comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 14 minutes ago
Most teams competing in Europe seem to play their youth teams anyway. So what's the point?
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Er no they don`t. Total nonsense.
Top4 minimum from Jose this season or it is failure. No excuses. A cup would be a bonus.
I can understand your point and frustrations on the matter of us potentially withdrawing from the competition, it is a case of when it comes to trophies beggars (us) can't really be choosers right?
However I would also point out that we really do not have the squad for an incredibly long season due to having to now qualify for the group stages of Europa.
It really is time we won a trophy but it is imperative that we are wise about this, withdrawing from the league cup may seem against the idea of winning trophies, but if I had to choose out of winning the Europa and potentially getting into the champions league or winning the league cup, the benefits of Europa are far greater imho. Then again if we don't withdraw it might mean more games for the kids so silver linings to every cloud.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 14 minutes ago
Most teams competing in Europe seem to play their youth teams anyway. So what's the point?
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Er no they don`t. Total nonsense.
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In your game against Colchester last year you played Parrot, Skipp, Wanyama, Walker-Peters, Davies, Tangana and Gazzaniga.
That's more than half a team of reserves.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 59 minutes ago
I seem to remember it all being about top 4 and spurs not being bothered about the cups? How things change.
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Its always been about the top 4 and most would take 4th and no cup over 5th and the league cup.
However, the need to win a trophy has become of increased importance as we have won so few in the EPL era and its now becoming a real problem and piles on the pressure more each season.
I think most would hope that if you are of sufficient quality to achieve top 4 then you are also good enough to win a trophy....wigan and pompey have won cups and been relegated, so top 4 is the measure of quality and the cups should follow if you are of that standard....however, like i say, despite being of good quality we have failed to win cups and now its just a monkey on our back that needs shifting....hence Jose.
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What a soulless approach to football. Especially from a supporter.
I don't suppose the individual motivations that guide your players also feature in this narrative.
Sandy, you refer to the FA Cup as being a 'reserve competition' these days. What then does that make the League Cup? A youth competition?
How important then would winning it really be to Spurs, even with such a small minded manager as Jose at the helm?
I mean Liverpool played a youth team, if teams don't want to take it seriously then fine but they should all be putting out teams. Those who don't deserve the humiliating defeats their B teams will take.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 4 hours ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 8 minutes ago
Would be really interesting to see you draw up a fixture schedule for next season where Spurs are competing in the league, the League Cup, the FA cup and the Europa League.
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Modern clubs have massive squads, so no real excuses. Back in the day when pitch conditions were awful, squads of 17/18 competed in 50-60 games without a problem. Modern footballers with everything going for them, seem to be able to barely play 30 games a season. I don`t care the game may be faster, it is less physical, very little tackling, pitches are like billiard tables. They have it as easy as they come, and yet somehow they cannot play more than one game a week.
I think the past month though has shown that games in quick succession do not really impact on players as much as some would have us think. Spurs played nine games in just about a month with practically the same team. So they can do it if they need to.
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This isn't true Sandy
comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
Top4 minimum from Jose this season or it is failure. No excuses. A cup would be a bonus.
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Yes, I am sure he will be aiming for top four, but did any of our previous managers make top four in their first full seasons, so you can hardly say it is a failure, especially if he lands a trophy.
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 14 minutes ago
Most teams competing in Europe seem to play their youth teams anyway. So what's the point?
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Er no they don`t. Total nonsense.
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In your game against Colchester last year you played Parrot, Skipp, Wanyama, Walker-Peters, Davies, Tangana and Gazzaniga.
That's more than half a team of reserves.
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Yes but it wasn`t the youth team, and we lost the game anyway, proving my point, you cannot just chuck together a team and hope to beat any team you have to play.
Sandy being able to write an article with an actual title that dosent continue into the main article.
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 33 seconds ago
Sandy being able to write an article with an actual title that dosent continue into the main article.
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Oh sorry, I didn't know writing an article on JA606 had to be a contender for the Booker Prize.
Sandy, a footballer's physical conditioning is completely different nowadays to what it was in the times you referred to.
So as not to knock either, you might say it's like comparing an off-road vehicle to a sports car - built differently to perform differently in different conditions.
Put a modern day footballer in those old conditions, and he might break down during the first half. Put one from the old days in today's game and he might be made to look like a tractor.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 hours ago
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 33 seconds ago
Sandy being able to write an article with an actual title that dosent continue into the main article.
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Oh sorry, I didn't know writing an article on JA606 had to be a contender for the Booker Prize.
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Articles can't win the Booker Prize.
