Not all police are like that
Not all men are like that
Not all whites are like that.
That kind of thinking is so problematic. It only serves to detract from the ones who are “like that”. The problem is that it is true, not all (insert here) are like that, but as a retort to what has actually happened and how to deal with solving the issue behind why it’s happened, that line of thinking provides no solution whatsoever.
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 1 minute ago
More white people get killed by police on a yearly bases.
Black police officer are more likely to kill a black person in comparison to a white police officer.
Black people kill far more black people in comparison to white people.
The reason black people murder at a far higher rate, commit violent crimes at a far higher rate, and spend more time in prison; isn't because the odd police officer is evil. Its because black children are largely raised in one parent households and are told they will never amount to anything in life by black culture, which promotes hate, racism and a drugs culture.
I feel sorry for black children who are taught to invest their energy in hatred from an early age, and little emphasis is put on education.
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Jesus Christ. Assuming this is satire...
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 46 seconds ago
More white people get killed by police on a yearly bases.
Black police officer are more likely to kill a black person in comparison to a white police officer.
Black people kill far more black people in comparison to white people.
The reason black people murder at a far higher rate, commit violent crimes at a far higher rate, and spend more time in prison; isn't because the odd police officer is evil. Its because black children are largely raised in one parent households and are told they will never amount to anything in life by black culture, which promotes hate, racism and a drugs culture.
I feel sorry for black children who are taught to invest their energy in hatred from an early age, and little emphasis is put on education.
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And where exactly did this culture come from? Overnight? 400 years of oppression does that. You put a bunch of white kids in that same scenario and you’ll get the same outcome. Again another person who’s not looking into this deep enough and talking from a position where it’s from your own mindset and not the average black American.
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Can’t believe that some are actually condoning looting and violence. Anyone who thinks that the answer to an act of violence is violent retribution, is insane. It’s right out of Trump’s school of thought. What about the vast majority of police officers who aren’t racist, and are now getting attacked?
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Unfortunately they’ve got one of their own to thank for that
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That’s a pretty stupid thing to say.
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No it’s true
If a fellow policeman hadn’t needlessly murdered a man over an alleged minor crime, we wouldn’t be having this discussion now
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True, if he hadn’t done it, some other copper would’ve the next day to some other poor fella. I don’t think many people are able to understand why riots and looting are taking place other than coming out with how wrong it is.
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So let’s get this right. You’re saying that because someone doesn’t agree with the violence and looting then they don’t understand why it’s happening? Do you realise what an utterly ridiculous thing that is?
I’ve deleted Ron from the thread. Please don’t respond to his comment anymore.
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not all police are like that
Not all men are like that
Not all whites are like that.
That kind of thinking is so problematic. It only serves to detract from the ones who are “like that”. The problem is that it is true, not all (insert here) are like that, but as a retort to what has actually happened and how to deal with solving the issue behind why it’s happened, that line of thinking provides no solution whatsoever.
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Do you think that rioting and looting will prevent this from happening again?
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Can’t believe that some are actually condoning looting and violence. Anyone who thinks that the answer to an act of violence is violent retribution, is insane. It’s right out of Trump’s school of thought. What about the vast majority of police officers who aren’t racist, and are now getting attacked?
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Unfortunately they’ve got one of their own to thank for that
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That’s a pretty stupid thing to say.
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No it’s true
If a fellow policeman hadn’t needlessly murdered a man over an alleged minor crime, we wouldn’t be having this discussion now
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True, if he hadn’t done it, some other copper would’ve the next day to some other poor fella. I don’t think many people are able to understand why riots and looting are taking place other than coming out with how wrong it is.
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So let’s get this right. You’re saying that because someone doesn’t agree with the violence and looting then they don’t understand why it’s happening? Do you realise what an utterly ridiculous thing that is?
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But why is the topic on looting and rioting? This should be the after thought on because everyone knows it’s not the right thing. The bigger issue is why are they doing it. This type of topic detracts from the reason why it’s happening.
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I’ve deleted Ron from the thread. Please don’t respond to his comment anymore.
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Deleting someone with a different opinion. Cool.
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Can’t believe that some are actually condoning looting and violence. Anyone who thinks that the answer to an act of violence is violent retribution, is insane. It’s right out of Trump’s school of thought. What about the vast majority of police officers who aren’t racist, and are now getting attacked?
