Have a lot of respect for managers like Ancelotti and Jose who've won league titles in all the top leagues and multiple CL titles while hopping from one country to another. Carlo has more CL titles than Fergie in less time and with different clubs. Jose has 2, same as Fergie. Zidane has 3 btw.
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Can Guardiola do it when he doesn't have the best side and/or infinite funds?
We'll probably never know but given he's only won the CL with Messi and always had the best side I don't see why he can be rated above Fergie or Klopp.
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Can anyone?
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As Klopp says the world is full of tryers so he prefers to try to win, not win by default and people being shocked if you don't win as its almost guaranteed.
Barca won league titles and CL titles before and after Pep.
Bayern won all the league titles before Pep(except when Klopp was at Dortmund) and after Pep. They won the CL before and after Pep.
City won league titles before Pep.
Klopp was at Mainz. Dortmund didn't win sheet before Klopp and don't win sheet after Klopp.
If Klopp had gone to Bayern he'd have won the league every season and probably the CL too.
If Klopp was at City they'd win the league every season and he'd have the tactical nous to bring home the CL.
Klopp will never join a ready made team.
Pep would sheet his pants at Mainz and relegate them to the 2nd division. He failed at Bayern as that team wins their league even with Scooby Doo as manager.
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There’s a lot of “ifs” there.
None of which can be substantiated.
Here’s one for you. If Klopp took over,say, West Ham, would he have won the league?
If Pep did, would he have won the league?
If Ferguson did?
Etc etc etc…
Before you answer, consider my opinion. I’m not trying to big up or play down the achievements of any manager. Other posters are doing that, and usually doing that to favour the team that they support.
The whole discussion had its roots in bias.
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And didn't Klopp relegate Mainz?
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He got them promoted, which was no mean feat but they were too weak and couldn't stay in it.
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So he got them relegated to div 2? That's what I thought.
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No, he got them promoted to Bundesliga and back down
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%BCrgen_Klopp#Managerial_career
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Yeh I know that. Just seemed odd that someone said Pep would have got Mainz relegated to div 2 whilst trying to defend Klopp, when that is what Klopp did.
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So he got them relegated to div 2? That's what I thought.
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After getting them promoted, yes.
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It wasn't div 2 though. Div 2 means the 3rd tier these days, no?
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In which country? Means div 4 over here. In Germany its Bundesliga 2.
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posted 23 minutes ago
Have a lot of respect for managers like Ancelotti and Jose who've won league titles in all the top leagues and multiple CL titles while hopping from one country to another. Carlo has more CL titles than Fergie in less time and with different clubs. Jose has 2, same as Fergie. Zidane has 3 btw.
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That's admirable and something that you can't take away from them. But so is having longevity and success by rebuilding teams at the same club. Mourinho hasn't even shown he can last more than 3 seasons at a club yet, which I think hurts his legacy.
“tactically he was very weak. Same formation everytime”
Fack me, this place gets worse by the day.
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comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Hard to argue with this.
All very well playing 442 and kick and rush but football is another level now.
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What a load of rubbish. Kick and rush football? 😂
We had the greatest midfield the PL has ever seen. Scholes Keane Beckham Giggs.
Only team to win the league 3 times on the bounce in the PL era. We did it twice.
Only team to win the PL and CL in same season. Again did it twice.
Fergie is the don.
Klopp has won 1 league title in the last 10 years as a coach. 😂😂😂
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Dude, you’ve been Robbing’d
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posted 3 minutes ago
Hard to argue with this.
All very well playing 442 and kick and rush but football is another level now.
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What a load of rubbish. Kick and rush football? 😂
We had the greatest midfield the PL has ever seen. Scholes Keane Beckham Giggs.
Only team to win the league 3 times on the bounce in the PL era. We did it twice.
Only team to win the PL and CL in same season. Again did it twice.
Fergie is the don.
Klopp has won 1 league title in the last 10 years as a coach. 😂😂😂
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Dude, you’ve been Robbing’d
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Is this his new thing? Is he trying to be the new Barry?
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comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Hard to argue with this.
All very well playing 442 and kick and rush but football is another level now.
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What a load of rubbish. Kick and rush football? 😂
We had the greatest midfield the PL has ever seen. Scholes Keane Beckham Giggs.
