comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 41 minutes ago
Well deserved.
Pretty glad we have such a massive lead that it makes that decision easy.
Which of course will then precipitate “call it as it is” which means Spurs won’t have european footy - and the stadium will hang like a massive millstone due to loss of Spurs earning potential.
Levy holding out on the naming rights for the stadium will end up costing them too.
Kane will leave
Best thing spurs could do is accept not being in Europe and breach FFP.
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Yeah that huge Europa league money we will be missing out on. If we lose Kane, that means we have sold him, unless he hangs on for 5 years and goes on a free. If we sell him it will be for top dollar - at least 10 times what we would get for winning the Europa - plus our highest wage earner off the books.
So that’s no concern. What is a concern is rushing back into this season when it is unnecessary and potentially causing the disease to spread round the league, meaning that next season is truncated just to get this one finished. That’s going to hit every clubs wallet more. Alternatively we could push all football back to next September (like France) and wait until the infection rate is likely to be very low, thus reducing the risk.
As for clubs potentially going out of business - players could defer wages, other bills could be deferred, the richer clubs could support those less well off, highly paid players could do what Harry Kane has already done and sponsor clubs - lots of ways round this.
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So wait until crwds can come back and then start a new season?
The thing I find odd is how many seem to want this season to be called to start a new one, but do you then not risk the new season should a new wave come along?
This season is already a mess, worst case scenario is they try finish this season, it goes wrong and they have to stop it, still only one season impacted.
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Not going into the whole debate but I think you are missing the point of the argument. Most people who are against this season being finished without fans is because its a change to how the season had played out so far. Arsenal v spurs was played in front of a full crowd baying for an arsdn victory. The return fixture would see spurs disadvantaged without a home support.
It means a season starts one way but ends differently
If a new season is started without fans, then the whole season is played in the same manner and is therefore consistent and fair. No team gains an advantage over another.
I don't see how people don't get this.
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 41 minutes ago
Well deserved.
Pretty glad we have such a massive lead that it makes that decision easy.
Which of course will then precipitate “call it as it is” which means Spurs won’t have european footy - and the stadium will hang like a massive millstone due to loss of Spurs earning potential.
Levy holding out on the naming rights for the stadium will end up costing them too.
Kane will leave
Best thing spurs could do is accept not being in Europe and breach FFP.
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Yeah that huge Europa league money we will be missing out on. If we lose Kane, that means we have sold him, unless he hangs on for 5 years and goes on a free. If we sell him it will be for top dollar - at least 10 times what we would get for winning the Europa - plus our highest wage earner off the books.
So that’s no concern. What is a concern is rushing back into this season when it is unnecessary and potentially causing the disease to spread round the league, meaning that next season is truncated just to get this one finished. That’s going to hit every clubs wallet more. Alternatively we could push all football back to next September (like France) and wait until the infection rate is likely to be very low, thus reducing the risk.
As for clubs potentially going out of business - players could defer wages, other bills could be deferred, the richer clubs could support those less well off, highly paid players could do what Harry Kane has already done and sponsor clubs - lots of ways round this.
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So wait until crwds can come back and then start a new season?
The thing I find odd is how many seem to want this season to be called to start a new one, but do you then not risk the new season should a new wave come along?
This season is already a mess, worst case scenario is they try finish this season, it goes wrong and they have to stop it, still only one season impacted.
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I've made this point numerus times on different threads however it doesn't seem to compute.
So what happens if we pan this season and start again in September. Come December spurs are 10 points clear and we have another outbreak and football stops for 4 months
I would like to see the opinions from spurs fans on this site
Do we keep on cancelling seasons, or maybe just try and complete a season when safe and then start another
Gaffer, you are another one missing the point. Apart from the 2 or 3 on here who do have an agenda against Liverpool, the rest of us have concerns about the constistency a resumption of the season brings.
A new season would not have such issues.
Its more of an a impact on relegation threatened teams (Brighton) instead of the title race.
Again, I don't get what is so hard to comprehend. We get you want the season ended so you get the title "purely", but please try and see the argument against. There is no wrong or right but opinions are allowed.
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 27 seconds ago
Gaffer, you are another one missing the point. Apart from the 2 or 3 on here who do have an agenda against Liverpool, the rest of us have concerns about the constistency a resumption of the season brings.
A new season would not have such issues.
Its more of an a impact on relegation threatened teams (Brighton) instead of the title race.
Again, I don't get what is so hard to comprehend. We get you want the season ended so you get the title "purely", but please try and see the argument against. There is no wrong or right but opinions are allowed.
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nah it's you missing the point, we will be crowned champions no matter what.
I would just like to see some live sport in any form providing its safe for al involved.
I watched my first ever german league game yesterday and enjoyed the experience. I will continue to follow the RB Leipzig games now for the rest of the season.
I enjoy watching football, whether its watching my kid on a Saturday morning or PL games.
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 27 seconds ago
Gaffer, you are another one missing the point. Apart from the 2 or 3 on here who do have an agenda against Liverpool, the rest of us have concerns about the constistency a resumption of the season brings.
A new season would not have such issues.
Its more of an a impact on relegation threatened teams (Brighton) instead of the title race.
Again, I don't get what is so hard to comprehend. We get you want the season ended so you get the title "purely", but please try and see the argument against. There is no wrong or right but opinions are allowed.
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nah it's you missing the point, we will be crowned champions no matter what.
I would just like to see some live sport in any form providing its safe for al involved.
I watched my first ever german league game yesterday and enjoyed the experience. I will continue to follow the RB Leipzig games now for the rest of the season.
I enjoy watching football, whether its watching my kid on a Saturday morning or PL games.
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Yea, you have missed the point.
I want to see football too. My you gets plays and I coach his team.
I'm not suggesting I don't want to see football.. I'm not suggesting you won't be crowned champions... I'm saying, a resumption behind closed doors means it finishes differently to how it started.
A new season would be played fully behind closed doors. Therefore, it's "fair".
Forget Liverpool for a second, Brighton would have to play their toughest home games that were all in the last 10 fixtures they had, without any home fans. They clearly get a disadvantage to their rivals.
I genuinely think you get what I am saying but for some reason can't agree with it. It's not a Liverpool thing.
Again, excuse the typos but you get the jist.
I miss my coaching and boys football so much. He misses it too.
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 41 minutes ago
Well deserved.
Pretty glad we have such a massive lead that it makes that decision easy.
Which of course will then precipitate “call it as it is” which means Spurs won’t have european footy - and the stadium will hang like a massive millstone due to loss of Spurs earning potential.
Levy holding out on the naming rights for the stadium will end up costing them too.
