comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 12 seconds ago
Only if you don’t follow the comment I’m replying to Fields.
Anyway, yes, I’m saying that there are plenty of people who think Henderson does a wonderful job for Liverpool but don’t think he’s a particularly special player.
Nothing hugely wrong with having that view, is there?
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No, but then again I’d take the opinion of someone who watched him every week & the manager over someone who watches the odd match on the telly, or highlights.
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Well obviously.
But unless you want to shut down any conversation we ever have about our respective club’s players, then the opinion remains valid.
Rivals don’t think he’s anything special. Got you, reads like the club think that.
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No it didn’t . As usual you jumped in without reading it properly and decided to gob off.
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The only players Klopp hasnt replaced since taking ocer are Henderson and Firmino. In fact Henderson has never been dropped for club or country by any manager and is indeed captain.
What do oppo fans think all these managers see in Henderson that people who have never played a season of FA registered football at any level don't?
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He's the typical workhorse midfielder some managers love. That doesn't make him a great player though, decent plus some leadership qualities.
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Lots of managers love him. So just work rate then yeah? Plus some leadership qualities.
I'm surprised that's all it takes to captain an elite club but there you go, you wahl and matth may be onto something.
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He also has a good cross and some other attributes. But a lot of teams have their own version, so he's not desired by opposition fans.
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Fair enough bud.
I find it interesting from Utd fans especially though as I think Henderson is EXACTLY what Utd need. They'll look at McT and I get that but he can't pass gor sh!t and that's not something you learn in your twenties. I look at Fred, a continuity player who doesnt score, assist and is mince in the air and Henderson does everything he does and more. I look at Pogba and just laugh now, from his nauseating celebration to his inability to play in a two to the circus that surrounds him Id have Hendo every day and twice on Sundays. Matic aint even in the conversation.
Tbh I simply think these people dont know the game. Henderson can play various positions, pass long and short and also first time. If you look at his goals and assists the quality within them is as good as any of those mentioned above. He's absolutely woeful in the box at finishing though tbf.
Each to their own but I reckon you can tell those who have played to a half decent level and those that haven't from appraisals on Henderson. Sterling is another gpod one for that. Same types thatquestion why corners dont beat the first man.
Writing 'just my opinion' seems de rigueur atm so there it us.
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McT has one more PL goal with 4 less appearances. Also wins 2 aerials per game to Hendo's 1. Hendo has better pass completion and assists. Fred has better pass completion, but that's it.
When it comes to these types of players, fans always have an extra appreciation for their own, some of it due to loyalty. You want to keep Hendo, we want to keep McT. Neither are top level, but still useful players you want in your squad and wouldn't swap for anyone else's.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
That’s what I’ve just said
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Exactly. What you just said was ridiculous as no one else has said that.
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You said that already.
Misunderstanding on my part, it’s been clarified. Move on.
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Nice one Fields
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 12 seconds ago
Only if you don’t follow the comment I’m replying to Fields.
Anyway, yes, I’m saying that there are plenty of people who think Henderson does a wonderful job for Liverpool but don’t think he’s a particularly special player.
Nothing hugely wrong with having that view, is there?
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No, but then again I’d take the opinion of someone who watched him every week & the manager over someone who watches the odd match on the telly, or highlights.
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Well obviously.
But unless you want to shut down any conversation we ever have about our respective club’s players, then the opinion remains valid.
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I didn’t say it wasn’t invalid.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
Rivals don’t think he’s anything special. Got you, reads like the club think that.
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No it didn’t . As usual you jumped in without reading it properly and decided to gob off.
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Ok then.
Feel better you got that off your chest?
Well no Fields, but by definition any opinion any of us have is not as valuable as that of the manager of their club.
So I’m not really sure why it’s relevant, is all.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
Rivals don’t think he’s anything special. Got you, reads like the club think that.
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No it didn’t . As usual you jumped in without reading it properly and decided to gob off.
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Ok then.
Feel better you got that off your chest?
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No need for this to be a bickering match, best left.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
Rivals don’t think he’s anything special. Got you, reads like the club think that.
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No it didn’t . As usual you jumped in without reading it properly and decided to gob off.
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Ok then.
Feel better you got that off your chest?
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I feel exactly the same other than about five minutes older.
No need for this to be a bickering match, best left
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I nearly choked on my hot dog there.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
Rivals don’t think he’s anything special. Got you, reads like the club think that.
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No it didn’t . As usual you jumped in without reading it properly and decided to gob off.
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Ok then.
Feel better you got that off your chest?
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I feel exactly the same other than about five minutes older.
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Well made your comments rather pointless then didn’t they. Can’t wait to retire and be as mature as you.