Only team to win the league 3 times on the bounce in the PL era. We did it twice.
Only team to win the PL and CL in same season. Again did it twice.
Fergie is the don.
Klopp has won 1 league title in the last 10 years as a coach. 😂😂😂
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Dude, you’ve been Robbing’d
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Is this his new thing? Is he trying to be the new Barry?
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I’ve not seen it before from Robbing. Apparently he’s branching out. And I approve
This article seems to have decended into a farce, a shame.
1. Fergie - he built 3 teams across a 20 year period. He overcame a financial juggernaut (chelsea) that had never been seen before. Then when another 1 came along with even more power (city) even though he lost to them and might have given up, he came back again and got the best of them.
Even the most bitter lfc fan cant argue his greatness.
2. Pep for no. Of trophies won
3. Klopp.
Straight forward really.
Klopp
Should be nowhere near this discussion.
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posted 11 hours, 10 minutes ago
Only team to win the league 3 times on the bounce in the PL era. We did it twice.
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One team league. Much stronger now.
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How?
He had
Blackburn with all their cash
Arsenal at their peak
Chelsea with untold riches
City (see Chelsea)
He built 3 or 4 teams and changed the whole mentality at UTD.
Also made Aberdeen into Scotland's premier side and to date they are the last Champions outside the old firm to win the league
Klopp is an outstanding manager with what he's done and I'd put him ahead of Pep
Jose is a serial winner and although he has his faults you only have to look at his trophy haul to see how good he's been
- Barcelona capitulated at Anfield
- They've played Benfica, Villarreal and Inter to get to a CL final
- Won two trophies on penalties, not scoring against an average Chelsea side in 240 minutes.
But Ferguson was lucky.
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 12 hours, 30 minutes ago
One PL title Klopp should be nowhere near the conversation
Should be in there with Mancini, Ranieri, Pellegrini etc
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Howard Kendall won more
Great article, needed a laugh
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posted 6 hours, 36 minutes ago
This article seems to have decended into a farce, a shame.
1. Fergie - he built 3 teams across a 20 year period. He overcame a financial juggernaut (chelsea) that had never been seen before. Then when another 1 came along with even more power (city) even though he lost to them and might have given up, he came back again and got the best of them.
Even the most bitter lfc fan cant argue his greatness.
2. Pep for no. Of trophies won
3. Klopp.
Straight forward really.
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Baffles me that some fans try to play down SAF’s achievements because he didn’t get 90 points a season.
Fergie
Pep
Mourinho
Klopp is in the same league as Ranieri until he wins another PL
There’s a reason he didn’t get 99 points etc a season, he didn’t need to
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There’s a reason he didn’t get 99 points etc a season, he didn’t need to
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I think that you also need to factor in squad depth. Certainly in SAF's early years, we simply didn't have the same quality in depth that City and Liverpool now have. No teams did. So it was harder to maintain your highest levels over the season, as rotation and injuries were more likely to impact on performances.
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posted 40 minutes ago
Fergie
Pep
Mourinho
Klopp is in the same league as Ranieri until he wins another PL
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More nonsense.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by dangerdog2 (U22234)
posted 40 minutes ago
Fergie
Pep
Mourinho
Klopp is in the same league as Ranieri until he wins another PL
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More nonsense.
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When you've got morons trying or belittle SAFs achievements this is what is going to happen
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by dangerdog2 (U22234)
posted 40 minutes ago
Fergie
Pep
Mourinho
Klopp is in the same league as Ranieri until he wins another PL
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More nonsense.
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It's dangerdog, he specialises in nonsense.
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posted 26 minutes ago
comment by dangerdog2 (U22234)
posted 40 minutes ago
Fergie
Pep
Mourinho
Klopp is in the same league as Ranieri until he wins another PL
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More nonsense.
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To be fair, I think a lot of people would rank the four in that order (without the Ranieri-related part).
For me,the major difference is that these guys, Pep and Klopp are doing this at different clubs in different leagues. It's easier when your at the top of the tree, in your comfort zone (PL) all the time, and you can generally buy the best player in your rivals teams, which weakens them and strengthens you on a yearly basis. I would have liked to see Fergie go to Barca, Madrid or Bayern too, to see if he can replicate what he done here in other leagues...(i'm not counting the Scottish league, dead league).