Kane will leave
Best thing spurs could do is accept not being in Europe and breach FFP.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah that huge Europa league money we will be missing out on. If we lose Kane, that means we have sold him, unless he hangs on for 5 years and goes on a free. If we sell him it will be for top dollar - at least 10 times what we would get for winning the Europa - plus our highest wage earner off the books.
So that’s no concern. What is a concern is rushing back into this season when it is unnecessary and potentially causing the disease to spread round the league, meaning that next season is truncated just to get this one finished. That’s going to hit every clubs wallet more. Alternatively we could push all football back to next September (like France) and wait until the infection rate is likely to be very low, thus reducing the risk.
As for clubs potentially going out of business - players could defer wages, other bills could be deferred, the richer clubs could support those less well off, highly paid players could do what Harry Kane has already done and sponsor clubs - lots of ways round this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So wait until crwds can come back and then start a new season?
The thing I find odd is how many seem to want this season to be called to start a new one, but do you then not risk the new season should a new wave come along?
This season is already a mess, worst case scenario is they try finish this season, it goes wrong and they have to stop it, still only one season impacted.
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Not going into the whole debate but I think you are missing the point of the argument. Most people who are against this season being finished without fans is because its a change to how the season had played out so far. Arsenal v spurs was played in front of a full crowd baying for an arsdn victory. The return fixture would see spurs disadvantaged without a home support.
It means a season starts one way but ends differently
If a new season is started without fans, then the whole season is played in the same manner and is therefore consistent and fair. No team gains an advantage over another.
I don't see how people don't get this.
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Oh and teams can use five Subs, when Spurs went to Arsenal they could only use three.
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 27 seconds ago
Gaffer, you are another one missing the point. Apart from the 2 or 3 on here who do have an agenda against Liverpool, the rest of us have concerns about the constistency a resumption of the season brings.
A new season would not have such issues.
Its more of an a impact on relegation threatened teams (Brighton) instead of the title race.
Again, I don't get what is so hard to comprehend. We get you want the season ended so you get the title "purely", but please try and see the argument against. There is no wrong or right but opinions are allowed.
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nah it's you missing the point, we will be crowned champions no matter what.
I would just like to see some live sport in any form providing its safe for al involved.
I watched my first ever german league game yesterday and enjoyed the experience. I will continue to follow the RB Leipzig games now for the rest of the season.
I enjoy watching football, whether its watching my kid on a Saturday morning or PL games.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yea, you have missed the point.
I want to see football too. My you gets plays and I coach his team.
I'm not suggesting I don't want to see football.. I'm not suggesting you won't be crowned champions... I'm saying, a resumption behind closed doors means it finishes differently to how it started.
A new season would be played fully behind closed doors. Therefore, it's "fair".
Forget Liverpool for a second, Brighton would have to play their toughest home games that were all in the last 10 fixtures they had, without any home fans. They clearly get a disadvantage to their rivals.
I genuinely think you get what I am saying but for some reason can't agree with it. It's not a Liverpool thing.
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Come on you’re getting desperate now.
The only difference will be the absence of the crowd and that will effect both teams.
providing they can play at the stadiums they originally intended to It’s still football etc etc etc.
Anyways I’m bored and these threads as they go nowhere so I’ll leave u to it.
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 27 seconds ago
Gaffer, you are another one missing the point. Apart from the 2 or 3 on here who do have an agenda against Liverpool, the rest of us have concerns about the constistency a resumption of the season brings.
A new season would not have such issues.
Its more of an a impact on relegation threatened teams (Brighton) instead of the title race.
Again, I don't get what is so hard to comprehend. We get you want the season ended so you get the title "purely", but please try and see the argument against. There is no wrong or right but opinions are allowed.
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nah it's you missing the point, we will be crowned champions no matter what.
I would just like to see some live sport in any form providing its safe for al involved.
I watched my first ever german league game yesterday and enjoyed the experience. I will continue to follow the RB Leipzig games now for the rest of the season.
I enjoy watching football, whether its watching my kid on a Saturday morning or PL games.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yea, you have missed the point.
I want to see football too. My you gets plays and I coach his team.
I'm not suggesting I don't want to see football.. I'm not suggesting you won't be crowned champions... I'm saying, a resumption behind closed doors means it finishes differently to how it started.
A new season would be played fully behind closed doors. Therefore, it's "fair".
Forget Liverpool for a second, Brighton would have to play their toughest home games that were all in the last 10 fixtures they had, without any home fans. They clearly get a disadvantage to their rivals.
I genuinely think you get what I am saying but for some reason can't agree with it. It's not a Liverpool thing.
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Come on you’re getting desperate now.
The only difference will be the absence of the crowd and that will effect both teams.
providing they can play at the stadiums they originally intended to It’s still football etc etc etc.
Anyways I’m bored and these threads as they go nowhere so I’ll leave u to it.
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So, from what you are saying, home fans have no impact on games at all
The famous Liverpool atmosphere has been the difference in many of your gamea over history.
You have confirmed what I suspected, you want the season finished no matter what so you get a title that was comfirmed mathematically. You aren't willing to understand the other arguments. That's fine with me but don't pretend you care about anything except your team winning the league
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 41 minutes ago
Well deserved.
Pretty glad we have such a massive lead that it makes that decision easy.
Which of course will then precipitate “call it as it is” which means Spurs won’t have european footy - and the stadium will hang like a massive millstone due to loss of Spurs earning potential.
Levy holding out on the naming rights for the stadium will end up costing them too.
Kane will leave
Best thing spurs could do is accept not being in Europe and breach FFP.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah that huge Europa league money we will be missing out on. If we lose Kane, that means we have sold him, unless he hangs on for 5 years and goes on a free. If we sell him it will be for top dollar - at least 10 times what we would get for winning the Europa - plus our highest wage earner off the books.
So that’s no concern. What is a concern is rushing back into this season when it is unnecessary and potentially causing the disease to spread round the league, meaning that next season is truncated just to get this one finished. That’s going to hit every clubs wallet more. Alternatively we could push all football back to next September (like France) and wait until the infection rate is likely to be very low, thus reducing the risk.
As for clubs potentially going out of business - players could defer wages, other bills could be deferred, the richer clubs could support those less well off, highly paid players could do what Harry Kane has already done and sponsor clubs - lots of ways round this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So wait until crwds can come back and then start a new season?
The thing I find odd is how many seem to want this season to be called to start a new one, but do you then not risk the new season should a new wave come along?
This season is already a mess, worst case scenario is they try finish this season, it goes wrong and they have to stop it, still only one season impacted.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not going into the whole debate but I think you are missing the point of the argument. Most people who are against this season being finished without fans is because its a change to how the season had played out so far. Arsenal v spurs was played in front of a full crowd baying for an arsdn victory. The return fixture would see spurs disadvantaged without a home support.
