comment by The Crystal Skull from thon Indiana Jones Disa... (U21917)
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 24 minutes ago
Scotland's national clinical director has warned civil servants not to book a holiday abroad until 2022, a leaked video has revealed.
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Read that this morning

I agree with this lockdown but I have always had doubts that it actually works as i being evidenced right now.

What I expect however is more of blaming people for not following the rules despite every bit of evidence suggesting people are at their highest level of compliance since this thing started.

And then the the cry for harsher and longer lockdown, cos well if it didn't work last time it must surely work next time

All the while completely ignoring any contrary views from very capable and eminent scientists who don't set off on flights of fancy as a norm.
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certainly helped in NZ, Oz I remember being told in various places it was impossible for the UK to do this just a few short months ago too
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We’ve been through this before.

NZ is an entirely different concept.

You espouse the severe lockdowns and measures until whenever?

comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum... (U14864)
posted 20 seconds ago
There is absolutely no chance compliance is as high as first lockdown.

Looking out my window at the traffic tells me that
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Despite practically all the expert opinion saying exactly that?

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Zachsda( Declan, put the shark doon that’s the reserves) (U1850)
posted 28 seconds ago
https://twitter.com/mortenmorland/status/1350731493824409600?s=20
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Saw that on Sunday. What I don’t get is why we aren’t diverting customs guys doing the incoming goods to doing the outgoing and if the cvnts want to argue about it then they can go look at their requirements. Seems only fair?
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Why we are giving the EU 6 months grace is beyond me. We should insist on exactly the same set of rules.

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comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum are not mine but a fictionalised version loosely based on someone similar to me (U14864)
posted 3 minutes ago
There is absolutely no chance compliance is as high as first lockdown.

Looking out my window at the traffic tells me that
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This is indesputable.

I have worked all the way through the year.

The roads were absolutely dead first lock down.

Probably up at about 30-40% of normal levels now.

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comment by The Crystal Skull from thon Indiana Jones Disa... (U21917)
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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comment by The Crystal Skull from thon Indiana Jones Disa... (U21917)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 24 minutes ago
Scotland's national clinical director has warned civil servants not to book a holiday abroad until 2022, a leaked video has revealed.
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Read that this morning

I agree with this lockdown but I have always had doubts that it actually works as i being evidenced right now.

What I expect however is more of blaming people for not following the rules despite every bit of evidence suggesting people are at their highest level of compliance since this thing started.

And then the the cry for harsher and longer lockdown, cos well if it didn't work last time it must surely work next time

All the while completely ignoring any contrary views from very capable and eminent scientists who don't set off on flights of fancy as a norm.
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certainly helped in NZ, Oz I remember being told in various places it was impossible for the UK to do this just a few short months ago too
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We’ve been through this before.

NZ is an entirely different concept.

You espouse the severe lockdowns and measures until whenever?
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no I don't
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Neither do I. And it's not working in my opinion. Well, it certainly isn't worth it that's for sure.

comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum are not mine but a fictionalised version loosely based on someone similar to me (U14864)
posted 3 minutes ago
There is absolutely no chance compliance is as high as first lockdown.

Looking out my window at the traffic tells me that
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This is indesputable.

I have worked all the way through the year.

The roads were absolutely dead first lock down.

Probably up at about 30-40% of normal levels now.
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So you disagree with all the governments and behavioural scientists too?

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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 24 minutes ago
Scotland's national clinical director has warned civil servants not to book a holiday abroad until 2022, a leaked video has revealed.
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Read that this morning

I agree with this lockdown but I have always had doubts that it actually works as i being evidenced right now.

What I expect however is more of blaming people for not following the rules despite every bit of evidence suggesting people are at their highest level of compliance since this thing started.

And then the the cry for harsher and longer lockdown, cos well if it didn't work last time it must surely work next time

All the while completely ignoring any contrary views from very capable and eminent scientists who don't set off on flights of fancy as a norm.
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That's very close to Ryan Christie's thought process every time he has a shot on grandstand l

comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum are not mine but a fictionalised version loosely based on someone similar to me (U14864)
posted 3 minutes ago
There is absolutely no chance compliance is as high as first lockdown.

Looking out my window at the traffic tells me that
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This is indesputable.

I have worked all the way through the year.

The roads were absolutely dead first lock down.

