has any reason to object or vote against the restart (subject to H&S being agreed) Those that did really would be showing themselves to be ruthlessly acting in their own best interests.
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Don’t think it’s right 6 teams could potentially dictate the fate of the season.
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The teams currently sitting in European places that could easily slip out of it, would also vote against a restart. They would of course be banking on there being European competitions next season and this current season being completed via points per game or current standings, but either way they would have nothing to lose by voting against a restart.
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If those teams vote against they’d lose their place in Europe
You think the integrity of the game will be intact if 6 teams, 3 of whom will be relegated, vote to void the league and it goes through?
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Yes I do,because that is what the rules state.If they decide to play on with 6 clubs or more voting against it then that will be against the rules and all integrity would have gone out of the game.
Taken over by pure greed
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Either all the clubs agree to finish all 38 games or the season is done.
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In reality, 15 need to vote in favour of finishing and it will happen.
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None of the bottom 6 will vote for it if the venues are neutral and who'd blame them.
If the only change was behind closed doors, then no club has any reason to object or vote against the restart (subject to H&S being agreed) Those that did really would be showing themselves to be ruthlessly acting in their own best interests.
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Don’t think it’s right 6 teams could potentially dictate the fate of the season.
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The teams currently sitting in European places that could easily slip out of it, would also vote against a restart. They would of course be banking on there being European competitions next season and this current season being completed via points per game or current standings, but either way they would have nothing to lose by voting against a restart.
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If those teams vote against they’d lose their place in Europe
You think the integrity of the game will be intact if 6 teams, 3 of whom will be relegated, vote to void the league and it goes through?
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Not if the league (and European places) are decided by points per game or current standings. Playing the remaining games for those clubs risks them slipping down the league and losing out on a potential European place, if the season is ended now they get their place in Europe, they would have something to lose by restarting the league.
There is no integrity left in this season, whatever happens. It is impossible to complete it fairly, every possible outcome has somebody feeling unfairly treated.
I have said all along the way to minimize the number of clubs feeling `cheated`,is to null and void, that way there is little argument, if any.
Think intercepts will be lost if you make a decision to sack the whole season off for the real benefit of 3 teams. Arguments against behind closed doors fall flat as well. They’ve had plenty of home games this season where the advantage hasn’t counted. They wouldn’t be in the position they are in the league if it did. Tough, sorry but get on with it.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Either all the clubs agree to finish all 38 games or the season is done.
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In reality, 15 need to vote in favour of finishing and it will happen.
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None of the bottom 6 will vote for it if the venues are neutral and who'd blame them.
If the only change was behind closed doors, then no club has any reason to object or vote against the restart (subject to H&S being agreed) Those that did really would be showing themselves to be ruthlessly acting in their own best interests.
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Don’t think it’s right 6 teams could potentially dictate the fate of the season.
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To be fair it is those 6 clubs who potentially have the most to lose.
If it was only a majority required (11) then would it be fair that those in no threat are able to dictate to those who can be relegated that they must keep playing even under massively changed rules of engagement.
Pretty sure if City where ahead of LFC on goal difference you'd have a different view. Those clubs are reasonably looking after their interests at the moment.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Either all the clubs agree to finish all 38 games or the season is done.
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In reality, 15 need to vote in favour of finishing and it will happen.
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None of the bottom 6 will vote for it if the venues are neutral and who'd blame them.
If the only change was behind closed doors, then no club has any reason to object or vote against the restart (subject to H&S being agreed) Those that did really would be showing themselves to be ruthlessly acting in their own best interests.
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Don’t think it’s right 6 teams could potentially dictate the fate of the season.
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The teams currently sitting in European places that could easily slip out of it, would also vote against a restart. They would of course be banking on there being European competitions next season and this current season being completed via points per game or current standings, but either way they would have nothing to lose by voting against a restart.
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If those teams vote against they’d lose their place in Europe
You think the integrity of the game will be intact if 6 teams, 3 of whom will be relegated, vote to void the league and it goes through?
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Clubs will not be voting to void the league directly. They will be voting on the terms of re-engagement.
If an agreed way forward is not found that satisfies 75% of the league then the EPL decide how the league is resolved.
“If it was only a majority required (11) then would it be fair that those in no threat are able to dictate to those who can be relegated that they must keep playing even under massively changed rules of engagement.”
Is a majority decision not more democratic?
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 14 minutes ago
“If it was only a majority required (11) then would it be fair that those in no threat are able to dictate to those who can be relegated that they must keep playing even under massively changed rules of engagement.”
