Europa final has Inter united written all over it!
Young, Lukaku and Sanchez to be schooled.
comment by Ban Wissaka (U5318)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Europa final has Inter united written all over it!
Young, Lukaku and Sanchez to be schooled.
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I dread facing them. Conte would park a massive bus in front of the goal and they'd have a few players with points to probe. Ideally someone else will knock them out
Selling Lukaku was one of the best decisions of the Ole era. Watching him try and play football was almost as bad and cringe worthy as watching a Prince Andrew interview.
Also, Conte deserves a statue outside Old Trafford, he brought in Young, Lukaku and now he’s taking Sánchez.
Absolute legend.
Watching him try and play football was almost as bad and cringe worthy as watching a Prince Andrew interview.
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Sanchez still has one last run left in him I think.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 3 hours, 17 minutes ago
How’s Lukaku doing with scoring against the better teams?
What’s happening with Sanchez, surely Inter aren’t dumb enough to take him on permanently.
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He has scored vs Barcelona, both games vs AC Milan and a double vs Napoli
Didn’t score against any good teams then.
Any of them a last goal in a 4-0 win or a consolation goal in a defeat? He gets good numbers but they’re rarely big goals. It sounds like I’m nitpicking but it is important that your striker comes up with important goals as well as a lot.
The Barcelona goal was in a loss but it was the opening goal. So already your definition of big goal is at a contradiction..does it discredit Lukaku’s goal in this game because his team came out with a loss? The other games were all important goals in wins. Also if important goals are simply the goals that win you points this principle should extend to any team that the club plays.
How often does any footballer only score goals that are either the last goal of a 4-0 win or a goal in a loss? Most of Lukaku’s goals will just either be a goal that equalises the game, puts the team one ahead or puts the team two ahead and clear. I think each secanrio is just as important as the other..
You said it yourself about nitpicking. I don’t think any other striker has the same level of scrutiny applied to his game than Lukaku - hence I think he’s one of the most underrated strikers of the decade.
I don't think he's underrated but I do agree with the nitpicking part.
He had his chance at United and I think he showed that he's not technically good enough to be right at the top level.
Obviously a top goalscorer though.
He defintely isn't one of the most uderrated strikers of the decade.
He get's scrutinised because he regualrly goes missing in big games and it isn't often that he gets 'big' goals which you want from a striker. He has a impressing scoring record but I doubt he'll ever be key in his clubs winning trophies.
I simply asked has he scored against any big clubs and you gave me 3 examples, 2 of which are clubs who are pretty poor. I asked because it was clearly a big issue with us, he rarely scored against the big clubs when you wanted him to.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 55 minutes ago
He defintely isn't one of the most uderrated strikers of the decade.
He get's scrutinised because he regualrly goes missing in big games and it isn't often that he gets 'big' goals which you want from a striker. He has a impressing scoring record but I doubt he'll ever be key in his clubs winning trophies.
I simply asked has he scored against any big clubs and you gave me 3 examples, 2 of which are clubs who are pretty poor. I asked because it was clearly a big issue with us, he rarely scored against the big clubs when you wanted him to.
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This.
Lukaku’s continued to disappear against better opposition as it’s what he does.
Fair enough. I just don't think any other player who gets a similar rate gets held to the standards or scrutiny of Lukaku's record. I brought up examples of him scoring in big games, and even then this is scrutinised even further to the finest minutiae of detail, because it is Lukaku. Which minute did he score in, did his team win, what was the score, whether the teams are 'big' enough to be now counted as a 'big' team etc. to the point it starts to feel a bit superfluous.
As a random example, Martial this season has scored in 4 'big' games this season in all comps, in the 4 league games you have played against City and Chelsea. Firstly, I could never imagine any discussion this season that Martial's big goal record isn't good enough any time his record is mentioned, never mind going to scrutinise it further (is Chelsea a big team? did United win? What else can we say to kind of counteract the fact that this is a striker who's had a good season and a good goal record). Maybe I'm wrong on this and you guys are all wanting an exact number of 'big' goals in the 'right' circumstances from your strikers and analysing their records as such..I only really see this with Lukaku.
20 goals in 30 league appearances (and of course, 8 more to go) for Inter Milan is just a fantastic record evident of a good striker.
I said underrated, to explain my point further, in the most general principles of the term. Fans do not rate him despite clear objective and consistent evidence he's a good striker. It is hard to quantify this of course but if I was to go to the average fan and make a claim that 'Lukaku is a good striker, look at his record in his career, do you agree' I feel like a lot of fans would disagree and say he isn't a good striker (despite all the evidence to the contrary). But yeah again fair enough if you disagree obvs all just opinion of course
But Barca is the only big team he scored against? Average Napoli and Milan sides that were midtable isn’t beyond Lukaku. He doesn’t score enough against the top sides in the league. It’s been the case since he was at Everton.
No striker with his scoring rate gets criticised like this as it’s rare for a striker with his scoring rate to be as poor in big games as he is.
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posted on 5/7/20
Europa final has Inter united written all over it!
Young, Lukaku and Sanchez to be schooled.
posted on 5/7/20
comment by Ban Wissaka (U5318)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Europa final has Inter united written all over it!