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by dangerdog2 (U22234)
posted 40 minutes ago
Fergie
Pep
Mourinho
Klopp is in the same league as Ranieri until he wins another PL
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More nonsense.
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To be fair, I think a lot of people would rank the four in that order (without the Ranieri-related part).
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The Ranieri more tongue in cheek, the point being he needs to win more league titles to be in that league
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 10 minutes ago
For me,the major difference is that these guys, Pep and Klopp are doing this at different clubs in different leagues. It's easier when your at the top of the tree, in your comfort zone (PL) all the time, and you can generally buy the best player in your rivals teams, which weakens them and strengthens you on a yearly basis. I would have liked to see Fergie go to Barca, Madrid or Bayern too, to see if he can replicate what he done here in other leagues...(i'm not counting the Scottish league, dead league).
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To be fair to SAF, the Scottish Premier Division was a two team league: Celtic and Rangers had won the previous 15 titles before SAF took Aberdeen to their second ever league title (their first was in the early ‘50s) in his second season in charge.
Then he won it twice more in the next few seasons, whilst also winning the Scottish Cup *four times* in six seasons, the Scottish League Cup, the European Cup Winners’ Cup and the European Super Cup.
Since SAF’s three Scottish league titles, no club other than Rangers or Celtic has taken the title.
The CWC win saw Aberdeen beat Bayern and Real Madrid, and Hamburg (who were dominating the Bundesliga at the time) in the Super Cup. They got to the semi finals of the CWC the following year.
Aberdeen are still the last club from Scotland to have won a European trophy, and courtesy of SAF are the only club from Scotland to have won two European trophies.
What he achieved there was nothing short of phenomenal.
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Have a lot of respect for managers like Ancelotti and Jose who've won league titles in all the top leagues and multiple CL titles while hopping from one country to another. Carlo has more CL titles than Fergie in less time and with different clubs. Jose has 2, same as Fergie. Zidane has 3 btw.
posted on 26/5/22
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 56 minutes ago
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comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 0 seconds ago
Can Guardiola do it when he doesn't have the best side and/or infinite funds?
We'll probably never know but given he's only won the CL with Messi and always had the best side I don't see why he can be rated above Fergie or Klopp.
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Can anyone?
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As Klopp says the world is full of tryers so he prefers to try to win, not win by default and people being shocked if you don't win as its almost guaranteed.
Barca won league titles and CL titles before and after Pep.
Bayern won all the league titles before Pep(except when Klopp was at Dortmund) and after Pep. They won the CL before and after Pep.
City won league titles before Pep.
Klopp was at Mainz. Dortmund didn't win sheet before Klopp and don't win sheet after Klopp.
If Klopp had gone to Bayern he'd have won the league every season and probably the CL too.
If Klopp was at City they'd win the league every season and he'd have the tactical nous to bring home the CL.
Klopp will never join a ready made team.
Pep would sheet his pants at Mainz and relegate them to the 2nd division. He failed at Bayern as that team wins their league even with Scooby Doo as manager.
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There’s a lot of “ifs” there.
None of which can be substantiated.
Here’s one for you. If Klopp took over,say, West Ham, would he have won the league?
If Pep did, would he have won the league?
If Ferguson did?
Etc etc etc…
Before you answer, consider my opinion. I’m not trying to big up or play down the achievements of any manager. Other posters are doing that, and usually doing that to favour the team that they support.
The whole discussion had its roots in bias.
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And didn't Klopp relegate Mainz?
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He got them promoted, which was no mean feat but they were too weak and couldn't stay in it.
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So he got them relegated to div 2? That's what I thought.
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No, he got them promoted to Bundesliga and back down
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%BCrgen_Klopp#Managerial_career
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Yeh I know that. Just seemed odd that someone said Pep would have got Mainz relegated to div 2 whilst trying to defend Klopp, when that is what Klopp did.
posted on 26/5/22
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 56 minutes ago
So he got them relegated to div 2? That's what I thought.
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After getting them promoted, yes.
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It wasn't div 2 though. Div 2 means the 3rd tier these days, no?
