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In work poverty is a big issue. Families who work but outgoings are greater than incomings, net result people go hungry. They are paying the price for surviving honestly by working.
Record numbers are relying on food banks to feed their families, that's people from all walks of life during these difficult times but sadly it's the kids from working class, low income backgrounds that are hit hardest. Families who rely on hand outs from the state.
In excess of 3m kids live in poverty in the UK. 3m, in 21st Century Britain, let that sink in. We don't see this poverty like we do in 3rd world countries because it's all hidden away in social housing. But what baffles me is why do we have poverty in a country that is supported by the state like no other?
Austerity could be a big reason, benefits have been cut severely, affecting people more in economically depressed regions of England, mostly the north. People living beyond their means is another big factor, they are literally surviving hand to mouth.
The Tory government are the kings of u turns, they'll cave in and back Marcus Rashford's appeal but unless we tackle the root causes of poverty in the UK it will be forgotten in a few months.
Poverty in the UK is a dirty little secret that the political elite don't like to admit let alone do anything to fix. They can start by reforming the benefit system so it rewards families who work, rewards low income households.
OP, I understand your point. 3 whys
ask yourself why to any problem 3 times to get closer to the real root of issues. Many like you rightly pointed out are only interested in the surface solutions without digging deeper.
Now practice what you are preaching by asking why? Why would people advocate so strongly fo free meal when the root issue is poverty (or something else). My conclusion is while it is superficial solution it is something that is easily acheived compared to more deep rooted issues.
Thee irony here is I said easily achieved but in reality that has not even been the case. We live in a society where it is impossible to agree to get hungry kids free meal despite having one of the world's more prosperous economy. Now imagine trying to tackle deeper issues
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comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 6 hours, 13 minutes ago
In work poverty is a big issue. Families who work but outgoings are greater than incomings, net result people go hungry. They are paying the price for surviving honestly by working.
Record numbers are relying on food banks to feed their families, that's people from all walks of life during these difficult times but sadly it's the kids from working class, low income backgrounds that are hit hardest. Families who rely on hand outs from the state.
In excess of 3m kids live in poverty in the UK. 3m, in 21st Century Britain, let that sink in. We don't see this poverty like we do in 3rd world countries because it's all hidden away in social housing. But what baffles me is why do we have poverty in a country that is supported by the state like no other?
Austerity could be a big reason, benefits have been cut severely, affecting people more in economically depressed regions of England, mostly the north. People living beyond their means is another big factor, they are literally surviving hand to mouth.
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This. The UK is one of the world's richest but also most unequal countries. In a country with democratic systems this can only be sustained by ensuring myths prevail that suggest the poor deserve their fate and that we're running out of resources due to grasping people who we shouldn't sympathise with.
About three quarters of the kids who qualify for free school meals have parents in in-work poverty. But go on Tory MP Twitter accounts (let alone their surrogates) and you'll see a world of vicious fantasies where feeding kids is counterproductive because it will free up parents' money to spend on crack dens.
A serious number of people have been convinced that scroungers and refugees are the fundamental problems facing our country. That's why we have the scandal of wealthy corporations paying workers less than enough to live on and then limited tax on their massive profits, and friends of the government with no expertise getting fat contracts to botch out essential services. I was thinking, perhaps they would agree to give food to hungry children if we said we're okay for them to outsource the job to one of their rich supporters. Meet them in the middle.
In the hungry kids case I would think there are several reasons.
One thing that slightly peeves me is when people blame the parents. Not that they aren't at fault sometimes, but the kids are still hungry and need feeding.
I look at some “parents” with kids and I can understand why the kids need free meals. Spending a tenner a day (I think, don’t smoke) on a pack of ciggies, buying loads of scratch cards while the kids are asking for something in the shop to be shouted “I haven’t got any money” at them
I'd argue that Rashford has framed it perfectly... He pinpointed the actual, core issue.. That children are going hungry. He is saying that the issues that lead to that are for the politicians to work out, but he wants to make sure those kids don't remain hungry.
By doing this, he takes himself away from the politics and makes any rebuff much harder, as his opposition are always arguing against the core concept of feeding hungry children, rather than the socio-economic issues that surround it.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 6 hours, 13 minutes ago
In work poverty is a big issue. Families who work but outgoings are greater than incomings, net result people go hungry. They are paying the price for surviving honestly by working.
