comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 53 minutes ago
Ramos is the best CB - not just in the world currently but he’s arguably the greatest defender of all-time.
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You can tell the pubs have reopened
KDB really hasn’t struggled for consistency what nonsense. 3 of the 9 losses he didn’t start (2 he didn’t play) and he scored or assisted in another two disproving that remark. He is on course for a PL record for assists. It isn’t even a debate.
De Bruyne has been our only consistent player to be fair, usually there is a few up there, Bernardo, Fernandinho, Laporte, Sterling, Aguero, but De Bruyne has been head and shoulders above the rest of the squad this season on a consistent basis.
So yeah not sure I agree with your analysis at all tbh.
As for getting beat due to key men not turning up each time - we had as more attempts against Southampton than Leicester did when they scored 9! I just don’t think you can read into the number of losses this year as Liverpool had the league sewn up so early, in the same way I doubt many Liverpool fans read into the defeat at the Etihad the other week very much.
How is the voting done? Is it not one vote per player?
Liverpool players will possibly split their votes so unless the format has changed KDB is nailed on to get it and deservedly anyway as he has been the best player in the league.
Team Results aren’t the only deciding criteria. When was the last time POTY came from the actual league champions?
Can’t see Henderson win it, the only Liverpool players With a chance are Mane or Trent
i think alisson should also be in with a shout.
ok, he's had a very good defence in front of him. but he's missed 10 games and yet is only 1 clean sheet away from the golden gloves., playing approx 600-900 minutes less than any other top contender in the top 10.
875 minutes less than the only goalkeeper with more clean sheets currently.
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 7 minutes ago
As for getting beat due to key men not turning up each time - we had as more attempts against Southampton than Leicester did when they scored 9! I just don’t think you can read into the number of losses this year as Liverpool had the league sewn up so early, in the same way I doubt many Liverpool fans read into the defeat at the Etihad the other week very much.
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Yes if you watched both Spurs performances vs Liverpool and Man City up until every shot was taken - but not the outcome. You would put money on Liverpool being the side we beat/drew against. The 2-2 especially, i haven’t seen us dominated so badly since AVB era. City’s finishing/handball rule was disgraceful.
Look lfc fans can be biased or they can accpet reality like me
KDB deserves POTY. 100%
If we want to talk a team of the year type conversation then fine. Lets add in all the shouts for LFC players.
I'd be happy to see a 21 year old with masses of assists from right full as YPOTY as I don't agree with people up to 24 getting that award.
I would back KDB getting POTY.
comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 29 minutes ago
How is the voting done? Is it not one vote per player?
Liverpool players will possibly split their votes so unless the format has changed KDB is nailed on to get it and deservedly anyway as he has been the best player in the league.
Team Results aren’t the only deciding criteria. When was the last time POTY came from the actual league champions?
Can’t see Henderson win it, the only Liverpool players With a chance are Mane or Trent
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Yeah but I don't think you are allowed to vote for people in your own team.
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 7 minutes ago
As for getting beat due to key men not turning up each time - we had as more attempts against Southampton than Leicester did when they scored 9! I just don’t think you can read into the number of losses this year as Liverpool had the league sewn up so early, in the same way I doubt many Liverpool fans read into the defeat at the Etihad the other week very much.
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Yes if you watched both Spurs performances vs Liverpool and Man City up until every shot was taken - but not the outcome. You would put money on Liverpool being the side we beat/drew against. The 2-2 especially, i haven’t seen us dominated so badly since AVB era. City’s finishing/handball rule was disgraceful.
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I wonder if they will look at that handball rule. It doesn’t seem to make much sense to me to be honest. Same with players being offside by a fingernail.
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 7 minutes ago
As for getting beat due to key men not turning up each time - we had as more attempts against Southampton than Leicester did when they scored 9! I just don’t think you can read into the number of losses this year as Liverpool had the league sewn up so early, in the same way I doubt many Liverpool fans read into the defeat at the Etihad the other week very much.
