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posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 20 minutes ago
and I also don’t think it’s a particularly complicated issue.

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the why arent you running the United Nations if you have all the answers.

It is actually probably the most complicated problem of out time
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Where did I say I had the answers? If you actually read it properly I said the situation is pretty straightforward. Finding a resolution is an entirely different issue, and likely impossible as no one will be the first to climb down.

Problem on here is too many people trying to pass themselves off as superior, yet their basic reading and comprehension skills are shiite.
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Your take on the, supposedly, straightforward situation is Iran is the aggressor (through Hamas, Hezbollah & the Houthi's) and the actions of Israel, collateral deaths/injuries, settlements in the West Bank, illegal imprisonment of Palestinians (plus physical/mental/sexual abuses within) are a result of self defence by Israel and the IDF?
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Here’s a shock, Annie completely making up a narrative and putting words into people’s mouths. I’ve merely stated what I believe to be the overall situation, I’ve not defended or blamed anyone. You’re boringly predictable
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Thought it was a reasonable question to ask. I haven't put words in your mouth FFS, nor have I said you've blamed or defended anyone. You said

"But if you think the numbers alone can show you who the aggressor is and who’s at fault then I’d say that you’re being way too simplistic"

Who is the aggressor in your opinion?
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All sides have committed acts that have caused escalation. I’ve said before that Israel have undoubtedly been waiting for a trigger to do what they’re currently doing. So I guess the question is whether Hamas were acting independently with the attack, in which case it was foolhardy to put it politely, or were they acting on the instructions of Iran? Either way, everyone would have known how Israel would react, so why trigger them? That’s not me excusing Israel btw, which I’ve said numerous times.

But that quote you’ve posted was me responding to the suggestion that because Israel have killed more than the opposition then they must be the aggressors. That’s a bit thick imo. If Hamas and Hezbollah had the same resources as Israel, then death tolls would likely be more even. And how many lives would have been lost if Israel didn’t have the dome defence?

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by (K̇ash) - Welcome to Mo Trafford - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 1 minute ago
Israels got to go

1 state solution. Equal rights for every jew, muslim and Christian. Call it Palestine

Zionists are the problem as well as US and its proxies
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Feckin hell, you’re a raving psychopath.
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What for asking for equal rights for all?
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And you think that’s all he wants?

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
Cvnts on both sides causing the suffering of millions of people who have nothing to do with it.
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Comments like this too though
You making it sound like it's a fair fight or something..a few cvnts vs a nation is not one of them 'cvnts on both sides' things...esp when 100'000's of innocent, non cvnts are getting killed by one side.
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He’s not wrong though, is he? Iran are using the likes of Hamas and Hezbollah as proxies to carry out attacks on Israel, and Israel are responding indiscriminately.
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i didn't say he was wrong, it's just a very very simplistic view, which i feel people use to justify this madness that we are all witnessing.
I don't have any dog in this fight...but just looking at the numbers alone...tells me all i need to know about 'sides' and who's the aggressor.

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I don’t think anyone is justifying anything, and I also don’t think it’s a particularly complicated issue. Iran wants to wipe Israel from existence and Israel don’t care what collateral damage they cause in order to prevent this, whilst also pursuing their own agendas of land grabbing. If you want to feel superior by accusing others of being simplistic then crack on, but the truth is it is a pretty straightforward scenario.

But if you think the numbers alone can show you who the aggressor is and who’s at fault then I’d say that you’re being way too simplistic, and that you’re actually more biased than you realise.
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This is spot on.
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How is it that people are still coming out with this claptrap? This does not start with Iran wanting to destroy Israel. Unbelievable how programed people are to still be coming out with what is honestly an extremely silly statement at this points in time when the info and history gas been made as clear as it's ever been. There is a reason Israel is losing support across the world.

How is it not clear by now that it's Israel that wants to create a Jewish ethnostate that includes Palestine and the west wants an inlet in to the middle east and it's wealth?
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There’s blame on both sides in this and every other war in history. Trying to blame one side in isolation is honestly as stupid as it gets.

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

But that quote you’ve posted was me responding to the suggestion that because Israel have killed more than the opposition then they must be the aggressors. That’s a bit thick imo.
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Ok, if i slapped you in the face one day then you went on a month rampage and killed my whole family and friends for that slap...would i be the aggressor in that situation and do you think your actions are appropriate?

