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posted on 14/7/22



This is brilliant

posted on 14/7/22

Devil

It has been very enjoyable watching them slowly realise that the Chels are going absolutely fecking nowhere

posted on 14/7/22

I’m not sure one summer is indicative of what’s to come, in fairness.

posted on 14/7/22

Just koulibaly and sterling makes it a better window than spurs tbh. Spurs have been big on numbers in but low on quality. I suspect Chelsea and spurs aren't done spending yet, but my gut instinct says Chelsea will get a better calibre of player, and finish above spurs next year.

posted on 14/7/22

Can’t say I’m too bothered about Chelsea’s purchases so far - Sterling for Lukaku is a downgrade for me and a 31 year old defender from Napoli who has never played in the Prem. Koulibaly is a very good defender, but so we’re both Christensen and Rudiger - so I don’t see how you have improved.

I look at what we’ve done and we’ve solved our LWB issue, bought arguably the best CM outside the top 6 clubs in the league and signed Brazils number 9. Were likely to resolve RWB by the weekend with Djed Spence, leaving us a dominant CB away from a completed squad.

Bring on the new season I say

posted on 14/7/22

comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 18 seconds ago
Just koulibaly and sterling makes it a better window than spurs tbh. Spurs have been big on numbers in but low on quality. I suspect Chelsea and spurs aren't done spending yet, but my gut instinct says Chelsea will get a better calibre of player, and finish above spurs next year.
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Chelsea have had to replace lost players.

Koulibaly is no better than Rudiger and now they have a CB pairing with a combined age of 69.

Sterling is an upgrade on Werner, but they still lack a striker unless they go Havertz false 9 all season, which will be some what odd, with little fall back.

I'd take SPurs front line over CFCs, easy. Midfiled is much of a muchness..both focussing on functional players rather than silky ballers.

Defensively, Chelsea have great wing backs and probably the edge with their CBs, although really they need to add another to their starting XI.

As for the approach by their owner....I'm not sure it is necessarily a good thing to brag about "giving away" someone youve spent £100m on, or spending massive sums on players who are 31 or have 1 year left on their deal. Lukaku could be back in a year, with his £15m wages.

Time will tell how it all plays out, whether the balance will be there on the pitch and what the future implications are for some of the current financial decisions.

posted on 14/7/22

Chelsea need a proper centre forward, not sure who though as otherwise it looks physically lite weight up front. Probably need another CB as well.

posted on 14/7/22

I think Chelsea are in a world of trouble with their new ownership.

This whole thing is heading south.

posted on 14/7/22

comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Arsenal shat it on 16/01/22 - Todger (U18109)
posted 18 minutes ago
Can’t say I’m too bothered about Chelsea’s purchases so far - Sterling for Lukaku is a downgrade for me and a 31 year old defender from Napoli who has never played in the Prem. Koulibaly is a very good defender, but so we’re both Christensen and Rudiger - so I don’t see how you have improved.

I look at what we’ve done and we’ve solved our LWB issue, bought arguably the best CM outside the top 6 clubs in the league and signed Brazils number 9. Were likely to resolve RWB by the weekend with Djed Spence, leaving us a dominant CB away from a completed squad.

Bring on the new season I say
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Didn’t your lot just sign a 33 year old wing back from the Italian league with no PL experience

posted on 14/7/22

comment by Pranks - Going for the JA LFC FF 3peat (U22336)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Arsenal shat it on 16/01/22 - Todger (U18109)
posted 18 minutes ago
Can’t say I’m too bothered about Chelsea’s purchases so far - Sterling for Lukaku is a downgrade for me and a 31 year old defender from Napoli who has never played in the Prem. Koulibaly is a very good defender, but so we’re both Christensen and Rudiger - so I don’t see how you have improved.

I look at what we’ve done and we’ve solved our LWB issue, bought arguably the best CM outside the top 6 clubs in the league and signed Brazils number 9. Were likely to resolve RWB by the weekend with Djed Spence, leaving us a dominant CB away from a completed squad.

Bring on the new season I say
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Didn’t your lot just sign a 33 year old wing back from the Italian league with no PL experience
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Yes - on a free

Next question

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 14/7/22

comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Arsenal shat it on 16/01/22 - Todger (U18109)
posted 39 minutes ago

Can’t say I’m too bothered about Chelsea’s purchases so far - Sterling for Lukaku is a downgrade for me and a 31 year old defender from Napoli who has never played in the Prem. Koulibaly is a very good defender, but so we’re both Christensen and Rudiger - so I don’t see how you have improved.

