This might finish the filtering process.

comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 6 minutes ago
This might finish the filtering process.
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How?

Its actually positive racisim to claim black lives matter. Are you saying they matter more than white people?

comment by Timothy (U14278)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 6 minutes ago
This might finish the filtering process.
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How?

Its actually positive racisim to claim black lives matter. Are you saying they matter more than white people?
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They matter more than imaginary people.

I'm kind of with Magnum on this, timmy, and I'm a man that's defended you umpteen times on here.

This is lazy WUMming. It's so obviously trying to provoke a reaction, I actually feel a little insulted you think we're all this stupid.

comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 5 minutes ago

This is lazy WUMming. It's so obviously trying to provoke a reaction,
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I`m not so sure anymore.

comment by Timothy (U14278)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 6 minutes ago
This might finish the filtering process.
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How?

Its actually positive racisim to claim black lives matter. Are you saying they matter more than white people?
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Couldn't agree more


Bit like the Black actors Guild, or the association of Black lawyers

You try applying for one of those...see where you get

not sure about that.. Timmy is the greatest lawyer JA has ever seen. He is a terrible actor though.

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Timothy (U14278)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 6 minutes ago
This might finish the filtering process.
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How?

Its actually positive racisim to claim black lives matter. Are you saying they matter more than white people?
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Couldn't agree more


Bit like the Black actors Guild, or the association of Black lawyers

You try applying for one of those...see where you get
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Yes compare something set up due to the fact that the members were excluded from original. If you think that is comparable then you are part of the problem.

comment by Why the pallaver (U10168)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Timothy (U14278)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 6 minutes ago
This might finish the filtering process.
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How?

Its actually positive racisim to claim black lives matter. Are you saying they matter more than white people?
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Couldn't agree more


Bit like the Black actors Guild, or the association of Black lawyers

You try applying for one of those...see where you get
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Yes compare something set up due to the fact that the members were excluded from original. If you think that is comparable then you are part of the problem.
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Just looked up the white versions of these...there aren't any...

I expect it's racist to have them called such things

OP

Is this a wum or a call to have this conversation?

Critics of BLM argue it actually focuses on race and identity, over say class and poverty.

We all condemn the murder of Floyd by brutal cops.

Now, elements in the movement and far left seek to say every thing American, Scottish, British is racist and bad and a bit rubbish.

We just saw white guys murdered last weekend after white guys were attacked on their own in London the previous weekend.

White people get killed by cops and black racists, just as black people get killed by cops and white racists.

We have white girls groomed by Pakistani and north African men in England.

We have poor white trash in UK and America, who also get killed by UK cops.

Who speaks for them...if nobody does, the Far Right will.

Not sure why the EPL has to wear BLM tops and take the knee, after a shooting thousands of miles away either?

We can condemn police brutality and racism without jumping on a political far leftist and racialist bandwagon.

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Why the pallaver (U10168)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Timothy (U14278)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 6 minutes ago
This might finish the filtering process.
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How?

Its actually positive racisim to claim black lives matter. Are you saying they matter more than white people?
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Couldn't agree more


Bit like the Black actors Guild, or the association of Black lawyers

You try applying for one of those...see where you get
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Yes compare something set up due to the fact that the members were excluded from original. If you think that is comparable then you are part of the problem.
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Just looked up the white versions of these...there aren't any...

I expect it's racist to have them called such things
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Yes carry on, if you believe that.

comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 19 minutes ago
I'm kind of with Magnum on this, timmy, and I'm a man that's defended you umpteen times on here.

This is lazy WUMming. It's so obviously trying to provoke a reaction, I actually feel a little insulted you think we're all this stupid.
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Dont blame me it was Gary lineaker that said it.

It does raise a valid question on positive racism,

comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 4 minutes ago
OP

Is this a wum or a call to have this conversation?

Critics of BLM argue it actually focuses on race and identity, over say class and poverty.

We all condemn the murder of Floyd by brutal cops.