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Unfortunately they’ve got one of their own to thank for that
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That’s a pretty stupid thing to say.
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No it’s true
If a fellow policeman hadn’t needlessly murdered a man over an alleged minor crime, we wouldn’t be having this discussion now
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So if a Muslim gets attacked in Bradford, then would you say they’ve got their fellow Muslim to thank for carrying out an attack in London?
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Do you think those police you speak of would be getting attacked right now if another police officer hadn’t murdered a civilian?
Are you serious Terminator?
I’ve got a difference of opinion with you, yet I haven’t deleted you from the thread.
I deleted atom because he wrote a horrible comment that was worthy of deletion.
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comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
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Can’t believe that some are actually condoning looting and violence. Anyone who thinks that the answer to an act of violence is violent retribution, is insane. It’s right out of Trump’s school of thought. What about the vast majority of police officers who aren’t racist, and are now getting attacked?
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Unfortunately they’ve got one of their own to thank for that
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That’s a pretty stupid thing to say.
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No it’s true
If a fellow policeman hadn’t needlessly murdered a man over an alleged minor crime, we wouldn’t be having this discussion now
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True, if he hadn’t done it, some other copper would’ve the next day to some other poor fella. I don’t think many people are able to understand why riots and looting are taking place other than coming out with how wrong it is.
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So let’s get this right. You’re saying that because someone doesn’t agree with the violence and looting then they don’t understand why it’s happening? Do you realise what an utterly ridiculous thing that is?
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But why is the topic on looting and rioting? This should be the after thought on because everyone knows it’s not the right thing. The bigger issue is why are they doing it. This type of topic detracts from the reason why it’s happening.
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The two are intertwined. I understand why it’s happening, I just happen to think it will not solve any of the issues, it’s actually playing right into Trumps hands.
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comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not all police are like that
Not all men are like that
Not all whites are like that.
That kind of thinking is so problematic. It only serves to detract from the ones who are “like that”. The problem is that it is true, not all (insert here) are like that, but as a retort to what has actually happened and how to deal with solving the issue behind why it’s happened, that line of thinking provides no solution whatsoever.
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Do you think that rioting and looting will prevent this from happening again?
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What do you want people to do? Just continue to allow the police to murder innocent citizens.
Looting is stupid as it's hurting the local community, but rioting is the last stand from a society which has been abused by an institutionally racist police.
Imagine if you lived somewhere where the police would actively target you and people of your race. How long can you just sit back and let it happen?
I'm glad this outrage is now all over the global news and highlighting the issues in the US.
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comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
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Can’t believe that some are actually condoning looting and violence. Anyone who thinks that the answer to an act of violence is violent retribution, is insane. It’s right out of Trump’s school of thought. What about the vast majority of police officers who aren’t racist, and are now getting attacked?
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Unfortunately they’ve got one of their own to thank for that
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That’s a pretty stupid thing to say.
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No it’s true
If a fellow policeman hadn’t needlessly murdered a man over an alleged minor crime, we wouldn’t be having this discussion now
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So if a Muslim gets attacked in Bradford, then would you say they’ve got their fellow Muslim to thank for carrying out an attack in London?
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Do you think those police you speak of would be getting attacked right now if another police officer hadn’t murdered a civilian?
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He was clearly a racist who was abusing his position as a police officer to carry out his crimes. It doesn’t make it ok to attack all police officers for being a police officer.
50 has it right.
By focusing on the rioting and looting we are losing sight of the reason behind why this is happening.
The rioting and looting is a reaction to what has happened. Will it solve what has happened? Most probably not, but the reason behind it may just make those who can solve the issue, once and for all, do something.
The problem is those people in power will most likely do nothing. And so it continues. People vent their anger, others focus on that anger, and the reason for that anger is lost. Repeat again and again.
To answer your question terminator, no I don’t think the rioting and looting will prevent this from happening again. But I do understand why rioting and looting and protests and anger are the result of what IS and what HAS happened.
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comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
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Can’t believe that some are actually condoning looting and violence. Anyone who thinks that the answer to an act of violence is violent retribution, is insane. It’s right out of Trump’s school of thought. What about the vast majority of police officers who aren’t racist, and are now getting attacked?
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Unfortunately they’ve got one of their own to thank for that
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That’s a pretty stupid thing to say.
