It is amusing that Wolves, while signing the letter requesting for City to be banned, have now themselves been found to have breached FFP.
But I don’t want us, as fans, to go down this route of criticising other clubs, because all that will happen is fans of those clubs will just respond by being critical towards City, regardless of the fact that City have cleared their name and had the ban overturned.
In other words, they will just use their own clubs wrong doing to continue to attack City. I don’t see any positive in that.
Personally, I don’t actually care that Wolves have breached FFP. And it appears fans of other clubs don’t really care about it either. Nor do Wolves fans themselves care if Cinci is anything to go by.
Eh? Not me in denial. Wolves have clearly cheated and bent the rules to establish themselves. You somehow think Man City didn't
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 1 minute ago
It is amusing that Wolves, while signing the letter requesting for City to be banned, have now themselves been found to have breached FFP.
But I don’t want us, as fans, to go down this route of criticising other clubs, because all that will happen is fans of those clubs will just respond by being critical towards City, regardless of the fact that City have cleared their name and had the ban overturned.
In other words, they will just use their own clubs wrong doing to continue to attack City. I don’t see any positive in that.
Personally, I don’t actually care that Wolves have breached FFP. And it appears fans of other clubs don’t really care about it either. Nor do Wolves fans themselves care if Cinci is anything to go by.
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Only thing we care about is whether it could impact transfer spending going forward given we are already not allowed to do what other clubs did to establish themselves.
Write a letter:
Dear UEFA, sorry we broke the rules but Manchester City made us do it.
Seems football is rotten to the core.
Thankfully Liverpool shine through, like a beacon of decency, and honest fair play.🙂
#savingfootball.
comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the country---VAR 'not so fast'!! (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
The whole thing is farcical. These figures include our promotion year where we spent but obviously couldn't generate the same income as in the prem so next year it will be balanced as it is spread over three years.
But the real farce is that some clubs were able to cheat their way to the top, Man City and Chelsea to name two but now others are not allowed. Protecting the cartel.
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The only problem with this is that City didn't cheat. Nor did Chelsea.
Nor did Blackburn for that matter.
City's only crimes are that they dared to challenge the status quo and, refused to co-operate with an 'investigation' they knew to be flawed.
I love how FFP is suddenly a farce now it has been implemented properly.
I also admire your ability to rationalise the Wolves approach of spending beyond their means, in order to get to the Premier League, whilst simultaneously criticising City and Chelsea for spending money that was theirs to spend.
Irony doesn't even cover it. If by a man's words we know him, then you sir are a hypocrite.
comment by FishMCFC (U16301)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the country---VAR 'not so fast'!! (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
The whole thing is farcical. These figures include our promotion year where we spent but obviously couldn't generate the same income as in the prem so next year it will be balanced as it is spread over three years.
But the real farce is that some clubs were able to cheat their way to the top, Man City and Chelsea to name two but now others are not allowed. Protecting the cartel.
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The only problem with this is that City didn't cheat. Nor did Chelsea.
Nor did Blackburn for that matter.
City's only crimes are that they dared to challenge the status quo and, refused to co-operate with an 'investigation' they knew to be flawed.
I love how FFP is suddenly a farce now it has been implemented properly.
I also admire your ability to rationalise the Wolves approach of spending beyond their means, in order to get to the Premier League, whilst simultaneously criticising City and Chelsea for spending money that was theirs to spend.
Irony doesn't even cover it. If by a man's words we know him, then you sir are a hypocrite.
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Who is rationalising? We cheated. Point is that it is farcical that rules have been changed now to stop other clubs joining the big clubs. How in any world is that fair? We have the finances to do exactly what City and Chelsea did to get to the top but are not allowed to.
If any clubs owner has the money to invest in his club’s first team in order to improve his club, but isn’t allowed to do so, then it isn’t fair.
But you are being incredibly short sighted and ignorant of history by mentioning only City and Chelsea. Every big club throughout the world has done this prior to FFP being implemented. And prior to FFP it wasn’t seen as cheating, so the language you use is also flawed.
Chelsea went along with FFP, Mourinho was apparently a big fan after spending several £100m first.
