Does loyalty work both ways?

I get where your coming from but the answer is no. Any player would realise that if a ridiculous sum of money came in the fans not minding selling for that price is hardly 'unloyal' its more of a case that they would be fools to not see how much it will help the team.

loyalty has completely gone imo from todays game and even todays world. if i was offered a new job which paid me even as low as £1k more a year i would take that job, its just common sense

the only circumstance where loyalty is applicable though is through club ties like our own steven gerrard. thats relatable to perhaps working in a family business and not wanting to let your family down

It's a bit different if someone is already on crazy money than a normal everyday worker moving for more money. If a footballer is on 100k a week and then moves for 120/130 is it really gonna make much difference?

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If a footballer is on 100k a week and then moves for 120/130 is it really gonna make much difference?

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Yes, its a huge difference. its almost 8million over 5 years.

No matter how much money you earn, if someone offers you an extra 30% you are certainly going to consider it.

No matter how much money you earn, if someone offers you an extra 30% you are certainly going to consider it.

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Hard to argue with that.

clubs aren't 'loyal' to players unless they're first team/XI and might be worth keeping or they've contributed so much they'd have a PR problem not being 'loyal' to them

I don't see any reason why players should be loyal back

If a player is poor are the club loyal? No, they want rid quick. Its give and take, if im good pay me more....the same in any walk of life.

The problem with football is some fans think the players should love the club like the fans....they dont; its still the same...money...money..money.

I dont mind so much if a player (or manager) wants to move on to improve his career but i disapprove of players choosing clubs for wages alone.

I know the old argument that we would all move companies for more money if it was us but being a footballer should be different (IMO), it should be more about wanting to enhance your career - not just the bank balance.

As for being paid a large sum of money to support a different club, of course i would agree to do it, but there is no way i could change my mind-set to actually do it.

I'd just be an extremely rich closet fan.

To me loyalty by a player is not simply about whether they stay or leave the club. If I was a massive Exeter City fan and played for them and an EPL club came in for me I'd be off...says nothing about loyalty but everything about ambition.

The manner in which I leave is what is important IMO. A player can be ambitious and who can blame any player for moving if Real Madrid came in for them....but if like Modric they force that move through in an underhand way, if they sign new deals, take their pay rise and then suddenly want off, if like Suarez, they very openly court another club then that is where loyalty has evaporated....if the player shows no respect to the club and the fans, to serve their own purposes (whether money or ambition) then that is what I hate.

Players who have been supported through bad times by the clubs/fans (whether extended injury or controversy) I think also owe a debt to the club/fans and should look to repay that faith before looking to pursue their ambition.

The way the likes of Teddy left Spurs is so different to how Berba/Modric forced their way out .

It reflects life. Some people have a concious an act in a certain way and others less so and their actions are often purely selfish.

No one could blame Bale for pursuing his ambition but you get the impression he will do so with a concious, and for that most would let him leave with their blessing (and a min £80m fee ).

Even Ronaldo left the biggest club in the biggest league to join the worlds biggest club, so no other club can seriously expect any of their player to stay with them for ever.

As for the loyalty of fans, it is the fickleness of the modern day fan that really gets me. The willingness to slag off their own players really winds me up and is what will eventually drive me away from attending games as it is more prevalent with every new season