What on earth has Bernie done to this sport?
Teams spend fortunes trying to develop the fastest cars and Pirelli produce such tyres that need 5 pit stops.
The teams have also spent a lot of time and money trying to understand why their cars are unable to manage their tyres only for Pirelli to then change the compound and they have to start all over again.
I suppose it is easy for Pirelli to simply alter a few dials on their manufacturing process computer and hey presto the teams have to then try to understand the new compound.
Last Sunday we had the ridiculous scenario of Lewis Hamilton running in 15th position being told he had to slow down.
The FIA have also done their best to ruin the sport with their 2014 rule changes. They wanted to encourage other manufacturers to join F1 and the manufacturers they approached insisted on the 2014 rule changes to bring F1 more into line with their road cars. The FIA obliged and the manufacturers all pulled out claiming that F1 was irrelevant to road cars.
The Turbo engines will cost double what engines cost now and the cars will be 5 secs a lap slower.
Formula 1 or Formula Pirelli or F RoadCar ?
posted on 16/5/13
he's got a good point there.
posted on 16/5/13
comment by Marcus Agrippa (U14412) "you sad people are obsessed with all these wild way off the mark conspiracy theories about Ferrari"
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I don't think you have read the previus posts correctly.
MUDD stated that he did not believe "the conspiracy teorists" a term that he used in a general way not specifically aimed at a JA606 member.
Aristodemus (U3765) comments regarding Ferrari are completely valid as any F1 follower should know.
posted on 16/5/13
Mr Agrippa, you would do well to read and understand a post before commenting. It would prevent you from making erroneous statements
posted on 16/5/13
There are more overtakes due to tyres falling off the cliff than skill JPB.
posted on 16/5/13
McLaren Honda, brings back fond memories. Honda will find unfortunately that the current McLaren outfit are not as competent as the previous version
posted on 16/5/13
If that comment was aimed at me, then I never said anything remotely like Ferrari were at the centre of a ongoing conspiracy.
I like the sound of McLaren getting factory backing though, otherwise they could possibly fall like Williams did when BMW left. Pretty good engine manufacturer to have for V6 turbo's too.
posted on 16/5/13
comment by JPB 606 (U16152) “he's got a good point there.”
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Marcus Agrippa (U14412) certainly does not have a good point there.
The comments regarding the USA, tyres and Ferrari relate to the controversy at a particular GP. F1 followers know that. You, for obvious reasons don't.
CVC, the F1 rights holder has published in their offer document that Ferrari receive special payments over and above the payment they get for constructor points. No other competitor is entitled to such payments. The offer document also revealed, what we all knew anyway, that Ferrari have the right to veto any change to the rules. No other competitor has a veto.
Back in the days before Bernie signed his deals with the teams, Ferrari would hold racetracks to ransom by refusing to attend a race meeting unless they received a special attendance fee that no other team could get.
Bernie changed all that but had to agree to the special arrangements that only Ferrari would have.
JPB – My advice to you is that you should stay clear of the motorsport section until you grow up. Stick to what you know best - posting on articles that have nothing to do with sport like BBC apprentice for example.
posted on 17/5/13
There are more overtakes due to tyres falling off the cliff than skill JPB.
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it may be a factor, but look how many overtakes there were in the first 3 laps in the last 2 grand prix. probably about as many as youd get in a whole season a few years back.
posted on 17/5/13
JPB, the point you are missing here is that those overtakes are cheap. In F1 overtaking shows talent and skill as it's not easy and when a great one happens, you remember it. For example Alonso taking Schumi at Suzuka and Hamilton taking Kimi at Monza.
Those moves stick in your mind because they were phenomenal not some button pressing crappy drs move.
Listen to the commentary and you will find the commentators are always quick to distinguish between a drs overtake and a regular move on track.
I'm not trying to diss you here but what Bernie has done is pander to the casual fan who just wants to see overtaking without a challenge.
I can assure you that the biggest problem with overtaking is down to aerodynamic aids on the cars. Ban them all and you will see improvements.
The reason why a lot of people were drawn to Alonso, Kimi and Hamilton is that inspite of how difficult it was to overtake the, they were still pulling off overtakes before these systems came in to help others who are not as talented like our current F1 world champion.
posted on 17/5/13
The writing was on the wall at Bahrain.
Vettel pitted early and rejoined the race in 5th place but was 3 secs a lap faster than the cars in front of him. Within 4 laps he was in the lead.
4 brilliant overtakes? Well not really - each of the 4 cars pitted on the lap they were “overtaken”.
There was no need to change the compounds in any season. Pirelli are just a supplier of components. Imagine if Brembo decided it was time to shake things up a little to produce more entertainment.
The pre-season testing was irrelevant as far as tyres were concerned. The Jerz track is too abrasive and not like any track they would race on and the temperatures at both test tracks were too low to be of any use for evaluating tyre wear.