Off you pop of you’ve got nothing else to add.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
No need for this to be a bickering match, best left
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I nearly choked on my hot dog there.
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You were in the army weren't you? As if you have a gag reflex.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
Well no Fields, but by definition any opinion any of us have is not as valuable as that of the manager of their club.
So I’m not really sure why it’s relevant, is all.
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It’s the biggest thing you’d point to when disagreeing on opinions about Henderson so of course they are relevant.
This of us who watch him play week in week out see the type of player he is as well.
All I’m doing is disagreeing.
Well made your comments rather pointless then didn’t they
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I am sure this makes sense in your head.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
Well no Fields, but by definition any opinion any of us have is not as valuable as that of the manager of their club.
So I’m not really sure why it’s relevant, is all.
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It’s the biggest thing you’d point to when disagreeing on opinions about Henderson so of course they are relevant.
This of us who watch him play week in week out see the type of player he is as well.
All I’m doing is disagreeing.
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But I could say the same every time we disagree about a United player, couldn’t I?
I’ve always accepted that ultimately, people who watch a player week in, week out will have a better understanding of their abilities.
Although that then doesn’t take into account ability to read the game, bias etc.
All we can do is give our opinion and try to back it up, I suppose. Football would be boring without them.
Winston
The opinion of a few rival fans flies in the face of what the majority are saying though. You could stick a pin in most articles, pundits opinion, opinions of his peers, as well as fans that watch him every week and the manager and the vast majority are saying he’s a great player.
Far from the average workhorse type that’s being described by some.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 11 minutes ago
Winston
The opinion of a few rival fans flies in the face of what the majority are saying though. You could stick a pin in most articles, pundits opinion, opinions of his peers, as well as fans that watch him every week and the manager and the vast majority are saying he’s a great player.
Far from the average workhorse type that’s being described by some.
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Yeh, I can sort of see that.
But the media can be quite fickle and pundits generally just go along with the fashionable opinion.
Anecdotally id say in my experience, most rival fans feel the same way about him.
I’d love to sit in a pub with Keane, Vieira, Ferguson, Wenger, Pep etc. and have a good chat to see what their views are but that may involve some specific dreaming.
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posted on 2/6/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 12 seconds ago
Only if you don’t follow the comment I’m replying to Fields.
Anyway, yes, I’m saying that there are plenty of people who think Henderson does a wonderful job for Liverpool but don’t think he’s a particularly special player.
Nothing hugely wrong with having that view, is there?
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No, but then again I’d take the opinion of someone who watched him every week & the manager over someone who watches the odd match on the telly, or highlights.
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Well obviously.
But unless you want to shut down any conversation we ever have about our respective club’s players, then the opinion remains valid.
posted on 2/6/20
Rivals don’t think he’s anything special. Got you, reads like the club think that.
.......
No it didn’t . As usual you jumped in without reading it properly and decided to gob off.
posted on 2/6/20
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 55 seconds ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
The only players Klopp hasnt replaced since taking ocer are Henderson and Firmino. In fact Henderson has never been dropped for club or country by any manager and is indeed captain.
What do oppo fans think all these managers see in Henderson that people who have never played a season of FA registered football at any level don't?
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He's the typical workhorse midfielder some managers love. That doesn't make him a great player though, decent plus some leadership qualities.
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Lots of managers love him. So just work rate then yeah? Plus some leadership qualities.
I'm surprised that's all it takes to captain an elite club but there you go, you wahl and matth may be onto something.
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He also has a good cross and some other attributes. But a lot of teams have their own version, so he's not desired by opposition fans.
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Fair enough bud.
I find it interesting from Utd fans especially though as I think Henderson is EXACTLY what Utd need. They'll look at McT and I get that but he can't pass gor sh!t and that's not something you learn in your twenties. I look at Fred, a continuity player who doesnt score, assist and is mince in the air and Henderson does everything he does and more. I look at Pogba and just laugh now, from his nauseating celebration to his inability to play in a two to the circus that surrounds him Id have Hendo every day and twice on Sundays. Matic aint even in the conversation.
Tbh I simply think these people dont know the game. Henderson can play various positions, pass long and short and also first time. If you look at his goals and assists the quality within them is as good as any of those mentioned above. He's absolutely woeful in the box at finishing though tbf.
Each to their own but I reckon you can tell those who have played to a half decent level and those that haven't from appraisals on Henderson. Sterling is another gpod one for that. Same types thatquestion why corners dont beat the first man.
Writing 'just my opinion' seems de rigueur atm so there it us.
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McT has one more PL goal with 4 less appearances. Also wins 2 aerials per game to Hendo's 1. Hendo has better pass completion and assists. Fred has better pass completion, but that's it.
