First of all, I don't want to talk about 'brown paper bags' or corruption. FIFA is a dodgy enterprise at best, and I'm sure there have been many less than transparent decisions made throughout the years..
I actually grew up in the city of Doha, and have spent over 10 years living in Qatar in two separate stints, so I would say I'm far more informed than most to be able to make these comments. The point I want to make is that surely one of the points of the world cup (or football in general) is to try and help to unite people through sport. Having read this BBC article (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23640800) and some of the comments on there it seems to me that there are a lot of incorrect and xenophobic preconceptions. People are saying things such as "Single men aren't allowed into shopping malls" and "there are no pubs". These sort of things are patently untrue and ridiculous.
I think that actually having the World Cup there will help to break down some of the barriers we have with Islam and help to create a much better understanding for the ill-informed masses. The only problem for most westerners is that you will have to adapt to the culture which is very different from our own. At the same time they will undoubtedly make allowances and adapt to meet the needs of the masses in order to not hinder the experience. People seem to think that they will be walking around all day in 50C heat, but that's just ridiculous. People that live in these countries know that you don't spend your time outside, you just go inside where there's air conditioning etc. Admittedly Qatar isn't the most interesting place on earth, but you can't always just give World Cups to places with a rich history.
The amount of money that Qatar have to waste on this, I foresee them making every effort to cater for visitors... if anything the facilities will be fantastic and luxurious. They will most likely have large air conditioned temporary venues where alcohol can be purchased (much like they already do in more liberal places like Dubai/ Abu Dhabi and possibly in Doha already) and hotels/ restaurants are al 5* and great quality. It's possible that it might be a more expensive destination for a lot of people however, but world cups are rarely cheap)
The only difference is that you can't just go and get legless and walk around the streets mouthing off at people. It's called observing the local culture, and if people only want to go to see the best players in the world if they can have a drink, then frankly I don't think they should be there anywhere (lack of alcohol has been one of the main complaints i've seen). I'm sure that cultural guidelines will be given out beforehand to minimise trouble, and with the whole world looking on, I doubt the police will be particularly harsh in their treatment of foreigners.
To me it just seems like all the Brits are just scared of a bit of hot weather and the thought that it might be a bit harder to get blind drunk and stumble around making the sort of mess that British tourists are famed for.
Another stick used to beat them with is the fact that Homosexuality is illegal. It's actually fairly widespread if ignored in local populations. Maybe the massive influx of people from around the world and the media spotlight will encourage them to modernise their views in some way.
So what i'd like to ask you is do you really think it's such a bad idea?
EDIT: Bid presentation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjt7rv3fmwk
Qatar World Cup 2022 - Good Idea
posted on 10/8/13
People go out to the beach all day ffs and they don't seem to be having any problems.
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that's because they are lieing down under parasols.
posted on 10/8/13
I think the Qatari's will have to loosen their laws a little come the World Cup. Need to remember this will be a carnival/ party atmosphere for most supported going, they aren't going to want to spend their 2 weeks they've spent a fortune on I'm shopping malls and hotels, are they.
Germans, Brits, Scandinavians, Brazilians, Australians, Americans and I'm sure many others enjoy a drink. It's not just the Brits as many here make out.
posted on 10/8/13
think the Qatari's will have to loosen their laws a little come the World Cup.
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in a lot of hotels in the middle east, the normal laws dont apply. it will just be like that with laws relaed in hotels, and possibly some other areas for the duration of the tournament. minor offences in other areas will probably have a blind eye turned.
posted on 10/8/13
Similar to Dubai then
posted on 10/8/13
Haha true Busby's. People are idiots, especially when they've been drinking. I don't see why people HAVE to get drunk during a world cup though. I'm sure they'll construct cooled marquees or something with bars for the fans, but at the end of the dy it's illegal to be drunk in public. I imagine they'll be a lot more lenient, but i imagine if people are vomiting in the street they won't take too kindly to it.
Qatar has traditionally been more conservative than Dubai (as has Abu Dhabi), but there was a coup earlier this year, so let's see what the new Emir has in store. I imagine he was educated in America, so hopefully he'll be more relaxed, although countries like Saudi have a lot of influence and like to use it
posted on 11/8/13
"will help to break down some of the barriers we have with Islam and help to create a much better understanding for the ill-informed masses".............
.........so.....that would be us lot then, would it, Brennie.
Ill-informed about what exactly??
...about your medieval persecution of gay people?
...about your oppression of women?
My missus is a City fan of 30 yrs plus..
...and an England fan of 30 yrs plus....tell me....can she come and walk about Qatar in her usual short-sleeved England top??
posted on 11/8/13
Yes she can. As long as her shoulders are covered, although the authorities don't really care. Also I'm not a Muslim. You've just shown up how little you understand about the whole situation and exactly why it should be held in qatar.
posted on 11/8/13
Ignorance from a Brit, never!
posted on 11/8/13
tell me....can she come and walk about Qatar in her usual short-sleeved England top??
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posted on 12/8/13
No ignorance, my point was that I knew there were restrictions on womens dress.........that is not funny.
The very idea of staging a World Cup finals in the Middle East with the current political situation is laughable.
Here is our governments Terrorism advice on Qatar.
"You should maintain a high level of security awareness, particularly in public places. Avoid large gatherings and demonstrations."
.....make your own mind up.