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Yes if you watched both Spurs performances vs Liverpool and Man City up until every shot was taken - but not the outcome. You would put money on Liverpool being the side we beat/drew against. The 2-2 especially, i haven’t seen us dominated so badly since AVB era. City’s finishing/handball rule was disgraceful.
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I wonder if they will look at that handball rule. It doesn’t seem to make much sense to me to be honest. Same with players being offside by a fingernail.
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it's changing for next season. It was never going to last after the state of the goals they disallowed.
Is it? Have you just seen Bournemouth’s? Disallowed but looked like he was nudged into the way of the ball to me
Think it has to be KDB really. In a similar fashion to when salah won it 2 years ago, he won that as he beat the goals record for a 38 game season. He got the award despite the fact city romped the league and got 100 points.
If KDB breaks the assist record, which he will, then it deserves to be acknowledged.
Henderson will get the football writers award and rightfully so.
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 4 hours, 8 minutes ago
KDB really hasn’t struggled for consistency what nonsense. 3 of the 9 losses he didn’t start (2 he didn’t play) and he scored or assisted in another two disproving that remark. He is on course for a PL record for assists. It isn’t even a debate.
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I’ve just checked the games in question.
He featured in 7 of the 9 defeats. Not playing in the other two doesn’t help the conversation because it still amounts to 9 fixtures where he either played and couldn’t stop his team from losing or didn’t feature at all.
That’s an awful lot of games to consider when assessing the player of the year.
Compare that to Van Dijk who hasn’t missed a game (I think and has pretty much been perfect now for 2 and a half years.
I’ve no doubt that whilst KDB is the best player in the league, Van Dijk has performed at a higher level and more regularly.
“I’ve no doubt that whilst KDB is the best player in the league, Van Dijk has performed at a higher level and more regularly.”
I think you’d have to watch both play every week to be able to make a stake on that tbh
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 4 hours, 8 minutes ago
KDB really hasn’t struggled for consistency what nonsense. 3 of the 9 losses he didn’t start (2 he didn’t play) and he scored or assisted in another two disproving that remark. He is on course for a PL record for assists. It isn’t even a debate.
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I’ve just checked the games in question.
He featured in 7 of the 9 defeats. Not playing in the other two doesn’t help the conversation because it still amounts to 9 fixtures where he either played and couldn’t stop his team from losing or didn’t feature at all.
That’s an awful lot of games to consider when assessing the player of the year.
Compare that to Van Dijk who hasn’t missed a game (I think and has pretty much been perfect now for 2 and a half years.
I’ve no doubt that whilst KDB is the best player in the league, Van Dijk has performed at a higher level and more regularly.
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Would have saved more time if you wrote ‘I didn’t read your post’
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 2 hours, 47 minutes ago
Is it? Have you just seen Bournemouth’s? Disallowed but looked like he was nudged into the way of the ball to me
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Yeah. You can literally kick the ball against your opponents hand and if a goal results it's handball. Ridiculous.
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 4 hours, 8 minutes ago
KDB really hasn’t struggled for consistency what nonsense. 3 of the 9 losses he didn’t start (2 he didn’t play) and he scored or assisted in another two disproving that remark. He is on course for a PL record for assists. It isn’t even a debate.
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I’ve just checked the games in question.
He featured in 7 of the 9 defeats. Not playing in the other two doesn’t help the conversation because it still amounts to 9 fixtures where he either played and couldn’t stop his team from losing or didn’t feature at all.
That’s an awful lot of games to consider when assessing the player of the year.
Compare that to Van Dijk who hasn’t missed a game (I think and has pretty much been perfect now for 2 and a half years.
I’ve no doubt that whilst KDB is the best player in the league, Van Dijk has performed at a higher level and more regularly.
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Would have saved more time if you wrote ‘I didn’t read your post’
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If your logic is ‘he scored in a defeat therefore’ then I don’t think that’s the best rebuttal.
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posted on 9/7/20
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 53 minutes ago
Ramos is the best CB - not just in the world currently but he’s arguably the greatest defender of all-time.
