So, lets use a formula that makes Liverpool the best. What a surprise.

Let's ignore Leicester, or for that matter anyone else, just in case they are better than Liverpool.

Oh and I am guessing Salah really did win the Golden boot last season as well. And they added the PL points up wrong, coz Liverpool did, in fact win the title as well last year.

In fact Liverpool are best at every single thing. If it was tiddly winks, they would of course be the best at that too.

comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 32 minutes ago
2) excludes Charity Shields for obvious reasons

So obvious no one can figure out why?
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Because it is literally a fundraiser.

2nd place in the league can compete for it. Just an entertaining curtain raiser, nothing more.

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So we can discount the Super Cup as well.

I'm glad we've sorted that out.

comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 15 minutes ago
So, lets use a formula that makes Liverpool the best. What a surprise.

Let's ignore Leicester, or for that matter anyone else, just in case they are better than Liverpool.

Oh and I am guessing Salah really did win the Golden boot last season as well. And they added the PL points up wrong, coz Liverpool did, in fact win the title as well last year.

In fact Liverpool are best at every single thing. If it was tiddly winks, they would of course be the best at that too.
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Salah did win the golden boot last year unless Kane claimed some of sons goals.

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Metro, ur gonna need a bigger boat

comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 34 minutes ago
So, lets use a formula that makes Liverpool the best. What a surprise.

Let's ignore Leicester, or for that matter anyone else, just in case they are better than Liverpool.

Oh and I am guessing Salah really did win the Golden boot last season as well. And they added the PL points up wrong, coz Liverpool did, in fact win the title as well last year.

In fact Liverpool are best at every single thing. If it was tiddly winks, they would of course be the best at that too.
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What a tit

comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Boudewijn Pahlplatz (U15867)
posted 31 minutes ago
What does net spend mean?
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It allows us to differentiate the clubs who have to disassemble their squad in order to build it up again from those who just splurge til their hearts are content… a la City
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Tbf - and I'm not defending City or Chelsea, Liverpool spent as much of David Moores money as he would allow before he had enough and sold up, writing off about £60m. Liverpool then spent as much as they could under the 2 cowboys, almost going to the wall before receiving another bailout in the shape of FSG.

comment by (K̇ash) I'm still the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 2 hours, 43 minutes ago
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 7 minutes ago
No reason why the English Super Cup should be discounted, especially if you’re including the League Cup & UEFA Super Cup.

I’m assuming you did that to make it more favourable to Liverpool.
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UEFA super cup needs you to win one of the big European trophies which is something Arsenal cannot do. Its one for the elites.
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The CL and Europa League aren't elite competitions.

I mean the Europa League sounds like a made-up competition on a video game that doesn't have the license to refer to the actual competition.

And the CL is a soon-to-be-defunct competition, which is such a commercial failure that even the teams participating in it tried to leave and form their own tournament (which will happen soon anyway).

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 32 minutes ago
2) excludes Charity Shields for obvious reasons

So obvious no one can figure out why?
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Because it is literally a fundraiser.

2nd place in the league can compete for it. Just an entertaining curtain raiser, nothing more.

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So we can discount the Super Cup as well.

I'm glad we've sorted that out.
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What charity is it played for?

And who can compete in it without winning a trophy?

Cost per Premier League title using the OP's figures:-

1) United - £91m
2) Chelsea - £223m
3) City - £238m
4) Liverpool - £659m.

comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 32 minutes ago
2) excludes Charity Shields for obvious reasons

So obvious no one can figure out why?
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Because it is literally a fundraiser.

2nd place in the league can compete for it. Just an entertaining curtain raiser, nothing more.

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So we can discount the Super Cup as well.

I'm glad we've sorted that out.
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What charity is it played for?

And who can compete in it without winning a trophy?

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The only charity I've seen is allowing Liverpool to compete 4 years ago when City won all the domestic trophies and Liverpool won fek all.

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 34 minutes ago
Cost per Premier League title using the OP's figures:-

1) United - £91m
2) Chelsea - £223m
3) City - £238m
4) Liverpool - £659m.
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Why stop at PL? That’s just weird.