It means a season starts one way but ends differently
If a new season is started without fans, then the whole season is played in the same manner and is therefore consistent and fair. No team gains an advantage over another.
I don't see how people don't get this.
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That's a fair point the pros and cons of not finishing a season against the pros and cons of no fans don't stack up.
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 41 minutes ago
Well deserved.
Pretty glad we have such a massive lead that it makes that decision easy.
Which of course will then precipitate “call it as it is” which means Spurs won’t have european footy - and the stadium will hang like a massive millstone due to loss of Spurs earning potential.
Levy holding out on the naming rights for the stadium will end up costing them too.
Kane will leave
Best thing spurs could do is accept not being in Europe and breach FFP.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah that huge Europa league money we will be missing out on. If we lose Kane, that means we have sold him, unless he hangs on for 5 years and goes on a free. If we sell him it will be for top dollar - at least 10 times what we would get for winning the Europa - plus our highest wage earner off the books.
So that’s no concern. What is a concern is rushing back into this season when it is unnecessary and potentially causing the disease to spread round the league, meaning that next season is truncated just to get this one finished. That’s going to hit every clubs wallet more. Alternatively we could push all football back to next September (like France) and wait until the infection rate is likely to be very low, thus reducing the risk.
As for clubs potentially going out of business - players could defer wages, other bills could be deferred, the richer clubs could support those less well off, highly paid players could do what Harry Kane has already done and sponsor clubs - lots of ways round this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So wait until crwds can come back and then start a new season?
The thing I find odd is how many seem to want this season to be called to start a new one, but do you then not risk the new season should a new wave come along?
This season is already a mess, worst case scenario is they try finish this season, it goes wrong and they have to stop it, still only one season impacted.
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Not going into the whole debate but I think you are missing the point of the argument. Most people who are against this season being finished without fans is because its a change to how the season had played out so far. Arsenal v spurs was played in front of a full crowd baying for an arsdn victory. The return fixture would see spurs disadvantaged without a home support.
It means a season starts one way but ends differently
If a new season is started without fans, then the whole season is played in the same manner and is therefore consistent and fair. No team gains an advantage over another.
I don't see how people don't get this.
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It is common sense, changing the rules part way through and finishing not in accordance with how it started, is so unfair on so many levels, and is why this season`s competition is now worth little more than some kind of footballing parody and faux league championship.
Unfortunately all the Pool fans (and Don the broken record), refuse to accept these facts because it does not fit in with their agendas.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 59 minutes ago
Well deserved.
Pretty glad we have such a massive lead that it makes that decision easy.
Which of course will then precipitate “call it as it is” which means Spurs won’t have european footy - and the stadium will hang like a massive millstone due to loss of Spurs earning potential.
Levy holding out on the naming rights for the stadium will end up costing them too.
Kane will leave
Best thing spurs could do is accept not being in Europe and breach FFP.
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Desperation now.
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Hi Sandy, behind closed doors footy - would you still continue to post on what you classed as something not worth bothering with and pointless?
Or would you become a JA606 version of “old man shouting at clouds”
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It's a football forum, so why wouldn't I post about football, whether behind closed doors or not. Your a strange fella that's for sure.
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So basically you would be bothered and it wouldn’t be pointless..
Cheers Sandy. The sky is —> that way
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 27 seconds ago
Gaffer, you are another one missing the point. Apart from the 2 or 3 on here who do have an agenda against Liverpool, the rest of us have concerns about the constistency a resumption of the season brings.
A new season would not have such issues.
Its more of an a impact on relegation threatened teams (Brighton) instead of the title race.
Again, I don't get what is so hard to comprehend. We get you want the season ended so you get the title "purely", but please try and see the argument against. There is no wrong or right but opinions are allowed.
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nah it's you missing the point, we will be crowned champions no matter what.
I would just like to see some live sport in any form providing its safe for al involved.
I watched my first ever german league game yesterday and enjoyed the experience. I will continue to follow the RB Leipzig games now for the rest of the season.
I enjoy watching football, whether its watching my kid on a Saturday morning or PL games.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yea, you have missed the point.
I want to see football too. My you gets plays and I coach his team.
I'm not suggesting I don't want to see football.. I'm not suggesting you won't be crowned champions... I'm saying, a resumption behind closed doors means it finishes differently to how it started.
A new season would be played fully behind closed doors. Therefore, it's "fair".
Forget Liverpool for a second, Brighton would have to play their toughest home games that were all in the last 10 fixtures they had, without any home fans. They clearly get a disadvantage to their rivals.
I genuinely think you get what I am saying but for some reason can't agree with it. It's not a Liverpool thing.
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Come on you’re getting desperate now.
The only difference will be the absence of the crowd and that will effect both teams.
providing they can play at the stadiums they originally intended to It’s still football etc etc etc.
Anyways I’m bored and these threads as they go nowhere so I’ll leave u to it.
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So, from what you are saying, home fans have no impact on games at all
The famous Liverpool atmosphere has been the difference in many of your gamea over history.
You have confirmed what I suspected, you want the season finished no matter what so you get a title that was comfirmed mathematically. You aren't willing to understand the other arguments. That's fine with me but don't pretend you care about anything except your team winning the league
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I didn’t say the home fans don’t have an impact but too my knowledge teams pretty much have a split of home/away games.
I’ve explained why I want sport back on, don’t think you know me or what I’m thinking because you obviously don’t given that mess above
Bake em.. there is a huge chance that next season starts behind closed doors and ends with fans in the stadium.
Would you prefer :
The whole season behind closed doors?
Fans back in during the season when safe?
Scrap the whole season?
Start next season however that may be, with contingencies set out and agreed upon before a ball is kicked. Everybody knows what eventualities may / can occur and where they stand before the competition begins.
It is quite reasonable to begin the season without fans and finish it with them, as long as all these possible eventualities are agreed upon from the start.
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 25 minutes ago
Bake em.. there is a huge chance that next season starts behind closed doors and ends with fans in the stadium.
Would you prefer :
The whole season behind closed doors?
Fans back in during the season when safe?
Scrap the whole season?
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Fair question and a good spin on the debate to be honest.
Personally, I am not a fan of football behind closed doors. However, if the season starts with no fans then the only fair thing to do would be to finish it in that way. Perhaps they could allow the stadiums to be split 50% if it changes during the season but not all clubs could sell that out. Infact, I'd say only 2 or 3 probably could.
So, my answer is to finish it the same way it started so no fans throughout. I'm only saying that so no team gets an advantage/disadvantage.
Good question though
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 27 seconds ago
Gaffer, you are another one missing the point. Apart from the 2 or 3 on here who do have an agenda against Liverpool, the rest of us have concerns about the constistency a resumption of the season brings.
A new season would not have such issues.
Its more of an a impact on relegation threatened teams (Brighton) instead of the title race.