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You can tell the pubs have reopened
posted on 9/7/20
KDB really hasn’t struggled for consistency what nonsense. 3 of the 9 losses he didn’t start (2 he didn’t play) and he scored or assisted in another two disproving that remark. He is on course for a PL record for assists. It isn’t even a debate.
posted on 9/7/20
De Bruyne has been our only consistent player to be fair, usually there is a few up there, Bernardo, Fernandinho, Laporte, Sterling, Aguero, but De Bruyne has been head and shoulders above the rest of the squad this season on a consistent basis.
So yeah not sure I agree with your analysis at all tbh.
posted on 9/7/20
As for getting beat due to key men not turning up each time - we had as more attempts against Southampton than Leicester did when they scored 9! I just don’t think you can read into the number of losses this year as Liverpool had the league sewn up so early, in the same way I doubt many Liverpool fans read into the defeat at the Etihad the other week very much.
posted on 9/7/20
How is the voting done? Is it not one vote per player?
Liverpool players will possibly split their votes so unless the format has changed KDB is nailed on to get it and deservedly anyway as he has been the best player in the league.
Team Results aren’t the only deciding criteria. When was the last time POTY came from the actual league champions?
Can’t see Henderson win it, the only Liverpool players With a chance are Mane or Trent
posted on 9/7/20
i think alisson should also be in with a shout.
ok, he's had a very good defence in front of him. but he's missed 10 games and yet is only 1 clean sheet away from the golden gloves., playing approx 600-900 minutes less than any other top contender in the top 10.
875 minutes less than the only goalkeeper with more clean sheets currently.
posted on 9/7/20
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 7 minutes ago
As for getting beat due to key men not turning up each time - we had as more attempts against Southampton than Leicester did when they scored 9! I just don’t think you can read into the number of losses this year as Liverpool had the league sewn up so early, in the same way I doubt many Liverpool fans read into the defeat at the Etihad the other week very much.
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Yes if you watched both Spurs performances vs Liverpool and Man City up until every shot was taken - but not the outcome. You would put money on Liverpool being the side we beat/drew against. The 2-2 especially, i haven’t seen us dominated so badly since AVB era. City’s finishing/handball rule was disgraceful.
posted on 9/7/20
Look lfc fans can be biased or they can accpet reality like me
KDB deserves POTY. 100%
If we want to talk a team of the year type conversation then fine. Lets add in all the shouts for LFC players.
I'd be happy to see a 21 year old with masses of assists from right full as YPOTY as I don't agree with people up to 24 getting that award.
I would back KDB getting POTY.
posted on 9/7/20
KDB for me.
posted on 9/7/20
comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 29 minutes ago
How is the voting done? Is it not one vote per player?
Liverpool players will possibly split their votes so unless the format has changed KDB is nailed on to get it and deservedly anyway as he has been the best player in the league.
Team Results aren’t the only deciding criteria. When was the last time POTY came from the actual league champions?
Can’t see Henderson win it, the only Liverpool players With a chance are Mane or Trent
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Yeah but I don't think you are allowed to vote for people in your own team.
posted on 9/7/20
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 7 minutes ago
As for getting beat due to key men not turning up each time - we had as more attempts against Southampton than Leicester did when they scored 9! I just don’t think you can read into the number of losses this year as Liverpool had the league sewn up so early, in the same way I doubt many Liverpool fans read into the defeat at the Etihad the other week very much.
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Yes if you watched both Spurs performances vs Liverpool and Man City up until every shot was taken - but not the outcome. You would put money on Liverpool being the side we beat/drew against. The 2-2 especially, i haven’t seen us dominated so badly since AVB era. City’s finishing/handball rule was disgraceful.
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I wonder if they will look at that handball rule. It doesn’t seem to make much sense to me to be honest. Same with players being offside by a fingernail.
posted on 9/7/20
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 7 minutes ago
As for getting beat due to key men not turning up each time - we had as more attempts against Southampton than Leicester did when they scored 9! I just don’t think you can read into the number of losses this year as Liverpool had the league sewn up so early, in the same way I doubt many Liverpool fans read into the defeat at the Etihad the other week very much.