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In which country? Means div 4 over here. In Germany its Bundesliga 2.
posted on 26/5/22
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 23 minutes ago
Have a lot of respect for managers like Ancelotti and Jose who've won league titles in all the top leagues and multiple CL titles while hopping from one country to another. Carlo has more CL titles than Fergie in less time and with different clubs. Jose has 2, same as Fergie. Zidane has 3 btw.
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That's admirable and something that you can't take away from them. But so is having longevity and success by rebuilding teams at the same club. Mourinho hasn't even shown he can last more than 3 seasons at a club yet, which I think hurts his legacy.
posted on 27/5/22
“tactically he was very weak. Same formation everytime”
Fack me, this place gets worse by the day.
posted on 27/5/22
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 4 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Hard to argue with this.
All very well playing 442 and kick and rush but football is another level now.
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What a load of rubbish. Kick and rush football? 😂
We had the greatest midfield the PL has ever seen. Scholes Keane Beckham Giggs.
Only team to win the league 3 times on the bounce in the PL era. We did it twice.
Only team to win the PL and CL in same season. Again did it twice.
Fergie is the don.
Klopp has won 1 league title in the last 10 years as a coach. 😂😂😂
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Dude, you’ve been Robbing’d
posted on 27/5/22
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 4 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Hard to argue with this.
All very well playing 442 and kick and rush but football is another level now.
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What a load of rubbish. Kick and rush football? 😂
We had the greatest midfield the PL has ever seen. Scholes Keane Beckham Giggs.
Only team to win the league 3 times on the bounce in the PL era. We did it twice.
Only team to win the PL and CL in same season. Again did it twice.
Fergie is the don.
Klopp has won 1 league title in the last 10 years as a coach. 😂😂😂
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Dude, you’ve been Robbing’d
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Is this his new thing? Is he trying to be the new Barry?
posted on 27/5/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 4 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Hard to argue with this.
All very well playing 442 and kick and rush but football is another level now.
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What a load of rubbish. Kick and rush football? 😂
We had the greatest midfield the PL has ever seen. Scholes Keane Beckham Giggs.
Only team to win the league 3 times on the bounce in the PL era. We did it twice.
Only team to win the PL and CL in same season. Again did it twice.
Fergie is the don.
Klopp has won 1 league title in the last 10 years as a coach. 😂😂😂
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Dude, you’ve been Robbing’d
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Is this his new thing? Is he trying to be the new Barry?
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I’ve not seen it before from Robbing. Apparently he’s branching out. And I approve
posted on 27/5/22
This article seems to have decended into a farce, a shame.
1. Fergie - he built 3 teams across a 20 year period. He overcame a financial juggernaut (chelsea) that had never been seen before. Then when another 1 came along with even more power (city) even though he lost to them and might have given up, he came back again and got the best of them.
Even the most bitter lfc fan cant argue his greatness.
2. Pep for no. Of trophies won
3. Klopp.
Straight forward really.
posted on 27/5/22
Klopp
Should be nowhere near this discussion.
posted on 27/5/22
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 11 hours, 10 minutes ago
Only team to win the league 3 times on the bounce in the PL era. We did it twice.
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One team league. Much stronger now.
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How?
He had
Blackburn with all their cash
Arsenal at their peak
Chelsea with untold riches
City (see Chelsea)
He built 3 or 4 teams and changed the whole mentality at UTD.
Also made Aberdeen into Scotland's premier side and to date they are the last Champions outside the old firm to win the league
Klopp is an outstanding manager with what he's done and I'd put him ahead of Pep
Jose is a serial winner and although he has his faults you only have to look at his trophy haul to see how good he's been
posted on 27/5/22
- Barcelona capitulated at Anfield
- They've played Benfica, Villarreal and Inter to get to a CL final
- Won two trophies on penalties, not scoring against an average Chelsea side in 240 minutes.
But Ferguson was lucky.
posted on 27/5/22
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 12 hours, 30 minutes ago
One PL title Klopp should be nowhere near the conversation
Should be in there with Mancini, Ranieri, Pellegrini etc
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Howard Kendall won more
posted on 27/5/22
Great article, needed a laugh
posted on 27/5/22
comment by Mellor, Lovely Cushioned Header, FOR GERRARD, OOOOOOHHHHHH YAAAAAAA BEEEAAAUUUTTTYYYYY!!!!!!!!! (U1859)
posted 6 hours, 36 minutes ago
This article seems to have decended into a farce, a shame.
