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comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 4/8/24

Lots of your fans are saying it's just meaningless friendlies kicking a ball about. I think they're wrong in the sense that they are meaningful. And you've shown no progress. Worrying stuff but bring on the ignorant comments.

posted on 4/8/24

Only Onana and Rashford were regular starters. Collyer looked the part, AWB and Casemiro didn't, nor Sancho. Hopefully bye bye to all three.
Also we played some very good stuff.
Last season there were quite a few comments that they would accept a bad result if we played well. Not so much now.
ETH in.

posted on 4/8/24

comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
Lots of your fans are saying it's just meaningless friendlies kicking a ball about. I think they're wrong in the sense that they are meaningful. And you've shown no progress. Worrying stuff but bring on the ignorant comments.
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Well they are partly relevant, but neither side had their first team out, and we played some good stuff.

posted on 4/8/24

Didnt watch, but i've read we played quite well last night when our 'strongest' 11 was on?

posted on 4/8/24

For those who are still unaware of the fact, from a sporting perspective, preseason friendlies are 99% about fitness.

posted on 4/8/24

comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
For those who are still unaware of the fact, from a sporting perspective, preseason friendlies are 99% about fitness.
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70% fitness, 30% momentum

posted on 4/8/24

comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
For those who are still unaware of the fact, from a sporting perspective, preseason friendlies are 99% about fitness.
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Yeah, and this. In Ten Hag's first pre season we looked brilliant, and then were a complete disaster when the PL kicked off.

This pre season seems to have been managed a bit better than last year's in terms of the amount of travelling we're doing and players getting more than 45 mins per game, which hopefully benefits us.

I'm not going to worry too much about results and performances from a team with about 3 or 4 players who are actually going to start for us.

posted on 4/8/24

comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
For those who are still unaware of the fact, from a sporting perspective, preseason friendlies are 99% about fitness.
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Yeah, and this. In Ten Hag's first pre season we looked brilliant, and then were a complete disaster when the PL kicked off.

This pre season seems to have been managed a bit better than last year's in terms of the amount of travelling we're doing and players getting more than 45 mins per game, which hopefully benefits us.

I'm not going to worry too much about results and performances from a team with about 3 or 4 players who are actually going to start for us.
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Not at all worried about any of them.

I am a little concerned about Fulham though. They beat us at OT last season and we are going to be without Rasmus, Yoro and with about 6 players who will have had just the community shield to get some sharpness in the legs.

That game could literally be anything. Nobody in the football world is going to massively shocked if we win that game or even if we lose it.

posted on 4/8/24

comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 14 minutes ago
For those who are still unaware of the fact, from a sporting perspective, preseason friendlies are 99% about fitness.
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Unless you are Sir Alex.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QxEgaj2g4fg

Hilarious story.

"And you, you little sh1111t with your fcking long hair"

Fergie was a serial savage.

posted on 4/8/24

I think we’ll beat Fulham but we have a few tough games after

posted on 4/8/24

comment by Robberto Garnacho (U22716)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
For those who are still unaware of the fact, from a sporting perspective, preseason friendlies are 99% about fitness.
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70% fitness, 30% momentum
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Nah, Robb.

Bruno, Mainoo, Dalot, Martinez, Shaw and Slabberz may all start on opening day. Zirkzee may, Ugarte may; who knows.

Last night has zero bearing on what happens against Fulham

posted on 4/8/24

^ Forgot Garnacho as well.

posted on 4/8/24

comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Robberto Garnacho (U22716)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
For those who are still unaware of the fact, from a sporting perspective, preseason friendlies are 99% about fitness.
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70% fitness, 30% momentum
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Nah, Robb.

Bruno, Mainoo, Dalot, Martinez, Shaw and Slabberz may all start on opening day. Zirkzee may, Ugarte may; who knows.

Last night has zero bearing on what happens against Fulham
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Pre season friendlies are mostly meaningless I agree.

The issue with what you've just said is most of those players will have had 60-90mins of pre season at the very most and one of them hasn't even signed for us.

Fulham should have their best 11 in better condition than we will.

posted on 4/8/24

I've seen enough amazing preseasons followed by terrible starts to the league and vice versa to not read masses into how convincing our performances are. The number of senior players coming back late after the Euros / Copa, however, suggests we may be in for a slow start.

posted on 4/8/24

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Robberto Garnacho (U22716)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
For those who are still unaware of the fact, from a sporting perspective, preseason friendlies are 99% about fitness.
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70% fitness, 30% momentum
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Nah, Robb.