Record numbers are relying on food banks to feed their families, that's people from all walks of life during these difficult times but sadly it's the kids from working class, low income backgrounds that are hit hardest. Families who rely on hand outs from the state.
In excess of 3m kids live in poverty in the UK. 3m, in 21st Century Britain, let that sink in. We don't see this poverty like we do in 3rd world countries because it's all hidden away in social housing. But what baffles me is why do we have poverty in a country that is supported by the state like no other?
Austerity could be a big reason, benefits have been cut severely, affecting people more in economically depressed regions of England, mostly the north. People living beyond their means is another big factor, they are literally surviving hand to mouth.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This. The UK is one of the world's richest but also most unequal countries. In a country with democratic systems this can only be sustained by ensuring myths prevail that suggest the poor deserve their fate and that we're running out of resources due to grasping people who we shouldn't sympathise with.
About three quarters of the kids who qualify for free school meals have parents in in-work poverty. But go on Tory MP Twitter accounts (let alone their surrogates) and you'll see a world of vicious fantasies where feeding kids is counterproductive because it will free up parents' money to spend on crack dens.
A serious number of people have been convinced that scroungers and refugees are the fundamental problems facing our country. That's why we have the scandal of wealthy corporations paying workers less than enough to live on and then limited tax on their massive profits, and friends of the government with no expertise getting fat contracts to botch out essential services. I was thinking, perhaps they would agree to give food to hungry children if we said we're okay for them to outsource the job to one of their rich supporters. Meet them in the middle.
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What a complete mischaracterisation of the opposing view RR. Some extreme idiots might think that way but you’re making out that serious numbers of people think that way.
Ultimately this country provides a lot and in terms of family allowance it provides £21.50 a week for the first child. £93 a month is enough to feed a child, if people are sensible with their finances and do what they can to save and work, they will then prosper in this country.
Of course some peoples’ circumstances changes, job loss, health etc but prudent financial planning plus the government support that is in place will see the children with food on the table.
Poverty in the UK is a dirty little secret that the political elite don't like to admit let alone do anything to fix.
++
It really isn't. the Liberal left have been banging on about the unfair distribution of wealth in the UK for hundreds of years.
Unfortunately the rich media barons and the ruling classes have derived and mocked these questioning and probing political views of those as either cranks or dangerous, radical, leftist, extremists.
As a result the 'less thinking' members in our society, who are easily lead and willing to conform to the whims of their perceived 'betters', mainly due to ignorance and a lack of information and understanding, who are easily influenced by the political ruling elite and media channels and conform as they are told to, and will vote to keep the ruling classes in power, who really don't give a monkeys about the plight of the poor, unless it suits them financially. Even though the vast majority of these people have struggles in their own lives, which they are told to blame on others.
As a poor person you only get the wealth and opportunity that the rich will concede to you.
But they can't work that out and why.
The majority of regular people who now think Rashy is wonderful will still politically support the politicians who seek to destroy his in initiative, when push comes to shove.
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comment by RB&W (U21434)
posted 5 minutes ago
Poverty in the UK is a dirty little secret that the political elite don't like to admit let alone do anything to fix.
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It really isn't. the Liberal left have been banging on about the unfair distribution of wealth in the UK for hundreds of years.
Unfortunately the rich media barons and the ruling classes have derived and mocked these questioning and probing political views of those as either cranks or dangerous, radical, leftist, extremists.
As a result the 'less thinking' members in our society, who are easily lead and willing to conform to the whims of their perceived 'betters', mainly due to ignorance and a lack of information and understanding, who are easily influenced by the political ruling elite and media channels and conform as they are told to, and will vote to keep the ruling classes in power, who really don't give a monkeys about the plight of the poor, unless it suits them financially. Even though the vast majority of these people have struggles in their own lives, which they are told to blame on others.
As a poor person you only get the wealth and opportunity that the rich will concede to you.
But they can't work that out and why.
The majority of regular people who now think Rashy is wonderful will still politically support the politicians who seek to destroy his in initiative, when push comes to shove.
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When were the liberals last in power to make a change with a majority government?!
Oh yes, never!
It’s a basic human right for kids to have food.
++
Of course it is. Starving kids is any society is obscene.
