comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 11 seconds ago
Because the legal system allows for them to make multiple appeals and to draw out the process for years.
Or are you saying you would rather do away with all of that process?
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When they are without doubt responsible and found guilty then yes.
Fair enough, I disagree I prefer people to be treated consistently no matter how shlt they are
Anybody interested in the game in a couple of hours?
Yes sorry. I didn't want it to be about the death penalty, it just disturbed me.
comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 4 minutes ago
Fair enough, I disagree I prefer people to be treated consistently no matter how shlt they are
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Consistently as in given a trial and found guilty?
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yes sorry. I didn't want it to be about the death penalty, it just disturbed me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Theh are evil and deserve the greatest pumishment.
Id happily break their arms and legs and drop them in a canal.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 4 minutes ago
Fair enough, I disagree I prefer people to be treated consistently no matter how shlt they are
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Consistently as in given a trial and found guilty?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And allowed to appeal the result of that trial to redetermine the validity and distribution of the guilt.
Pure evil they are no better than Brady & Hindley
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
i get you are disturbed. I think we alll are. But you have to lay questions about the bigger picture such as the role of social services in such cases who we pay to indentify and prevent these problems. The enquiry will deal with all that.
But advocating torturing people to death is a ridiculous knee jerk scenario to any sensible thought which lays right in the hands of the keyboard morons on social media forums like this..
Anyway, United to win 3-1
comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 4 minutes ago
Fair enough, I disagree I prefer people to be treated consistently no matter how shlt they are
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Consistently as in given a trial and found guilty?
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And allowed to appeal the result of that trial to redetermine the validity and distribution of the guilt.
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The world has gone soft.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 4 minutes ago
Fair enough, I disagree I prefer people to be treated consistently no matter how shlt they are
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Consistently as in given a trial and found guilty?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And allowed to appeal the result of that trial to redetermine the validity and distribution of the guilt.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The world has gone soft.
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Thank god for that
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 second ago
comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 4 minutes ago
Fair enough, I disagree I prefer people to be treated consistently no matter how shlt they are
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Consistently as in given a trial and found guilty?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And allowed to appeal the result of that trial to redetermine the validity and distribution of the guilt.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The world has gone soft.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, it was called The Renaissance
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
i get you are disturbed. I think we alll are. But you have to lay questions about the bigger picture such as the role of social services in such cases who we pay to indentify and prevent these problems. The enquiry will deal with all that.
But advocating torturing people to death is a ridiculous knee jerk scenario to any sensible thought which lays right in the hands of the keyboard morons on social media forums like this..
Anyway, United to win 3-1
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Nobody is saying the social services / authorities who missed oppurtunities to step in shoukdbt be investigated, or that those guilty shoukd be tortured. Just that they deserve the death penalty.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Prankster - I’ll make you famous! (U22336)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Amado Carrillo Fuentes (U11781)
posted 10 minutes ago
"Social services staff should have spoken to Arthur about his bruises, the Director of Association of Child Protection Professionals has said."
Or
"Lord Laming led the public inquiry into the death of Victoria Climbie, who was killed by her great-aunt and her partner in 2000, and reviewed the case of baby Peter Connelly, who died in 2007 at the hands of his mother, her boyfriend and their lodger. He said the quality of training for social work "needs to be looked at again".
Or
"Former Children's Commissioner for England Anne Longfield told Today: "A lot of the services went on to the screens for children, and this child in particular, Arthur, wasn't in school.
"So there's a big lesson there, instantly about if there is a crisis, there are children who are going to slip from view and we have to make sure they have the protection, which does need face-to-face contact."
This is all from the BBC GT, I am probably the biggest Tory basher on this website as you well know but there was multiple own goals on the social here. The kids life could have been saved much earlier.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You do realise kids innocently get bruises every day and social services being underfunded and understaffed simply don’t have the resources to respond to every report of a bruise.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This little boy was badly mistreated / harmed over a prolonged period.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No shiiiit, but what does that have to do with social services.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
i get you are disturbed. I think we alll are. But you have to lay questions about the bigger picture such as the role of social services in such cases who we pay to indentify and prevent these problems. The enquiry will deal with all that.
But advocating torturing people to death is a ridiculous knee jerk scenario to any sensible thought which lays right in the hands of the keyboard morons on social media forums like this..
Anyway, United to win 3-1
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Nobody is saying the social services / authorities who missed oppurtunities to step in shoukdbt be investigated, or that those guilty shoukd be tortured. Just that they deserve the death penalty.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Read again
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 second ago
comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 4 minutes ago
Fair enough, I disagree I prefer people to be treated consistently no matter how shlt they are
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Consistently as in given a trial and found guilty?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And allowed to appeal the result of that trial to redetermine the validity and distribution of the guilt.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The world has gone soft.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, it was called The Renaissance
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We had the death penalty after that
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 second ago
comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 4 minutes ago
Fair enough, I disagree I prefer people to be treated consistently no matter how shlt they are
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Consistently as in given a trial and found guilty?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And allowed to appeal the result of that trial to redetermine the validity and distribution of the guilt.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The world has gone soft.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, it was called The Renaissance
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We had the death penalty after that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not public torturing
comment by Prankster - I’ll make you famous! (U22336)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Prankster - I’ll make you famous! (U22336)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Amado Carrillo Fuentes (U11781)
posted 10 minutes ago
"Social services staff should have spoken to Arthur about his bruises, the Director of Association of Child Protection Professionals has said."