When it comes to these types of players, fans always have an extra appreciation for their own, some of it due to loyalty. You want to keep Hendo, we want to keep McT. Neither are top level, but still useful players you want in your squad and wouldn't swap for anyone else's.
posted on 2/6/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
That’s what I’ve just said
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Exactly. What you just said was ridiculous as no one else has said that.
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You said that already.
Misunderstanding on my part, it’s been clarified. Move on.
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Nice one Fields
posted on 2/6/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 12 seconds ago
Only if you don’t follow the comment I’m replying to Fields.
Anyway, yes, I’m saying that there are plenty of people who think Henderson does a wonderful job for Liverpool but don’t think he’s a particularly special player.
Nothing hugely wrong with having that view, is there?
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No, but then again I’d take the opinion of someone who watched him every week & the manager over someone who watches the odd match on the telly, or highlights.
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Well obviously.
But unless you want to shut down any conversation we ever have about our respective club’s players, then the opinion remains valid.
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I didn’t say it wasn’t invalid.
posted on 2/6/20
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
Rivals don’t think he’s anything special. Got you, reads like the club think that.
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No it didn’t . As usual you jumped in without reading it properly and decided to gob off.
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Ok then.
Feel better you got that off your chest?
posted on 2/6/20
Well no Fields, but by definition any opinion any of us have is not as valuable as that of the manager of their club.
So I’m not really sure why it’s relevant, is all.
posted on 2/6/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
Rivals don’t think he’s anything special. Got you, reads like the club think that.
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No it didn’t . As usual you jumped in without reading it properly and decided to gob off.
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Ok then.
Feel better you got that off your chest?
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No need for this to be a bickering match, best left.
posted on 2/6/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
Rivals don’t think he’s anything special. Got you, reads like the club think that.
.......
No it didn’t . As usual you jumped in without reading it properly and decided to gob off.
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Ok then.
Feel better you got that off your chest?
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I feel exactly the same other than about five minutes older.
posted on 2/6/20
No need for this to be a bickering match, best left
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I nearly choked on my hot dog there.
posted on 2/6/20
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
Rivals don’t think he’s anything special. Got you, reads like the club think that.
.......
No it didn’t . As usual you jumped in without reading it properly and decided to gob off.
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Ok then.
Feel better you got that off your chest?
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I feel exactly the same other than about five minutes older.
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Well made your comments rather pointless then didn’t they. Can’t wait to retire and be as mature as you.
Off you pop of you’ve got nothing else to add.
posted on 2/6/20
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
No need for this to be a bickering match, best left
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I nearly choked on my hot dog there.
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You were in the army weren't you? As if you have a gag reflex.
posted on 2/6/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
Well no Fields, but by definition any opinion any of us have is not as valuable as that of the manager of their club.
So I’m not really sure why it’s relevant, is all.
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It’s the biggest thing you’d point to when disagreeing on opinions about Henderson so of course they are relevant.
This of us who watch him play week in week out see the type of player he is as well.
All I’m doing is disagreeing.
posted on 2/6/20
Well made your comments rather pointless then didn’t they
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I am sure this makes sense in your head.
posted on 2/6/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
Well no Fields, but by definition any opinion any of us have is not as valuable as that of the manager of their club.
So I’m not really sure why it’s relevant, is all.
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It’s the biggest thing you’d point to when disagreeing on opinions about Henderson so of course they are relevant.
This of us who watch him play week in week out see the type of player he is as well.
All I’m doing is disagreeing.
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But I could say the same every time we disagree about a United player, couldn’t I?
I’ve always accepted that ultimately, people who watch a player week in, week out will have a better understanding of their abilities.
Although that then doesn’t take into account ability to read the game, bias etc.
All we can do is give our opinion and try to back it up, I suppose. Football would be boring without them.
posted on 2/6/20
Winston
The opinion of a few rival fans flies in the face of what the majority are saying though. You could stick a pin in most articles, pundits opinion, opinions of his peers, as well as fans that watch him every week and the manager and the vast majority are saying he’s a great player.
Far from the average workhorse type that’s being described by some.
posted on 2/6/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 11 minutes ago
Winston
The opinion of a few rival fans flies in the face of what the majority are saying though. You could stick a pin in most articles, pundits opinion, opinions of his peers, as well as fans that watch him every week and the manager and the vast majority are saying he’s a great player.
Far from the average workhorse type that’s being described by some.
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Yeh, I can sort of see that.
But the media can be quite fickle and pundits generally just go along with the fashionable opinion.
Anecdotally id say in my experience, most rival fans feel the same way about him.
I’d love to sit in a pub with Keane, Vieira, Ferguson, Wenger, Pep etc. and have a good chat to see what their views are but that may involve some specific dreaming.
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