What you are talking about Nohlman is a completely different issue. That of trying to eradicate bad parenting and encourage responsible parenting.
Which is down to adult education.
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - Battling the ener... (U2958)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
I'd argue that Rashford has framed it perfectly... He pinpointed the actual, core issue.. That children are going hungry. He is saying that the issues that lead to that are for the politicians to work out, but he wants to make sure those kids don't remain hungry.
By doing this, he takes himself away from the politics and makes any rebuff much harder, as his opposition are always arguing against the core concept of feeding hungry children, rather than the socio-economic issues that surround it.
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It is not society's role to fix the core issues, it's the role of government who have failed to reform the benefit system for decades.
We should be rewarding working, low income, often single parents who have to hold down numerous jobs just to survive.
comment by RB&W (U21434)
posted 3 minutes ago
It’s a basic human right for kids to have food.
++
Of course it is. Starving kids is any society is obscene.
What you are talking about Nohlman is a completely different issue. That of trying to eradicate bad parenting and encourage responsible parenting.
Which is down to adult education.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Moreso in a society that belongs in a top 6 economy. It's a disgrace.
comment by He’s our centre half! He’s our num... (U22158)
posted 2 hours, 40 minutes ago
I look at some “parents” with kids and I can understand why the kids need free meals. Spending a tenner a day (I think, don’t smoke) on a pack of ciggies, buying loads of scratch cards while the kids are asking for something in the shop to be shouted “I haven’t got any money” at them
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It could be down to a number of issues like alcohol abuse, gambling addiction, etc.. that sees families eat badly or not eat all.
Living beyond your means is another big factor. Low income families are often indebted, they rely on credit cards to supplement their lifestyle, that lifestyle is often unsustainable, something or someone always suffers.
When were the liberals last in power to make a change with a majority government?!
Oh yes, never!
++
Never is a long time.
Study modern, British political and social History from the age of Enlightenment up to the modern day. It will help you answer that question. Also some cracking stories.
There have been many landmark Acts of Parliament in education, trade, social, agriculture, political sectors, read by enlightened, liberal (Doves) Governments and Prime Ministers, of all political parties (and even by a few Hawks under pressure) that have shaped our society to what it is today.
Yes with this current extra rightwing GVT we are taking backwards steps, but they will eventually go as long as Democracy continues and hopefully we can keep on progressing.
It’s a neat trick the Tories have pulled. Making people demonise parents that smoke or drink rather than corporations that suck billions out of the country.
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comment by Robb Pochettino (U22311)
posted 15 minutes ago
It’s a neat trick the Tories have pulled. Making people demonise parents that smoke or drink rather than corporations that suck billions out of the country.
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I'm no fan of the tories, however my kids are my kids. If my smoking or drinking is depriving my kids of food it's in me. I don't need politicians or rich people to tell me that.
Harsh as it sounds little keanu or tiffany don't need the latest 3 wheel pushchair and baby nikes if they aren't being fed properly
I agree education is needed, as someone mentioned above. That education used to come from family and peers.
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robb Pochettino (U22311)
posted 9 minutes ago
It’s a neat trick the Tories have pulled. Making people demonise parents that smoke or drink rather than corporations that suck billions out of the country.
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Having you not been paying attention? Divide and conquer never went away. Immigration, BLM, benefits, Brexit, etc, etc.
The funny this is, we all buy into it. 😂😂🤣🤣
----------------------------------------------------------------------
no truer facts
and you can go back in history for even more example
Like I have always said the issue with society comes down to haves and have nots. A very small percent have the majority of power/resources. Those that don't are kept in check by the masses who are given narratives that demonises the have nots.
Kids are starving, ssh , lets not talk about that, let's talk about some horrible parents instead is just 1 example.
and also a promise they could one day become part of the haves.
Live in a society that rewards laziness. So woman and men who cannot afford to raise children properly, will continue to have them, and expect somebody else to foot the bill. Sane type of people who wont encourage their children in school. And the cycle continues.
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posted on 24/10/20
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posted on 24/10/20
In work poverty is a big issue. Families who work but outgoings are greater than incomings, net result people go hungry. They are paying the price for surviving honestly by working.
Record numbers are relying on food banks to feed their families, that's people from all walks of life during these difficult times but sadly it's the kids from working class, low income backgrounds that are hit hardest. Families who rely on hand outs from the state.