Or
"Lord Laming led the public inquiry into the death of Victoria Climbie, who was killed by her great-aunt and her partner in 2000, and reviewed the case of baby Peter Connelly, who died in 2007 at the hands of his mother, her boyfriend and their lodger. He said the quality of training for social work "needs to be looked at again".
Or
"Former Children's Commissioner for England Anne Longfield told Today: "A lot of the services went on to the screens for children, and this child in particular, Arthur, wasn't in school.
"So there's a big lesson there, instantly about if there is a crisis, there are children who are going to slip from view and we have to make sure they have the protection, which does need face-to-face contact."
This is all from the BBC GT, I am probably the biggest Tory basher on this website as you well know but there was multiple own goals on the social here. The kids life could have been saved much earlier.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You do realise kids innocently get bruises every day and social services being underfunded and understaffed simply don’t have the resources to respond to every report of a bruise.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This little boy was badly mistreated / harmed over a prolonged period.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No shiiiit, but what does that have to do with social services.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This wasn't just 1 accidental injury they missed.
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 second ago
comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 4 minutes ago
Fair enough, I disagree I prefer people to be treated consistently no matter how shlt they are
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Consistently as in given a trial and found guilty?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And allowed to appeal the result of that trial to redetermine the validity and distribution of the guilt.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The world has gone soft.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, it was called The Renaissance
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We had the death penalty after that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not public torturing
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I dont think anyone is calling for that.
I wasn't advocating torture at all, or hanging. Just giving a gut reaction. Reason knows differently
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 44 minutes ago
With current sentences, they will be able to leave prison at some point. Is that correct?
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No
The best punishment would be to do a lobectomy of the parietal lobe for both of them + sterilized them. The results of lobectomy are described in this paper.
comment by Firkin (U19526)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 44 minutes ago
With current sentences, they will be able to leave prison at some point. Is that correct?
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No
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Possibly. He will serve 14 of his 21 years before being considered for parole.
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posted on 5/12/21
comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 11 seconds ago
Because the legal system allows for them to make multiple appeals and to draw out the process for years.
Or are you saying you would rather do away with all of that process?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When they are without doubt responsible and found guilty then yes.
posted on 5/12/21
Fair enough, I disagree I prefer people to be treated consistently no matter how shlt they are
posted on 5/12/21
Anybody interested in the game in a couple of hours?
posted on 5/12/21
Yes sorry. I didn't want it to be about the death penalty, it just disturbed me.
posted on 5/12/21
comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 4 minutes ago
Fair enough, I disagree I prefer people to be treated consistently no matter how shlt they are
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Consistently as in given a trial and found guilty?
posted on 5/12/21
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yes sorry. I didn't want it to be about the death penalty, it just disturbed me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Theh are evil and deserve the greatest pumishment.
Id happily break their arms and legs and drop them in a canal.
posted on 5/12/21
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 4 minutes ago
Fair enough, I disagree I prefer people to be treated consistently no matter how shlt they are
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Consistently as in given a trial and found guilty?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And allowed to appeal the result of that trial to redetermine the validity and distribution of the guilt.
posted on 5/12/21
Pure evil they are no better than Brady & Hindley
posted on 5/12/21
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 5/12/21
i get you are disturbed. I think we alll are. But you have to lay questions about the bigger picture such as the role of social services in such cases who we pay to indentify and prevent these problems. The enquiry will deal with all that.
But advocating torturing people to death is a ridiculous knee jerk scenario to any sensible thought which lays right in the hands of the keyboard morons on social media forums like this..
Anyway, United to win 3-1
posted on 5/12/21
comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 4 minutes ago
Fair enough, I disagree I prefer people to be treated consistently no matter how shlt they are
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Consistently as in given a trial and found guilty?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And allowed to appeal the result of that trial to redetermine the validity and distribution of the guilt.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The world has gone soft.
posted on 5/12/21
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 4 minutes ago
Fair enough, I disagree I prefer people to be treated consistently no matter how shlt they are
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Consistently as in given a trial and found guilty?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And allowed to appeal the result of that trial to redetermine the validity and distribution of the guilt.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The world has gone soft.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thank god for that
posted on 5/12/21
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 second ago
comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 4 minutes ago
Fair enough, I disagree I prefer people to be treated consistently no matter how shlt they are
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Consistently as in given a trial and found guilty?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And allowed to appeal the result of that trial to redetermine the validity and distribution of the guilt.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The world has gone soft.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, it was called The Renaissance
posted on 5/12/21
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
i get you are disturbed. I think we alll are. But you have to lay questions about the bigger picture such as the role of social services in such cases who we pay to indentify and prevent these problems. The enquiry will deal with all that.
But advocating torturing people to death is a ridiculous knee jerk scenario to any sensible thought which lays right in the hands of the keyboard morons on social media forums like this..