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 5 hours, 28 minutes ago
Sandy, a footballer's physical conditioning is completely different nowadays to what it was in the times you referred to.
So as not to knock either, you might say it's like comparing an off-road vehicle to a sports car - built differently to perform differently in different conditions.
Put a modern day footballer in those old conditions, and he might break down during the first half. Put one from the old days in today's game and he might be made to look like a tractor.
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Nah, the old time players would easily adapt to today`s game. You either have or or you don`t. And there was a lot more that had it 30/40 years back than the modern players. Some of them I don`t know how they earn a living playing football. Just running about like in the modern game, does not in any way equate to being a good footballer.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 18 hours, 11 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 hours ago
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 33 seconds ago
Sandy being able to write an article with an actual title that dosent continue into the main article.
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Oh sorry, I didn't know writing an article on JA606 had to be a contender for the Booker Prize.
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Articles can't win the Booker Prize.
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Even if so sandys certainly wouldn’t with its daft way of not bothering with titles. It would be like picking up a book that has the name based on whatever was in the opening sentence
In The Beginning...
...God created the Heaven and Earth.
A bit longer than 'Bible'.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 25 seconds ago
In The Beginning...
...God created the Heaven and Earth.
A bit longer than 'Bible'.
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“ Among other public buildings in a certain town, which for many reasons it will be prudent to refrain from mentioning..”
— this was originally called Oliver Twist, until sandys rules came into effect.
I really enjoyed 'A well-known scientist (some say it was Bertrand Russell)
once gave a public lecture on astronomy.'
I found;
“3 May. Bistritz. Left Munich at 8.35pm, on 1 May, arriving at Vienna early next morning; should have arrived at 6.46pm, but train was an hour late.”
To be quite a scary book about vampires.
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 19 minutes ago
I found;
“3 May. Bistritz. Left Munich at 8.35pm, on 1 May, arriving at Vienna early next morning; should have arrived at 6.46pm, but train was an hour late.”
To be quite a scary book about vampires.
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It's no Booker Prize winner.
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posted on 3/8/20
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 14 minutes ago
Most teams competing in Europe seem to play their youth teams anyway. So what's the point?
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Er no they don`t. Total nonsense.
posted on 3/8/20
Top4 minimum from Jose this season or it is failure. No excuses. A cup would be a bonus.
posted on 3/8/20
I can understand your point and frustrations on the matter of us potentially withdrawing from the competition, it is a case of when it comes to trophies beggars (us) can't really be choosers right?
However I would also point out that we really do not have the squad for an incredibly long season due to having to now qualify for the group stages of Europa.
It really is time we won a trophy but it is imperative that we are wise about this, withdrawing from the league cup may seem against the idea of winning trophies, but if I had to choose out of winning the Europa and potentially getting into the champions league or winning the league cup, the benefits of Europa are far greater imho. Then again if we don't withdraw it might mean more games for the kids so silver linings to every cloud.
posted on 3/8/20
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 14 minutes ago
Most teams competing in Europe seem to play their youth teams anyway. So what's the point?
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Er no they don`t. Total nonsense.
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In your game against Colchester last year you played Parrot, Skipp, Wanyama, Walker-Peters, Davies, Tangana and Gazzaniga.
That's more than half a team of reserves.
posted on 3/8/20
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 59 minutes ago
I seem to remember it all being about top 4 and spurs not being bothered about the cups? How things change.
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Its always been about the top 4 and most would take 4th and no cup over 5th and the league cup.
However, the need to win a trophy has become of increased importance as we have won so few in the EPL era and its now becoming a real problem and piles on the pressure more each season.
I think most would hope that if you are of sufficient quality to achieve top 4 then you are also good enough to win a trophy....wigan and pompey have won cups and been relegated, so top 4 is the measure of quality and the cups should follow if you are of that standard....however, like i say, despite being of good quality we have failed to win cups and now its just a monkey on our back that needs shifting....hence Jose.
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What a soulless approach to football. Especially from a supporter.
I don't suppose the individual motivations that guide your players also feature in this narrative.
posted on 3/8/20
Sandy, you refer to the FA Cup as being a 'reserve competition' these days. What then does that make the League Cup? A youth competition?
How important then would winning it really be to Spurs, even with such a small minded manager as Jose at the helm?
posted on 3/8/20
I mean Liverpool played a youth team, if teams don't want to take it seriously then fine but they should all be putting out teams. Those who don't deserve the humiliating defeats their B teams will take.
posted on 3/8/20
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 4 hours ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 8 minutes ago
Would be really interesting to see you draw up a fixture schedule for next season where Spurs are competing in the league, the League Cup, the FA cup and the Europa League.