Again, I don't get what is so hard to comprehend. We get you want the season ended so you get the title "purely", but please try and see the argument against. There is no wrong or right but opinions are allowed.
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nah it's you missing the point, we will be crowned champions no matter what.
I would just like to see some live sport in any form providing its safe for al involved.
I watched my first ever german league game yesterday and enjoyed the experience. I will continue to follow the RB Leipzig games now for the rest of the season.
I enjoy watching football, whether its watching my kid on a Saturday morning or PL games.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yea, you have missed the point.
I want to see football too. My you gets plays and I coach his team.
I'm not suggesting I don't want to see football.. I'm not suggesting you won't be crowned champions... I'm saying, a resumption behind closed doors means it finishes differently to how it started.
A new season would be played fully behind closed doors. Therefore, it's "fair".
Forget Liverpool for a second, Brighton would have to play their toughest home games that were all in the last 10 fixtures they had, without any home fans. They clearly get a disadvantage to their rivals.
I genuinely think you get what I am saying but for some reason can't agree with it. It's not a Liverpool thing.
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Come on you’re getting desperate now.
The only difference will be the absence of the crowd and that will effect both teams.
providing they can play at the stadiums they originally intended to It’s still football etc etc etc.
Anyways I’m bored and these threads as they go nowhere so I’ll leave u to it.
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So, from what you are saying, home fans have no impact on games at all
The famous Liverpool atmosphere has been the difference in many of your gamea over history.
You have confirmed what I suspected, you want the season finished no matter what so you get a title that was comfirmed mathematically. You aren't willing to understand the other arguments. That's fine with me but don't pretend you care about anything except your team winning the league
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I didn’t say the home fans don’t have an impactbut too my knowledge teams pretty much have a split of home/away games.
I’ve explained why I want sport back on, don’t think you know me or what I’m thinking because you obviously don’t given that mess above
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I thought you weren't returning for comments
Look, you get me wrong. I'm not gonna get into arguments over something like this. It's really not my aim.
I feel you are wrong to dismiss the home support aspect. You then say there is a split, I dispute that a 3k fanbase shoved in a corner will come anywhere near ankther 50k fans packing the stadium making the team feel at "home". Home advantage, in my opinion, is mainly an advantage due to the fans. If you disagree then fair enough, I'm not going to argue with you.
You seem very set in your opinion. I am, being honest. So, instead of belittling the other or calling their comment a "mess" let's just agree we have different opinions and move on. You have my motivation in this wrong.
In this case I would be for fans to be back in the stadium even if it’s for midway through the season.
Football is for us, the fans the heartbeat of any and all clubs.
So I cannot agree that it should be continued behind closed when it’s safe for fans to go back into the stadiums.
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 18 seconds ago
In this case I would be for fans to be back in the stadium even if it’s for midway through the season.
Football is for us, the fans the heartbeat of any and all clubs.
So I cannot agree that it should be continued behind closed when it’s safe for fans to go back into the stadiums.
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So, you think ti's fair that you play Everton, United, City etc away with a full house and then the return fixture at Anfield being empty?
Also consider..
When Man Utd were having their stadium redeveloped, they didn’t allow away fans for a while in the 90’s.
Also Spurs playing in two different stadia recently over the course of the season.
Both set some precedent in changing things mid season.
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 18 seconds ago
Also consider..
When Man Utd were having their stadium redeveloped, they didn’t allow away fans for a while in the 90’s.
Also Spurs playing in two different stadia recently over the course of the season.
Both set some precedent in changing things mid season.
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Already been covered in previous articles and dealt with.
What's your answer to my question?
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Gaffer, you are another one missing the point. Apart from the 2 or 3 on here who do have an agenda against Liverpool, the rest of us have concerns about the constistency a resumption of the season brings.
A new season would not have such issues.
Its more of an a impact on relegation threatened teams (Brighton) instead of the title race.
Again, I don't get what is so hard to comprehend. We get you want the season ended so you get the title "purely", but please try and see the argument against. There is no wrong or right but opinions are allowed.
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nah it's you missing the point, we will be crowned champions no matter what.
I would just like to see some live sport in any form providing its safe for al involved.
I watched my first ever german league game yesterday and enjoyed the experience. I will continue to follow the RB Leipzig games now for the rest of the season.
I enjoy watching football, whether its watching my kid on a Saturday morning or PL games.
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Yea, you have missed the point.
I want to see football too. My you gets plays and I coach his team.
I'm not suggesting I don't want to see football.. I'm not suggesting you won't be crowned champions... I'm saying, a resumption behind closed doors means it finishes differently to how it started.
A new season would be played fully behind closed doors. Therefore, it's "fair".
Forget Liverpool for a second, Brighton would have to play their toughest home games that were all in the last 10 fixtures they had, without any home fans. They clearly get a disadvantage to their rivals.
I genuinely think you get what I am saying but for some reason can't agree with it. It's not a Liverpool thing.
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Come on you’re getting desperate now.
The only difference will be the absence of the crowd and that will effect both teams.
providing they can play at the stadiums they originally intended to It’s still football etc etc etc.
Anyways I’m bored and these threads as they go nowhere so I’ll leave u to it.
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So, from what you are saying, home fans have no impact on games at all
The famous Liverpool atmosphere has been the difference in many of your gamea over history.
You have confirmed what I suspected, you want the season finished no matter what so you get a title that was comfirmed mathematically. You aren't willing to understand the other arguments. That's fine with me but don't pretend you care about anything except your team winning the league
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I didn’t say the home fans don’t have an impactbut too my knowledge teams pretty much have a split of home/away games.
I’ve explained why I want sport back on, don’t think you know me or what I’m thinking because you obviously don’t given that mess above
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I thought you weren't returning for comments
Look, you get me wrong. I'm not gonna get into arguments over something like this. It's really not my aim.
I feel you are wrong to dismiss the home support aspect. You then say there is a split, I dispute that a 3k fanbase shoved in a corner will come anywhere near ankther 50k fans packing the stadium making the team feel at "home". Home advantage, in my opinion, is mainly an advantage due to the fans. If you disagree then fair enough, I'm not going to argue with you.
You seem very set in your opinion. I am, being honest. So, instead of belittling the other or calling their comment a "mess" let's just agree we have different opinions and move on. You have my motivation in this wrong.
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Again I didn’t dismiss the home support, I said all teams have a mix of home and away games so all teams will be in the same boat.
Can’t wait for arsenal to declare 60k attendances if they PL starts up
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posted on 17/5/20
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 41 minutes ago
Well deserved.
Pretty glad we have such a massive lead that it makes that decision easy.
Which of course will then precipitate “call it as it is” which means Spurs won’t have european footy - and the stadium will hang like a massive millstone due to loss of Spurs earning potential.