Anyway, United to win 3-1
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nobody is saying the social services / authorities who missed oppurtunities to step in shoukdbt be investigated, or that those guilty shoukd be tortured. Just that they deserve the death penalty.
posted on 5/12/21
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Prankster - I’ll make you famous! (U22336)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Amado Carrillo Fuentes (U11781)
posted 10 minutes ago
"Social services staff should have spoken to Arthur about his bruises, the Director of Association of Child Protection Professionals has said."
Or
"Lord Laming led the public inquiry into the death of Victoria Climbie, who was killed by her great-aunt and her partner in 2000, and reviewed the case of baby Peter Connelly, who died in 2007 at the hands of his mother, her boyfriend and their lodger. He said the quality of training for social work "needs to be looked at again".
Or
"Former Children's Commissioner for England Anne Longfield told Today: "A lot of the services went on to the screens for children, and this child in particular, Arthur, wasn't in school.
"So there's a big lesson there, instantly about if there is a crisis, there are children who are going to slip from view and we have to make sure they have the protection, which does need face-to-face contact."
This is all from the BBC GT, I am probably the biggest Tory basher on this website as you well know but there was multiple own goals on the social here. The kids life could have been saved much earlier.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You do realise kids innocently get bruises every day and social services being underfunded and understaffed simply don’t have the resources to respond to every report of a bruise.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This little boy was badly mistreated / harmed over a prolonged period.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No shiiiit, but what does that have to do with social services.
posted on 5/12/21
posted on 5/12/21
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
i get you are disturbed. I think we alll are. But you have to lay questions about the bigger picture such as the role of social services in such cases who we pay to indentify and prevent these problems. The enquiry will deal with all that.
But advocating torturing people to death is a ridiculous knee jerk scenario to any sensible thought which lays right in the hands of the keyboard morons on social media forums like this..
Anyway, United to win 3-1
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nobody is saying the social services / authorities who missed oppurtunities to step in shoukdbt be investigated, or that those guilty shoukd be tortured. Just that they deserve the death penalty.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Read again
posted on 5/12/21
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 second ago
comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 4 minutes ago
Fair enough, I disagree I prefer people to be treated consistently no matter how shlt they are
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Consistently as in given a trial and found guilty?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And allowed to appeal the result of that trial to redetermine the validity and distribution of the guilt.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The world has gone soft.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, it was called The Renaissance
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We had the death penalty after that
posted on 5/12/21
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 second ago
comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 4 minutes ago
Fair enough, I disagree I prefer people to be treated consistently no matter how shlt they are
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Consistently as in given a trial and found guilty?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And allowed to appeal the result of that trial to redetermine the validity and distribution of the guilt.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The world has gone soft.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, it was called The Renaissance
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We had the death penalty after that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not public torturing
posted on 5/12/21
comment by Prankster - I’ll make you famous! (U22336)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Prankster - I’ll make you famous! (U22336)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Amado Carrillo Fuentes (U11781)
posted 10 minutes ago
"Social services staff should have spoken to Arthur about his bruises, the Director of Association of Child Protection Professionals has said."
Or
"Lord Laming led the public inquiry into the death of Victoria Climbie, who was killed by her great-aunt and her partner in 2000, and reviewed the case of baby Peter Connelly, who died in 2007 at the hands of his mother, her boyfriend and their lodger. He said the quality of training for social work "needs to be looked at again".
Or
"Former Children's Commissioner for England Anne Longfield told Today: "A lot of the services went on to the screens for children, and this child in particular, Arthur, wasn't in school.
"So there's a big lesson there, instantly about if there is a crisis, there are children who are going to slip from view and we have to make sure they have the protection, which does need face-to-face contact."
This is all from the BBC GT, I am probably the biggest Tory basher on this website as you well know but there was multiple own goals on the social here. The kids life could have been saved much earlier.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You do realise kids innocently get bruises every day and social services being underfunded and understaffed simply don’t have the resources to respond to every report of a bruise.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This little boy was badly mistreated / harmed over a prolonged period.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No shiiiit, but what does that have to do with social services.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This wasn't just 1 accidental injury they missed.
posted on 5/12/21
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 second ago
comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by tcwmf | Obers Haven (U6489)
posted 4 minutes ago
Fair enough, I disagree I prefer people to be treated consistently no matter how shlt they are
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Consistently as in given a trial and found guilty?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And allowed to appeal the result of that trial to redetermine the validity and distribution of the guilt.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The world has gone soft.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, it was called The Renaissance
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We had the death penalty after that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not public torturing
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I dont think anyone is calling for that.
posted on 5/12/21
I wasn't advocating torture at all, or hanging. Just giving a gut reaction. Reason knows differently
posted on 5/12/21
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 44 minutes ago
With current sentences, they will be able to leave prison at some point. Is that correct?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No
posted on 5/12/21
The best punishment would be to do a lobectomy of the parietal lobe for both of them + sterilized them. The results of lobectomy are described in this paper.
posted on 5/12/21
comment by Firkin (U19526)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 44 minutes ago
With current sentences, they will be able to leave prison at some point. Is that correct?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Possibly. He will serve 14 of his 21 years before being considered for parole.
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