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No it’s true
If a fellow policeman hadn’t needlessly murdered a man over an alleged minor crime, we wouldn’t be having this discussion now
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True, if he hadn’t done it, some other copper would’ve the next day to some other poor fella. I don’t think many people are able to understand why riots and looting are taking place other than coming out with how wrong it is.
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So let’s get this right. You’re saying that because someone doesn’t agree with the violence and looting then they don’t understand why it’s happening? Do you realise what an utterly ridiculous thing that is?
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But why is the topic on looting and rioting? This should be the after thought on because everyone knows it’s not the right thing. The bigger issue is why are they doing it. This type of topic detracts from the reason why it’s happening.
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The two are intertwined. I understand why it’s happening, I just happen to think it will not solve any of the issues, it’s actually playing right into Trumps hands.
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If this doesn’t solve anything, then it’s never going to stop. 2 years or so down the line, similar situation will break out. You say it’ll play into Trump’s hand but other than threatening, he’s got this situation so out of control. As bad as it is, you need riots and violence to answer against such oppression. Peaceful protesting has had its time. You can either get the government to acknowledge your demands or you end up with a war with your people. I think America isn’t stupid enough for the latter option.
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Can’t believe that some are actually condoning looting and violence. Anyone who thinks that the answer to an act of violence is violent retribution, is insane. It’s right out of Trump’s school of thought. What about the vast majority of police officers who aren’t racist, and are now getting attacked?
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Unfortunately they’ve got one of their own to thank for that
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That’s a pretty stupid thing to say.
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No it’s true
If a fellow policeman hadn’t needlessly murdered a man over an alleged minor crime, we wouldn’t be having this discussion now
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So if a Muslim gets attacked in Bradford, then would you say they’ve got their fellow Muslim to thank for carrying out an attack in London?
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Do you think those police you speak of would be getting attacked right now if another police officer hadn’t murdered a civilian?
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He was clearly a racist who was abusing his position as a police officer to carry out his crimes. It doesn’t make it ok to attack all police officers for being a police officer.
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I know, I never at any stage said it was ok
I simply said it’s because of the actions of another police officer that they’re now in this position
You dont want to pi s off the silent majority btw, thats what sustained looting will do
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 1 minute ago
50 has it right.
By focusing on the rioting and looting we are losing sight of the reason behind why this is happening.
The rioting and looting is a reaction to what has happened. Will it solve what has happened? Most probably not, but the reason behind it may just make those who can solve the issue, once and for all, do something.
The problem is those people in power will most likely do nothing. And so it continues. People vent their anger, others focus on that anger, and the reason for that anger is lost. Repeat again and again.
To answer your question terminator, no I don’t think the rioting and looting will prevent this from happening again. But I do understand why rioting and looting and protests and anger are the result of what IS and what HAS happened.
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I understand exactly why it’s happening. You’ve actually agreed with my point here, that those in power won’t change anything as a result of violent protest, they’re actually using it to raise the level of violence themselves so that they can remove civil liberties even more.
This silent majority - what will they do when they are psssd off?
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This silent majority - what will they do when they are psssd off?
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vote trump back in
Yeah, I think we’re not actually different in our view Terminator - in the sense of what we want the end goal to be.
We just perhaps differ somewhat in how best to reach that end goal.
I understand where you are coming from, but I also understand the frustration and anger of those who are denied equal opportunity and equal right to live in a society that we are all expected to adhere to.
Trevor Noah calls it a contract. An unwritten contract in which we all abide - to live in society and benefit and even suffer from that society, but in an equal measure. When it becomes apparent that one group, who abides to that “contract of society” isn’t treated equally, then that frustration must become unpalatable. It must become unfair. Unjust.
And when that happens, what can they do?
And when it happens again. And again. And again.
What can they do?
Then trump has one more term.
What then?
probably his replacement..
So if a Muslim gets attacked in Bradford, then would you say they’ve got their fellow Muslim to thank for carrying out an attack in London
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If that Muslim was a position of power which they then abused in that attack, and those Muslims in Bradford were part of that same power structure then yes
i dont understand the question tbh, i was merely saying this wont suddenly get biden into power
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posted on 2/6/20
Not all police are like that
Not all men are like that
Not all whites are like that.