I look at what we’ve done and we’ve solved our LWB issue, bought arguably the best CM outside the top 6 clubs in the league and signed Brazils number 9. Were likely to resolve RWB by the weekend with Djed Spence, leaving us a dominant CB away from a completed squad.

Bring on the new season I say
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Not the point. Boehly clearly gives af, which we were told wasn't gunna be the case... repeatedly. Whether this proves to be a successful transfer window, and how it contrasts with Spurs', is a different debate.

No argument on yours so far btw, solid additions

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 14/7/22

comment by Raheemer (U5245)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago

Devil

It has been very enjoyable watching them slowly realise that the Chels are going absolutely fecking nowhere
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Nice name change

posted on 14/7/22

comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 57 minutes ago
Just koulibaly and sterling makes it a better window than spurs tbh. Spurs have been big on numbers in but low on quality. I suspect Chelsea and spurs aren't done spending yet, but my gut instinct says Chelsea will get a better calibre of player, and finish above spurs next year.
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Why do you compare everything to Tottenham ?

posted on 14/7/22

comment by Devil (U6522)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Arsenal shat it on 16/01/22 - Todger (U18109)
posted 39 minutes ago

Can’t say I’m too bothered about Chelsea’s purchases so far - Sterling for Lukaku is a downgrade for me and a 31 year old defender from Napoli who has never played in the Prem. Koulibaly is a very good defender, but so we’re both Christensen and Rudiger - so I don’t see how you have improved.

I look at what we’ve done and we’ve solved our LWB issue, bought arguably the best CM outside the top 6 clubs in the league and signed Brazils number 9. Were likely to resolve RWB by the weekend with Djed Spence, leaving us a dominant CB away from a completed squad.

Bring on the new season I say
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Not the point. Boehly clearly gives af, which we were told wasn't gunna be the case... repeatedly. Whether this proves to be a successful transfer window, and how it contrasts with Spurs', is a different debate.

No argument on yours so far btw, solid additions
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Of course he gives af, he has just invested a load of money into buying the club.

I suspect he will think similarly to Levy, keep buying enough quality to ride the CL gravy train. We effectively get a 5th spot in 2024, and my guess is that within 5 years the Prem will have 6 CL spots

posted on 14/7/22

comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Arsenal shat it on 16/01/22 - Todger (U18109)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Pranks - Going for the JA LFC FF 3peat (U22336)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Arsenal shat it on 16/01/22 - Todger (U18109)
posted 18 minutes ago
Can’t say I’m too bothered about Chelsea’s purchases so far - Sterling for Lukaku is a downgrade for me and a 31 year old defender from Napoli who has never played in the Prem. Koulibaly is a very good defender, but so we’re both Christensen and Rudiger - so I don’t see how you have improved.

I look at what we’ve done and we’ve solved our LWB issue, bought arguably the best CM outside the top 6 clubs in the league and signed Brazils number 9. Were likely to resolve RWB by the weekend with Djed Spence, leaving us a dominant CB away from a completed squad.

Bring on the new season I say
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Didn’t your lot just sign a 33 year old wing back from the Italian league with no PL experience
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Yes - on a free

Next question
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You didn’t mention cost
you mentioned age, Italian league, and no PL experience hence my comment

posted on 14/7/22

Are Chelsea going to move to a back four next season?

posted on 14/7/22

Is Chelsea happy that they missed out on Raphinha?

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 14/7/22

comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago

Are Chelsea going to move to a back four next season?
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Who knows. I've given up trying to predict what's in Tuchel's head.

He definitely could in theory now Rudiger & Christensen have gone (with Koulibaly in), but we'd need to revert to the back 3 if one of Chilwell or James got injured again. Azpi can barely handle CB in the 3 anymore let alone FB. And Alonso as a WB is weak, but as a FB is the definition of absolute garbage

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 14/7/22

comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 3 minutes ago

Is Chelsea happy that they missed out on Raphinha?
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I'm not bothered personally. None of Sterling, Raphinha or Dembele inspired me tbh, whichever one we signed would've invoked the same levels of meh in me

posted on 14/7/22

I read that the back five wasn’t just because of the cb’s but because of the midfield. It left too many holes and having the security of three cb’s, which also suited the defenders, best suited them out of possession.

I still think your squad needs a lot of work to get up to the standards of Liverpool and City, so will be interesting to see how you go about addressing that.