As one of the Hateful 9, I'd say they are the worst hypocrites.
Who is rationalising? We cheated. Point is that it is farcical that rules have been changed now to stop other clubs joining the big clubs. How in any world is that fair? We have the finances to do exactly what City and Chelsea did to get to the top but are not allowed to.
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That's my point.
Those rules were brought in to stop clubs like City, yet you label them cheats without any basis on which to do so and whilst your club has followed the same model.
For the record, I don't consider Wolves to be cheats but their actions of late amount to nothing more than rank hypocrisy, given what we now know.
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comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the country---VAR 'not so fast'!! (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
The whole thing is farcical. These figures include our promotion year where we spent but obviously couldn't generate the same income as in the prem so next year it will be balanced as it is spread over three years.
But the real farce is that some clubs were able to cheat their way to the top, Man City and Chelsea to name two but now others are not allowed. Protecting the cartel.
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The only problem with this is that City didn't cheat. Nor did Chelsea.
Nor did Blackburn for that matter.
City's only crimes are that they dared to challenge the status quo and, refused to co-operate with an 'investigation' they knew to be flawed.
I love how FFP is suddenly a farce now it has been implemented properly.
I also admire your ability to rationalise the Wolves approach of spending beyond their means, in order to get to the Premier League, whilst simultaneously criticising City and Chelsea for spending money that was theirs to spend.
Irony doesn't even cover it. If by a man's words we know him, then you sir are a hypocrite.
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We have the finances to do exactly what City and Chelsea did to get to the top but are not allowed to.
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Eh?
So you think City and Chelsea cheated their way to the top, even though its beyond doubt that no actual cheating ever took place, but at the same time you're p-ssed that Wolves can't do the same cheating, even though it wasn't actually cheating....what?!
Genuinely no idea what you're actually arguing about
Didn’t Wolves do the double over Man City ?
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comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the country---VAR 'not so fast'!! (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
The whole thing is farcical. These figures include our promotion year where we spent but obviously couldn't generate the same income as in the prem so next year it will be balanced as it is spread over three years.
But the real farce is that some clubs were able to cheat their way to the top, Man City and Chelsea to name two but now others are not allowed. Protecting the cartel.
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The only problem with this is that City didn't cheat. Nor did Chelsea.
Nor did Blackburn for that matter.
City's only crimes are that they dared to challenge the status quo and, refused to co-operate with an 'investigation' they knew to be flawed.
I love how FFP is suddenly a farce now it has been implemented properly.
I also admire your ability to rationalise the Wolves approach of spending beyond their means, in order to get to the Premier League, whilst simultaneously criticising City and Chelsea for spending money that was theirs to spend.
Irony doesn't even cover it. If by a man's words we know him, then you sir are a hypocrite.
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We have the finances to do exactly what City and Chelsea did to get to the top but are not allowed to.
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Eh?
So you think City and Chelsea cheated their way to the top, even though its beyond doubt that no actual cheating ever took place, but at the same time you're p-ssed that Wolves can't do the same cheating, even though it wasn't actually cheating....what?!
Genuinely no idea what you're actually arguing about
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Chelsea and City cheated their way in, I want wolves to be given the same opportunities but we are not allowed those opportunities. It isn't complicated
“ I want wolves to be given the same opportunities but we are not allowed those opportunities. It isn't complicated”
Sounds like you need to get better at cheating
What do yo mean by 'cheat'?
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posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the country---VAR 'not so fast'!! (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
The whole thing is farcical. These figures include our promotion year where we spent but obviously couldn't generate the same income as in the prem so next year it will be balanced as it is spread over three years.
But the real farce is that some clubs were able to cheat their way to the top, Man City and Chelsea to name two but now others are not allowed. Protecting the cartel.
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The only problem with this is that City didn't cheat. Nor did Chelsea.
Nor did Blackburn for that matter.
City's only crimes are that they dared to challenge the status quo and, refused to co-operate with an 'investigation' they knew to be flawed.
I love how FFP is suddenly a farce now it has been implemented properly.