That kind of thinking is so problematic. It only serves to detract from the ones who are “like that”. The problem is that it is true, not all (insert here) are like that, but as a retort to what has actually happened and how to deal with solving the issue behind why it’s happened, that line of thinking provides no solution whatsoever.
posted on 2/6/20
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 1 minute ago
More white people get killed by police on a yearly bases.
Black police officer are more likely to kill a black person in comparison to a white police officer.
Black people kill far more black people in comparison to white people.
The reason black people murder at a far higher rate, commit violent crimes at a far higher rate, and spend more time in prison; isn't because the odd police officer is evil. Its because black children are largely raised in one parent households and are told they will never amount to anything in life by black culture, which promotes hate, racism and a drugs culture.
I feel sorry for black children who are taught to invest their energy in hatred from an early age, and little emphasis is put on education.
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Jesus Christ. Assuming this is satire...
posted on 2/6/20
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 46 seconds ago
More white people get killed by police on a yearly bases.
Black police officer are more likely to kill a black person in comparison to a white police officer.
Black people kill far more black people in comparison to white people.
The reason black people murder at a far higher rate, commit violent crimes at a far higher rate, and spend more time in prison; isn't because the odd police officer is evil. Its because black children are largely raised in one parent households and are told they will never amount to anything in life by black culture, which promotes hate, racism and a drugs culture.
I feel sorry for black children who are taught to invest their energy in hatred from an early age, and little emphasis is put on education.
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And where exactly did this culture come from? Overnight? 400 years of oppression does that. You put a bunch of white kids in that same scenario and you’ll get the same outcome. Again another person who’s not looking into this deep enough and talking from a position where it’s from your own mindset and not the average black American.
posted on 2/6/20
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posted 2 minutes ago
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posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 2 minutes ago
Can’t believe that some are actually condoning looting and violence. Anyone who thinks that the answer to an act of violence is violent retribution, is insane. It’s right out of Trump’s school of thought. What about the vast majority of police officers who aren’t racist, and are now getting attacked?
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Unfortunately they’ve got one of their own to thank for that
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That’s a pretty stupid thing to say.
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No it’s true
If a fellow policeman hadn’t needlessly murdered a man over an alleged minor crime, we wouldn’t be having this discussion now
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True, if he hadn’t done it, some other copper would’ve the next day to some other poor fella. I don’t think many people are able to understand why riots and looting are taking place other than coming out with how wrong it is.
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So let’s get this right. You’re saying that because someone doesn’t agree with the violence and looting then they don’t understand why it’s happening? Do you realise what an utterly ridiculous thing that is?
posted on 2/6/20
I’ve deleted Ron from the thread. Please don’t respond to his comment anymore.
posted on 2/6/20
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not all police are like that
Not all men are like that
Not all whites are like that.
That kind of thinking is so problematic. It only serves to detract from the ones who are “like that”. The problem is that it is true, not all (insert here) are like that, but as a retort to what has actually happened and how to deal with solving the issue behind why it’s happened, that line of thinking provides no solution whatsoever.
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Do you think that rioting and looting will prevent this from happening again?
posted on 2/6/20
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comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 2 minutes ago
Can’t believe that some are actually condoning looting and violence. Anyone who thinks that the answer to an act of violence is violent retribution, is insane. It’s right out of Trump’s school of thought. What about the vast majority of police officers who aren’t racist, and are now getting attacked?
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Unfortunately they’ve got one of their own to thank for that
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That’s a pretty stupid thing to say.
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No it’s true
If a fellow policeman hadn’t needlessly murdered a man over an alleged minor crime, we wouldn’t be having this discussion now
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True, if he hadn’t done it, some other copper would’ve the next day to some other poor fella. I don’t think many people are able to understand why riots and looting are taking place other than coming out with how wrong it is.
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So let’s get this right. You’re saying that because someone doesn’t agree with the violence and looting then they don’t understand why it’s happening? Do you realise what an utterly ridiculous thing that is?
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But why is the topic on looting and rioting? This should be the after thought on because everyone knows it’s not the right thing. The bigger issue is why are they doing it. This type of topic detracts from the reason why it’s happening.
posted on 2/6/20
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posted 1 minute ago
I’ve deleted Ron from the thread. Please don’t respond to his comment anymore.
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Deleting someone with a different opinion. Cool.
posted on 2/6/20
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posted 2 minutes ago
Can’t believe that some are actually condoning looting and violence. Anyone who thinks that the answer to an act of violence is violent retribution, is insane. It’s right out of Trump’s school of thought. What about the vast majority of police officers who aren’t racist, and are now getting attacked?