Bruno, Mainoo, Dalot, Martinez, Shaw and Slabberz may all start on opening day. Zirkzee may, Ugarte may; who knows.

Last night has zero bearing on what happens against Fulham
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Pre season friendlies are mostly meaningless I agree.

The issue with what you've just said is most of those players will have had 60-90mins of pre season at the very most and one of them hasn't even signed for us.

Fulham should have their best 11 in better condition than we will.
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Yeah, there are two choices: play our underprepared first team; or play a mixture of squad players and kids who are largely inferior to Fulham’s players.

It’s the price we pay for stupid international football.

posted on 4/8/24

I think cos the pre-season window was so short, a trip overseas wasn’t worth it. But we gotta get that bag of money.
I think there could be some truth to what yer saying Rosso, and maybe take us aboot 3/4 games to get proper going.

posted on 4/8/24

We need another CB and a CM in quick. If Casemiro is starting games regularly we can forget about this season.

posted on 4/8/24

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 3 minutes ago
We need another CB and a CM in quick. If Casemiro is starting games regularly we can forget about this season.
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Collier will cement a place I think.

posted on 4/8/24

comment by Trump 2024- Let's make America great again. (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 3 minutes ago
We need another CB and a CM in quick. If Casemiro is starting games regularly we can forget about this season.
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Collier will cement a place I think.
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Yeh, Collyer looks the real deal… his only mistake last night and we got punished for it..albeit their goal was offside, but hey ho…
But this kid is clear of Scott.
I just don’t think we can risk the Mid with a pairing of a Mainoo and Collyer. Maybe a bit too soon for them.

posted on 4/8/24

comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Trump 2024- Let's make America great again. (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 3 minutes ago
We need another CB and a CM in quick. If Casemiro is starting games regularly we can forget about this season.
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Collier will cement a place I think.
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Yeh, Collyer looks the real deal… his only mistake last night and we got punished for it..albeit their goal was offside, but hey ho…
But this kid is clear of Scott.
I just don’t think we can risk the Mid with a pairing of a Mainoo and Collyer. Maybe a bit too soon for them.
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What do we think of Amrabat? Can we loan him again

posted on 4/8/24

comment by Trump 2024- Let's make America great again. (U9692)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 3 minutes ago
We need another CB and a CM in quick. If Casemiro is starting games regularly we can forget about this season.
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Collier will cement a place I think.
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He's managed by ETH, that means overly gradual in his process. Collyer too is not ready yet either.

posted on 4/8/24

Firstly let me start off by saying that I still think ETH should have been sacked.

That said, I don’t think we have played that badly in the States.

We were going well against Arsenal until the injuries to Rasmus and Yoro. We played well against Betis and I thought we played some good stuff against the dips.

The disaster aspect is the injuries.

posted on 4/8/24

comment by Trump 2024- Let's make America great again. (U9692)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 3 minutes ago
We need another CB and a CM in quick. If Casemiro is starting games regularly we can forget about this season.
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Collier will cement a place I think.
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Jesus wept.

posted on 4/8/24

comment by Trump 2024- Let's make America great again. (U9692)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Trump 2024- Let's make America great again. (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 3 minutes ago
We need another CB and a CM in quick. If Casemiro is starting games regularly we can forget about this season.
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Collier will cement a place I think.
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Yeh, Collyer looks the real deal… his only mistake last night and we got punished for it..albeit their goal was offside, but hey ho…
But this kid is clear of Scott.
I just don’t think we can risk the Mid with a pairing of a Mainoo and Collyer. Maybe a bit too soon for them.
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What do we think of Amrabat? Can we loan him again
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Not sure what’s happening there… but yeh, d take him back. Does have a tendency to not be aware position wise and gets caught out.
But at least he’s fit.
I dunno what’s up with Casa… but he gotta hit the ground running, cos I think we are past giving time to experience players to find their form.

I want Ten Hag to be more ruthless this season, cos his neck is on the line. Trust in players can only go so far

posted on 4/8/24

I’ve not watched any of our pre season games this season. But the idea we have no game plan in pre season is boooollocks.

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