Logic

Ok, lets beg to differ on the brand of football Jose's teams play. Even if he bought exciting football to Man u,do you not feel that he would just drag your clubs name down in the dirt, with his 'unsportmanship' antics, arguing with everyone and their dog, and even the way he hung his players out this season, and lets not start on his complete lack of faith in youth players. It just seems like wherever he goes, it'a all good for a year or 2 then it always seems to go horribly wrong, then he is sacked.

People need to get real in their expectations about what Jose will do with this squad as it stands when waxing lyrical about squads he's had at his disposal with his previous clubs

Like I said he ain't perfect but ask fans of every club he managed and I would guess all but the real ones would have good things to say. But when have real fans had anything good to say about their managers.

Maybe, just my opinion. After Wenger, i personally wouldn't like my club to go for someone that stands against so many of the principals that he has used to make us a successful club over the last decade or so, with SAF it's been over 2 decades, but maybe thats just how the game is nowadays, mercernery players and managers all over.

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Agree with a of the above, I find it a little hypocritical to want Jose in now when people have been calling for LVG's head for the reasons stated.

Results aren't good enough, simple as that. I'd prefer to wait u till the summer and go for Pep, but I won't be shedding any tears of Jose is brought in.
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^ This. We could do worse than Jose as a stop gap manager but I'd rather have Pep because I don't actively dislike him!

Also, Jose's failure this season is far, far worse than LVG's so it seems odd to suggest Jose is the obvious solution imo. Usually the managers take all the blame but in Jose's case it is all the Chelsea players' fault for some reason...If Jose lost the dressing room then surely he is at least partly to blame for that?


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yes, jose's failure this season is far worse than lvg's.

but then jose's past decade is a mile better than lvg's.

one thing i do find curious is that the united fans who are saying that you can't judge lvg on the past few months are more than willing to judge mourinho on the past 6 months. whereas at the beginning of this season mourinho had only one genuine rival for the title of best manager in the world.
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That's fascinating but I said no such thing. Of course you can - and should - judge LVG on the last few months just as you can - and should - judge Jose on his last six months.

I think perhaps you meant to respond to someone else?

mu82, appreciate your explanations.

Hard to imagine JM's completely lost his mojo, you'd have to fancy him initially doing a job wherever he went.

At the same time though, it seems to me he's becoming increasingly short-fused and somewhat random in his administration of justice. I think players respect a tough manager as long as they can see a coherence and consistency to his reasoning. Perhaps that's why he's been finding it harder to deal with trouble.

I'm also under the impression he doesn't really love/enjoy the job as he might have in his earlier years and that he's grown weary of having to handle the egos of the people under his charge.

Who knows though, maybe the United job motivates him more than anything he's donein recent years and that helps him to keep his head screwed on longer.

So to clarify, people agree Jose is the better manager (out of him and LVG) and is the best available candidate (after Pep who many believe is off to city) if LVG is sacked, and yet are having a go at others for wanting Jose??

Some of you lot really are mental

So to clarify, people agree Jose is the better manager (out of him and LVG) and is the best available candidate (after Pep who many believe is off to city) if LVG is sacked, and yet are having a go at others for wanting Jose??
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I am not sure there are many who thought Jose was the 2nd best candidate for the job who didn't want him...

Let alone the majority.

Most people I saw who said they didn't want him (such as myself for example) do not think he is the 2nd best candidate for the job at all.

Who actually said they think he's the 2nd best candidate but they didn't want him?

comment by Reddevils double (U12215)
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So to clarify, people agree Jose is the better manager (out of him and LVG) and is the best available candidate (after Pep who many believe is off to city) if LVG is sacked, and yet are having a go at others for wanting Jose??

Some of you lot really are mental
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This is why I asked you to read the article which you have not read properly.

The point here is that people have been moaning about boring football under LvG but want to hire a manager cut from the same cloth.

No one is arguing about the qualities or successes of the managers but those who want beautiful football.

So to clarify, these people actually want results over everything else, so their criticisms of LvG not playing beautiful were not genuine as now they have finally confessed to being result oriented.

Hope that clears it up

I think it's more of a case of LVG not providing results OR beautiful football isn't it?