In excess of 3m kids live in poverty in the UK. 3m, in 21st Century Britain, let that sink in. We don't see this poverty like we do in 3rd world countries because it's all hidden away in social housing. But what baffles me is why do we have poverty in a country that is supported by the state like no other?
Austerity could be a big reason, benefits have been cut severely, affecting people more in economically depressed regions of England, mostly the north. People living beyond their means is another big factor, they are literally surviving hand to mouth.
posted on 24/10/20
The Tory government are the kings of u turns, they'll cave in and back Marcus Rashford's appeal but unless we tackle the root causes of poverty in the UK it will be forgotten in a few months.
Poverty in the UK is a dirty little secret that the political elite don't like to admit let alone do anything to fix. They can start by reforming the benefit system so it rewards families who work, rewards low income households.
posted on 24/10/20
OP, I understand your point. 3 whys
ask yourself why to any problem 3 times to get closer to the real root of issues. Many like you rightly pointed out are only interested in the surface solutions without digging deeper.
Now practice what you are preaching by asking why? Why would people advocate so strongly fo free meal when the root issue is poverty (or something else). My conclusion is while it is superficial solution it is something that is easily acheived compared to more deep rooted issues.
Thee irony here is I said easily achieved but in reality that has not even been the case. We live in a society where it is impossible to agree to get hungry kids free meal despite having one of the world's more prosperous economy. Now imagine trying to tackle deeper issues
posted on 24/10/20
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posted on 24/10/20
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 6 hours, 13 minutes ago
In work poverty is a big issue. Families who work but outgoings are greater than incomings, net result people go hungry. They are paying the price for surviving honestly by working.
Record numbers are relying on food banks to feed their families, that's people from all walks of life during these difficult times but sadly it's the kids from working class, low income backgrounds that are hit hardest. Families who rely on hand outs from the state.
In excess of 3m kids live in poverty in the UK. 3m, in 21st Century Britain, let that sink in. We don't see this poverty like we do in 3rd world countries because it's all hidden away in social housing. But what baffles me is why do we have poverty in a country that is supported by the state like no other?
Austerity could be a big reason, benefits have been cut severely, affecting people more in economically depressed regions of England, mostly the north. People living beyond their means is another big factor, they are literally surviving hand to mouth.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This. The UK is one of the world's richest but also most unequal countries. In a country with democratic systems this can only be sustained by ensuring myths prevail that suggest the poor deserve their fate and that we're running out of resources due to grasping people who we shouldn't sympathise with.
About three quarters of the kids who qualify for free school meals have parents in in-work poverty. But go on Tory MP Twitter accounts (let alone their surrogates) and you'll see a world of vicious fantasies where feeding kids is counterproductive because it will free up parents' money to spend on crack dens.
A serious number of people have been convinced that scroungers and refugees are the fundamental problems facing our country. That's why we have the scandal of wealthy corporations paying workers less than enough to live on and then limited tax on their massive profits, and friends of the government with no expertise getting fat contracts to botch out essential services. I was thinking, perhaps they would agree to give food to hungry children if we said we're okay for them to outsource the job to one of their rich supporters. Meet them in the middle.
posted on 24/10/20
In the hungry kids case I would think there are several reasons.
One thing that slightly peeves me is when people blame the parents. Not that they aren't at fault sometimes, but the kids are still hungry and need feeding.
posted on 24/10/20
I look at some “parents” with kids and I can understand why the kids need free meals. Spending a tenner a day (I think, don’t smoke) on a pack of ciggies, buying loads of scratch cards while the kids are asking for something in the shop to be shouted “I haven’t got any money” at them
posted on 24/10/20
I'd argue that Rashford has framed it perfectly... He pinpointed the actual, core issue.. That children are going hungry. He is saying that the issues that lead to that are for the politicians to work out, but he wants to make sure those kids don't remain hungry.
By doing this, he takes himself away from the politics and makes any rebuff much harder, as his opposition are always arguing against the core concept of feeding hungry children, rather than the socio-economic issues that surround it.
posted on 24/10/20
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 6 hours, 13 minutes ago
In work poverty is a big issue. Families who work but outgoings are greater than incomings, net result people go hungry. They are paying the price for surviving honestly by working.