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Unfortunately they’ve got one of their own to thank for that
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That’s a pretty stupid thing to say.
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No it’s true
If a fellow policeman hadn’t needlessly murdered a man over an alleged minor crime, we wouldn’t be having this discussion now
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So if a Muslim gets attacked in Bradford, then would you say they’ve got their fellow Muslim to thank for carrying out an attack in London?
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Do you think those police you speak of would be getting attacked right now if another police officer hadn’t murdered a civilian?
posted on 2/6/20
Are you serious Terminator?
I’ve got a difference of opinion with you, yet I haven’t deleted you from the thread.
I deleted atom because he wrote a horrible comment that was worthy of deletion.
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Can’t believe that some are actually condoning looting and violence. Anyone who thinks that the answer to an act of violence is violent retribution, is insane. It’s right out of Trump’s school of thought. What about the vast majority of police officers who aren’t racist, and are now getting attacked?
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Unfortunately they’ve got one of their own to thank for that
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That’s a pretty stupid thing to say.
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No it’s true
If a fellow policeman hadn’t needlessly murdered a man over an alleged minor crime, we wouldn’t be having this discussion now
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True, if he hadn’t done it, some other copper would’ve the next day to some other poor fella. I don’t think many people are able to understand why riots and looting are taking place other than coming out with how wrong it is.
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So let’s get this right. You’re saying that because someone doesn’t agree with the violence and looting then they don’t understand why it’s happening? Do you realise what an utterly ridiculous thing that is?
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But why is the topic on looting and rioting? This should be the after thought on because everyone knows it’s not the right thing. The bigger issue is why are they doing it. This type of topic detracts from the reason why it’s happening.
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The two are intertwined. I understand why it’s happening, I just happen to think it will not solve any of the issues, it’s actually playing right into Trumps hands.
posted on 2/6/20
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not all police are like that
Not all men are like that
Not all whites are like that.
That kind of thinking is so problematic. It only serves to detract from the ones who are “like that”. The problem is that it is true, not all (insert here) are like that, but as a retort to what has actually happened and how to deal with solving the issue behind why it’s happened, that line of thinking provides no solution whatsoever.
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Do you think that rioting and looting will prevent this from happening again?
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What do you want people to do? Just continue to allow the police to murder innocent citizens.
Looting is stupid as it's hurting the local community, but rioting is the last stand from a society which has been abused by an institutionally racist police.
Imagine if you lived somewhere where the police would actively target you and people of your race. How long can you just sit back and let it happen?
I'm glad this outrage is now all over the global news and highlighting the issues in the US.
posted on 2/6/20
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comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 2 minutes ago
Can’t believe that some are actually condoning looting and violence. Anyone who thinks that the answer to an act of violence is violent retribution, is insane. It’s right out of Trump’s school of thought. What about the vast majority of police officers who aren’t racist, and are now getting attacked?
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Unfortunately they’ve got one of their own to thank for that
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That’s a pretty stupid thing to say.
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No it’s true
If a fellow policeman hadn’t needlessly murdered a man over an alleged minor crime, we wouldn’t be having this discussion now
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So if a Muslim gets attacked in Bradford, then would you say they’ve got their fellow Muslim to thank for carrying out an attack in London?
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Do you think those police you speak of would be getting attacked right now if another police officer hadn’t murdered a civilian?
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He was clearly a racist who was abusing his position as a police officer to carry out his crimes. It doesn’t make it ok to attack all police officers for being a police officer.
posted on 2/6/20
50 has it right.
By focusing on the rioting and looting we are losing sight of the reason behind why this is happening.
The rioting and looting is a reaction to what has happened. Will it solve what has happened? Most probably not, but the reason behind it may just make those who can solve the issue, once and for all, do something.
The problem is those people in power will most likely do nothing. And so it continues. People vent their anger, others focus on that anger, and the reason for that anger is lost. Repeat again and again.
To answer your question terminator, no I don’t think the rioting and looting will prevent this from happening again. But I do understand why rioting and looting and protests and anger are the result of what IS and what HAS happened.
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Can’t believe that some are actually condoning looting and violence. Anyone who thinks that the answer to an act of violence is violent retribution, is insane. It’s right out of Trump’s school of thought. What about the vast majority of police officers who aren’t racist, and are now getting attacked?
