I turn up they don't

From what I have read about today's match, the whole team needs a kick up the arsene wenger. If DF cannot do it then we better find someone who can, and fast.

Just totally outclassed today. Only consolation is we were beat by probably the best team in this division today. Sad seeing chungy like he is now, just can't beat a defender anymore. Hopefully ngog and eagles back next Saturday v qpr both badly missed today.

I wish I could disagree with you wressle but I dunno if I can right now. I think DF is a pretty good manager but like Owen before him I think he's stuck with some poor cards ie money for fees/wages and unrealistic expectations from us who enjoyed the BSA years. I suspect we could be in this division for at least another couple of years. To those who say we can't afford to be I'd simply say that I want us to go up but I don't think we have the quality in depth to do it. I'm not even sure our "best" 11 would be good enough to go up. That said this is a bonkers league as last season's results showed. And it could be worse, we could be the plastic wanderers who dropped, then dropped again.

I have family over for the whole month of August so I won't be commenting much. When I heard the result I thought it was possibly defensive errors again but from reading the comments it would seem we had little to offer from all members of the team.

Hopefully they, the team, will get a swift kick up the arris and win our next game, otherwise it could turn out to be a repeat of the start we had last season.