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Welcome to Mo Trafford - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 1 minute ago
Israels got to go

1 state solution. Equal rights for every jew, muslim and Christian. Call it Palestine

Zionists are the problem as well as US and its proxies
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Feckin hell, you’re a raving psychopath.
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What for asking for equal rights for all?
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And you think that’s all he wants?
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I want peace
End of the genocide
End of Apartheid
11100 Palestinians hostages released
I want children to be tried in juvenile courts not military ones
I want America to stop vetoing all the resolutions that the un puts forward to protect its buddy
I want the convicted terrorist in the Israel government to be in the hague with the rest of the lekud party

List goes on settlers, mowing the lawn, stealing land

Hezbollah and Hamas are a by product of Israel brutality and aggression. They haven't always been there so to blame them is pretty thick tbh

comment by N2 (U22280)

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

There's no place in this world for that naazi regime.

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
But that quote you’ve posted was me responding to the suggestion that because Israel have killed more than the opposition then they must be the aggressors. That’s a bit thick imo.
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Ok, if i slapped you in the face one day then you went on a month rampage and killed my whole family and friends for that slap...would i be the aggressor in that situation and do you think your actions are appropriate?
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If you beheaded my child I would go on a month rampage, and kill your whole family and sleep perfectly at night to be fair.

It is horrible on all sides.

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
There's no place in this world for that naazi regime.
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Is there anything more wrong than calling Israel a naaazi regime?!

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
But that quote you’ve posted was me responding to the suggestion that because Israel have killed more than the opposition then they must be the aggressors. That’s a bit thick imo.
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Ok, if i slapped you in the face one day then you went on a month rampage and killed my whole family and friends for that slap...would i be the aggressor in that situation and do you think your actions are appropriate?
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If you beheaded my child I would go on a month rampage, and kill your whole family and sleep perfectly at night to be fair.

It is horrible on all sides.
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Who beheaded a child? I mean seriously who did that? There is literally no proof whatsoever that any child was beheaded

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

So many idiots peddling israel propaganda

I give up

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

For the sake of clarity. Not for one second do I condone anything the IDF is going. It’s war crimes, and I hate that we as a country have any involvement in the atrocities being committed.

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
But that quote you’ve posted was me responding to the suggestion that because Israel have killed more than the opposition then they must be the aggressors. That’s a bit thick imo.
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Ok, if i slapped you in the face one day then you went on a month rampage and killed my whole family and friends for that slap...would i be the aggressor in that situation and do you think your actions are appropriate?
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If you beheaded my child I would go on a month rampage, and kill your whole family and sleep perfectly at night to be fair.

It is horrible on all sides.
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Who beheaded a child? I mean seriously who did that? There is literally no proof whatsoever that any child was beheaded
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Some white guy said it so it must be true.

comment by N2 (U22280)

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
There's no place in this world for that naazi regime.
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Is there anything more wrong than calling Israel a naaazi regime?!
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That's the attitude that let's them get away with it.

Which naazi trait do the Israeli regime not have?

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 20 minutes ago
and I also don’t think it’s a particularly complicated issue.

++++

the why arent you running the United Nations if you have all the answers.

It is actually probably the most complicated problem of out time
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Where did I say I had the answers? If you actually read it properly I said the situation is pretty straightforward. Finding a resolution is an entirely different issue, and likely impossible as no one will be the first to climb down.

Problem on here is too many people trying to pass themselves off as superior, yet their basic reading and comprehension skills are shiite.
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Your take on the, supposedly, straightforward situation is Iran is the aggressor (through Hamas, Hezbollah & the Houthi's) and the actions of Israel, collateral deaths/injuries, settlements in the West Bank, illegal imprisonment of Palestinians (plus physical/mental/sexual abuses within) are a result of self defence by Israel and the IDF?
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Here’s a shock, Annie completely making up a narrative and putting words into people’s mouths. I’ve merely stated what I believe to be the overall situation, I’ve not defended or blamed anyone. You’re boringly predictable
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Thought it was a reasonable question to ask. I haven't put words in your mouth FFS, nor have I said you've blamed or defended anyone. You said

"But if you think the numbers alone can show you who the aggressor is and who’s at fault then I’d say that you’re being way too simplistic"

Who is the aggressor in your opinion?
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All sides have committed acts that have caused escalation. I’ve said before that Israel have undoubtedly been waiting for a trigger to do what they’re currently doing. So I guess the question is whether Hamas were acting independently with the attack, in which case it was foolhardy to put it politely, or were they acting on the instructions of Iran? Either way, everyone would have known how Israel would react, so why trigger them? That’s not me excusing Israel btw, which I’ve said numerous times.

But that quote you’ve posted was me responding to the suggestion that because Israel have killed more than the opposition then they must be the aggressors. That’s a bit thick imo. If Hamas and Hezbollah had the same resources as Israel, then death tolls would likely be more even. And how many lives would have been lost if Israel didn’t have the dome defence?
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Suggesting it's simply down to numbers is an equally simplistic counter argument IMO.