Levy holding out on the naming rights for the stadium will end up costing them too.
Kane will leave
Best thing spurs could do is accept not being in Europe and breach FFP.
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Yeah that huge Europa league money we will be missing out on. If we lose Kane, that means we have sold him, unless he hangs on for 5 years and goes on a free. If we sell him it will be for top dollar - at least 10 times what we would get for winning the Europa - plus our highest wage earner off the books.
So that’s no concern. What is a concern is rushing back into this season when it is unnecessary and potentially causing the disease to spread round the league, meaning that next season is truncated just to get this one finished. That’s going to hit every clubs wallet more. Alternatively we could push all football back to next September (like France) and wait until the infection rate is likely to be very low, thus reducing the risk.
As for clubs potentially going out of business - players could defer wages, other bills could be deferred, the richer clubs could support those less well off, highly paid players could do what Harry Kane has already done and sponsor clubs - lots of ways round this.
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So wait until crwds can come back and then start a new season?
The thing I find odd is how many seem to want this season to be called to start a new one, but do you then not risk the new season should a new wave come along?
This season is already a mess, worst case scenario is they try finish this season, it goes wrong and they have to stop it, still only one season impacted.
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Not going into the whole debate but I think you are missing the point of the argument. Most people who are against this season being finished without fans is because its a change to how the season had played out so far. Arsenal v spurs was played in front of a full crowd baying for an arsdn victory. The return fixture would see spurs disadvantaged without a home support.
It means a season starts one way but ends differently
If a new season is started without fans, then the whole season is played in the same manner and is therefore consistent and fair. No team gains an advantage over another.
I don't see how people don't get this.
posted on 17/5/20
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 41 minutes ago
Well deserved.
Pretty glad we have such a massive lead that it makes that decision easy.
Which of course will then precipitate “call it as it is” which means Spurs won’t have european footy - and the stadium will hang like a massive millstone due to loss of Spurs earning potential.
Levy holding out on the naming rights for the stadium will end up costing them too.
Kane will leave
Best thing spurs could do is accept not being in Europe and breach FFP.
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Yeah that huge Europa league money we will be missing out on. If we lose Kane, that means we have sold him, unless he hangs on for 5 years and goes on a free. If we sell him it will be for top dollar - at least 10 times what we would get for winning the Europa - plus our highest wage earner off the books.
So that’s no concern. What is a concern is rushing back into this season when it is unnecessary and potentially causing the disease to spread round the league, meaning that next season is truncated just to get this one finished. That’s going to hit every clubs wallet more. Alternatively we could push all football back to next September (like France) and wait until the infection rate is likely to be very low, thus reducing the risk.
As for clubs potentially going out of business - players could defer wages, other bills could be deferred, the richer clubs could support those less well off, highly paid players could do what Harry Kane has already done and sponsor clubs - lots of ways round this.
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So wait until crwds can come back and then start a new season?
The thing I find odd is how many seem to want this season to be called to start a new one, but do you then not risk the new season should a new wave come along?
This season is already a mess, worst case scenario is they try finish this season, it goes wrong and they have to stop it, still only one season impacted.
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I've made this point numerus times on different threads however it doesn't seem to compute.
So what happens if we pan this season and start again in September. Come December spurs are 10 points clear and we have another outbreak and football stops for 4 months
I would like to see the opinions from spurs fans on this site
Do we keep on cancelling seasons, or maybe just try and complete a season when safe and then start another
posted on 17/5/20
Gaffer, you are another one missing the point. Apart from the 2 or 3 on here who do have an agenda against Liverpool, the rest of us have concerns about the constistency a resumption of the season brings.
A new season would not have such issues.
Its more of an a impact on relegation threatened teams (Brighton) instead of the title race.
Again, I don't get what is so hard to comprehend. We get you want the season ended so you get the title "purely", but please try and see the argument against. There is no wrong or right but opinions are allowed.
posted on 17/5/20
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 27 seconds ago
Gaffer, you are another one missing the point. Apart from the 2 or 3 on here who do have an agenda against Liverpool, the rest of us have concerns about the constistency a resumption of the season brings.
A new season would not have such issues.
Its more of an a impact on relegation threatened teams (Brighton) instead of the title race.
Again, I don't get what is so hard to comprehend. We get you want the season ended so you get the title "purely", but please try and see the argument against. There is no wrong or right but opinions are allowed.
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nah it's you missing the point, we will be crowned champions no matter what.
I would just like to see some live sport in any form providing its safe for al involved.
I watched my first ever german league game yesterday and enjoyed the experience. I will continue to follow the RB Leipzig games now for the rest of the season.
I enjoy watching football, whether its watching my kid on a Saturday morning or PL games.
posted on 17/5/20
all*
posted on 17/5/20
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 27 seconds ago
Gaffer, you are another one missing the point. Apart from the 2 or 3 on here who do have an agenda against Liverpool, the rest of us have concerns about the constistency a resumption of the season brings.
A new season would not have such issues.
Its more of an a impact on relegation threatened teams (Brighton) instead of the title race.
Again, I don't get what is so hard to comprehend. We get you want the season ended so you get the title "purely", but please try and see the argument against. There is no wrong or right but opinions are allowed.
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nah it's you missing the point, we will be crowned champions no matter what.
I would just like to see some live sport in any form providing its safe for al involved.
I watched my first ever german league game yesterday and enjoyed the experience. I will continue to follow the RB Leipzig games now for the rest of the season.
I enjoy watching football, whether its watching my kid on a Saturday morning or PL games.
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Yea, you have missed the point.
I want to see football too. My you gets plays and I coach his team.
I'm not suggesting I don't want to see football.. I'm not suggesting you won't be crowned champions... I'm saying, a resumption behind closed doors means it finishes differently to how it started.
A new season would be played fully behind closed doors. Therefore, it's "fair".
Forget Liverpool for a second, Brighton would have to play their toughest home games that were all in the last 10 fixtures they had, without any home fans. They clearly get a disadvantage to their rivals.
I genuinely think you get what I am saying but for some reason can't agree with it. It's not a Liverpool thing.
posted on 17/5/20
Again, excuse the typos but you get the jist.
I miss my coaching and boys football so much. He misses it too.
posted on 17/5/20
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 41 minutes ago
Well deserved.
Pretty glad we have such a massive lead that it makes that decision easy.
Which of course will then precipitate “call it as it is” which means Spurs won’t have european footy - and the stadium will hang like a massive millstone due to loss of Spurs earning potential.
Levy holding out on the naming rights for the stadium will end up costing them too.
Kane will leave
Best thing spurs could do is accept not being in Europe and breach FFP.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah that huge Europa league money we will be missing out on. If we lose Kane, that means we have sold him, unless he hangs on for 5 years and goes on a free. If we sell him it will be for top dollar - at least 10 times what we would get for winning the Europa - plus our highest wage earner off the books.