Now, elements in the movement and far left seek to say every thing American, Scottish, British is racist and bad and a bit rubbish.

We just saw white guys murdered last weekend after white guys were attacked on their own in London the previous weekend.

White people get killed by cops and black racists, just as black people get killed by cops and white racists.

We have white girls groomed by Pakistani and north African men in England.

We have poor white trash in UK and America, who also get killed by UK cops.

Who speaks for them...if nobody does, the Far Right will.

Not sure why the EPL has to wear BLM tops and take the knee, after a shooting thousands of miles away either?

We can condemn police brutality and racism without jumping on a political far leftist and racialist bandwagon.



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fAr LeFt

comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 5 minutes ago
OP

Is this a wum or a call to have this conversation?

Critics of BLM argue it actually focuses on race and identity, over say class and poverty.

We all condemn the murder of Floyd by brutal cops.

Now, elements in the movement and far left seek to say every thing American, Scottish, British is racist and bad and a bit rubbish.

We just saw white guys murdered last weekend after white guys were attacked on their own in London the previous weekend.

White people get killed by cops and black racists, just as black people get killed by cops and white racists.

We have white girls groomed by Pakistani and north African men in England.

We have poor white trash in UK and America, who also get killed by UK cops.

Who speaks for them...if nobody does, the Far Right will.

Not sure why the EPL has to wear BLM tops and take the knee, after a shooting thousands of miles away either?

We can condemn police brutality and racism without jumping on a political far leftist and racialist bandwagon.



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Exactly

comment by HB Fash - GERRARD OUT (U21935)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 4 minutes ago
OP

Is this a wum or a call to have this conversation?

Critics of BLM argue it actually focuses on race and identity, over say class and poverty.

We all condemn the murder of Floyd by brutal cops.

Now, elements in the movement and far left seek to say every thing American, Scottish, British is racist and bad and a bit rubbish.

We just saw white guys murdered last weekend after white guys were attacked on their own in London the previous weekend.

White people get killed by cops and black racists, just as black people get killed by cops and white racists.

We have white girls groomed by Pakistani and north African men in England.

We have poor white trash in UK and America, who also get killed by UK cops.

Who speaks for them...if nobody does, the Far Right will.

Not sure why the EPL has to wear BLM tops and take the knee, after a shooting thousands of miles away either?

We can condemn police brutality and racism without jumping on a political far leftist and racialist bandwagon.



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fAr LeFt
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Them uns......taking over Seattle to set up cop free zone and hand out guns to kids there, then a guy gets shot dead there over the weekend....that antifa type far left freakshow.

Not all left wing people are rational and wise.

No, that's not what it appears. It appears some people are idiots. Saw a quote the other day which I liked. "Screaming white lives matter is like turning up to a birthday party and screaming it's your birthday".

comment by Why the pallaver (U10168)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Why the pallaver (U10168)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Timothy (U14278)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 6 minutes ago
This might finish the filtering process.
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How?

Its actually positive racisim to claim black lives matter. Are you saying they matter more than white people?
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Couldn't agree more


Bit like the Black actors Guild, or the association of Black lawyers

You try applying for one of those...see where you get
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Yes compare something set up due to the fact that the members were excluded from original. If you think that is comparable then you are part of the problem.
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Just looked up the white versions of these...there aren't any...

I expect it's racist to have them called such things
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Yes carry on, if you believe that.
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EPL have how many black players from 4% of UK being black.

Half England team is POC.

So, like 75% black NFL American football, do white minority players require a union?

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 35 seconds ago
No, that's not what it appears. It appears some people are idiots. Saw a quote the other day which I liked. "Screaming white lives matter is like turning up to a birthday party and screaming it's your birthday".
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No lives matter until black lives matter is one racist silly slogan.

What about Asian, Hispanic or Chinese lives?

White silence equal violence and dead black men....another load of cobblers as white folk like me and millions spoke out about cops killing Floyd.