Probably up at about 30-40% of normal levels now.
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You usually do

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comment by The Crystal Skull from thon Indiana Jones Disa... (U21917)
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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comment by The Crystal Skull from thon Indiana Jones Disa... (U21917)
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Crystal Skull from thon Indiana Jones Disa... (U21917)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 24 minutes ago
Scotland's national clinical director has warned civil servants not to book a holiday abroad until 2022, a leaked video has revealed.
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Read that this morning

I agree with this lockdown but I have always had doubts that it actually works as i being evidenced right now.

What I expect however is more of blaming people for not following the rules despite every bit of evidence suggesting people are at their highest level of compliance since this thing started.

And then the the cry for harsher and longer lockdown, cos well if it didn't work last time it must surely work next time

All the while completely ignoring any contrary views from very capable and eminent scientists who don't set off on flights of fancy as a norm.
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certainly helped in NZ, Oz I remember being told in various places it was impossible for the UK to do this just a few short months ago too
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We’ve been through this before.

NZ is an entirely different concept.

You espouse the severe lockdowns and measures until whenever?
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no I don't
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Neither do I. And it's not working in my opinion. Well, it certainly isn't worth it that's for sure.
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yes half measures will never work
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So you want harsher and stricter lockdowns?

Harsher and stricter is what we should have done in the first place along with stricter travel restrictions yes.

That horse has well and truly bolted though.

Looks like you can look out the window and tell.

Data from rac says current traffic levels are similar to may when restrictions were being eased.

comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum... (U14864)
posted 22 seconds ago
Harsher and stricter is what we should have done in the first place along with stricter travel restrictions yes.

That horse has well and truly bolted though.
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And the repercussions of that have also long since passed unless we are going to say that the thousands of cases we are seeing now is a result of not locking down for an extra two weeks back in March?

Which would defy the laws of mathematics.

Also bearing in mind we are in the third and harshest lockdown since back then.

comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum... (U14864)
posted 20 seconds ago
Looks like you can look out the window and tell.

Data from rac says current traffic levels are similar to may when restrictions were being eased.
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Detail from practically every expert says compliance is at its highest.

And people travelling alone in their cars does not spread any virus.

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum... (U14864)
posted 22 seconds ago
Harsher and stricter is what we should have done in the first place along with stricter travel restrictions yes.

That horse has well and truly bolted though.
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And the repercussions of that have also long since passed unless we are going to say that the thousands of cases we are seeing now is a result of not locking down for an extra two weeks back in March?

Which would defy the laws of mathematics.

Also bearing in mind we are in the third and harshest lockdown since back then.
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That's my point though it's too late for that, not sure what you mean.

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum are not mine but a fictionalised version loosely based on someone similar to me (U14864)
posted 3 minutes ago
There is absolutely no chance compliance is as high as first lockdown.

Looking out my window at the traffic tells me that
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This is indesputable.

I have worked all the way through the year.

The roads were absolutely dead first lock down.

Probably up at about 30-40% of normal levels now.
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So you disagree with all the governments and behavioural scientists too?
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Quite a leap there.

No I am saying that the roads when I go to and from work are considerably busier than they were during the last lock down. And I would estimate that the traffic is roughly a third of its normal peak levels.

That is all I am saying.

I am not sure why you are so keen to extrapolate that out to mean more than I just said.

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 23 seconds ago
And people travelling alone in their cars does not spread any virus.
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It's where they are going to and from that's more likely to cause issues

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comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum... (U14864)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum... (U14864)
posted 22 seconds ago
Harsher and stricter is what we should have done in the first place along with stricter travel restrictions yes.

That horse has well and truly bolted though.
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And the repercussions of that have also long since passed unless we are going to say that the thousands of cases we are seeing now is a result of not locking down for an extra two weeks back in March?

Which would defy the laws of mathematics.

Also bearing in mind we are in the third and harshest lockdown since back then.
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That's my point though it's too late for that, not sure what you mean.

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Sorry

What I'm saying is that there are many who just want more, longer and stricter lockdown with harsher punishments and cite us not locking down earlier back last March as the reason behind it

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comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum... (U14864)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 23 seconds ago
And people travelling alone in their cars does not spread any virus.
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It's where they are going to and from that's more likely to cause issues
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Work?

Looking after a relative in their bubble?

Home?

As has been said it's an extremely crude barometer to compliance.