So that’s no concern. What is a concern is rushing back into this season when it is unnecessary and potentially causing the disease to spread round the league, meaning that next season is truncated just to get this one finished. That’s going to hit every clubs wallet more. Alternatively we could push all football back to next September (like France) and wait until the infection rate is likely to be very low, thus reducing the risk.
As for clubs potentially going out of business - players could defer wages, other bills could be deferred, the richer clubs could support those less well off, highly paid players could do what Harry Kane has already done and sponsor clubs - lots of ways round this.
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So wait until crwds can come back and then start a new season?
The thing I find odd is how many seem to want this season to be called to start a new one, but do you then not risk the new season should a new wave come along?
This season is already a mess, worst case scenario is they try finish this season, it goes wrong and they have to stop it, still only one season impacted.
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Not going into the whole debate but I think you are missing the point of the argument. Most people who are against this season being finished without fans is because its a change to how the season had played out so far. Arsenal v spurs was played in front of a full crowd baying for an arsdn victory. The return fixture would see spurs disadvantaged without a home support.
It means a season starts one way but ends differently
If a new season is started without fans, then the whole season is played in the same manner and is therefore consistent and fair. No team gains an advantage over another.
I don't see how people don't get this.
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Oh and teams can use five Subs, when Spurs went to Arsenal they could only use three.
posted on 17/5/20
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 27 seconds ago
Gaffer, you are another one missing the point. Apart from the 2 or 3 on here who do have an agenda against Liverpool, the rest of us have concerns about the constistency a resumption of the season brings.
A new season would not have such issues.
Its more of an a impact on relegation threatened teams (Brighton) instead of the title race.
Again, I don't get what is so hard to comprehend. We get you want the season ended so you get the title "purely", but please try and see the argument against. There is no wrong or right but opinions are allowed.
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nah it's you missing the point, we will be crowned champions no matter what.
I would just like to see some live sport in any form providing its safe for al involved.
I watched my first ever german league game yesterday and enjoyed the experience. I will continue to follow the RB Leipzig games now for the rest of the season.
I enjoy watching football, whether its watching my kid on a Saturday morning or PL games.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yea, you have missed the point.
I want to see football too. My you gets plays and I coach his team.
I'm not suggesting I don't want to see football.. I'm not suggesting you won't be crowned champions... I'm saying, a resumption behind closed doors means it finishes differently to how it started.
A new season would be played fully behind closed doors. Therefore, it's "fair".
Forget Liverpool for a second, Brighton would have to play their toughest home games that were all in the last 10 fixtures they had, without any home fans. They clearly get a disadvantage to their rivals.
I genuinely think you get what I am saying but for some reason can't agree with it. It's not a Liverpool thing.
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Come on you’re getting desperate now.
The only difference will be the absence of the crowd and that will effect both teams.
providing they can play at the stadiums they originally intended to It’s still football etc etc etc.
Anyways I’m bored and these threads as they go nowhere so I’ll leave u to it.
posted on 17/5/20
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 27 seconds ago
Gaffer, you are another one missing the point. Apart from the 2 or 3 on here who do have an agenda against Liverpool, the rest of us have concerns about the constistency a resumption of the season brings.
A new season would not have such issues.
Its more of an a impact on relegation threatened teams (Brighton) instead of the title race.
Again, I don't get what is so hard to comprehend. We get you want the season ended so you get the title "purely", but please try and see the argument against. There is no wrong or right but opinions are allowed.
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nah it's you missing the point, we will be crowned champions no matter what.
I would just like to see some live sport in any form providing its safe for al involved.
I watched my first ever german league game yesterday and enjoyed the experience. I will continue to follow the RB Leipzig games now for the rest of the season.
I enjoy watching football, whether its watching my kid on a Saturday morning or PL games.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yea, you have missed the point.
I want to see football too. My you gets plays and I coach his team.
I'm not suggesting I don't want to see football.. I'm not suggesting you won't be crowned champions... I'm saying, a resumption behind closed doors means it finishes differently to how it started.
A new season would be played fully behind closed doors. Therefore, it's "fair".
Forget Liverpool for a second, Brighton would have to play their toughest home games that were all in the last 10 fixtures they had, without any home fans. They clearly get a disadvantage to their rivals.
I genuinely think you get what I am saying but for some reason can't agree with it. It's not a Liverpool thing.
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Come on you’re getting desperate now.
The only difference will be the absence of the crowd and that will effect both teams.
providing they can play at the stadiums they originally intended to It’s still football etc etc etc.
Anyways I’m bored and these threads as they go nowhere so I’ll leave u to it.
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So, from what you are saying, home fans have no impact on games at all
The famous Liverpool atmosphere has been the difference in many of your gamea over history.
You have confirmed what I suspected, you want the season finished no matter what so you get a title that was comfirmed mathematically. You aren't willing to understand the other arguments. That's fine with me but don't pretend you care about anything except your team winning the league
posted on 17/5/20
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 41 minutes ago
Well deserved.
Pretty glad we have such a massive lead that it makes that decision easy.
Which of course will then precipitate “call it as it is” which means Spurs won’t have european footy - and the stadium will hang like a massive millstone due to loss of Spurs earning potential.
Levy holding out on the naming rights for the stadium will end up costing them too.
Kane will leave
Best thing spurs could do is accept not being in Europe and breach FFP.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah that huge Europa league money we will be missing out on. If we lose Kane, that means we have sold him, unless he hangs on for 5 years and goes on a free. If we sell him it will be for top dollar - at least 10 times what we would get for winning the Europa - plus our highest wage earner off the books.
So that’s no concern. What is a concern is rushing back into this season when it is unnecessary and potentially causing the disease to spread round the league, meaning that next season is truncated just to get this one finished. That’s going to hit every clubs wallet more. Alternatively we could push all football back to next September (like France) and wait until the infection rate is likely to be very low, thus reducing the risk.
As for clubs potentially going out of business - players could defer wages, other bills could be deferred, the richer clubs could support those less well off, highly paid players could do what Harry Kane has already done and sponsor clubs - lots of ways round this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So wait until crwds can come back and then start a new season?
The thing I find odd is how many seem to want this season to be called to start a new one, but do you then not risk the new season should a new wave come along?
This season is already a mess, worst case scenario is they try finish this season, it goes wrong and they have to stop it, still only one season impacted.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not going into the whole debate but I think you are missing the point of the argument. Most people who are against this season being finished without fans is because its a change to how the season had played out so far. Arsenal v spurs was played in front of a full crowd baying for an arsdn victory. The return fixture would see spurs disadvantaged without a home support.