Anyone complaining either doesn't fully understand or is showing willful ignorance. You are either racists or helpful idiots for racists.

Black lives have been treated as less than white ones be that in police brutality, institutionalised racism or in opportunities afforded.

Black lives matter doesn't mean only black lives matter, it means we are supporting black lives because they are the ones facing these problems. Black lives are the house on fire and white lives are the house not on fire down the road, you wouldn't be outside the house on fire shouting to the fire brigade you house matters unless you're a massive bell.

comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Why the pallaver (U10168)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Why the pallaver (U10168)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Timothy (U14278)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 6 minutes ago
This might finish the filtering process.
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How?

Its actually positive racisim to claim black lives matter. Are you saying they matter more than white people?
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Couldn't agree more


Bit like the Black actors Guild, or the association of Black lawyers

You try applying for one of those...see where you get
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Yes compare something set up due to the fact that the members were excluded from original. If you think that is comparable then you are part of the problem.
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Just looked up the white versions of these...there aren't any...

I expect it's racist to have them called such things
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Yes carry on, if you believe that.
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EPL have how many black players from 4% of UK being black.

Half England team is POC.

So, like 75% black NFL American football, do white minority players require a union?


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The White Basketball Players Association of America.

Black lives matter doesn't mean only black lives matter, it means we are supporting black lives because they are the ones facing these problems.
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Which of course they do know well. It’s just an easy linguistic straw-man for them to claim otherwise.

I’m out of here. This depresses me hugely.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/man-city-burnley-banner-plane-white-lives-matter-racism-epl-a9580266.html


For the avoidance of any doubt, the BLM message is a specific response to the systematic and institutional historic victimisation that the black community has had to suffer, so distilled by the death of George Floyd. Any response to that along the lines of “White Lives Matter” is a fundamental rejection of the message, which is what makes it far right—and fundamentally racist. This is an element within the game that cannot be ignored and must be confronted.

That is the view of Piara Power of Fare—the football anti-discrimination network—in a statement to the Press Association.

“The ‘White Lives Matter’ flypast is part of Europe’s wider ‘racist backlash’,” Power said. “Set against the BLM message of equal rights, ‘White Lives Matter’ can only be motivated by racism and a denial of equal rights.”

How many of nfl executives are not white? it would be like football having a world where nearly every person of power was from a minority group. Unthinkable and should be practically impossible.

comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash - GERRARD OUT (U21935)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 4 minutes ago
OP

Is this a wum or a call to have this conversation?

Critics of BLM argue it actually focuses on race and identity, over say class and poverty.

We all condemn the murder of Floyd by brutal cops.

Now, elements in the movement and far left seek to say every thing American, Scottish, British is racist and bad and a bit rubbish.

We just saw white guys murdered last weekend after white guys were attacked on their own in London the previous weekend.

White people get killed by cops and black racists, just as black people get killed by cops and white racists.

We have white girls groomed by Pakistani and north African men in England.

We have poor white trash in UK and America, who also get killed by UK cops.

Who speaks for them...if nobody does, the Far Right will.

Not sure why the EPL has to wear BLM tops and take the knee, after a shooting thousands of miles away either?

We can condemn police brutality and racism without jumping on a political far leftist and racialist bandwagon.



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fAr LeFt
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Them uns......taking over Seattle to set up cop free zone and hand out guns to kids there, then a guy gets shot dead there over the weekend....that antifa type far left freakshow.

Not all left wing people are rational and wise.
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To qualify the BLM movement as Far Left is nonsense a deflection tactic used so you can criticise it without being overtly racist.

It's not far left, you know it and i know it. Are there elements of far left involved, yes probably but the reality is far left is communist, we don't have a large group of communists in this country or in America. The support is coming from the far left, the left, the centre, the right of centre, white, black, asian, rich and poor. People that think everyone should be treated fairly.

Not sure why the EPL has to wear BLM tops and take the knee
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What about Sadio Mané?