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Unfortunately they’ve got one of their own to thank for that
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That’s a pretty stupid thing to say.
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No it’s true
If a fellow policeman hadn’t needlessly murdered a man over an alleged minor crime, we wouldn’t be having this discussion now
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True, if he hadn’t done it, some other copper would’ve the next day to some other poor fella. I don’t think many people are able to understand why riots and looting are taking place other than coming out with how wrong it is.
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So let’s get this right. You’re saying that because someone doesn’t agree with the violence and looting then they don’t understand why it’s happening? Do you realise what an utterly ridiculous thing that is?
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But why is the topic on looting and rioting? This should be the after thought on because everyone knows it’s not the right thing. The bigger issue is why are they doing it. This type of topic detracts from the reason why it’s happening.
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The two are intertwined. I understand why it’s happening, I just happen to think it will not solve any of the issues, it’s actually playing right into Trumps hands.
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If this doesn’t solve anything, then it’s never going to stop. 2 years or so down the line, similar situation will break out. You say it’ll play into Trump’s hand but other than threatening, he’s got this situation so out of control. As bad as it is, you need riots and violence to answer against such oppression. Peaceful protesting has had its time. You can either get the government to acknowledge your demands or you end up with a war with your people. I think America isn’t stupid enough for the latter option.
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Can’t believe that some are actually condoning looting and violence. Anyone who thinks that the answer to an act of violence is violent retribution, is insane. It’s right out of Trump’s school of thought. What about the vast majority of police officers who aren’t racist, and are now getting attacked?
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Unfortunately they’ve got one of their own to thank for that
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That’s a pretty stupid thing to say.
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No it’s true
If a fellow policeman hadn’t needlessly murdered a man over an alleged minor crime, we wouldn’t be having this discussion now
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So if a Muslim gets attacked in Bradford, then would you say they’ve got their fellow Muslim to thank for carrying out an attack in London?
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Do you think those police you speak of would be getting attacked right now if another police officer hadn’t murdered a civilian?
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He was clearly a racist who was abusing his position as a police officer to carry out his crimes. It doesn’t make it ok to attack all police officers for being a police officer.
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I know, I never at any stage said it was ok
I simply said it’s because of the actions of another police officer that they’re now in this position
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You dont want to pi s off the silent majority btw, thats what sustained looting will do
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50 has it right.
By focusing on the rioting and looting we are losing sight of the reason behind why this is happening.
The rioting and looting is a reaction to what has happened. Will it solve what has happened? Most probably not, but the reason behind it may just make those who can solve the issue, once and for all, do something.
The problem is those people in power will most likely do nothing. And so it continues. People vent their anger, others focus on that anger, and the reason for that anger is lost. Repeat again and again.
To answer your question terminator, no I don’t think the rioting and looting will prevent this from happening again. But I do understand why rioting and looting and protests and anger are the result of what IS and what HAS happened.
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I understand exactly why it’s happening. You’ve actually agreed with my point here, that those in power won’t change anything as a result of violent protest, they’re actually using it to raise the level of violence themselves so that they can remove civil liberties even more.
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This silent majority - what will they do when they are psssd off?
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This silent majority - what will they do when they are psssd off?
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vote trump back in
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Yeah, I think we’re not actually different in our view Terminator - in the sense of what we want the end goal to be.
We just perhaps differ somewhat in how best to reach that end goal.
I understand where you are coming from, but I also understand the frustration and anger of those who are denied equal opportunity and equal right to live in a society that we are all expected to adhere to.
Trevor Noah calls it a contract. An unwritten contract in which we all abide - to live in society and benefit and even suffer from that society, but in an equal measure. When it becomes apparent that one group, who abides to that “contract of society” isn’t treated equally, then that frustration must become unpalatable. It must become unfair. Unjust.
And when that happens, what can they do?
And when it happens again. And again. And again.
What can they do?
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Then trump has one more term.
What then?
posted on 2/6/20
probably his replacement..
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So if a Muslim gets attacked in Bradford, then would you say they’ve got their fellow Muslim to thank for carrying out an attack in London
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If that Muslim was a position of power which they then abused in that attack, and those Muslims in Bradford were part of that same power structure then yes
posted on 2/6/20
i dont understand the question tbh, i was merely saying this wont suddenly get biden into power
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