It means a season starts one way but ends differently
If a new season is started without fans, then the whole season is played in the same manner and is therefore consistent and fair. No team gains an advantage over another.
I don't see how people don't get this.
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That's a fair point the pros and cons of not finishing a season against the pros and cons of no fans don't stack up.
posted on 17/5/20
*of not
posted on 17/5/20
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 41 minutes ago
Well deserved.
Pretty glad we have such a massive lead that it makes that decision easy.
Which of course will then precipitate “call it as it is” which means Spurs won’t have european footy - and the stadium will hang like a massive millstone due to loss of Spurs earning potential.
Levy holding out on the naming rights for the stadium will end up costing them too.
Kane will leave
Best thing spurs could do is accept not being in Europe and breach FFP.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah that huge Europa league money we will be missing out on. If we lose Kane, that means we have sold him, unless he hangs on for 5 years and goes on a free. If we sell him it will be for top dollar - at least 10 times what we would get for winning the Europa - plus our highest wage earner off the books.
So that’s no concern. What is a concern is rushing back into this season when it is unnecessary and potentially causing the disease to spread round the league, meaning that next season is truncated just to get this one finished. That’s going to hit every clubs wallet more. Alternatively we could push all football back to next September (like France) and wait until the infection rate is likely to be very low, thus reducing the risk.
As for clubs potentially going out of business - players could defer wages, other bills could be deferred, the richer clubs could support those less well off, highly paid players could do what Harry Kane has already done and sponsor clubs - lots of ways round this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So wait until crwds can come back and then start a new season?
The thing I find odd is how many seem to want this season to be called to start a new one, but do you then not risk the new season should a new wave come along?
This season is already a mess, worst case scenario is they try finish this season, it goes wrong and they have to stop it, still only one season impacted.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not going into the whole debate but I think you are missing the point of the argument. Most people who are against this season being finished without fans is because its a change to how the season had played out so far. Arsenal v spurs was played in front of a full crowd baying for an arsdn victory. The return fixture would see spurs disadvantaged without a home support.
It means a season starts one way but ends differently
If a new season is started without fans, then the whole season is played in the same manner and is therefore consistent and fair. No team gains an advantage over another.
I don't see how people don't get this.
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It is common sense, changing the rules part way through and finishing not in accordance with how it started, is so unfair on so many levels, and is why this season`s competition is now worth little more than some kind of footballing parody and faux league championship.
Unfortunately all the Pool fans (and Don the broken record), refuse to accept these facts because it does not fit in with their agendas.
posted on 17/5/20
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 59 minutes ago
Well deserved.
Pretty glad we have such a massive lead that it makes that decision easy.
Which of course will then precipitate “call it as it is” which means Spurs won’t have european footy - and the stadium will hang like a massive millstone due to loss of Spurs earning potential.
Levy holding out on the naming rights for the stadium will end up costing them too.
Kane will leave
Best thing spurs could do is accept not being in Europe and breach FFP.
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Desperation now.
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Hi Sandy, behind closed doors footy - would you still continue to post on what you classed as something not worth bothering with and pointless?
Or would you become a JA606 version of “old man shouting at clouds”
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It's a football forum, so why wouldn't I post about football, whether behind closed doors or not. Your a strange fella that's for sure.
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So basically you would be bothered and it wouldn’t be pointless..
Cheers Sandy. The sky is —> that way
posted on 17/5/20
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 27 seconds ago
Gaffer, you are another one missing the point. Apart from the 2 or 3 on here who do have an agenda against Liverpool, the rest of us have concerns about the constistency a resumption of the season brings.
A new season would not have such issues.
Its more of an a impact on relegation threatened teams (Brighton) instead of the title race.
Again, I don't get what is so hard to comprehend. We get you want the season ended so you get the title "purely", but please try and see the argument against. There is no wrong or right but opinions are allowed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
nah it's you missing the point, we will be crowned champions no matter what.
I would just like to see some live sport in any form providing its safe for al involved.
I watched my first ever german league game yesterday and enjoyed the experience. I will continue to follow the RB Leipzig games now for the rest of the season.
I enjoy watching football, whether its watching my kid on a Saturday morning or PL games.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yea, you have missed the point.
I want to see football too. My you gets plays and I coach his team.
I'm not suggesting I don't want to see football.. I'm not suggesting you won't be crowned champions... I'm saying, a resumption behind closed doors means it finishes differently to how it started.
A new season would be played fully behind closed doors. Therefore, it's "fair".
Forget Liverpool for a second, Brighton would have to play their toughest home games that were all in the last 10 fixtures they had, without any home fans. They clearly get a disadvantage to their rivals.
I genuinely think you get what I am saying but for some reason can't agree with it. It's not a Liverpool thing.
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Come on you’re getting desperate now.
The only difference will be the absence of the crowd and that will effect both teams.
providing they can play at the stadiums they originally intended to It’s still football etc etc etc.
Anyways I’m bored and these threads as they go nowhere so I’ll leave u to it.
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So, from what you are saying, home fans have no impact on games at all
The famous Liverpool atmosphere has been the difference in many of your gamea over history.
You have confirmed what I suspected, you want the season finished no matter what so you get a title that was comfirmed mathematically. You aren't willing to understand the other arguments. That's fine with me but don't pretend you care about anything except your team winning the league
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I didn’t say the home fans don’t have an impact but too my knowledge teams pretty much have a split of home/away games.
I’ve explained why I want sport back on, don’t think you know me or what I’m thinking because you obviously don’t given that mess above
posted on 17/5/20
Bake em.. there is a huge chance that next season starts behind closed doors and ends with fans in the stadium.
Would you prefer :
The whole season behind closed doors?
Fans back in during the season when safe?
Scrap the whole season?
posted on 17/5/20
Start next season however that may be, with contingencies set out and agreed upon before a ball is kicked. Everybody knows what eventualities may / can occur and where they stand before the competition begins.
It is quite reasonable to begin the season without fans and finish it with them, as long as all these possible eventualities are agreed upon from the start.
posted on 17/5/20
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 25 minutes ago
Bake em.. there is a huge chance that next season starts behind closed doors and ends with fans in the stadium.
Would you prefer :
The whole season behind closed doors?
Fans back in during the season when safe?
Scrap the whole season?
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Fair question and a good spin on the debate to be honest.
Personally, I am not a fan of football behind closed doors. However, if the season starts with no fans then the only fair thing to do would be to finish it in that way. Perhaps they could allow the stadiums to be split 50% if it changes during the season but not all clubs could sell that out. Infact, I'd say only 2 or 3 probably could.
So, my answer is to finish it the same way it started so no fans throughout. I'm only saying that so no team gets an advantage/disadvantage.
Good question though
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Gaffer, you are another one missing the point. Apart from the 2 or 3 on here who do have an agenda against Liverpool, the rest of us have concerns about the constistency a resumption of the season brings.