I also admire your ability to rationalise the Wolves approach of spending beyond their means, in order to get to the Premier League, whilst simultaneously criticising City and Chelsea for spending money that was theirs to spend.
Irony doesn't even cover it. If by a man's words we know him, then you sir are a hypocrite.
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We have the finances to do exactly what City and Chelsea did to get to the top but are not allowed to.
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Eh?
So you think City and Chelsea cheated their way to the top, even though its beyond doubt that no actual cheating ever took place, but at the same time you're p-ssed that Wolves can't do the same cheating, even though it wasn't actually cheating....what?!
Genuinely no idea what you're actually arguing about
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Chelsea and City cheated their way in, I want wolves to be given the same opportunities but we are not allowed those opportunities. It isn't complicated
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But didn't you by your own definition "cheat" your way into the top flight? Was that okay?
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posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the country---VAR 'not so fast'!! (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
The whole thing is farcical. These figures include our promotion year where we spent but obviously couldn't generate the same income as in the prem so next year it will be balanced as it is spread over three years.
But the real farce is that some clubs were able to cheat their way to the top, Man City and Chelsea to name two but now others are not allowed. Protecting the cartel.
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The only problem with this is that City didn't cheat. Nor did Chelsea.
Nor did Blackburn for that matter.
City's only crimes are that they dared to challenge the status quo and, refused to co-operate with an 'investigation' they knew to be flawed.
I love how FFP is suddenly a farce now it has been implemented properly.
I also admire your ability to rationalise the Wolves approach of spending beyond their means, in order to get to the Premier League, whilst simultaneously criticising City and Chelsea for spending money that was theirs to spend.
Irony doesn't even cover it. If by a man's words we know him, then you sir are a hypocrite.
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We have the finances to do exactly what City and Chelsea did to get to the top but are not allowed to.
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Eh?
So you think City and Chelsea cheated their way to the top, even though its beyond doubt that no actual cheating ever took place, but at the same time you're p-ssed that Wolves can't do the same cheating, even though it wasn't actually cheating....what?!
Genuinely no idea what you're actually arguing about
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Chelsea and City cheated their way in, I want wolves to be given the same opportunities but we are not allowed those opportunities. It isn't complicated
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But didn't you by your own definition "cheat" your way into the top flight? Was that okay?
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Where have I once said we haven't cheated?
No, City and Chelsea did not cheat their way in.
Chelsea “got in” many years before FFP existed. City got in just before FFP was implemented.
You really need to get a grip. Yes, it’s unfair that Wolves aren’t allowed to spend money their owners can afford. I totally get that. That doesn’t make other clubs who were able to spend money (their owners could afford) before FFP existed cheats.
Because before FFP, an owner investing money into the team via transfers and wages, wasn’t cheating. Every club did it, and it was allowed.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 7 minutes ago
What do yo mean by 'cheat'?
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Call it what you want. You got to the top through obscene amounts of spending through a billionaire coming into the club. It isn't allowed now and the fact it was then doesn't make it any less cheating your way to the top.
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comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the country---VAR 'not so fast'!! (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
The whole thing is farcical. These figures include our promotion year where we spent but obviously couldn't generate the same income as in the prem so next year it will be balanced as it is spread over three years.
But the real farce is that some clubs were able to cheat their way to the top, Man City and Chelsea to name two but now others are not allowed. Protecting the cartel.
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The only problem with this is that City didn't cheat. Nor did Chelsea.
Nor did Blackburn for that matter.
City's only crimes are that they dared to challenge the status quo and, refused to co-operate with an 'investigation' they knew to be flawed.
I love how FFP is suddenly a farce now it has been implemented properly.
I also admire your ability to rationalise the Wolves approach of spending beyond their means, in order to get to the Premier League, whilst simultaneously criticising City and Chelsea for spending money that was theirs to spend.
Irony doesn't even cover it. If by a man's words we know him, then you sir are a hypocrite.
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We have the finances to do exactly what City and Chelsea did to get to the top but are not allowed to.
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Eh?