What is it for CL ?

comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 34 minutes ago
Cost per Premier League title using the OP's figures:-

1) United - £91m
2) Chelsea - £223m
3) City - £238m
4) Liverpool - £659m.
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Why stop at PL? That’s just weird.

What is it for CL ?
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The PL season is just about to start, you greeted everyone with a comment about it just starting.

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 34 minutes ago
Cost per Premier League title using the OP's figures:-

1) United - £91m
2) Chelsea - £223m
3) City - £238m
4) Liverpool - £659m.
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Why stop at PL? That’s just weird.

What is it for CL ?
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The PL season is just about to start, you greeted everyone with a comment about it just starting.
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And …

Ah yes, one of the extremely rare times when Liverpool finish top of a table, by finishing bottom Vs some other big clubs

comment by TENƎꓕ (U17162)
posted 20 minutes ago
Ah yes, one of the extremely rare times when Liverpool finish top of a table, by finishing bottom Vs some other big clubs
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We’re top of the only one that counts.

The most successful team in English football history.

comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 3 hours, 17 minutes ago
Neither Chelsea and Man City should not be on the list. Both finanvially doped, and neither would have won a bean without their sugar daddies.
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Says the guy supporting a club where their chairman called Lord Sugar saved them from going under.

I like the net spend comparison generally, though of course it doesn’t take everything into account.

The problem with it in this article though is the length of time.

Liverpool’s transfer record over the past decade is fantastic. At a time when big money has been thrown around, they’ve done very well indeed.

Conversely, their transfer record in the 90’s was laughable.

Thing is, inflation in football has been so high that we this helps to paint Liverpool in a better light than United when actually, United have had a period of time - possibly even longer - where their transfer dealings were just as good, if not better.

The other issue is of course… ‘trophies’.

Let’s be honest, nowadays it’s all about the CL and the league. Back in the 90’s, I’d say the FA Cup and UEFA cup held more weight.

It’s the one criticism of Liverpool at present but, it’s hardly Klopp’s fault that he’s timed this spell at Liverpool when there’s a financial juggernaut like City with one of the best coaches in the game ever.

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
I like the net spend comparison generally, though of course it doesn’t take everything into account.

The problem with it in this article though is the length of time.

Liverpool’s transfer record over the past decade is fantastic. At a time when big money has been thrown around, they’ve done very well indeed.

Conversely, their transfer record in the 90’s was laughable.

Thing is, inflation in football has been so high that we this helps to paint Liverpool in a better light than United when actually, United have had a period of time - possibly even longer - where their transfer dealings were just as good, if not better.

The other issue is of course… ‘trophies’.

Let’s be honest, nowadays it’s all about the CL and the league. Back in the 90’s, I’d say the FA Cup and UEFA cup held more weight.

It’s the one criticism of Liverpool at present but, it’s hardly Klopp’s fault that he’s timed this spell at Liverpool when there’s a financial juggernaut like City with one of the best coaches in the game ever.
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A reasonable post.

I disagree with the timeframe being a problem. It’s still measured against the trophies won in that same timeframe.

To use 10 years would be cherrypicking.

The inflation point is somewhat negated by the fact that your player sales are also inflated. So net is a great equaliser. All the above teams have operated with the same parameters over the same period.

As for trophies, yes, Liverpool ought to be winning more league titles. I do think we’re a well run club and our transfer policy is excellent. I see the youth players coming though and things are encouraging.

Metro, I don’t think that’s right.

Firstly, the number of trophies up for grabs has pretty much stayed as a constant.

A club with a bad transfer policy in the 90’s might have splashed the cash, with a relatively high net spend and wasted £50 million.

A club with a bad transfer policy in the previous decade with the same approach might have wasted five times that amount.

Same time period, same bad transfers, but the value of waste would be far higher.

Net spend per Champions league

Man City £ ERROR

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 hours, 40 minutes ago
Metro, I don’t think that’s right.

Firstly, the number of trophies up for grabs has pretty much stayed as a constant.

A club with a bad transfer policy in the 90’s might have splashed the cash, with a relatively high net spend and wasted £50 million.

A club with a bad transfer policy in the previous decade with the same approach might have wasted five times that amount.

Same time period, same bad transfers, but the value of waste would be far higher.
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Fair point

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Make that 17 for Liverpool