A new season would not have such issues.
Its more of an a impact on relegation threatened teams (Brighton) instead of the title race.
Again, I don't get what is so hard to comprehend. We get you want the season ended so you get the title "purely", but please try and see the argument against. There is no wrong or right but opinions are allowed.
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nah it's you missing the point, we will be crowned champions no matter what.
I would just like to see some live sport in any form providing its safe for al involved.
I watched my first ever german league game yesterday and enjoyed the experience. I will continue to follow the RB Leipzig games now for the rest of the season.
I enjoy watching football, whether its watching my kid on a Saturday morning or PL games.
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Yea, you have missed the point.
I want to see football too. My you gets plays and I coach his team.
I'm not suggesting I don't want to see football.. I'm not suggesting you won't be crowned champions... I'm saying, a resumption behind closed doors means it finishes differently to how it started.
A new season would be played fully behind closed doors. Therefore, it's "fair".
Forget Liverpool for a second, Brighton would have to play their toughest home games that were all in the last 10 fixtures they had, without any home fans. They clearly get a disadvantage to their rivals.
I genuinely think you get what I am saying but for some reason can't agree with it. It's not a Liverpool thing.
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Come on you’re getting desperate now.
The only difference will be the absence of the crowd and that will effect both teams.
providing they can play at the stadiums they originally intended to It’s still football etc etc etc.
Anyways I’m bored and these threads as they go nowhere so I’ll leave u to it.
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So, from what you are saying, home fans have no impact on games at all
The famous Liverpool atmosphere has been the difference in many of your gamea over history.
You have confirmed what I suspected, you want the season finished no matter what so you get a title that was comfirmed mathematically. You aren't willing to understand the other arguments. That's fine with me but don't pretend you care about anything except your team winning the league
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I didn’t say the home fans don’t have an impactbut too my knowledge teams pretty much have a split of home/away games.
I’ve explained why I want sport back on, don’t think you know me or what I’m thinking because you obviously don’t given that mess above
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I thought you weren't returning for comments
Look, you get me wrong. I'm not gonna get into arguments over something like this. It's really not my aim.
I feel you are wrong to dismiss the home support aspect. You then say there is a split, I dispute that a 3k fanbase shoved in a corner will come anywhere near ankther 50k fans packing the stadium making the team feel at "home". Home advantage, in my opinion, is mainly an advantage due to the fans. If you disagree then fair enough, I'm not going to argue with you.
You seem very set in your opinion. I am, being honest. So, instead of belittling the other or calling their comment a "mess" let's just agree we have different opinions and move on. You have my motivation in this wrong.
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In this case I would be for fans to be back in the stadium even if it’s for midway through the season.
Football is for us, the fans the heartbeat of any and all clubs.
So I cannot agree that it should be continued behind closed when it’s safe for fans to go back into the stadiums.
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comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
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In this case I would be for fans to be back in the stadium even if it’s for midway through the season.
Football is for us, the fans the heartbeat of any and all clubs.
So I cannot agree that it should be continued behind closed when it’s safe for fans to go back into the stadiums.
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So, you think ti's fair that you play Everton, United, City etc away with a full house and then the return fixture at Anfield being empty?
posted on 17/5/20
Also consider..
When Man Utd were having their stadium redeveloped, they didn’t allow away fans for a while in the 90’s.
Also Spurs playing in two different stadia recently over the course of the season.
Both set some precedent in changing things mid season.
posted on 17/5/20
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 18 seconds ago
Also consider..
When Man Utd were having their stadium redeveloped, they didn’t allow away fans for a while in the 90’s.
Also Spurs playing in two different stadia recently over the course of the season.
Both set some precedent in changing things mid season.
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Already been covered in previous articles and dealt with.
What's your answer to my question?
posted on 17/5/20
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
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comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 27 seconds ago
Gaffer, you are another one missing the point. Apart from the 2 or 3 on here who do have an agenda against Liverpool, the rest of us have concerns about the constistency a resumption of the season brings.
A new season would not have such issues.
Its more of an a impact on relegation threatened teams (Brighton) instead of the title race.
Again, I don't get what is so hard to comprehend. We get you want the season ended so you get the title "purely", but please try and see the argument against. There is no wrong or right but opinions are allowed.
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nah it's you missing the point, we will be crowned champions no matter what.
I would just like to see some live sport in any form providing its safe for al involved.
I watched my first ever german league game yesterday and enjoyed the experience. I will continue to follow the RB Leipzig games now for the rest of the season.
I enjoy watching football, whether its watching my kid on a Saturday morning or PL games.
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Yea, you have missed the point.
I want to see football too. My you gets plays and I coach his team.
I'm not suggesting I don't want to see football.. I'm not suggesting you won't be crowned champions... I'm saying, a resumption behind closed doors means it finishes differently to how it started.
A new season would be played fully behind closed doors. Therefore, it's "fair".
Forget Liverpool for a second, Brighton would have to play their toughest home games that were all in the last 10 fixtures they had, without any home fans. They clearly get a disadvantage to their rivals.
I genuinely think you get what I am saying but for some reason can't agree with it. It's not a Liverpool thing.
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Come on you’re getting desperate now.
The only difference will be the absence of the crowd and that will effect both teams.
providing they can play at the stadiums they originally intended to It’s still football etc etc etc.
Anyways I’m bored and these threads as they go nowhere so I’ll leave u to it.
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So, from what you are saying, home fans have no impact on games at all
The famous Liverpool atmosphere has been the difference in many of your gamea over history.
You have confirmed what I suspected, you want the season finished no matter what so you get a title that was comfirmed mathematically. You aren't willing to understand the other arguments. That's fine with me but don't pretend you care about anything except your team winning the league
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I didn’t say the home fans don’t have an impactbut too my knowledge teams pretty much have a split of home/away games.
I’ve explained why I want sport back on, don’t think you know me or what I’m thinking because you obviously don’t given that mess above
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I thought you weren't returning for comments
Look, you get me wrong. I'm not gonna get into arguments over something like this. It's really not my aim.
I feel you are wrong to dismiss the home support aspect. You then say there is a split, I dispute that a 3k fanbase shoved in a corner will come anywhere near ankther 50k fans packing the stadium making the team feel at "home". Home advantage, in my opinion, is mainly an advantage due to the fans. If you disagree then fair enough, I'm not going to argue with you.
You seem very set in your opinion. I am, being honest. So, instead of belittling the other or calling their comment a "mess" let's just agree we have different opinions and move on. You have my motivation in this wrong.
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Again I didn’t dismiss the home support, I said all teams have a mix of home and away games so all teams will be in the same boat.
posted on 17/5/20
Can’t wait for arsenal to declare 60k attendances if they PL starts up
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