So you think City and Chelsea cheated their way to the top, even though its beyond doubt that no actual cheating ever took place, but at the same time you're p-ssed that Wolves can't do the same cheating, even though it wasn't actually cheating....what?!
Genuinely no idea what you're actually arguing about
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Chelsea and City cheated their way in, I want wolves to be given the same opportunities but we are not allowed those opportunities. It isn't complicated
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But didn't you by your own definition "cheat" your way into the top flight? Was that okay?
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Where have I once said we haven't cheated?
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It's more that you're saying other teams cheated when in actual fact, you're the only ones who have
Then you've got the nerve to seemingly be annoyed that some clubs supposedly cheated (they did not), but only because you can't do it too haha.
Your club has far more nerve though, lobbying to try and get City some further punishment when they've been proven innocent and you lot guilty. Proper lowlife behaviour.
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comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the country---VAR 'not so fast'!! (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
The whole thing is farcical. These figures include our promotion year where we spent but obviously couldn't generate the same income as in the prem so next year it will be balanced as it is spread over three years.
But the real farce is that some clubs were able to cheat their way to the top, Man City and Chelsea to name two but now others are not allowed. Protecting the cartel.
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The only problem with this is that City didn't cheat. Nor did Chelsea.
Nor did Blackburn for that matter.
City's only crimes are that they dared to challenge the status quo and, refused to co-operate with an 'investigation' they knew to be flawed.
I love how FFP is suddenly a farce now it has been implemented properly.
I also admire your ability to rationalise the Wolves approach of spending beyond their means, in order to get to the Premier League, whilst simultaneously criticising City and Chelsea for spending money that was theirs to spend.
Irony doesn't even cover it. If by a man's words we know him, then you sir are a hypocrite.
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We have the finances to do exactly what City and Chelsea did to get to the top but are not allowed to.
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Eh?
So you think City and Chelsea cheated their way to the top, even though its beyond doubt that no actual cheating ever took place, but at the same time you're p-ssed that Wolves can't do the same cheating, even though it wasn't actually cheating....what?!
Genuinely no idea what you're actually arguing about
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Chelsea and City cheated their way in, I want wolves to be given the same opportunities but we are not allowed those opportunities. It isn't complicated
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But didn't you by your own definition "cheat" your way into the top flight? Was that okay?
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Where have I once said we haven't cheated?
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It's more that you're saying other teams cheated when in actual fact, you're the only ones who have
Then you've got the nerve to seemingly be annoyed that some clubs supposedly cheated (they did not), but only because you can't do it too haha.
Your club has far more nerve though, lobbying to try and get City some further punishment when they've been proven innocent and you lot guilty. Proper lowlife behaviour.
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Ah well, at least it is something you won't have to worry about in the near future
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comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 7 minutes ago
What do yo mean by 'cheat'?
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Call it what you want. You got to the top through obscene amounts of spending through a billionaire coming into the club. It isn't allowed now and the fact it was then doesn't make it any less cheating your way to the top.
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I didn't realise Professional Football wasn't a business anymore.
Maybe you were born 100 years too late and yearn for a time when sport was played by Gentlemen for no financial reward.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/11/guo-guangchang-chinas-warren-buffet-goes-missing-amid-corruption-crackdown
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/11/guo-guangchang-chinas-warren-buffet-goes-missing-amid-corruption-crackdown
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. What?!? No way? Our billionaire owner is dodgy as Fack? I just don't believe it!!!
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posted on 8/8/20
It is amusing that Wolves, while signing the letter requesting for City to be banned, have now themselves been found to have breached FFP.
But I don’t want us, as fans, to go down this route of criticising other clubs, because all that will happen is fans of those clubs will just respond by being critical towards City, regardless of the fact that City have cleared their name and had the ban overturned.
In other words, they will just use their own clubs wrong doing to continue to attack City. I don’t see any positive in that.
Personally, I don’t actually care that Wolves have breached FFP. And it appears fans of other clubs don’t really care about it either. Nor do Wolves fans themselves care if Cinci is anything to go by.
posted on 8/8/20
Eh? Not me in denial. Wolves have clearly cheated and bent the rules to establish themselves. You somehow think Man City didn't
posted on 8/8/20
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 1 minute ago
It is amusing that Wolves, while signing the letter requesting for City to be banned, have now themselves been found to have breached FFP.