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Modern clubs have massive squads, so no real excuses. Back in the day when pitch conditions were awful, squads of 17/18 competed in 50-60 games without a problem. Modern footballers with everything going for them, seem to be able to barely play 30 games a season. I don`t care the game may be faster, it is less physical, very little tackling, pitches are like billiard tables. They have it as easy as they come, and yet somehow they cannot play more than one game a week.
I think the past month though has shown that games in quick succession do not really impact on players as much as some would have us think. Spurs played nine games in just about a month with practically the same team. So they can do it if they need to.
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This isn't true Sandy
posted on 3/8/20
comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
Top4 minimum from Jose this season or it is failure. No excuses. A cup would be a bonus.
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Yes, I am sure he will be aiming for top four, but did any of our previous managers make top four in their first full seasons, so you can hardly say it is a failure, especially if he lands a trophy.
posted on 3/8/20
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 14 minutes ago
Most teams competing in Europe seem to play their youth teams anyway. So what's the point?
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Er no they don`t. Total nonsense.
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In your game against Colchester last year you played Parrot, Skipp, Wanyama, Walker-Peters, Davies, Tangana and Gazzaniga.
That's more than half a team of reserves.
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Yes but it wasn`t the youth team, and we lost the game anyway, proving my point, you cannot just chuck together a team and hope to beat any team you have to play.
posted on 3/8/20
There is talk of
posted on 3/8/20
Sandy being able to write an article with an actual title that dosent continue into the main article.
posted on 3/8/20
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 33 seconds ago
Sandy being able to write an article with an actual title that dosent continue into the main article.
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Oh sorry, I didn't know writing an article on JA606 had to be a contender for the Booker Prize.
posted on 3/8/20
Sandy, a footballer's physical conditioning is completely different nowadays to what it was in the times you referred to.
So as not to knock either, you might say it's like comparing an off-road vehicle to a sports car - built differently to perform differently in different conditions.
Put a modern day footballer in those old conditions, and he might break down during the first half. Put one from the old days in today's game and he might be made to look like a tractor.
posted on 3/8/20
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 hours ago
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 33 seconds ago
Sandy being able to write an article with an actual title that dosent continue into the main article.
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Oh sorry, I didn't know writing an article on JA606 had to be a contender for the Booker Prize.
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Articles can't win the Booker Prize.
posted on 3/8/20
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 5 hours, 28 minutes ago
Sandy, a footballer's physical conditioning is completely different nowadays to what it was in the times you referred to.
So as not to knock either, you might say it's like comparing an off-road vehicle to a sports car - built differently to perform differently in different conditions.
Put a modern day footballer in those old conditions, and he might break down during the first half. Put one from the old days in today's game and he might be made to look like a tractor.
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Nah, the old time players would easily adapt to today`s game. You either have or or you don`t. And there was a lot more that had it 30/40 years back than the modern players. Some of them I don`t know how they earn a living playing football. Just running about like in the modern game, does not in any way equate to being a good footballer.
posted on 4/8/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 18 hours, 11 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 hours ago
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 33 seconds ago
Sandy being able to write an article with an actual title that dosent continue into the main article.
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Oh sorry, I didn't know writing an article on JA606 had to be a contender for the Booker Prize.
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Articles can't win the Booker Prize.
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Even if so sandys certainly wouldn’t with its daft way of not bothering with titles. It would be like picking up a book that has the name based on whatever was in the opening sentence
posted on 4/8/20
In The Beginning...
...God created the Heaven and Earth.
A bit longer than 'Bible'.
posted on 4/8/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 25 seconds ago
In The Beginning...
...God created the Heaven and Earth.
A bit longer than 'Bible'.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
“ Among other public buildings in a certain town, which for many reasons it will be prudent to refrain from mentioning..”
— this was originally called Oliver Twist, until sandys rules came into effect.
posted on 4/8/20
I really enjoyed 'A well-known scientist (some say it was Bertrand Russell)
once gave a public lecture on astronomy.'
posted on 4/8/20
I found;
“3 May. Bistritz. Left Munich at 8.35pm, on 1 May, arriving at Vienna early next morning; should have arrived at 6.46pm, but train was an hour late.”
To be quite a scary book about vampires.
posted on 4/8/20
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 19 minutes ago
I found;
“3 May. Bistritz. Left Munich at 8.35pm, on 1 May, arriving at Vienna early next morning; should have arrived at 6.46pm, but train was an hour late.”
To be quite a scary book about vampires.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's no Booker Prize winner.
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