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Bastien again

So Schweiny played his final match for Germany and....among the national team's fans, there really does seem to be surprise and even a little anger towards his exclusion by Jose Mourhino.

So, I'm wondering what people really think is the reason. I know this has been discussed a lot but I thought I'd consolidate the reasons I've heard.

(1) JM simply thinks BS no longer cuts it as a top notch premier league player and feels that he would be below Fellaini, Herrera, Schneiderlin and Carrick is the race to play alongside Pogba.

(2) Similar to the above but more that he doesn't fit into JM's style as well as those above would.

(3) That he's concerned about his injury record and doesn't want to build the team on that risk.

(4) Realises that he has quite a few over thirties (Rooney, Zlatan, Carrick) and doesn't want more as part of his core team.

(5) BS was close to LVG (signed by him in 2015 but also managed by him previously). JM doesn't want that history in the dressing room?

(6) Some kind of personality clash/something said.

Thoughts?

posted on 4/9/16

comment by Yes way Jose (U5768)
comment by The Aussie one (U20351)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
posted 1 hour ago
It's not a fair point, though. That's why I'm calling you an idiot.
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Mamba gets way too much grief on here. VC is the one who should get a lashing
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Yeah the Liverpool fans seem to really dislike him....
Top man.
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You wish This is just more wishful thinking from another Manc, just like the OP. The Liverpool board loves me lol, 'course I'm a top man.

The OP is trying to come out with reasons for his terrible treatment but all those reasons are flimsy as Darren the king felchēr's participation in this thread. A lot of clubs have many unwanted players all the time but you rarely see them treated like Bastian. You know this is true. It's an embarrassment but still desperate to find that one excuse that will stick, when there really isn't.

I know the truth hurts but let's be civil here and not just start abusing posters and imagining (or wishing) they are disliked just because you don't want to hear it. A minority of you are calling it like it is, the rest are jumping from one excuse to another trying to make it stick. I'm sorry but it's pathetic and a characteristic of the post Fergie United fan, being deluded and all.

posted on 4/9/16

comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
It's not, you obviously didn't read the op and just started mouthing off. Or you did, but you have comprehension issue, which is the most likely.
Nah Member brings it all on himself by being a thick twaaat all the time, Rob.
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Of course I bring it on myself, I welcome it. When you tell Mancs the facts they love to ignore then you know what's coming, otherwise I wouldn't tell them the facts. In fact, its quite enjoyable seeing you lose your rag, talk absolute nonsense and start calling me names.

Coming from the king Felchēr it's pure gold.

posted on 4/9/16

Think you got the wrong end of the stick there Mamba, I was saying that VC wasn't liked by the Liverpool fans, well you and Robb and that he was a top man.

As for the rest of your crazy rant, post Fergie United has been more successful than Liverpool, so if we are pathetic what does that make Klopp's group of failures?

posted on 4/9/16

6 am Member meltdowns.

posted on 4/9/16

comment by Yes way Jose (U5768)
Think you got the wrong end of the stick there Mamba, I was saying that VC wasn't liked by the Liverpool fans, well you and Robb and that he was a top man.
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This is not what your post said but I take your point now that you've clarified. Its not my fault your grammar is all over the place and what you write isn't what you meant.

As for the rest of your crazy rant, post Fergie United has been more successful than Liverpool, so if we are pathetic what does that make Klopp's group of failures?
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This point isn't even relevant to the discussion, leave alone that it's nonsense.

Another characteristic of the post Fergie united fan right there.

posted on 4/9/16

comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
6 am Member meltdowns.
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Another brilliant counterargument from the felchēr. You sure showed me there.

posted on 4/9/16

There's no point arguing, you're too stupid/stubborn to accept simple points and facts. It's like talking to Maf. You're very similar to him actually, except you can spell.

You make a fool of yourself and then sit there patting yourself on the back for 'winning' an argument in which you've completely exposed your idiocy.

It's actually mind boggling how you both do this time and time again.

posted on 4/9/16

comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
There's no point arguing, you're too stupid/stubborn to accept simple points and facts.
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You have to actually make simple points and facts before you can come out with this. You haven't made any.

It's like talking to Maf. You're very similar to him actually, except you can spell.
You make a fool of yourself and then sit there patting yourself on the back for 'winning' an argument in which you've completely exposed your idiocy.
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I win all my arguments. I'm on a lifetime unbeaten streak against you especially.

It's actually mind boggling how you both do this time and time again.
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No it's not. You just don't like that I own your arris all the time. Its why you abuse me rather than make points and state facts, because if you did you wouldn't stand a chance.

posted on 4/9/16

So deluded.

posted on 5/9/16

Another brilliant counterargument.

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