It's also things like restricting aid, electricity, water and food. Missile strikes on hospitals, ambulances, schools or refugee camps. Proven allegations of torture by IDF soldiers. Extra judicial imprisonment without trial (in abusive conditions). The settlement programme, largely ignored despite being deemed illegal etc etc. All of this has been going in for decades, long before Oct 7th.

I agree with Antonio Gutierrez's when he condemned the Oct 7th terrorist attack while acknowledging the possible reasons it took place. Namely the Israeli government's continual (mis)treatment of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza.

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
There's no place in this world for that naazi regime.
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Is there anything more wrong than calling Israel a naaazi regime?!
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That's the attitude that let's them get away with it.

Which naazi trait do the Israeli regime not have?
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Do you think being deliberately inflammatory and, at best, trivialising the holocaust is the right attitude to have?

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

Never again......unless its to muslims

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
There's no place in this world for that naazi regime.
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Is there anything more wrong than calling Israel a naaazi regime?!
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That's the attitude that let's them get away with it.

Which naazi trait do the Israeli regime not have?
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Do you think being deliberately inflammatory and, at best, trivialising the holocaust is the right attitude to have?
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What do you call this then?

https://x.com/eyeonpalestine/status/1843274680968630472?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
But that quote you’ve posted was me responding to the suggestion that because Israel have killed more than the opposition then they must be the aggressors. That’s a bit thick imo.
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Ok, if i slapped you in the face one day then you went on a month rampage and killed my whole family and friends for that slap...would i be the aggressor in that situation and do you think your actions are appropriate?
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If you beheaded my child I would go on a month rampage, and kill your whole family and sleep perfectly at night to be fair.

It is horrible on all sides.
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That was not even close to the analogy i used though...

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Welcome to Mo Trafford - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 1 minute ago
Israels got to go

1 state solution. Equal rights for every jew, muslim and Christian. Call it Palestine

Zionists are the problem as well as US and its proxies
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Feckin hell, you’re a raving psychopath.
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What for asking for equal rights for all?
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And you think that’s all he wants?
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You read minds now, or are you putting words in Salah Time's mouth?
What else do you think he wants?

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

question

who's side do you think Peks is on in all this ?

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by (K̇ash) - Welcome to Mo Trafford - Free Pales... (U1108)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
But that quote you’ve posted was me responding to the suggestion that because Israel have killed more than the opposition then they must be the aggressors. That’s a bit thick imo.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Ok, if i slapped you in the face one day then you went on a month rampage and killed my whole family and friends for that slap...would i be the aggressor in that situation and do you think your actions are appropriate?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you beheaded my child I would go on a month rampage, and kill your whole family and sleep perfectly at night to be fair.

It is horrible on all sides.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who beheaded a child? I mean seriously who did that? There is literally no proof whatsoever that any child was beheaded
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Some white guy said it so it must be true.
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Yeah, lets be serious here. Hamas only slaughtered a 1000 people in an attack a year ago which of course had nothing to do with what we are seeing now.

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Welcome to Mo Trafford - Free Pales... (U1108)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
But that quote you’ve posted was me responding to the suggestion that because Israel have killed more than the opposition then they must be the aggressors. That’s a bit thick imo.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Ok, if i slapped you in the face one day then you went on a month rampage and killed my whole family and friends for that slap...would i be the aggressor in that situation and do you think your actions are appropriate?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you beheaded my child I would go on a month rampage, and kill your whole family and sleep perfectly at night to be fair.

It is horrible on all sides.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who beheaded a child? I mean seriously who did that? There is literally no proof whatsoever that any child was beheaded
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Some white guy said it so it must be true.
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Yeah, lets be serious here. Hamas only slaughtered a 1000 people in an attack a year ago which of course had nothing to do with what we are seeing now.
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Hamas cane into existence in 1987 to fight back against Israel's apartheid in Palestine. Hamas is a result of Israel's apartheid. This didn't start on October 7th.

You know these things as you've been told a thousand times, but somehow it just doesn't get through. The programing and propaganda is too strong.

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

Israel coc suckers love this "both sides" narrative because deep down they know it's Israel that's the original aggressor and the main excuse for the existence of Hamas, Hezbollah etc is to fight Israel's expansionism and apartheid.

Israel coc suckers always start the other way around. With Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran as the aggressors when that is patently, provably and demonstrably not the case. Are they blind or just extremely stoopid?

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

Look how happy Palestinians were before the violent white European colonisers came in and forced them out of their homes.

https://x.com/menavisualss/status/1843313334881534392?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 21 minutes ago
question

who's side do you think Peks is on in all this ?
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You'll having some weird genetic reasoning dating back to the 12th century BC as to why you prefer one group of people over the other. Am I right to assume that?

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