comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 4 minutes ago
Totally agree on there being too many "professional" teams. I'd be happy with a 16 team, 30 game top flight. Play each time once home and away, no split nonsense, and no need to cram a hunner games onto a a bog pitch in January just to make up the fixtures. One professional division below that with the rest of the teams, then regional leagues below that.
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Don't see how a 30 game league could possibly work financially. Most clubs are absolutely skint in a 38 game setup, with a cr@p TV deal based on 4 OF games. How do clubs survive with 4 less home gates, and a reduced TV deal because there are only 2 OF clashes (which would be inevitable)? Non-starter for me.
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At some point you've got to break that cycle though. We've got a deal that gives us not enough money to support too many clubs, and ties us to a stale, repetitive league format that holds us back from improving the product and bringing in additional revenue.
'At some point you've got to break that cycle though'
I think that applies to a lot of areas of Scottish football, and totally agree with you. Can't remember who it was that said it, but Ajax were being held up as an example of a club that went through everything root and branch to rebuild, and why couldn't their club be like that. The reply was along the lines of the fact that their club wouldn't be given time to do that, as it was accepted that during that period of rebuilding they wouldn't be in a position to challenge properly for the league, while Ajax were given that leeway. Might have been Lawwell!
There's no 'bigger picture' thinking in Scottish football. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 10 minutes ago
'At some point you've got to break that cycle though'
I think that applies to a lot of areas of Scottish football, and totally agree with you. Can't remember who it was that said it, but Ajax were being held up as an example of a club that went through everything root and branch to rebuild, and why couldn't their club be like that. The reply was along the lines of the fact that their club wouldn't be given time to do that, as it was accepted that during that period of rebuilding they wouldn't be in a position to challenge properly for the league, while Ajax were given that leeway. Might have been Lawwell!
There's no 'bigger picture' thinking in Scottish football. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
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Aye, we can probably all agree on that. Depressing, isn't it?
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 37 minutes ago
For the top six it might be slightly better as they'd see them less but I think they'd be cannon fodder mostly that add nothing to the league and teams would need even less quality at the bottom to stay up. I'd add relegation spots if the league expanded but no one would vote for that.
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Think with the likes of Hearts and the Dundee clubs we have just about enough teams of a level to have a decent top 14. Wouldn't go more than 14 though, in all honesty.
Totally agree about having more relegation and/or promo play off spots though in an expanded league, to keep the bottom 8 "interesting" (or as interesting as it could be) ... and offer more Championship teams the carrot of a route into the top flight. As you say, though, that would never be voted for either!
Doncaster meanwhile has joined UEFA ethics and disciplinary board. Well earned
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 46 minutes ago
Doncaster meanwhile has joined UEFA ethics and disciplinary board. Well earned
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posted on 16/6/20
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 4 minutes ago
Totally agree on there being too many "professional" teams. I'd be happy with a 16 team, 30 game top flight. Play each time once home and away, no split nonsense, and no need to cram a hunner games onto a a bog pitch in January just to make up the fixtures. One professional division below that with the rest of the teams, then regional leagues below that.
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Don't see how a 30 game league could possibly work financially. Most clubs are absolutely skint in a 38 game setup, with a cr@p TV deal based on 4 OF games. How do clubs survive with 4 less home gates, and a reduced TV deal because there are only 2 OF clashes (which would be inevitable)? Non-starter for me.
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At some point you've got to break that cycle though. We've got a deal that gives us not enough money to support too many clubs, and ties us to a stale, repetitive league format that holds us back from improving the product and bringing in additional revenue.
posted on 16/6/20
'At some point you've got to break that cycle though'
I think that applies to a lot of areas of Scottish football, and totally agree with you. Can't remember who it was that said it, but Ajax were being held up as an example of a club that went through everything root and branch to rebuild, and why couldn't their club be like that. The reply was along the lines of the fact that their club wouldn't be given time to do that, as it was accepted that during that period of rebuilding they wouldn't be in a position to challenge properly for the league, while Ajax were given that leeway. Might have been Lawwell!
There's no 'bigger picture' thinking in Scottish football. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
posted on 16/6/20
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 10 minutes ago
'At some point you've got to break that cycle though'
I think that applies to a lot of areas of Scottish football, and totally agree with you. Can't remember who it was that said it, but Ajax were being held up as an example of a club that went through everything root and branch to rebuild, and why couldn't their club be like that. The reply was along the lines of the fact that their club wouldn't be given time to do that, as it was accepted that during that period of rebuilding they wouldn't be in a position to challenge properly for the league, while Ajax were given that leeway. Might have been Lawwell!
There's no 'bigger picture' thinking in Scottish football. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
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Aye, we can probably all agree on that. Depressing, isn't it?
posted on 16/6/20
Aye.
posted on 16/6/20
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 37 minutes ago
For the top six it might be slightly better as they'd see them less but I think they'd be cannon fodder mostly that add nothing to the league and teams would need even less quality at the bottom to stay up. I'd add relegation spots if the league expanded but no one would vote for that.
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Think with the likes of Hearts and the Dundee clubs we have just about enough teams of a level to have a decent top 14. Wouldn't go more than 14 though, in all honesty.
Totally agree about having more relegation and/or promo play off spots though in an expanded league, to keep the bottom 8 "interesting" (or as interesting as it could be) ... and offer more Championship teams the carrot of a route into the top flight. As you say, though, that would never be voted for either!
posted on 18/6/20
Doncaster meanwhile has joined UEFA ethics and disciplinary board. Well earned
posted on 18/6/20
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 46 minutes ago
Doncaster meanwhile has joined UEFA ethics and disciplinary board. Well earned
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