There’s obviously immediate needs you are looking at strengthening, but I wonder it the new owner might take a more patient approach to squad building in a way Abramovich never did.

posted on 14/7/22

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 18 seconds ago
Just koulibaly and sterling makes it a better window than spurs tbh. Spurs have been big on numbers in but low on quality. I suspect Chelsea and spurs aren't done spending yet, but my gut instinct says Chelsea will get a better calibre of player, and finish above spurs next year.
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Chelsea have had to replace lost players.

Koulibaly is no better than Rudiger and now they have a CB pairing with a combined age of 69.

Sterling is an upgrade on Werner, but they still lack a striker unless they go Havertz false 9 all season, which will be some what odd, with little fall back.

I'd take SPurs front line over CFCs, easy. Midfiled is much of a muchness..both focussing on functional players rather than silky ballers.

Defensively, Chelsea have great wing backs and probably the edge with their CBs, although really they need to add another to their starting XI.

As for the approach by their owner....I'm not sure it is necessarily a good thing to brag about "giving away" someone youve spent £100m on, or spending massive sums on players who are 31 or have 1 year left on their deal. Lukaku could be back in a year, with his £15m wages.

Time will tell how it all plays out, whether the balance will be there on the pitch and what the future implications are for some of the current financial decisions.

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Spurs have a better attack but Chelsea could land a good striker. They also have a mf and defence I'd say is much better. Squad wise their squad is also much stronger. I'm sure spurs fans will disagree but spurs have bought lots of players but few improve the first 11.

A good attack alone doesn't win anything as Newcastle found out. A solid mf and defense and u can win trophies even without a striker. City have. Chelsea have lots of goalscorers in mf. Their mf is a dif level in terms of quality. One real issue I'd say is their coach. I'm not convinced by him. As a coach, ignoring his spending record, Conte is a better coach I feel.

Chelsea cb may be old but they are top class. Same argument could apply to perisic, who's nearly 34 and never played in a league that is one of the most demanding, in one of the hardest positions. Yet all spurs fans I've seen are convinced he will succeed. Of say he has more chance of failure than koulibaly tbh.

Window still has some time I just found it funny how some spurs fans got excited and wrote Chelsea off. I always said they'd buy and buy big and the quality of heir signings has been on another level I feel. Sterling is a winner and at a good age, and benefits from a run of games. Only the most deluded spurs fan would say theyd take perisic over sterling ๐Ÿ˜‚

The 1 year on sterling's contract is moot tbh cos they have the player, and his value now is larger than what they paid. If there would be a queue for him.on a free, which there def would be, then it's good business.

comment by JFDI (U1657)

posted on 14/7/22

comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 49 minutes ago
I read that the back five wasn’t just because of the cb’s but because of the midfield. It left too many holes and having the security of three cb’s, which also suited the defenders, best suited them out of possession.

I still think your squad needs a lot of work to get up to the standards of Liverpool and City, so will be interesting to see how you go about addressing that.

There’s obviously immediate needs you are looking at strengthening, but I wonder it the new owner might take a more patient approach to squad building in a way Abramovich never did.
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He didn't to start with but I. Recent seasons the changes weren't drastic, he had his occasional whim like Lukaku.

The new owners don't need to go drastic as we did in the early days.

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 14/7/22

Chelsea cb may be old but they are top class. Same argument could apply to perisic, who's nearly 34 and never played in a league that is one of the most demanding, in one of the hardest positions. Yet all spurs fans I've seen are convinced he will succeed. Of say he has more chance of failure than koulibaly tbh.
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I do think it's kinda funny that now he's joining us all of a sudden his quality is in doubt. You can question the decision to spend that kind of money on a player his age, and certainly question the four year deal, but his quality hasn't been in question for approx 4-5 years now.

He wouldn't look out of place signing for Pool or City what so ever, Pool fans would absolutely cream themselves thinking about him & VVD together

posted on 14/7/22

comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 3 hours, 39 minutes ago
I’m not sure one summer is indicative of what’s to come, in fairness.
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To some spurs fans on here not even a summer was indicative of what was to come

posted on 14/7/22

There’s a lot of stupid Spurs fans.

Devil, I think there’s always going to be question marks over the quality of the top defenders in Italy given how low the standard of defending is there nowadays.

Tomori and Smalling went there and were among the top performers, and they can’t even get in an England squad that’s lacking quality at cb.

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