Same as Bruno I refuse to get overly excited.
Been excited by many signings post SAF and they’ve either failed (Sanchez, Di Maria, Falcao, Bastian) or not live quite up to expectations (Lukaku, Pogba).
Not seen much of him but he has the attributes to succeed in the premier league. Very quick, skilful and has bags of goals and assists for Dortmund performing in the league and CL. This at the age of 20. Due to his age and the fact he is a English makes it different to many of the other big name signings such as Bastian, Di Maria, Falcao, Sanchez etc
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 1 minute ago
Not seen much of him but he has the attributes to succeed in the premier league. Very quick, skilful and has bags of goals and assists for Dortmund performing in the league and CL. This at the age of 20. Due to his age and the fact he is a English makes it different to many of the other big name signings such as Bastian, Di Maria, Falcao, Sanchez etc
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Agreed
As a possible generational talent I think we can allow ourselves the excitement. That could mean our forward line is sorted for the next five years at least.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
As a possible generational talent I think we can allow ourselves the excitement. That could mean our forward line is sorted for the next five years at least.
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Could be unstoppable if all 4 reach their potential but surely at some point one will fall behind.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 1 minute ago
Not seen much of him but he has the attributes to succeed in the premier league. Very quick, skilful and has bags of goals and assists for Dortmund performing in the league and CL. This at the age of 20. Due to his age and the fact he is a English makes it different to many of the other big name signings such as Bastian, Di Maria, Falcao, Sanchez etc
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the biggest advantage I can see is his age, I feel older attackers are set in their ways and struggle to adapt to new systems. Age was martial biggest advantage we gave him the benefit of youth when he stuggled.
With the fees involved in the sancho deal would fans give him the benefit of youth if he does not hit the ground running?
I haven’t been impressed in the few games I have seen him play and I am always wary of players from the German league.
Hopefully he can live up to the hype if the signing comes off.
Pretty low risk even if you spend 120m due to his age. Hed have to absolutely stink the place out for this to not end up being a deal in Uniteds favour.
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comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
I haven’t been impressed in the few games I have seen him play and I am always wary of players from the German league.
Hopefully he can live up to the hype if the signing comes off.
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Much more confident of him being a success under Ole than he would under Jose. Ole will love the fact he seems to know where the goal is. Always a risk in every signing though of course.
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 48 seconds ago
Pretty low risk even if you spend 120m due to his age. Hed have to absolutely stink the place out for this to not end up being a deal in Uniteds favour.
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Low risk how exactly? It's a hell of a lot of money you lose on him if he bombs.
comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 48 seconds ago
Pretty low risk even if you spend 120m due to his age. Hed have to absolutely stink the place out for this to not end up being a deal in Uniteds favour.
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Low risk how exactly? It's a hell of a lot of money you lose on him if he bombs.
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£120m is actually only one and a half year's worth of projected shirt sales. We will make a loss if we don't buy him.
I’ll be honest and say that I don’t watch Dortmund at all. Nor England when he has played for them.
I can’t come to any conclusions about him as stats don’t always tell the whole story.
By all accounts he has done well in the German league, and obviously given his age, he has time and potential to get better. Doesn’t always translate that he will be a success though.
I’ll probably delve more into his stats if or when we sign him. Until then, I’ll reserve giving an opinion on him.
I think the difference now is that our attacking players - well the good ones - are starting to actually play well. So naturally there will be more excitement about bringing a special talent into the club.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 30 seconds ago
I haven’t been impressed in the few games I have seen him play and I am always wary of players from the German league.
Hopefully he can live up to the hype if the signing comes off.
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I have the same impression. although there was one England game.
I remember the first time I saw some of the best attackers cr7, giggs, pogba, messi (u17 worldcup), martial, greenwood etc The feeling was wow, and I could not wait to tell everyone about the magical talent I had just seen.
I simply haven't had that feeling with sancho yet. But his stats are unbelievable and I am assuming / hoping everyone else is right
So to summarise quite a few posts, we want him if we get him, don't if we don't and a lot of us have never seen him play?
Let’s not sign him then, .
comment by Matth_2015 (U20438)
posted 1 minute ago
Let’s not sign him then,.
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right on queue Matth
love how you draw that conclusion instead of simply educating those like me who do not know better
and thanks for the 1 star
comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 48 seconds ago
Pretty low risk even if you spend 120m due to his age. Hed have to absolutely stink the place out for this to not end up being a deal in Uniteds favour.
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Low risk how exactly? It's a hell of a lot of money you lose on him if he bombs.
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He’d have to bomb pretty fecking hard not to get 120m worth out of him over his United career. You could get 10 or so seasons out of him
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 48 seconds ago
Pretty low risk even if you spend 120m due to his age. Hed have to absolutely stink the place out for this to not end up being a deal in Uniteds favour.
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Low risk how exactly? It's a hell of a lot of money you lose on him if he bombs.
