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Still convinced Turnbull is more Scott Allan than Petrov.

I would rather have Rogic but again not overly convinced by him..

Ralston & Montgomery are fine as back up, they are not first team starters.

Abada is so consistently inconsistent!

The signs are there and its clicked on the odd occasion but he needs another transfer window or 2.

we fell to bits after we lost the first goal, i still don't have a clue what he was thinking, its basics not to f... about in your own box.

Leverkusen are a good team but I'm not excusing it on that basis, its naive or stupid to think that inverting your full backs against teams with top wingers is a good idea, it's absurd.

what a laugh they must have had preparing for the match, "right Frimpong, Diaby, you're not going to believe what these guys are doing".

it's mental, it was mental to do it against midtjylland and its mental to do it now, as i said at the time its suicide against quality teams and if the manager can't see that then we have a problem.

you could have maldini and cafu as your full backs, if they don't cover the wingers then you're in big trouble.

I like Ange, he seems a decent guy but he doesn't get away with an obvious tactical error.

Lastly, Turnbull and Rogic cannot play together in that team, they are a pair of lazy bastirts and neither are playing well enough to be a luxury we accomodate right now.

we had to replace christie and we didn't. absolute amateurs man.

I think a back line with more experience dont concede 4 goals in that game, inverted FBs or not.

Turnbull for that 1st goal is absolutely unacceptable

he should be dropped for a few games

McGregor should've been going through him

Betis
Alkmaar away
Livi
Dundee Utd
Leverkusen
Rangers

Turnbull has been woeful in all of those games

Hart also had a fine game, he made 4/5 very good saves also could they could have scored 7/8.

Nae rubbing it in for me though cos we were rotten annol

there is no balance in the midfield, none at all.

christie brought a bit of energy in there, more box to box even if defensively he could time a tackle to save his life.

rogic and turnbull move the same way, slowly, wee jogs everywhere.

no good enough, at all.

see if the rest of the team had the attitude of hart we would be better off.

him and kyogo.

I thought 1st 20 mins of both halves was as good as I've seen from us under Ange, when you play the way he wants us too you need to score when you're on top and we're missing too many chances

But when we concede 1 goal we look like the whole game plan is a bogey and for 10-15mins we look like we'll concede 2/3 more goals easily

2 wins in 8, if we dont win on Sunday he's probably got to go

I'd rather have Bitton/McCarthy/Soro in for Turnbull on Sunday

Scales needs to play

we have aberdeen, hibs, and motherwell away coming up.

we need to win them all and in my opinion right now we will be lucky to win one.

that's not good enough.

i'd play boli before any of them.

This honestly feels like someone has copy pasted one of my articles from the Warburton era and just changed some of the names.

From the outside looking in you're a fun watch. Never a dull game. But you are so shambolic out of possession its comical. I think teams will always create chances with such an offensive way of playing, but I can't imagine any team who defends like that will win much.

comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 3 minutes ago
i'd play boli before any of them.
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Strangely he tried that then decided against it.

He's a dud and there is no excusing what he is doing.

The full back thing has been an issue from day one. Not only is it not working in Europe it doesn't really work on the league.

I'm paying to watch a team for 90 minutes not 15/20 minutes a half.

it's naive mags, to a point of either arrogance or stupidity and i'm leaning toward the latter.

i mean injuries have really buggered us but even if i put up a full strength team i'm left with a choice i don't like in rogic or turnbull, right now neither deserve to play.

hart
juranovic
julien
CCV
Taylor

McCarthy or Bitton (absolute must for balance right now seeing as we didn't replace brown or ntcham)
Mcgregor
Rogic / Turnbull (because we didnt replace christie)

Abada / forrest
Kyogo
Jota

Can't tell me ntcham wouldn't be an option right now btw.

this is all reliant on kyogo staying fit btw, because without him we are screwed.

i am expecting very little from GG. comical last night i thought.

comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 6 minutes ago
it's naive mags, to a point of either arrogance or stupidity and i'm leaning toward the latter.

i mean injuries have really buggered us but even if i put up a full strength team i'm left with a choice i don't like in rogic or turnbull, right now neither deserve to play.

hart
juranovic
julien
CCV
Taylor

McCarthy or Bitton (absolute must for balance right now seeing as we didn't replace brown or ntcham)
Mcgregor
Rogic / Turnbull (because we didnt replace christie)

Abada / forrest
Kyogo
Jota

Can't tell me ntcham wouldn't be an option right now btw.
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That would keep us in it.

I do think Bitton should get a run now as DM.

Mccarthy looks like he needs some work and Soro is just a joke.

Bitton has cost us at centre half but he's the best of that bunch at DM.

GG hasn't played football since May so I'll cut him some slack

however

watching him and McCarthy and knowing the way Ange wants to play, they cant of been his signings

comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 12 minutes ago
this is all reliant on kyogo staying fit btw, because without him we are screwed.

i am expecting very little from GG. comical last night i thought.
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GG looked very clumsy

BLs keeper was superb

Their CB as well was brilliant
They are a very good team but 4-0 did flatter them

We had alot of positives .

Jota is a player , he's been a superb addition - definitely not just a show pony

Kyogos runs - that burst of speed of out to in is a potent tool to have . Great to see him back




We do need to address the wrongs on our side

As has been said - Rogic and Turnbull...both stinking last night
I do think Turnbull needs a shot on the bench

Left back ...maybe this is one for the next transfer window . We probably had too much to do in the last one
Central midfielder...a Cam and an enforcer
And we need Julian back and forrest would be a welcomed addition also

Yes I would play Bitton and Mcgregor on Sunday to try and shore up that midfield berth

We should start looking at what's required out of possession a bit more

I think we will sign 3 or 4 of Kyogo ability in the January window.

Jota looks a player been very surprised by him

Maybe it's the hangover, but I think we can still finish second in this group.

Good chance to win the double header against Ferenvacos, and if we do the confidence in the team will be much higher.

The away game to Leverkusen could kill us but there's potential for us to go into the final home game against Betis with a chance to beat them and take second spot.

All that being said, we are just as capable of losing plenty more cheap goals and essentially being out of the tournament after our next game