Young, Lukaku and Sanchez to be schooled.
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I dread facing them. Conte would park a massive bus in front of the goal and they'd have a few players with points to probe. Ideally someone else will knock them out
posted on 5/7/20
Selling Lukaku was one of the best decisions of the Ole era. Watching him try and play football was almost as bad and cringe worthy as watching a Prince Andrew interview.
Also, Conte deserves a statue outside Old Trafford, he brought in Young, Lukaku and now he’s taking Sánchez.
Absolute legend.
posted on 5/7/20
Watching him try and play football was almost as bad and cringe worthy as watching a Prince Andrew interview.
———
posted on 5/7/20
Sanchez still has one last run left in him I think.
posted on 5/7/20
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 3 hours, 17 minutes ago
How’s Lukaku doing with scoring against the better teams?
What’s happening with Sanchez, surely Inter aren’t dumb enough to take him on permanently.
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He has scored vs Barcelona, both games vs AC Milan and a double vs Napoli
posted on 5/7/20
Didn’t score against any good teams then.
posted on 6/7/20
Any of them a last goal in a 4-0 win or a consolation goal in a defeat? He gets good numbers but they’re rarely big goals. It sounds like I’m nitpicking but it is important that your striker comes up with important goals as well as a lot.
posted on 6/7/20
The Barcelona goal was in a loss but it was the opening goal. So already your definition of big goal is at a contradiction..does it discredit Lukaku’s goal in this game because his team came out with a loss? The other games were all important goals in wins. Also if important goals are simply the goals that win you points this principle should extend to any team that the club plays.
How often does any footballer only score goals that are either the last goal of a 4-0 win or a goal in a loss? Most of Lukaku’s goals will just either be a goal that equalises the game, puts the team one ahead or puts the team two ahead and clear. I think each secanrio is just as important as the other..
You said it yourself about nitpicking. I don’t think any other striker has the same level of scrutiny applied to his game than Lukaku - hence I think he’s one of the most underrated strikers of the decade.
posted on 6/7/20
I don't think he's underrated but I do agree with the nitpicking part.
He had his chance at United and I think he showed that he's not technically good enough to be right at the top level.
Obviously a top goalscorer though.
posted on 6/7/20
He defintely isn't one of the most uderrated strikers of the decade.
He get's scrutinised because he regualrly goes missing in big games and it isn't often that he gets 'big' goals which you want from a striker. He has a impressing scoring record but I doubt he'll ever be key in his clubs winning trophies.
I simply asked has he scored against any big clubs and you gave me 3 examples, 2 of which are clubs who are pretty poor. I asked because it was clearly a big issue with us, he rarely scored against the big clubs when you wanted him to.
posted on 6/7/20
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 55 minutes ago
He defintely isn't one of the most uderrated strikers of the decade.
He get's scrutinised because he regualrly goes missing in big games and it isn't often that he gets 'big' goals which you want from a striker. He has a impressing scoring record but I doubt he'll ever be key in his clubs winning trophies.
I simply asked has he scored against any big clubs and you gave me 3 examples, 2 of which are clubs who are pretty poor. I asked because it was clearly a big issue with us, he rarely scored against the big clubs when you wanted him to.
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This.
posted on 6/7/20
Lukaku’s continued to disappear against better opposition as it’s what he does.
posted on 6/7/20
Fair enough. I just don't think any other player who gets a similar rate gets held to the standards or scrutiny of Lukaku's record. I brought up examples of him scoring in big games, and even then this is scrutinised even further to the finest minutiae of detail, because it is Lukaku. Which minute did he score in, did his team win, what was the score, whether the teams are 'big' enough to be now counted as a 'big' team etc. to the point it starts to feel a bit superfluous.
As a random example, Martial this season has scored in 4 'big' games this season in all comps, in the 4 league games you have played against City and Chelsea. Firstly, I could never imagine any discussion this season that Martial's big goal record isn't good enough any time his record is mentioned, never mind going to scrutinise it further (is Chelsea a big team? did United win? What else can we say to kind of counteract the fact that this is a striker who's had a good season and a good goal record). Maybe I'm wrong on this and you guys are all wanting an exact number of 'big' goals in the 'right' circumstances from your strikers and analysing their records as such..I only really see this with Lukaku.
20 goals in 30 league appearances (and of course, 8 more to go) for Inter Milan is just a fantastic record evident of a good striker.
I said underrated, to explain my point further, in the most general principles of the term. Fans do not rate him despite clear objective and consistent evidence he's a good striker. It is hard to quantify this of course but if I was to go to the average fan and make a claim that 'Lukaku is a good striker, look at his record in his career, do you agree' I feel like a lot of fans would disagree and say he isn't a good striker (despite all the evidence to the contrary). But yeah again fair enough if you disagree obvs all just opinion of course
posted on 6/7/20
But Barca is the only big team he scored against? Average Napoli and Milan sides that were midtable isn’t beyond Lukaku. He doesn’t score enough against the top sides in the league. It’s been the case since he was at Everton.
No striker with his scoring rate gets criticised like this as it’s rare for a striker with his scoring rate to be as poor in big games as he is.
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