But I don’t want us, as fans, to go down this route of criticising other clubs, because all that will happen is fans of those clubs will just respond by being critical towards City, regardless of the fact that City have cleared their name and had the ban overturned.
In other words, they will just use their own clubs wrong doing to continue to attack City. I don’t see any positive in that.
Personally, I don’t actually care that Wolves have breached FFP. And it appears fans of other clubs don’t really care about it either. Nor do Wolves fans themselves care if Cinci is anything to go by.
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Only thing we care about is whether it could impact transfer spending going forward given we are already not allowed to do what other clubs did to establish themselves.
posted on 8/8/20
Write a letter:
Dear UEFA, sorry we broke the rules but Manchester City made us do it.
posted on 8/8/20
Seems football is rotten to the core.
Thankfully Liverpool shine through, like a beacon of decency, and honest fair play.🙂
#savingfootball.
posted on 8/8/20
comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the country---VAR 'not so fast'!! (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
The whole thing is farcical. These figures include our promotion year where we spent but obviously couldn't generate the same income as in the prem so next year it will be balanced as it is spread over three years.
But the real farce is that some clubs were able to cheat their way to the top, Man City and Chelsea to name two but now others are not allowed. Protecting the cartel.
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The only problem with this is that City didn't cheat. Nor did Chelsea.
Nor did Blackburn for that matter.
City's only crimes are that they dared to challenge the status quo and, refused to co-operate with an 'investigation' they knew to be flawed.
I love how FFP is suddenly a farce now it has been implemented properly.
I also admire your ability to rationalise the Wolves approach of spending beyond their means, in order to get to the Premier League, whilst simultaneously criticising City and Chelsea for spending money that was theirs to spend.
Irony doesn't even cover it. If by a man's words we know him, then you sir are a hypocrite.
posted on 8/8/20
comment by FishMCFC (U16301)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the country---VAR 'not so fast'!! (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
The whole thing is farcical. These figures include our promotion year where we spent but obviously couldn't generate the same income as in the prem so next year it will be balanced as it is spread over three years.
But the real farce is that some clubs were able to cheat their way to the top, Man City and Chelsea to name two but now others are not allowed. Protecting the cartel.
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The only problem with this is that City didn't cheat. Nor did Chelsea.
Nor did Blackburn for that matter.
City's only crimes are that they dared to challenge the status quo and, refused to co-operate with an 'investigation' they knew to be flawed.
I love how FFP is suddenly a farce now it has been implemented properly.
I also admire your ability to rationalise the Wolves approach of spending beyond their means, in order to get to the Premier League, whilst simultaneously criticising City and Chelsea for spending money that was theirs to spend.
Irony doesn't even cover it. If by a man's words we know him, then you sir are a hypocrite.
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Who is rationalising? We cheated. Point is that it is farcical that rules have been changed now to stop other clubs joining the big clubs. How in any world is that fair? We have the finances to do exactly what City and Chelsea did to get to the top but are not allowed to.
posted on 8/8/20
If any clubs owner has the money to invest in his club’s first team in order to improve his club, but isn’t allowed to do so, then it isn’t fair.
But you are being incredibly short sighted and ignorant of history by mentioning only City and Chelsea. Every big club throughout the world has done this prior to FFP being implemented. And prior to FFP it wasn’t seen as cheating, so the language you use is also flawed.
posted on 8/8/20
Chelsea went along with FFP, Mourinho was apparently a big fan after spending several £100m first.
As one of the Hateful 9, I'd say they are the worst hypocrites.
posted on 8/8/20
Who is rationalising? We cheated. Point is that it is farcical that rules have been changed now to stop other clubs joining the big clubs. How in any world is that fair? We have the finances to do exactly what City and Chelsea did to get to the top but are not allowed to.
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That's my point.
Those rules were brought in to stop clubs like City, yet you label them cheats without any basis on which to do so and whilst your club has followed the same model.
