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posted on 16/7/20

Agenda

Absolutely pathetic attitude to play the victim . Sometimes you get the rub of the green and sometimes you don’t.

Look at the tackle on Greenwood against Southampton that was clearly a red. VAR had a look and did nothing. If he gets sent off we comfortably win the game.

These things happen. Don’t have to feckin cry about it

posted on 16/7/20

United fans really have no reason to moan about decisions and VAR.

posted on 16/7/20

comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 minute ago
United fans really have no reason to moan about decisions and VAR.
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He isn't complaining about VAR. The Arsenal fan is.

posted on 16/7/20

I dont ven think its the big decisions like ths that are the biggest problem. Its the small ones. When we attack let a foul go so they win possession and when they are attacking give every tackle as a foul so they have a free kick in dangerous positions. The Brighton game being a good example

It makes such a massive difference in possession and territory that it is a game changer. I'd say this was the biggest influence in 5 dropped points since the restart. the games agaisnst Brighton and Leicester were hugely influenced by dodgy refs.

posted on 16/7/20

I didn't think it was a red card.

Also didn't think the Greenwood tackle was either.

People really need to understand that these are opinions and not fact - you haven't been shafted simply because the referee disagreed with you.

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 16/7/20

comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 25 minutes ago
United fans really have no reason to moan about decisions and VAR.
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Show me on this thread a United fan moaning about VAR

posted on 16/7/20

comment by The Wonky Kronke (U16927)
posted 39 minutes ago
I dont ven think its the big decisions like ths that are the biggest problem. Its the small ones. When we attack let a foul go so they win possession and when they are attacking give every tackle as a foul so they have a free kick in dangerous positions. The Brighton game being a good example

It makes such a massive difference in possession and territory that it is a game changer. I'd say this was the biggest influence in 5 dropped points since the restart. the games agaisnst Brighton and Leicester were hugely influenced by dodgy refs.
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Good comment, it's the small decisions that really sway most close games.

comment by Radical (U8691)

posted on 16/7/20

Whether there's an agenda or not the refs in this country are bloody useless. Isn't Mike Riley still in charge? Says a lot.

posted on 16/7/20

How much more evidence is needed that there is an agenda against the team? How much more can we take as fans? We pay money to follow a team that participates in a corrupt system. It's sickening
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This is pathetic

posted on 16/7/20

comment by Buggerof (U1250)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 25 minutes ago
United fans really have no reason to moan about decisions and VAR.
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Show me on this thread a United fan moaning about VAR
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I really can't. That's because a United fan shouldnt moan about VAR at all.

posted on 16/7/20

Theres a difference between moaning about VAR decisions and claiming that there is a systemic agenda against your team

posted on 16/7/20

comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 1 minute ago
Theres a difference between moaning about VAR decisions and claiming that there is a systemic agenda against your team
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Fact is we are seldom on the winning end of VAR decisions this season. VAR cost us about 10 points this season.

comment by Ruiney (U1005)

posted on 16/7/20

Sure it has

posted on 16/7/20

comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 1 minute ago
Theres a difference between moaning about VAR decisions and claiming that there is a systemic agenda against your team
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Fact is we are seldom on the winning end of VAR decisions this season. VAR cost us about 10 points this season.
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In a shocking turn of events, the more a team has the ball and the more time a team spends in the opposition half, the more referee decisions go in their favour.

posted on 16/7/20

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 1 minute ago
Theres a difference between moaning about VAR decisions and claiming that there is a systemic agenda against your team
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Fact is we are seldom on the winning end of VAR decisions this season. VAR cost us about 10 points this season.
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In a shocking turn of events, the more a team has the ball and the more time a team spends in the opposition half, the more referee decisions go in their favour.
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Thank you for sharing your whole wisdom with us. Have a nice day.

posted on 16/7/20

You're welcome.

Hopefully one day soon you can understand the madness of claiming that referees are biased against your club.

posted on 16/7/20

Most tackles look brutal if you freeze frame the point of contact. In real time it's a different situation, which is why common sense prevails, and there aren't 10 players sent off each game 😅

posted on 16/7/20

comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 6 minutes ago
Most tackles look brutal if you freeze frame the point of contact. In real time it's a different situation, which is why common sense prevails, and there aren't 10 players sent off each game 😅
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Nketiah was sent off after a 'freeze frame'.

posted on 16/7/20

comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTION (U8735)
posted 2 hours, 12 minutes ago
Agenda

Absolutely pathetic attitude to play the victim. Sometimes you get the rub of the green and sometimes you don’t.

Look at the tackle on Greenwood against Southampton that was clearly a red. VAR had a look and did nothing. If he gets sent off we comfortably win the game.

These things happen. Don’t have to feckin cry about it
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Show me where we got rub of the green? How am I able to find 4 examples of this very unique situation just in one season. How blind can you be?

posted on 16/7/20

VAR just highlights how bad and inconsistent refs are. It is frustrating watching other teams get soft penalty after soft penalty but then see Pepe very blatantly tripped and VAR just ignoring it, or Sokratis being clearly held and VAR sleeping.

However, when you go past inconsistent VARs who are scared of making calls that go against on field officials and look deeper at things like the disallowed Sokratis goal where the VAR has overruled the ref and fabricated a foul then you question if there are inconsistencies or just pure corruption.

Then you remember Mike Riley is their boss and know for certain it is the latter.

posted on 16/7/20

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
You're welcome.

Hopefully one day soon you can understand the madness of claiming that referees are biased against your club.
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Well refs and VAR dont make it easy for Arsenal fans not to claim there is a bias against us.

As a supporter for another club you can't see it of course.

comment by Jay. (U16498)

posted on 16/7/20

3 very similar challenges in the last week or so, and the only one given as a red was the one the ref actually looked at again.I think that all 3 of them were worthy of a red card, and I think it's ridiculous how reluctant either the referee is to go to the screens, or for the VAR team to recommend he take a look at them.

The main problem that VAR is highlighting is how crap the VAR officials are. We've been asking for help with the decisions forever, and it's seemingly not being used for that.

I don't think that there is any bias against one team, or for another (if there were, especially towards United, then the challenge on Greenwood would surely have been actually given as a red?)

posted on 16/7/20

Lacazette’s goal against Liverpool should’ve been cancelled for a brutal foul on VVD, that would’ve been consistent with the corrupt farce of VAR. It’s unfair on Liverpool tbh considering that Chambers foul and cancelled goal.

posted on 16/7/20

comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
You're welcome.

Hopefully one day soon you can understand the madness of claiming that referees are biased against your club.
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Well refs and VAR dont make it easy for Arsenal fans not to claim there is a bias against us.

As a supporter for another club you can't see it of course.
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That's right - everyone else is unable to see what is 'certain corruption' as DJ puts it.

Jesus wept.

posted on 16/7/20

comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 hour, 50 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 1 minute ago
Theres a difference between moaning about VAR decisions and claiming that there is a systemic agenda against your team
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Fact is we are seldom on the winning end of VAR decisions this season. VAR cost us about 10 points this season.
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So are you essentially saying that you wont be playing CL football next season because of VAR

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