FA Proposals

I'd only lower age to 15 and that's it

Making clubs play a certain number of HG players will only increase the supply of HG players in absolute numbers, but it does not necessarily mean there will be more quality HG players as a result of that.
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I agree, above actually that in the short term standards will drop. But rules and strategies are created for 10 year terms and you have to start somewhere. And as clubs are forced to rely on these players more and more, they will have to improve their coaching and scouting standards to compete.

And this is not just a feeling that is particular to the FA. The Italians, Spanish and recently by the Front National in France, Greece means its only going to grow whether Arsenal fans who are used to more foreign based teams like it or not. Funnily enough, Arsenal are probably the best geared to deal with the fall out compared to other teams.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 6 hours, 49 minutes ago
We should all take a minute to remember that Jenius was desperate for Arsenal to sign Thomas Ince a year ago.
He would rather Arsenal were fighting relegation with an all English team than being successful with a host of French players.

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Persecute me for being English and liking English players in England.

And you wonder why UKIP is rising in this country and I am not even lilly white.

And by the way the only player I have really supported over Arsenal in my life is Henry (who I have met). A French Black man.

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Forcing teams to play more English players doesn't make them better if they are not naturally talented enough.

We need a proper training system. Create the b teams and/or partnership clubs. Improve academies. Create football apprenticeships. Promote football in School by forming more county and national competitions. Try and get kids off their playstations and play outside more. Make certain age groups play 11 a side's on smaller pitches. Introduce 5/6 a side leagues for kids. Introduce a certain playing style that works at a young age. Keep them playing that style from then and to the seniors. Reward teams for playing and keeping English players but don't force them.

Some if not all of these will do much more than what they are proposing

DJ

IMO Resources simply need to be pumped into football facilities that are free to use for all. Get the country back into playing football, kids, their dads etc... Take a % of every Prem transfer or some sort of Pro football tax that goes directly to grass roots - these aren't great ideas but this is where they need to start.

Growing up around where I did the best place we could find for footy was a muddy field where goal posts were only up during match days. This is hardly encouraging youngsters to practice outside of organised training sessions and match days (which parents pay through the nose for).

As an adult I paid anything from £5 to £12 for a quick game of footy on a tiny AstroTurf pitch. 11 aside was occasionally better value but more often than not it's the same awful pitches that are more suited to rugby than they are to football.

As a country we need to make playing footy a normal part of life again, might help our growing obesity issues too.

The next thing we need to do is get more qualified coaches. Off set the cost of coaching badges with funds from the Prem. Also, youngsters who drop out of academies should be encouraged into coaching - not necessarily as a career but an extra string to their bow.

The quotas are an absolute joke and bottle job by the FA.

comment by Super Kami Guru (U9880)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Forcing teams to play more English players doesn't make them better if they are not naturally talented enough.

We need a proper training system. Create the b teams and/or partnership clubs. Improve academies. Create football apprenticeships. Promote football in School by forming more county and national competitions. Try and get kids off their playstations and play outside more. Make certain age groups play 11 a side's on smaller pitches. Introduce 5/6 a side leagues for kids. Introduce a certain playing style that works at a young age. Keep them playing that style from then and to the seniors. Reward teams for playing and keeping English players but don't force them.

Some if not all of these will do much more than what they are proposing
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Spot on

I think the problem is that would quite clearly put a lot of pressure on the FA to pull it off and they're all to happy to simply point fingers and change rules rather than actually put in solid large scale work.

Jenius I agree that it may improve quality, but it is a very inefficient method of doing so and the roof is far lower than if others have been saying we improve the roots of the game.

England have always had a particular style that no other nation chooses to use, bar maybe the home nations. Wales have progressed far more than England. Bale and Ramsey would be Englands two best players.

Are you trying to convince us that these players deserve to be part of the Arsenal first team? That they would improve vastly so they are not struggling to get games in the lower leagues but turning England into a power in international football?
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No what I am saying is that Arsenal should have fired Liam Brady long before they did if they had taken seriously the problem that they weren't producing talent good enough to start. And if you want to know my opinion on Brady just google BBC 606.

This is the problem with most academies at the moment. The clubs don't take coaching nor setups seriously enough. And there are good academies but they are just in the minority. Just look at Southampton for an academy that is working.

I have not once said that I am advocating all English quotas. My view is that you have to look past the club and manager self-interest. The only way to do that is force teams to start taking their responsibilities to the community seriously.