For the record, I don't consider Wolves to be cheats but their actions of late amount to nothing more than rank hypocrisy, given what we now know.
posted on 8/8/20
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comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the country---VAR 'not so fast'!! (U11551)
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comment by FishMCFC (U16301)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the country---VAR 'not so fast'!! (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
The whole thing is farcical. These figures include our promotion year where we spent but obviously couldn't generate the same income as in the prem so next year it will be balanced as it is spread over three years.
But the real farce is that some clubs were able to cheat their way to the top, Man City and Chelsea to name two but now others are not allowed. Protecting the cartel.
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The only problem with this is that City didn't cheat. Nor did Chelsea.
Nor did Blackburn for that matter.
City's only crimes are that they dared to challenge the status quo and, refused to co-operate with an 'investigation' they knew to be flawed.
I love how FFP is suddenly a farce now it has been implemented properly.
I also admire your ability to rationalise the Wolves approach of spending beyond their means, in order to get to the Premier League, whilst simultaneously criticising City and Chelsea for spending money that was theirs to spend.
Irony doesn't even cover it. If by a man's words we know him, then you sir are a hypocrite.
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We have the finances to do exactly what City and Chelsea did to get to the top but are not allowed to.
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Eh?
So you think City and Chelsea cheated their way to the top, even though its beyond doubt that no actual cheating ever took place, but at the same time you're p-ssed that Wolves can't do the same cheating, even though it wasn't actually cheating....what?!
Genuinely no idea what you're actually arguing about
posted on 8/8/20
Didn’t Wolves do the double over Man City ?
posted on 8/8/20
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comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the country---VAR 'not so fast'!! (U11551)
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comment by FishMCFC (U16301)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the country---VAR 'not so fast'!! (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
The whole thing is farcical. These figures include our promotion year where we spent but obviously couldn't generate the same income as in the prem so next year it will be balanced as it is spread over three years.
But the real farce is that some clubs were able to cheat their way to the top, Man City and Chelsea to name two but now others are not allowed. Protecting the cartel.
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The only problem with this is that City didn't cheat. Nor did Chelsea.
Nor did Blackburn for that matter.
City's only crimes are that they dared to challenge the status quo and, refused to co-operate with an 'investigation' they knew to be flawed.
I love how FFP is suddenly a farce now it has been implemented properly.
I also admire your ability to rationalise the Wolves approach of spending beyond their means, in order to get to the Premier League, whilst simultaneously criticising City and Chelsea for spending money that was theirs to spend.
Irony doesn't even cover it. If by a man's words we know him, then you sir are a hypocrite.
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We have the finances to do exactly what City and Chelsea did to get to the top but are not allowed to.
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Eh?
So you think City and Chelsea cheated their way to the top, even though its beyond doubt that no actual cheating ever took place, but at the same time you're p-ssed that Wolves can't do the same cheating, even though it wasn't actually cheating....what?!
Genuinely no idea what you're actually arguing about
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Chelsea and City cheated their way in, I want wolves to be given the same opportunities but we are not allowed those opportunities. It isn't complicated
posted on 8/8/20
“ I want wolves to be given the same opportunities but we are not allowed those opportunities. It isn't complicated”
Sounds like you need to get better at cheating
posted on 8/8/20
What do yo mean by 'cheat'?
posted on 8/8/20
comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the country---VAR 'not so fast'!! (U11551)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the country---VAR 'not so fast'!! (U11551)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by FishMCFC (U16301)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the country---VAR 'not so fast'!! (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
The whole thing is farcical. These figures include our promotion year where we spent but obviously couldn't generate the same income as in the prem so next year it will be balanced as it is spread over three years.
But the real farce is that some clubs were able to cheat their way to the top, Man City and Chelsea to name two but now others are not allowed. Protecting the cartel.
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The only problem with this is that City didn't cheat. Nor did Chelsea.
Nor did Blackburn for that matter.
City's only crimes are that they dared to challenge the status quo and, refused to co-operate with an 'investigation' they knew to be flawed.
I love how FFP is suddenly a farce now it has been implemented properly.
