Morning people, hope you had a good weekend. Another valuable 3 points in the bag with goals from young men that we should be the future of the club. In any event, my brothers and I were discussing Fergie's departure and the lack of succession planning at the club which led to Moyesie.
One of the components of that was looking at Klopp and him not taking up the mantle at Utd but then taking the Liverpool job. After a back and forth, we kind of all agreed that Klopp turned down the Utd job because he was scared of following Fergie.
Taking the Liverpool job was easier for him as the club has not done anything since 1990 and it probably was easier for him as expectations would be tempered compared to Utd.
I do enjoy the way Liverpool play football and I wonder how Klopp would have done at Utd. Maybe it was beneficial to us as he did not have the bottle to hack it at our level.
What do you guys think?
Klopp and Fergie
posted on 6/11/18
Yeah, I can actually feel myself improving.
posted on 6/11/18
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yeah they do what they want.
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A bit childish for you.
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Possibly but I just feel it's a very flakey case and I'm certain the FA did their best to return a guilty verdict which isn't right really. The way they took the statements is testament to that and for all the 'Suarez admitted it' stuff he didn't admit to racially abusing him. At all.
Its all very subjective and Suarez paid the price. That's it really.
posted on 6/11/18
The FA doesn't care if you have a good case.
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Take your tin foil hat off. The FA had to throw one out only last week.
posted on 6/11/18
comment by No Love - Monumentally Dope. (U1282)
posted 6 minutes ago
Suarez by his own mouth admitted referencing skin colour. He was abusing Evra whilst doing it. Therefore he was guilty according to their laws.
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That's what the kangaroo panel told you and being a Manc that was it for you.
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No, that is what Suarez said. Part of his whole defence was about how the words he used had different meanings in different countries/cultures. There was no denial that he referenced skin colour. He also admitted under questioning that he pinched Evra and that it wasn't friendly, after initially claiming it was done in an attempt to console Evra (which is laughable).
You should actually try reading the report.
posted on 6/11/18
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yeah they do what they want.
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A bit childish for you.
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Possibly but I just feel it's a very flakey case and I'm certain the FA did their best to return a guilty verdict which isn't right really. The way they took the statements is testament to that and for all the 'Suarez admitted it' stuff he didn't admit to racially abusing him. At all.
Its all very subjective and Suarez paid the price. That's it really.
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No, he didn't admit to racially abusing him. But if you look at the FA's rules/laws in detail, as I did at the time, then he was technically guilty and he gave up that evidence himself by admitting that he referenced the colour of Evra's skin.
I thought that the reasoning behind the FA's verdict was perhaps questionable. At the time I wasn't convinced he would/should be found guilty. Nor do I think he is a racist. However, on reflection, I do think that guilty was the correct verdict and I am quite sure that he was referencing Evra's skin colour to get a response. It was a risky game and he paid the price.
posted on 6/11/18
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yeah they do what they want.
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A bit childish for you.
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Possibly but I just feel it's a very flakey case and I'm certain the FA did their best to return a guilty verdict which isn't right really. The way they took the statements is testament to that and for all the 'Suarez admitted it' stuff he didn't admit to racially abusing him. At all.
Its all very subjective and Suarez paid the price. That's it really.
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No, he didn't admit to racially abusing him. But if you look at the FA's rules/laws in detail, as I did at the time, then he was technically guilty and he gave up that evidence himself by admitting that he referenced the colour of Evra's skin.
I thought that the reasoning behind the FA's verdict was perhaps questionable. At the time I wasn't convinced he would/should be found guilty. Nor do I think he is a racist. However, on reflection, I do think that guilty was the correct verdict and I am quite sure that he was referencing Evra's skin colour to get a response. It was a risky game and he paid the price.
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Think that is a fair post Elvis
posted on 6/11/18
and I am quite sure that he was referencing Evra's skin colour to get a response.
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I think this is a conclusion anyone who has ever played the game will probably come to.
Especially when you consider Nibble previous behavior.
posted on 6/11/18
I said at the time, before the verdict, that I would be surprised if he was found guilty. Have to admit that I didn't realise how high the FA's conviction rate was at the time. After the verdict and the report came out I looked at the FA's laws/rules in more detail and I think that got the right verdict, but possibly took the wrong route to get there.
I would also add that you should maybe take a look at the FA's conviction rate and what it relates to. If you add in the red cards that are overturned, they conviction rate falls significantly. There are few other factors that make the conviction rate a bit more acceptable. I read on article on it a few years back, but can't find it right now.
posted on 6/11/18
Klopp doesn't have whiskeynose
Klopp is better
posted on 5/7/20
I think you are a typical bitter United fan