Is a majority decision not more democratic?
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Absolutely not. That's perverse.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 14 minutes ago
“If it was only a majority required (11) then would it be fair that those in no threat are able to dictate to those who can be relegated that they must keep playing even under massively changed rules of engagement.”
Is a majority decision not more democratic?
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Absolutely not. That's perverse.
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Yet 6 teams deciding the fate of 16 isn’t?
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posted on 11/5/20
comment by VOF - I can see clearly now.... (U17124)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by VOF - I can see clearly now.... (U17124)
posted 2 minutes ago
Okay - no relegation from the prem and no promotion. I agree and my club is very much affected by that decision, but i'll accept it's part of the moving on.
But the parachute payments that would have gone to the relegated clubs, should go to the top 3 in the championship as compensation. 4th and below should've played better throughout the season.
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Not a bad idea imo.
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Yep good idea, I guess it would need to be evenly distributed by a number of PL clubs though.
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The Prem has £1.6bn in the bank. They could add a bit too.
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There is some serious misconception about parachute payments though, that they benefit the clubs coming down, when the reality is far different. They're given to help clubs with the financial hardship of relegation and to cope with essentially having PL running costs in the Championship. If a club has spent nothing since going up then they're obviously a benefit, but all clubs need to strengthen and most clubs need that cash just to stay afloat. My lot didn't massively overspend on players, butbits still enough to see you lumbered with a vastly higher wage bill and players who have depreciated in value. I initially thought we'd be minted when we came back down but the costs incurred on top of our pre-existing debt means failing to get straight back up has pretty much put us a bit up sh-t creek. Parachute payments are not always the beneficial windfall that many think.
I do agree with some form of compensation to promotion chasing clubs in the event of the worst case scenario, though it has to be sensible as those clubs don't have PL running costs and any huge windfall would give already strong teams a serious financial advantage ahead of a new season. You may as well just promote them as hamstring the rest of the teams in the division.
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Champs ……….. it was a 30 sec idea without any fine tuning of the actual specifics. In principle for me it's an idea, nothing more. Something will need to happen and whatever the solution is, I can see lawyers getting rich. Parachute payments are a bit of an offset for relegated clubs, I get that. They're not a total fix financially.
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I think it'd be a good compromise. Teams would get compensated from the parachute funds available, as there are no relegations from the PL, so it'd be fair I feel for them to get a big sum.
They'd generate x millions in the PL so a big lump of cash whist staying in the championship would reflect the dge they would gain financially from promotion.
It'd be a significant sum as they don't have PL spending but they would've increased their income anyway.
Big amounts for the top 2. The play off teams maybe split the same sum 4 ways.
posted on 11/5/20
The Premier League should have made it clear from minute one, that one way or the other, there would be relegation and promotion no matter what.
Whilst there is ambiguity around this matter, as utterly shameful as it may sound, some clubs will look to take advantage of a pandemic which has killed 10s of thousands of people in this country, to maximise their position and finances, by remaining in the Premier League.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Either all the clubs agree to finish all 38 games or the season is done.
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In reality, 15 need to vote in favour of finishing and it will happen.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Either all the clubs agree to finish all 38 games or the season is done.
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In reality, 15 need to vote in favour of finishing and it will happen.
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None of the bottom 6 will vote for it if the venues are neutral and who'd blame them.
If the only change was behind closed doors, then no club has any reason to object or vote against the restart (subject to H&S being agreed) Those that did really would be showing themselves to be ruthlessly acting in their own best interests.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Either all the clubs agree to finish all 38 games or the season is done.
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In reality, 15 need to vote in favour of finishing and it will happen.
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None of the bottom 6 will vote for it if the venues are neutral and who'd blame them.
If the only change was behind closed doors, then no club has any reason to object or vote against the restart (subject to H&S being agreed) Those that did really would be showing themselves to be ruthlessly acting in their own best interests.
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Don’t think it’s right 6 teams could potentially dictate the fate of the season.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Either all the clubs agree to finish all 38 games or the season is done.
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In reality, 15 need to vote in favour of finishing and it will happen.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
None of the bottom 6 will vote for it if the venues are neutral and who'd blame them.
If the only change was behind closed doors, then no club has any reason to object or vote against the restart (subject to H&S being agreed) Those that did really would be showing themselves to be ruthlessly acting in their own best interests.
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Don’t think it’s right 6 teams could potentially dictate the fate of the season.
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If that is in the rules then it is right that this could happen.Don't blame those clubs involved blame the rule makers.