Record numbers are relying on food banks to feed their families, that's people from all walks of life during these difficult times but sadly it's the kids from working class, low income backgrounds that are hit hardest. Families who rely on hand outs from the state.
In excess of 3m kids live in poverty in the UK. 3m, in 21st Century Britain, let that sink in. We don't see this poverty like we do in 3rd world countries because it's all hidden away in social housing. But what baffles me is why do we have poverty in a country that is supported by the state like no other?
Austerity could be a big reason, benefits have been cut severely, affecting people more in economically depressed regions of England, mostly the north. People living beyond their means is another big factor, they are literally surviving hand to mouth.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This. The UK is one of the world's richest but also most unequal countries. In a country with democratic systems this can only be sustained by ensuring myths prevail that suggest the poor deserve their fate and that we're running out of resources due to grasping people who we shouldn't sympathise with.
About three quarters of the kids who qualify for free school meals have parents in in-work poverty. But go on Tory MP Twitter accounts (let alone their surrogates) and you'll see a world of vicious fantasies where feeding kids is counterproductive because it will free up parents' money to spend on crack dens.
A serious number of people have been convinced that scroungers and refugees are the fundamental problems facing our country. That's why we have the scandal of wealthy corporations paying workers less than enough to live on and then limited tax on their massive profits, and friends of the government with no expertise getting fat contracts to botch out essential services. I was thinking, perhaps they would agree to give food to hungry children if we said we're okay for them to outsource the job to one of their rich supporters. Meet them in the middle.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What a complete mischaracterisation of the opposing view RR. Some extreme idiots might think that way but you’re making out that serious numbers of people think that way.
Ultimately this country provides a lot and in terms of family allowance it provides £21.50 a week for the first child. £93 a month is enough to feed a child, if people are sensible with their finances and do what they can to save and work, they will then prosper in this country.
Of course some peoples’ circumstances changes, job loss, health etc but prudent financial planning plus the government support that is in place will see the children with food on the table.
posted on 24/10/20
Poverty in the UK is a dirty little secret that the political elite don't like to admit let alone do anything to fix.
++
It really isn't. the Liberal left have been banging on about the unfair distribution of wealth in the UK for hundreds of years.
Unfortunately the rich media barons and the ruling classes have derived and mocked these questioning and probing political views of those as either cranks or dangerous, radical, leftist, extremists.
As a result the 'less thinking' members in our society, who are easily lead and willing to conform to the whims of their perceived 'betters', mainly due to ignorance and a lack of information and understanding, who are easily influenced by the political ruling elite and media channels and conform as they are told to, and will vote to keep the ruling classes in power, who really don't give a monkeys about the plight of the poor, unless it suits them financially. Even though the vast majority of these people have struggles in their own lives, which they are told to blame on others.
As a poor person you only get the wealth and opportunity that the rich will concede to you.
But they can't work that out and why.
The majority of regular people who now think Rashy is wonderful will still politically support the politicians who seek to destroy his in initiative, when push comes to shove.
posted on 24/10/20
*derided
posted on 24/10/20
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posted on 24/10/20
comment by RB&W (U21434)
posted 5 minutes ago
Poverty in the UK is a dirty little secret that the political elite don't like to admit let alone do anything to fix.
++
It really isn't. the Liberal left have been banging on about the unfair distribution of wealth in the UK for hundreds of years.
Unfortunately the rich media barons and the ruling classes have derived and mocked these questioning and probing political views of those as either cranks or dangerous, radical, leftist, extremists.
As a result the 'less thinking' members in our society, who are easily lead and willing to conform to the whims of their perceived 'betters', mainly due to ignorance and a lack of information and understanding, who are easily influenced by the political ruling elite and media channels and conform as they are told to, and will vote to keep the ruling classes in power, who really don't give a monkeys about the plight of the poor, unless it suits them financially. Even though the vast majority of these people have struggles in their own lives, which they are told to blame on others.
As a poor person you only get the wealth and opportunity that the rich will concede to you.
But they can't work that out and why.
The majority of regular people who now think Rashy is wonderful will still politically support the politicians who seek to destroy his in initiative, when push comes to shove.
------------------------------------
----------------------------------
When were the liberals last in power to make a change with a majority government?!
Oh yes, never!
posted on 24/10/20
It’s a basic human right for kids to have food.
