“ Then there’s nothing more to add. No matter what I say, unless it’s what you want me to say then you just rubbish it. You’re as narrow minded as it gets.”
It’s a weird thing to claim
You’re really saying that if it repeatedly kept happening you wouldn’t be bothered in the slightest. I think anyone would. Particularly if you’ve done nothing wrong. That’s the whole point of our justice system. So you can go about without hindrance of both being a victim of crime and being accused unnecessarily whilst going about your lawful business.
Your ideal, you don’t have a problem with, is basically a police state. We police by consent here, a couple of the founding principles being;
“To recognise always that the power of the police to fulfil their functions and duties is dependent on public approval of their existence, actions and behaviour and on their ability to secure and maintain public respect”.
Another
“To recognise always that to secure and maintain the respect and approval of the public means also the securing of the willing co-operation of the public in the task of securing observance of laws.“
Continuously pulling a law abiding citizen over based on profiling is not gaining their willing cooperation. It’s forcing them to cooperate under duress. ‘If you don’t consent to the search we’ll arrest you’ etc.
Right.
Black people are more likely to be arrested?
Is that because they are doing something illegal?
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A lot of people commit crime. If you search 10 black people and 5 white people, then you will find more black people commiting a crime, no?
Take traffic stops for instance. If more black drivers are being stopped, more will be found with offence or contraband and more will end up facing the music.
“ Black people are more likely to be arrested?
Is that because they are doing something illegal?”
The amount who get arrested following police escalating stops and agitating the person for no good reason as well.
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Term would be alright with this continuously happening if the roles were reversed;
https://youtu.be/gYjkwY4c2AE
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comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 13 minutes ago
“ Black people are more likely to be arrested?
Is that because they are doing something illegal?”
The amount who get arrested following police escalating stops and agitating the person for no good reason as well.
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No facts, just hyperbole
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From you
Posted many facts thanks. You stuck to ‘yeah but what about my latest hypothetical’?
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 13 minutes ago
“ Black people are more likely to be arrested?
Is that because they are doing something illegal?”
The amount who get arrested following police escalating stops and agitating the person for no good reason as well.
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No facts, just hyperbole
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From you
Posted many facts thanks. You stuck to ‘yeah but what about my latest hypothetical’?
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Because all crimes carry equal punishment, according to you. 🤦🏻♂️
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But what about crimes committed on an inclement Thursday afternoon with a slight south westerly wind.
How about you find some proof there is no disparity?
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JS
“ I think difference in the crime could have some importance. Maybe, a little more than the day of the week. But I could be wrong...”
You should do some research into it.
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When faced with actual facts saying well they don't break it down by type of crime is tantamount to saying I actually believe the majority of Black people commit worse crimes than Whites.
As has been pointed out before, people saying minorities are unfairly treated have provided facts and figures. Those taking the opposing view have provided nothing other than opinions. Back up your arguments or admit that you have 'a view' and you're sticking to it.
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When faced with actual facts saying well they don't break it down by type of crime is tantamount to saying I actually believe the majority of Black people commit worse crimes than Whites.
As has been pointed out before, people saying minorities are unfairly treated have provided facts and figures. Those taking the opposing view have provided nothing other than opinions. Back up your arguments or admit that you have 'a view' and you're sticking to it.
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Another Cathy Newman clone.
Asking for facts relating to something is to get a better picture. I have at no point said the systematic racism isn't real, but I do question it. I have just asked for proof. Kind of like a normal human being. Or do you suggest we should just make snap judgements
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I'm not suggesting you or anyone should make snap judgements. Try actually learning by using data and fact s and figures you thick c***.
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“ Asking for facts relating to something is to get a better picture. ”
How about go looking yourself to get a better picture instead of asking others to do it for you
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comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 10 minutes ago
“ Asking for facts relating to something is to get a better picture. ”
How about go looking yourself to get a better picture instead of asking others to do it for you
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You're the one making the point, so back it up. If you can't it doesn't carry much weight.