If they had rules in place that covered the likes of a pandemic,then there would be no possibilities of an impasse occurring.As the rules would have already been there and agreed by all clubs before a ball was kicked.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Either all the clubs agree to finish all 38 games or the season is done.
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In reality, 15 need to vote in favour of finishing and it will happen.
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None of the bottom 6 will vote for it if the venues are neutral and who'd blame them.
If the only change was behind closed doors, then no club has any reason to object or vote against the restart (subject to H&S being agreed) Those that did really would be showing themselves to be ruthlessly acting in their own best interests.
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Don’t think it’s right 6 teams could potentially dictate the fate of the season.
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Can't believe i'm going to say this as it's almost a defence of them - but i'm not sure we can blame them. Would other fans of other clubs not expect there club, if in the bottom 6 and in danger of relegation, to use whatever it took to stay up? Not saying I agree with it, but I suppose it's understandable. These are businesses as well as football clubs too.
It's one hell of a mess, potentially.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Either all the clubs agree to finish all 38 games or the season is done.
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In reality, 15 need to vote in favour of finishing and it will happen.
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None of the bottom 6 will vote for it if the venues are neutral and who'd blame them.
If the only change was behind closed doors, then no club has any reason to object or vote against the restart (subject to H&S being agreed) Those that did really would be showing themselves to be ruthlessly acting in their own best interests.
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Don’t think it’s right 6 teams could potentially dictate the fate of the season.
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Well, they are the PL rules. Every club knows these as they are setout, written down, confirmed.
Restarting after a pandemic based on neutral venues 2/3rds through a season are not
posted on 11/5/20
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Either all the clubs agree to finish all 38 games or the season is done.
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In reality, 15 need to vote in favour of finishing and it will happen.
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None of the bottom 6 will vote for it if the venues are neutral and who'd blame them.
If the only change was behind closed doors, then no club has any reason to object or vote against the restart (subject to H&S being agreed) Those that did really would be showing themselves to be ruthlessly acting in their own best interests.
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Don’t think it’s right 6 teams could potentially dictate the fate of the season.
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Well, they are the PL rules. Every club knows these as they are setout, written down, confirmed.
Restarting after a pandemic based on neutral venues 2/3rds through a season are not
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Why do you think that is dopeyarse?
posted on 11/5/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Either all the clubs agree to finish all 38 games or the season is done.
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In reality, 15 need to vote in favour of finishing and it will happen.
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None of the bottom 6 will vote for it if the venues are neutral and who'd blame them.
If the only change was behind closed doors, then no club has any reason to object or vote against the restart (subject to H&S being agreed) Those that did really would be showing themselves to be ruthlessly acting in their own best interests.
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Don’t think it’s right 6 teams could potentially dictate the fate of the season.
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The teams currently sitting in European places that could easily slip out of it, would also vote against a restart. They would of course be banking on there being European competitions next season and this current season being completed via points per game or current standings, but either way they would have nothing to lose by voting against a restart.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Either all the clubs agree to finish all 38 games or the season is done.
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In reality, 15 need to vote in favour of finishing and it will happen.
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None of the bottom 6 will vote for it if the venues are neutral and who'd blame them.
If the only change was behind closed doors, then no club has any reason to object or vote against the restart (subject to H&S being agreed) Those that did really would be showing themselves to be ruthlessly acting in their own best interests.
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Don’t think it’s right 6 teams could potentially dictate the fate of the season.
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The teams currently sitting in European places that could easily slip out of it, would also vote against a restart. They would of course be banking on there being European competitions next season and this current season being completed via points per game or current standings, but either way they would have nothing to lose by voting against a restart.
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If those teams vote against they’d lose their place in Europe
You think the integrity of the game will be intact if 6 teams, 3 of whom will be relegated, vote to void the league and it goes through?
posted on 11/5/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Either all the clubs agree to finish all 38 games or the season is done.
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In reality, 15 need to vote in favour of finishing and it will happen.
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None of the bottom 6 will vote for it if the venues are neutral and who'd blame them.
If the only change was behind closed doors, then no club has any reason to object or vote against the restart (subject to H&S being agreed) Those that did really would be showing themselves to be ruthlessly acting in their own best interests.
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Don’t think it’s right 6 teams could potentially dictate the fate of the season.
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The teams currently sitting in European places that could easily slip out of it, would also vote against a restart. They would of course be banking on there being European competitions next season and this current season being completed via points per game or current standings, but either way they would have nothing to lose by voting against a restart.
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If those teams vote against they’d lose their place in Europe
You think the integrity of the game will be intact if 6 teams, 3 of whom will be relegated, vote to void the league and it goes through?