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He’d have to bomb pretty fecking hard not to get 120m worth out of him over his United career. You could get 10 or so seasons out of him
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this is why I said age is his biggest plus. I have always loved Martial but at 50 million I understand why some wanted him to show more sooner. At 120 million will that patience still be there?
comment by Garner be a star (U13920)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 30 seconds ago
I haven’t been impressed in the few games I have seen him play and I am always wary of players from the German league.
Hopefully he can live up to the hype if the signing comes off.
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I have the same impression. although there was one England game.
I remember the first time I saw some of the best attackers cr7, giggs, pogba, messi (u17 worldcup), martial, greenwood etc The feeling was wow, and I could not wait to tell everyone about the magical talent I had just seen.
I simply haven't had that feeling with sancho yet. But his stats are unbelievable and I am assuming / hoping everyone else is right
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Sometimes a player can be better than their natural ability just by making the right decisions. I haven't seen loads of Sancho, but he usually seems to make the right decisions from what I have seen.
Just looking at his stats, he is averaging a goal or assist every 80 minutes in the German league. That's ridiculous for a 20 year old.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 second ago
Just looking at his stats, he is averaging a goal or assist every 80 minutes in the German league. That's ridiculous for a 20 year old.
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It is. The other noticeable thing from looking at his statistics is his versatility. He's played regularly in different attacking positions. This is why I don't buy into the theory that it will suddenly lead to Greenwood being benched indefinitely. I think it will just allow rotating of the attacking players. Like Rashford's form fell off a cliff at the end of the season. That wouldn't have been such an issue, if we had quality to replace him. Bruno too was tired and lacking in form, and Sancho would even be capable of playing in an attacking midfield role
I watched his 41 goals and assists compilation on youtube earlier.
He looks decent but a lot of his assists we basic passes that someone finished off well. His goals involved lots of goalkeeper and defender mistakes.
The quality in the Bundesliga is awful.
I fully expect him to struggle here (initially) bar some promising games against lower league teams. When the space is cut we'll see how creative he is.
For £100m it's a risk. Hope it works out though.
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posted on 3/8/20
Same as Bruno I refuse to get overly excited.
Been excited by many signings post SAF and they’ve either failed (Sanchez, Di Maria, Falcao, Bastian) or not live quite up to expectations (Lukaku, Pogba).
posted on 3/8/20
Not seen much of him but he has the attributes to succeed in the premier league. Very quick, skilful and has bags of goals and assists for Dortmund performing in the league and CL. This at the age of 20. Due to his age and the fact he is a English makes it different to many of the other big name signings such as Bastian, Di Maria, Falcao, Sanchez etc
posted on 3/8/20
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 1 minute ago
Not seen much of him but he has the attributes to succeed in the premier league. Very quick, skilful and has bags of goals and assists for Dortmund performing in the league and CL. This at the age of 20. Due to his age and the fact he is a English makes it different to many of the other big name signings such as Bastian, Di Maria, Falcao, Sanchez etc
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Agreed
posted on 3/8/20
As a possible generational talent I think we can allow ourselves the excitement. That could mean our forward line is sorted for the next five years at least.
posted on 3/8/20
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
As a possible generational talent I think we can allow ourselves the excitement. That could mean our forward line is sorted for the next five years at least.
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Could be unstoppable if all 4 reach their potential but surely at some point one will fall behind.
posted on 3/8/20
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 1 minute ago
Not seen much of him but he has the attributes to succeed in the premier league. Very quick, skilful and has bags of goals and assists for Dortmund performing in the league and CL. This at the age of 20. Due to his age and the fact he is a English makes it different to many of the other big name signings such as Bastian, Di Maria, Falcao, Sanchez etc
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Agreed
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the biggest advantage I can see is his age, I feel older attackers are set in their ways and struggle to adapt to new systems. Age was martial biggest advantage we gave him the benefit of youth when he stuggled.
With the fees involved in the sancho deal would fans give him the benefit of youth if he does not hit the ground running?
posted on 3/8/20
I haven’t been impressed in the few games I have seen him play and I am always wary of players from the German league.
Hopefully he can live up to the hype if the signing comes off.
posted on 3/8/20
Pretty low risk even if you spend 120m due to his age. Hed have to absolutely stink the place out for this to not end up being a deal in Uniteds favour.
posted on 3/8/20
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posted on 3/8/20
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
I haven’t been impressed in the few games I have seen him play and I am always wary of players from the German league.
Hopefully he can live up to the hype if the signing comes off.
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Much more confident of him being a success under Ole than he would under Jose. Ole will love the fact he seems to know where the goal is. Always a risk in every signing though of course.
posted on 3/8/20
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 48 seconds ago
Pretty low risk even if you spend 120m due to his age. Hed have to absolutely stink the place out for this to not end up being a deal in Uniteds favour.