++
Of course it is. Starving kids is any society is obscene.
What you are talking about Nohlman is a completely different issue. That of trying to eradicate bad parenting and encourage responsible parenting.
Which is down to adult education.
posted on 24/10/20
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - Battling the ener... (U2958)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
I'd argue that Rashford has framed it perfectly... He pinpointed the actual, core issue.. That children are going hungry. He is saying that the issues that lead to that are for the politicians to work out, but he wants to make sure those kids don't remain hungry.
By doing this, he takes himself away from the politics and makes any rebuff much harder, as his opposition are always arguing against the core concept of feeding hungry children, rather than the socio-economic issues that surround it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is not society's role to fix the core issues, it's the role of government who have failed to reform the benefit system for decades.
We should be rewarding working, low income, often single parents who have to hold down numerous jobs just to survive.
posted on 24/10/20
comment by RB&W (U21434)
posted 3 minutes ago
It’s a basic human right for kids to have food.
++
Of course it is. Starving kids is any society is obscene.
What you are talking about Nohlman is a completely different issue. That of trying to eradicate bad parenting and encourage responsible parenting.
Which is down to adult education.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Moreso in a society that belongs in a top 6 economy. It's a disgrace.
posted on 24/10/20
comment by He’s our centre half! He’s our num... (U22158)
posted 2 hours, 40 minutes ago
I look at some “parents” with kids and I can understand why the kids need free meals. Spending a tenner a day (I think, don’t smoke) on a pack of ciggies, buying loads of scratch cards while the kids are asking for something in the shop to be shouted “I haven’t got any money” at them
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It could be down to a number of issues like alcohol abuse, gambling addiction, etc.. that sees families eat badly or not eat all.
Living beyond your means is another big factor. Low income families are often indebted, they rely on credit cards to supplement their lifestyle, that lifestyle is often unsustainable, something or someone always suffers.
posted on 24/10/20
When were the liberals last in power to make a change with a majority government?!
Oh yes, never!
++
Never is a long time.
Study modern, British political and social History from the age of Enlightenment up to the modern day. It will help you answer that question. Also some cracking stories.
There have been many landmark Acts of Parliament in education, trade, social, agriculture, political sectors, read by enlightened, liberal (Doves) Governments and Prime Ministers, of all political parties (and even by a few Hawks under pressure) that have shaped our society to what it is today.
Yes with this current extra rightwing GVT we are taking backwards steps, but they will eventually go as long as Democracy continues and hopefully we can keep on progressing.
posted on 24/10/20
* not eat at all
posted on 24/10/20
It’s a neat trick the Tories have pulled. Making people demonise parents that smoke or drink rather than corporations that suck billions out of the country.
posted on 24/10/20
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posted on 24/10/20
comment by Robb Pochettino (U22311)
posted 15 minutes ago
It’s a neat trick the Tories have pulled. Making people demonise parents that smoke or drink rather than corporations that suck billions out of the country.
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I'm no fan of the tories, however my kids are my kids. If my smoking or drinking is depriving my kids of food it's in me. I don't need politicians or rich people to tell me that.
Harsh as it sounds little keanu or tiffany don't need the latest 3 wheel pushchair and baby nikes if they aren't being fed properly
I agree education is needed, as someone mentioned above. That education used to come from family and peers.
posted on 24/10/20
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robb Pochettino (U22311)
posted 9 minutes ago
It’s a neat trick the Tories have pulled. Making people demonise parents that smoke or drink rather than corporations that suck billions out of the country.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Having you not been paying attention? Divide and conquer never went away. Immigration, BLM, benefits, Brexit, etc, etc.
The funny this is, we all buy into it. 😂😂🤣🤣
----------------------------------------------------------------------
no truer facts
and you can go back in history for even more example
Like I have always said the issue with society comes down to haves and have nots. A very small percent have the majority of power/resources. Those that don't are kept in check by the masses who are given narratives that demonises the have nots.
Kids are starving, ssh , lets not talk about that, let's talk about some horrible parents instead is just 1 example.
and also a promise they could one day become part of the haves.
posted on 24/10/20
Live in a society that rewards laziness. So woman and men who cannot afford to raise children properly, will continue to have them, and expect somebody else to foot the bill. Sane type of people who wont encourage their children in school. And the cycle continues.
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