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Yes I do,because that is what the rules state.If they decide to play on with 6 clubs or more voting against it then that will be against the rules and all integrity would have gone out of the game.
Taken over by pure greed
posted on 11/5/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Either all the clubs agree to finish all 38 games or the season is done.
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In reality, 15 need to vote in favour of finishing and it will happen.
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None of the bottom 6 will vote for it if the venues are neutral and who'd blame them.
If the only change was behind closed doors, then no club has any reason to object or vote against the restart (subject to H&S being agreed) Those that did really would be showing themselves to be ruthlessly acting in their own best interests.
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Don’t think it’s right 6 teams could potentially dictate the fate of the season.
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The teams currently sitting in European places that could easily slip out of it, would also vote against a restart. They would of course be banking on there being European competitions next season and this current season being completed via points per game or current standings, but either way they would have nothing to lose by voting against a restart.
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If those teams vote against they’d lose their place in Europe
You think the integrity of the game will be intact if 6 teams, 3 of whom will be relegated, vote to void the league and it goes through?
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Not if the league (and European places) are decided by points per game or current standings. Playing the remaining games for those clubs risks them slipping down the league and losing out on a potential European place, if the season is ended now they get their place in Europe, they would have something to lose by restarting the league.
There is no integrity left in this season, whatever happens. It is impossible to complete it fairly, every possible outcome has somebody feeling unfairly treated.
I have said all along the way to minimize the number of clubs feeling `cheated`,is to null and void, that way there is little argument, if any.
posted on 11/5/20
Think intercepts will be lost if you make a decision to sack the whole season off for the real benefit of 3 teams. Arguments against behind closed doors fall flat as well. They’ve had plenty of home games this season where the advantage hasn’t counted. They wouldn’t be in the position they are in the league if it did. Tough, sorry but get on with it.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Either all the clubs agree to finish all 38 games or the season is done.
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In reality, 15 need to vote in favour of finishing and it will happen.
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None of the bottom 6 will vote for it if the venues are neutral and who'd blame them.
If the only change was behind closed doors, then no club has any reason to object or vote against the restart (subject to H&S being agreed) Those that did really would be showing themselves to be ruthlessly acting in their own best interests.
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Don’t think it’s right 6 teams could potentially dictate the fate of the season.
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To be fair it is those 6 clubs who potentially have the most to lose.
If it was only a majority required (11) then would it be fair that those in no threat are able to dictate to those who can be relegated that they must keep playing even under massively changed rules of engagement.
Pretty sure if City where ahead of LFC on goal difference you'd have a different view. Those clubs are reasonably looking after their interests at the moment.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Great Teams Put Staff On Furlough (U1308)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Either all the clubs agree to finish all 38 games or the season is done.
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In reality, 15 need to vote in favour of finishing and it will happen.
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None of the bottom 6 will vote for it if the venues are neutral and who'd blame them.
If the only change was behind closed doors, then no club has any reason to object or vote against the restart (subject to H&S being agreed) Those that did really would be showing themselves to be ruthlessly acting in their own best interests.
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Don’t think it’s right 6 teams could potentially dictate the fate of the season.
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The teams currently sitting in European places that could easily slip out of it, would also vote against a restart. They would of course be banking on there being European competitions next season and this current season being completed via points per game or current standings, but either way they would have nothing to lose by voting against a restart.
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If those teams vote against they’d lose their place in Europe
You think the integrity of the game will be intact if 6 teams, 3 of whom will be relegated, vote to void the league and it goes through?
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Clubs will not be voting to void the league directly. They will be voting on the terms of re-engagement.
If an agreed way forward is not found that satisfies 75% of the league then the EPL decide how the league is resolved.
posted on 11/5/20
“If it was only a majority required (11) then would it be fair that those in no threat are able to dictate to those who can be relegated that they must keep playing even under massively changed rules of engagement.”
Is a majority decision not more democratic?
posted on 11/5/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 14 minutes ago
“If it was only a majority required (11) then would it be fair that those in no threat are able to dictate to those who can be relegated that they must keep playing even under massively changed rules of engagement.”
Is a majority decision not more democratic?
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Absolutely not. That's perverse.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 14 minutes ago
“If it was only a majority required (11) then would it be fair that those in no threat are able to dictate to those who can be relegated that they must keep playing even under massively changed rules of engagement.”
Is a majority decision not more democratic?
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Absolutely not. That's perverse.
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Yet 6 teams deciding the fate of 16 isn’t?
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