1. Fergie - he built 3 teams across a 20 year period. He overcame a financial juggernaut (chelsea) that had never been seen before. Then when another 1 came along with even more power (city) even though he lost to them and might have given up, he came back again and got the best of them.
Even the most bitter lfc fan cant argue his greatness.
2. Pep for no. Of trophies won
3. Klopp.
Straight forward really.
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Baffles me that some fans try to play down SAF’s achievements because he didn’t get 90 points a season.
posted on 27/5/22
Fergie
Pep
Mourinho
Klopp is in the same league as Ranieri until he wins another PL
posted on 27/5/22
There’s a reason he didn’t get 99 points etc a season, he didn’t need to
posted on 27/5/22
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 10 minutes ago
There’s a reason he didn’t get 99 points etc a season, he didn’t need to
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I think that you also need to factor in squad depth. Certainly in SAF's early years, we simply didn't have the same quality in depth that City and Liverpool now have. No teams did. So it was harder to maintain your highest levels over the season, as rotation and injuries were more likely to impact on performances.
posted on 27/5/22
comment by dangerdog2 (U22234)
posted 40 minutes ago
Fergie
Pep
Mourinho
Klopp is in the same league as Ranieri until he wins another PL
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More nonsense.
posted on 27/5/22
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by dangerdog2 (U22234)
posted 40 minutes ago
Fergie
Pep
Mourinho
Klopp is in the same league as Ranieri until he wins another PL
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More nonsense.
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When you've got morons trying or belittle SAFs achievements this is what is going to happen
posted on 27/5/22
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by dangerdog2 (U22234)
posted 40 minutes ago
Fergie
Pep
Mourinho
Klopp is in the same league as Ranieri until he wins another PL
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More nonsense.
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It's dangerdog, he specialises in nonsense.
posted on 27/5/22
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by dangerdog2 (U22234)
posted 40 minutes ago
Fergie
Pep
Mourinho
Klopp is in the same league as Ranieri until he wins another PL
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More nonsense.
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To be fair, I think a lot of people would rank the four in that order (without the Ranieri-related part).
posted on 27/5/22
For me,the major difference is that these guys, Pep and Klopp are doing this at different clubs in different leagues. It's easier when your at the top of the tree, in your comfort zone (PL) all the time, and you can generally buy the best player in your rivals teams, which weakens them and strengthens you on a yearly basis. I would have liked to see Fergie go to Barca, Madrid or Bayern too, to see if he can replicate what he done here in other leagues...(i'm not counting the Scottish league, dead league).
posted on 27/5/22
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by dangerdog2 (U22234)
posted 40 minutes ago
Fergie
Pep
Mourinho
Klopp is in the same league as Ranieri until he wins another PL
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More nonsense.
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To be fair, I think a lot of people would rank the four in that order (without the Ranieri-related part).
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The Ranieri more tongue in cheek, the point being he needs to win more league titles to be in that league
posted on 27/5/22
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 10 minutes ago
For me,the major difference is that these guys, Pep and Klopp are doing this at different clubs in different leagues. It's easier when your at the top of the tree, in your comfort zone (PL) all the time, and you can generally buy the best player in your rivals teams, which weakens them and strengthens you on a yearly basis. I would have liked to see Fergie go to Barca, Madrid or Bayern too, to see if he can replicate what he done here in other leagues...(i'm not counting the Scottish league, dead league).
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To be fair to SAF, the Scottish Premier Division was a two team league: Celtic and Rangers had won the previous 15 titles before SAF took Aberdeen to their second ever league title (their first was in the early ‘50s) in his second season in charge.
Then he won it twice more in the next few seasons, whilst also winning the Scottish Cup *four times* in six seasons, the Scottish League Cup, the European Cup Winners’ Cup and the European Super Cup.
Since SAF’s three Scottish league titles, no club other than Rangers or Celtic has taken the title.
The CWC win saw Aberdeen beat Bayern and Real Madrid, and Hamburg (who were dominating the Bundesliga at the time) in the Super Cup. They got to the semi finals of the CWC the following year.
Aberdeen are still the last club from Scotland to have won a European trophy, and courtesy of SAF are the only club from Scotland to have won two European trophies.
What he achieved there was nothing short of phenomenal.
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