I also admire your ability to rationalise the Wolves approach of spending beyond their means, in order to get to the Premier League, whilst simultaneously criticising City and Chelsea for spending money that was theirs to spend.
Irony doesn't even cover it. If by a man's words we know him, then you sir are a hypocrite.
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We have the finances to do exactly what City and Chelsea did to get to the top but are not allowed to.
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Eh?
So you think City and Chelsea cheated their way to the top, even though its beyond doubt that no actual cheating ever took place, but at the same time you're p-ssed that Wolves can't do the same cheating, even though it wasn't actually cheating....what?!
Genuinely no idea what you're actually arguing about
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Chelsea and City cheated their way in, I want wolves to be given the same opportunities but we are not allowed those opportunities. It isn't complicated
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But didn't you by your own definition "cheat" your way into the top flight? Was that okay?
posted on 8/8/20
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the country---VAR 'not so fast'!! (U11551)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the country---VAR 'not so fast'!! (U11551)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by FishMCFC (U16301)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the country---VAR 'not so fast'!! (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
The whole thing is farcical. These figures include our promotion year where we spent but obviously couldn't generate the same income as in the prem so next year it will be balanced as it is spread over three years.
But the real farce is that some clubs were able to cheat their way to the top, Man City and Chelsea to name two but now others are not allowed. Protecting the cartel.
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The only problem with this is that City didn't cheat. Nor did Chelsea.
Nor did Blackburn for that matter.
City's only crimes are that they dared to challenge the status quo and, refused to co-operate with an 'investigation' they knew to be flawed.
I love how FFP is suddenly a farce now it has been implemented properly.
I also admire your ability to rationalise the Wolves approach of spending beyond their means, in order to get to the Premier League, whilst simultaneously criticising City and Chelsea for spending money that was theirs to spend.
Irony doesn't even cover it. If by a man's words we know him, then you sir are a hypocrite.
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We have the finances to do exactly what City and Chelsea did to get to the top but are not allowed to.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Eh?
So you think City and Chelsea cheated their way to the top, even though its beyond doubt that no actual cheating ever took place, but at the same time you're p-ssed that Wolves can't do the same cheating, even though it wasn't actually cheating....what?!
Genuinely no idea what you're actually arguing about
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Chelsea and City cheated their way in, I want wolves to be given the same opportunities but we are not allowed those opportunities. It isn't complicated
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But didn't you by your own definition "cheat" your way into the top flight? Was that okay?
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Where have I once said we haven't cheated?
posted on 8/8/20
No, City and Chelsea did not cheat their way in.
Chelsea “got in” many years before FFP existed. City got in just before FFP was implemented.
You really need to get a grip. Yes, it’s unfair that Wolves aren’t allowed to spend money their owners can afford. I totally get that. That doesn’t make other clubs who were able to spend money (their owners could afford) before FFP existed cheats.
Because before FFP, an owner investing money into the team via transfers and wages, wasn’t cheating. Every club did it, and it was allowed.
posted on 8/8/20
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 7 minutes ago
What do yo mean by 'cheat'?
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Call it what you want. You got to the top through obscene amounts of spending through a billionaire coming into the club. It isn't allowed now and the fact it was then doesn't make it any less cheating your way to the top.
posted on 8/8/20
comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the country---VAR 'not so fast'!! (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the country---VAR 'not so fast'!! (U11551)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the country---VAR 'not so fast'!! (U11551)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by FishMCFC (U16301)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the country---VAR 'not so fast'!! (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
The whole thing is farcical. These figures include our promotion year where we spent but obviously couldn't generate the same income as in the prem so next year it will be balanced as it is spread over three years.
But the real farce is that some clubs were able to cheat their way to the top, Man City and Chelsea to name two but now others are not allowed. Protecting the cartel.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The only problem with this is that City didn't cheat. Nor did Chelsea.
Nor did Blackburn for that matter.
City's only crimes are that they dared to challenge the status quo and, refused to co-operate with an 'investigation' they knew to be flawed.
I love how FFP is suddenly a farce now it has been implemented properly.