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Yes if you watched both Spurs performances vs Liverpool and Man City up until every shot was taken - but not the outcome. You would put money on Liverpool being the side we beat/drew against. The 2-2 especially, i haven’t seen us dominated so badly since AVB era. City’s finishing/handball rule was disgraceful.
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I wonder if they will look at that handball rule. It doesn’t seem to make much sense to me to be honest. Same with players being offside by a fingernail.
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it's changing for next season. It was never going to last after the state of the goals they disallowed.
posted on 9/7/20
Is it? Have you just seen Bournemouth’s? Disallowed but looked like he was nudged into the way of the ball to me
posted on 9/7/20
Think it has to be KDB really. In a similar fashion to when salah won it 2 years ago, he won that as he beat the goals record for a 38 game season. He got the award despite the fact city romped the league and got 100 points.
If KDB breaks the assist record, which he will, then it deserves to be acknowledged.
Henderson will get the football writers award and rightfully so.
posted on 9/7/20
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 4 hours, 8 minutes ago
KDB really hasn’t struggled for consistency what nonsense. 3 of the 9 losses he didn’t start (2 he didn’t play) and he scored or assisted in another two disproving that remark. He is on course for a PL record for assists. It isn’t even a debate.
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I’ve just checked the games in question.
He featured in 7 of the 9 defeats. Not playing in the other two doesn’t help the conversation because it still amounts to 9 fixtures where he either played and couldn’t stop his team from losing or didn’t feature at all.
That’s an awful lot of games to consider when assessing the player of the year.
Compare that to Van Dijk who hasn’t missed a game (I think and has pretty much been perfect now for 2 and a half years.
I’ve no doubt that whilst KDB is the best player in the league, Van Dijk has performed at a higher level and more regularly.
posted on 9/7/20
“I’ve no doubt that whilst KDB is the best player in the league, Van Dijk has performed at a higher level and more regularly.”
I think you’d have to watch both play every week to be able to make a stake on that tbh
posted on 9/7/20
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 4 hours, 8 minutes ago
KDB really hasn’t struggled for consistency what nonsense. 3 of the 9 losses he didn’t start (2 he didn’t play) and he scored or assisted in another two disproving that remark. He is on course for a PL record for assists. It isn’t even a debate.
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I’ve just checked the games in question.
He featured in 7 of the 9 defeats. Not playing in the other two doesn’t help the conversation because it still amounts to 9 fixtures where he either played and couldn’t stop his team from losing or didn’t feature at all.
That’s an awful lot of games to consider when assessing the player of the year.
Compare that to Van Dijk who hasn’t missed a game (I think and has pretty much been perfect now for 2 and a half years.
I’ve no doubt that whilst KDB is the best player in the league, Van Dijk has performed at a higher level and more regularly.
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Would have saved more time if you wrote ‘I didn’t read your post’
posted on 9/7/20
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 2 hours, 47 minutes ago
Is it? Have you just seen Bournemouth’s? Disallowed but looked like he was nudged into the way of the ball to me
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Yeah. You can literally kick the ball against your opponents hand and if a goal results it's handball. Ridiculous.
posted on 9/7/20
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 4 hours, 8 minutes ago
KDB really hasn’t struggled for consistency what nonsense. 3 of the 9 losses he didn’t start (2 he didn’t play) and he scored or assisted in another two disproving that remark. He is on course for a PL record for assists. It isn’t even a debate.
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I’ve just checked the games in question.
He featured in 7 of the 9 defeats. Not playing in the other two doesn’t help the conversation because it still amounts to 9 fixtures where he either played and couldn’t stop his team from losing or didn’t feature at all.
That’s an awful lot of games to consider when assessing the player of the year.
Compare that to Van Dijk who hasn’t missed a game (I think and has pretty much been perfect now for 2 and a half years.
I’ve no doubt that whilst KDB is the best player in the league, Van Dijk has performed at a higher level and more regularly.
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Would have saved more time if you wrote ‘I didn’t read your post’
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If your logic is ‘he scored in a defeat therefore’ then I don’t think that’s the best rebuttal.
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