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Like you back your points up
I’m not doing the work for you when all your brain can come up with is ‘yeah but what about’ or hypothetical shiite.
Educate yourself, it’s not our job to do it for you
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JS
“ I haven't made a point”
Never a truer word spoken. Throughout this whole debate you haven’t made a point. Just engaged in whataboutery and making up obscure hypothetical situations to counter facts posted by myself and others.
Pop off, do some reading, then come back and have a debate.
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comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 31 seconds ago
JS
“ I haven't made a point”
Never a truer word spoken. Throughout this whole debate you haven’t made a point. Just engaged in whataboutery and making up obscure hypothetical situations to counter facts posted by myself and others.
Pop off, do some reading, then come back and have a debate.
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Because I should just take your rumours as fact? 😂😂😂
Do some reading? What cliche comeback site did you get that from?
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What rumours?
If you want to get a better understanding have at it. Who’s stopping you?
One thing we do know is I could post all the facts in the world and it’ll be met by you with the substantive reply of ‘yeah but what about........’
You have a question you want answered. Go and find the answer
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comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 33 seconds ago
Find a comment where I have written, yeah but what about.... You won't. 😂😂
You're just making things up because you can't prove your point is correct.
Admit it. You watched something on YouTube about America and have have applied that to the UK without any verification.
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Ah right, you haven’t engaged in whataboutery at all on this thread? Or come up with weird hypothetical situations in response to factual posts by myself and others?
Weird how you won’t do any research yourself and keep asking others to fetch for you. It’s like your reluctant to educate yourself about this and prefer made you situations that suit your own narrative.
If you don’t believe what I’ve said prove it wrong. Couldn’t give a shiite what further information you need. You need it, get it yourself.
Off you pop softlad
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posted on 10/7/20
“ Then there’s nothing more to add. No matter what I say, unless it’s what you want me to say then you just rubbish it. You’re as narrow minded as it gets.”
It’s a weird thing to claim
You’re really saying that if it repeatedly kept happening you wouldn’t be bothered in the slightest. I think anyone would. Particularly if you’ve done nothing wrong. That’s the whole point of our justice system. So you can go about without hindrance of both being a victim of crime and being accused unnecessarily whilst going about your lawful business.
Your ideal, you don’t have a problem with, is basically a police state. We police by consent here, a couple of the founding principles being;
“To recognise always that the power of the police to fulfil their functions and duties is dependent on public approval of their existence, actions and behaviour and on their ability to secure and maintain public respect”.
Another
“To recognise always that to secure and maintain the respect and approval of the public means also the securing of the willing co-operation of the public in the task of securing observance of laws.“
Continuously pulling a law abiding citizen over based on profiling is not gaining their willing cooperation. It’s forcing them to cooperate under duress. ‘If you don’t consent to the search we’ll arrest you’ etc.
posted on 10/7/20
Right.
Black people are more likely to be arrested?
Is that because they are doing something illegal?
-----
A lot of people commit crime. If you search 10 black people and 5 white people, then you will find more black people commiting a crime, no?
Take traffic stops for instance. If more black drivers are being stopped, more will be found with offence or contraband and more will end up facing the music.
posted on 10/7/20
“ Black people are more likely to be arrested?
Is that because they are doing something illegal?”
The amount who get arrested following police escalating stops and agitating the person for no good reason as well.
posted on 10/7/20
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posted on 10/7/20
Term would be alright with this continuously happening if the roles were reversed;
https://youtu.be/gYjkwY4c2AE
posted on 10/7/20
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posted on 10/7/20
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 13 minutes ago
“ Black people are more likely to be arrested?
Is that because they are doing something illegal?”
The amount who get arrested following police escalating stops and agitating the person for no good reason as well.
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No facts, just hyperbole
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From you
Posted many facts thanks. You stuck to ‘yeah but what about my latest hypothetical’?
posted on 10/7/20
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posted on 10/7/20
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 13 minutes ago
“ Black people are more likely to be arrested?
Is that because they are doing something illegal?”
The amount who get arrested following police escalating stops and agitating the person for no good reason as well.