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Low risk how exactly? It's a hell of a lot of money you lose on him if he bombs.
posted on 3/8/20
comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 48 seconds ago
Pretty low risk even if you spend 120m due to his age. Hed have to absolutely stink the place out for this to not end up being a deal in Uniteds favour.
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Low risk how exactly? It's a hell of a lot of money you lose on him if he bombs.
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£120m is actually only one and a half year's worth of projected shirt sales. We will make a loss if we don't buy him.
posted on 3/8/20
I’ll be honest and say that I don’t watch Dortmund at all. Nor England when he has played for them.
I can’t come to any conclusions about him as stats don’t always tell the whole story.
By all accounts he has done well in the German league, and obviously given his age, he has time and potential to get better. Doesn’t always translate that he will be a success though.
I’ll probably delve more into his stats if or when we sign him. Until then, I’ll reserve giving an opinion on him.
posted on 3/8/20
I think the difference now is that our attacking players - well the good ones - are starting to actually play well. So naturally there will be more excitement about bringing a special talent into the club.
posted on 3/8/20
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 30 seconds ago
I haven’t been impressed in the few games I have seen him play and I am always wary of players from the German league.
Hopefully he can live up to the hype if the signing comes off.
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I have the same impression. although there was one England game.
I remember the first time I saw some of the best attackers cr7, giggs, pogba, messi (u17 worldcup), martial, greenwood etc The feeling was wow, and I could not wait to tell everyone about the magical talent I had just seen.
I simply haven't had that feeling with sancho yet. But his stats are unbelievable and I am assuming / hoping everyone else is right
posted on 3/8/20
So to summarise quite a few posts, we want him if we get him, don't if we don't and a lot of us have never seen him play?
posted on 3/8/20
Let’s not sign him then, .
posted on 3/8/20
comment by Matth_2015 (U20438)
posted 1 minute ago
Let’s not sign him then,.
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right on queue Matth
love how you draw that conclusion instead of simply educating those like me who do not know better
posted on 3/8/20
and thanks for the 1 star
posted on 3/8/20
comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 48 seconds ago
Pretty low risk even if you spend 120m due to his age. Hed have to absolutely stink the place out for this to not end up being a deal in Uniteds favour.
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Low risk how exactly? It's a hell of a lot of money you lose on him if he bombs.
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He’d have to bomb pretty fecking hard not to get 120m worth out of him over his United career. You could get 10 or so seasons out of him
posted on 3/8/20
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 48 seconds ago
Pretty low risk even if you spend 120m due to his age. Hed have to absolutely stink the place out for this to not end up being a deal in Uniteds favour.
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Low risk how exactly? It's a hell of a lot of money you lose on him if he bombs.
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He’d have to bomb pretty fecking hard not to get 120m worth out of him over his United career. You could get 10 or so seasons out of him
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this is why I said age is his biggest plus. I have always loved Martial but at 50 million I understand why some wanted him to show more sooner. At 120 million will that patience still be there?
posted on 3/8/20
comment by Garner be a star (U13920)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 30 seconds ago
I haven’t been impressed in the few games I have seen him play and I am always wary of players from the German league.
Hopefully he can live up to the hype if the signing comes off.
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I have the same impression. although there was one England game.
I remember the first time I saw some of the best attackers cr7, giggs, pogba, messi (u17 worldcup), martial, greenwood etc The feeling was wow, and I could not wait to tell everyone about the magical talent I had just seen.
I simply haven't had that feeling with sancho yet. But his stats are unbelievable and I am assuming / hoping everyone else is right
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Sometimes a player can be better than their natural ability just by making the right decisions. I haven't seen loads of Sancho, but he usually seems to make the right decisions from what I have seen.
posted on 3/8/20
Just looking at his stats, he is averaging a goal or assist every 80 minutes in the German league. That's ridiculous for a 20 year old.
posted on 3/8/20
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 second ago
Just looking at his stats, he is averaging a goal or assist every 80 minutes in the German league. That's ridiculous for a 20 year old.
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It is. The other noticeable thing from looking at his statistics is his versatility. He's played regularly in different attacking positions. This is why I don't buy into the theory that it will suddenly lead to Greenwood being benched indefinitely. I think it will just allow rotating of the attacking players. Like Rashford's form fell off a cliff at the end of the season. That wouldn't have been such an issue, if we had quality to replace him. Bruno too was tired and lacking in form, and Sancho would even be capable of playing in an attacking midfield role
posted on 3/8/20
I watched his 41 goals and assists compilation on youtube earlier.
He looks decent but a lot of his assists we basic passes that someone finished off well. His goals involved lots of goalkeeper and defender mistakes.
The quality in the Bundesliga is awful.
I fully expect him to struggle here (initially) bar some promising games against lower league teams. When the space is cut we'll see how creative he is.
For £100m it's a risk. Hope it works out though.
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