I also admire your ability to rationalise the Wolves approach of spending beyond their means, in order to get to the Premier League, whilst simultaneously criticising City and Chelsea for spending money that was theirs to spend.
Irony doesn't even cover it. If by a man's words we know him, then you sir are a hypocrite.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We have the finances to do exactly what City and Chelsea did to get to the top but are not allowed to.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Eh?
So you think City and Chelsea cheated their way to the top, even though its beyond doubt that no actual cheating ever took place, but at the same time you're p-ssed that Wolves can't do the same cheating, even though it wasn't actually cheating....what?!
Genuinely no idea what you're actually arguing about
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Chelsea and City cheated their way in, I want wolves to be given the same opportunities but we are not allowed those opportunities. It isn't complicated
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But didn't you by your own definition "cheat" your way into the top flight? Was that okay?
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Where have I once said we haven't cheated?
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It's more that you're saying other teams cheated when in actual fact, you're the only ones who have
Then you've got the nerve to seemingly be annoyed that some clubs supposedly cheated (they did not), but only because you can't do it too haha.
Your club has far more nerve though, lobbying to try and get City some further punishment when they've been proven innocent and you lot guilty. Proper lowlife behaviour.
posted on 8/8/20
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the country---VAR 'not so fast'!! (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the country---VAR 'not so fast'!! (U11551)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the country---VAR 'not so fast'!! (U11551)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by FishMCFC (U16301)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the country---VAR 'not so fast'!! (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
The whole thing is farcical. These figures include our promotion year where we spent but obviously couldn't generate the same income as in the prem so next year it will be balanced as it is spread over three years.
But the real farce is that some clubs were able to cheat their way to the top, Man City and Chelsea to name two but now others are not allowed. Protecting the cartel.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The only problem with this is that City didn't cheat. Nor did Chelsea.
Nor did Blackburn for that matter.
City's only crimes are that they dared to challenge the status quo and, refused to co-operate with an 'investigation' they knew to be flawed.
I love how FFP is suddenly a farce now it has been implemented properly.
I also admire your ability to rationalise the Wolves approach of spending beyond their means, in order to get to the Premier League, whilst simultaneously criticising City and Chelsea for spending money that was theirs to spend.
Irony doesn't even cover it. If by a man's words we know him, then you sir are a hypocrite.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We have the finances to do exactly what City and Chelsea did to get to the top but are not allowed to.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Eh?
So you think City and Chelsea cheated their way to the top, even though its beyond doubt that no actual cheating ever took place, but at the same time you're p-ssed that Wolves can't do the same cheating, even though it wasn't actually cheating....what?!
Genuinely no idea what you're actually arguing about
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Chelsea and City cheated their way in, I want wolves to be given the same opportunities but we are not allowed those opportunities. It isn't complicated
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But didn't you by your own definition "cheat" your way into the top flight? Was that okay?
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Where have I once said we haven't cheated?
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It's more that you're saying other teams cheated when in actual fact, you're the only ones who have
Then you've got the nerve to seemingly be annoyed that some clubs supposedly cheated (they did not), but only because you can't do it too haha.
Your club has far more nerve though, lobbying to try and get City some further punishment when they've been proven innocent and you lot guilty. Proper lowlife behaviour.
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Ah well, at least it is something you won't have to worry about in the near future
posted on 8/8/20
comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the countr... (U11551)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 7 minutes ago
What do yo mean by 'cheat'?
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Call it what you want. You got to the top through obscene amounts of spending through a billionaire coming into the club. It isn't allowed now and the fact it was then doesn't make it any less cheating your way to the top.
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I didn't realise Professional Football wasn't a business anymore.
Maybe you were born 100 years too late and yearn for a time when sport was played by Gentlemen for no financial reward.
posted on 8/8/20
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/11/guo-guangchang-chinas-warren-buffet-goes-missing-amid-corruption-crackdown
posted on 8/8/20
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 5 minutes ago
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/11/guo-guangchang-chinas-warren-buffet-goes-missing-amid-corruption-crackdown
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. What?!? No way? Our billionaire owner is dodgy as Fack? I just don't believe it!!!
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