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No facts, just hyperbole
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From you
Posted many facts thanks. You stuck to ‘yeah but what about my latest hypothetical’?
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Because all crimes carry equal punishment, according to you. 🤦🏻♂️
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But what about crimes committed on an inclement Thursday afternoon with a slight south westerly wind.
How about you find some proof there is no disparity?
posted on 10/7/20
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posted on 10/7/20
JS
“ I think difference in the crime could have some importance. Maybe, a little more than the day of the week. But I could be wrong...”
You should do some research into it.
posted on 10/7/20
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posted on 10/7/20
When faced with actual facts saying well they don't break it down by type of crime is tantamount to saying I actually believe the majority of Black people commit worse crimes than Whites.
As has been pointed out before, people saying minorities are unfairly treated have provided facts and figures. Those taking the opposing view have provided nothing other than opinions. Back up your arguments or admit that you have 'a view' and you're sticking to it.
posted on 10/7/20
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posted on 11/7/20
When faced with actual facts saying well they don't break it down by type of crime is tantamount to saying I actually believe the majority of Black people commit worse crimes than Whites.
As has been pointed out before, people saying minorities are unfairly treated have provided facts and figures. Those taking the opposing view have provided nothing other than opinions. Back up your arguments or admit that you have 'a view' and you're sticking to it.
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Another Cathy Newman clone.
Asking for facts relating to something is to get a better picture. I have at no point said the systematic racism isn't real, but I do question it. I have just asked for proof. Kind of like a normal human being. Or do you suggest we should just make snap judgements
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I'm not suggesting you or anyone should make snap judgements. Try actually learning by using data and fact s and figures you thick c***.
posted on 11/7/20
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posted on 11/7/20
“ Asking for facts relating to something is to get a better picture. ”
How about go looking yourself to get a better picture instead of asking others to do it for you
posted on 11/7/20
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posted on 11/7/20
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 10 minutes ago
“ Asking for facts relating to something is to get a better picture. ”
How about go looking yourself to get a better picture instead of asking others to do it for you
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You're the one making the point, so back it up. If you can't it doesn't carry much weight.
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Like you back your points up
I’m not doing the work for you when all your brain can come up with is ‘yeah but what about’ or hypothetical shiite.
Educate yourself, it’s not our job to do it for you
posted on 11/7/20
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posted on 11/7/20
JS
“ I haven't made a point”
Never a truer word spoken. Throughout this whole debate you haven’t made a point. Just engaged in whataboutery and making up obscure hypothetical situations to counter facts posted by myself and others.
Pop off, do some reading, then come back and have a debate.
posted on 11/7/20
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posted on 11/7/20
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 31 seconds ago
JS
“ I haven't made a point”
Never a truer word spoken. Throughout this whole debate you haven’t made a point. Just engaged in whataboutery and making up obscure hypothetical situations to counter facts posted by myself and others.
Pop off, do some reading, then come back and have a debate.
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Because I should just take your rumours as fact? 😂😂😂
Do some reading? What cliche comeback site did you get that from?
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What rumours?
If you want to get a better understanding have at it. Who’s stopping you?
One thing we do know is I could post all the facts in the world and it’ll be met by you with the substantive reply of ‘yeah but what about........’
You have a question you want answered. Go and find the answer
posted on 11/7/20
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posted on 11/7/20
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 33 seconds ago
Find a comment where I have written, yeah but what about.... You won't. 😂😂
You're just making things up because you can't prove your point is correct.
Admit it. You watched something on YouTube about America and have have applied that to the UK without any verification.
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Ah right, you haven’t engaged in whataboutery at all on this thread? Or come up with weird hypothetical situations in response to factual posts by myself and others?
Weird how you won’t do any research yourself and keep asking others to fetch for you. It’s like your reluctant to educate yourself about this and prefer made you situations that suit your own narrative.
If you don’t believe what I’ve said prove it wrong. Couldn’t give a shiite what further information you need. You need it, get it yourself.
Off you pop softlad
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