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Summer window

So it has been established that Liverpool are not likely to spend big this summer and after reading the BBC article about who the Top 6 and what they need this summer, I noticed names such as Fekir, Brandt and Werner's names popping up.

Now the verdict is that Liverpool are not in need of these 3 players and I understand their are a few complications with the players such as agent fees, whether they'd actually move etc but I feel these 3 would be exactly what Liverpool need to match City, especially after coming so close this season.

Looking at the squad depth City have for their front 3, you've got Sterling, Aguero and Bernardo Silva and then options such as Sane, Jesus and Mahrez. 6 players of fantastic quality and the latter 3 can come into the team and when they do, the City team does not look much (if any) weaker at all. With Liverpool, if you replace any of the current front 3 with Shaqiri, Origi or Sturridge, the attacking threat already looks weaker. However, if Firmino/Salah/Mane were to get injured and they were to be replaced with the likes of Brandt/Fekir/Werner, much like City, the attacking threat still looks as strong as it did.

Pair that alongside another full back on either side and Liverpool then, imo, would be capable of matching/surpassing City. Now I don't think this is realistic with what has been said in the last few days, but with Brandt available for a measly £21.5m in today's market and Fekir entering his last year of contract for example. This would be as good a time as any to sign them.

To reiterate, I do not think this is realistic, but imagine if it did happen.

posted on 16/5/19

comment by JimmyTheRed (U1682)
posted 42 minutes ago
Wilson has demonstrated his quality time and again. It's now time to bring him back home where he belongs.

Any request for a transfer should be rejected.

I don't expect Clyne to return, I wish him well. Ditto Grujic, a very good player, but is he of sufficient quality to replace Sturridge?

Milner? Yet another fantastic servant of the club, I envisage a job on the staff as well as continuing to play.
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grujic is a midfielder not a striker

posted on 16/5/19

Liverpool were lucky this season with injuries and should have signed a player in January. Once again we repeated the mistake of 2014 of not bringing in reinforcements and narrowly missing out on the title. Bringing in Shaq instead of Fekir looks costly now.

I expected us to raise 80-100m in funds from sales and with the Champions League run, sponsorship deals etc we should have at least 150m to play with. Hopefully that means at least 3/4 players who can challenge for the first team as if we don't improve we won't challenge City.

posted on 16/5/19

comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 4 minutes ago
I read that Pool won't sign a player for more than 15 million but did laugh tbh.
They look to make a fair amount just in selling their loose ends, whilst generating a tonne of cash.
Even then it amazes me no one seems to notice the position pool need the most is a lb. Robertson doesn't get injured much but now moreno is going a new lb is essential more than anything else imo
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If Milner is offered a new contract I think he and Gomez will cover lb.

Camacho may leave but he's got talent and can cover fb with Gomez.
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I think gomez was better than van when I watched him for pool before his injury. Lb or rb tho he looks nowhere as good. Milner isn't getting younger and is nowhere near as effective. A good young left footer would be essential with moreno going I think
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There are some good lbs about too like Chilwell and Tierney but I doubt either will want to play second fiddle


That's the only problem with having an absolute beast at full back. We have a similar issue with our front three.
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That is one of the reasons why I don't think this article is realistic. Why would any of Brandt, Fekir or Werner move to be 2nd choice. It's always a tough ask to sign the quality players as back up.

I'm surprised I've heard Liverpool mentioned about Sancho tbh. Young, English, quality wide man, would develop under Klopp and his Dortmund links etc. Again though, a young lad who probably won't want to play second fiddle to the front 3.

posted on 16/5/19

the point is you don't ask anyone to come as cover.... maybe a 36 year old keeper but not an outfield player

for me:

GK: alisson. Other gk is questionable
RB: Taa, Gomez, Ki for cups maybe
LB: Robertson, clear gap here
RCB: Gomez, Matip
LVB: VVD, Lovren
No 6: fabinho, windy
No 8 (right) henderson, Ox
No 8, (left) Keita, Milner
Left forward: mane, ? clear gap here imo
Striker, Firmino, Brewster, Origi
Right forward: Salah, Shaqiri

IMO we lack quality in depth up top. Theres a question on milner as he ages for midfield and theres a gap at LB and GK.

GK can be anyone now. We are looking for a keeper cos mingolet is expensive bench warmer and wants to go.

LB: I don't see lewis getting a go from klopp, Milner can cover but only sporadically.. I can see us go buy something here that in that 10mil range...really not rocket science

Midfield: Its a debate: theres plenty of bodies there but nobody in the fekir type and thats hwy fans keep mentioning him. Ox and keita and henderson have work to do to cement thier places as no 8s. I coudl see no buys here.

a player who could play left or right side for me is where we have a gap to city. City can play mahrez or sterling or sane and even after that put in a silva wide if they needed to. Mane and salah first choice but theres room for one more to rotate there like city have done.

IMO shaqiri's problem is its right side or a no 10 which we don't play and thats it. he's shown no inclination to do the graft back so klopp doesn't use him.

and before someone suggests wilson... i cant see it. he's not quick enough and i think klopp will just loan him again.


posted on 16/5/19

I can see Wilson staying. He was given and indeed signed a five year contract and apparently given assurances.

posted on 16/5/19

comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)

I can see Wilson staying. He was given and indeed signed a five year contract and apparently given assurances.
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I hope so - it's not exactly like Shaqiri or Lallana are quick so don't think his lack of pace should be a hindrance

comment by BOD (U13924)

posted on 16/5/19

We've been linked with Lloyd Kelly of Bristol City.
Can play LB & CB. We need cover for Robertson with Moreno leaving.

Probably an experienced second choice GK if we can sell Mignolet / Karius.

A versatile attacker as cover for Mane / Salah / Firmino. Sturridge will leave, Origi will probably stay.

I think we'll see 3 or 4 signings this summer.

posted on 18/5/19

Think the key is finding players who know pool is a step up, with players and coaches that will improve them, and they will have more chance of reaching their goals.
Would u rather play 50 games in a run of the mill league or as a guaranteed starter or play 30 games and get better and push yourself?
There are these players out there I don't get the 2nd fiddle argument as a player with belief, determination and common sense knows few players play every game at a top club. Pool will be a big lure to the right players

posted on 18/5/19

comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 2 hours, 23 minutes ago
Think the key is finding players who know pool is a step up, with players and coaches that will improve them, and they will have more chance of reaching their goals.
Would u rather play 50 games in a run of the mill league or as a guaranteed starter or play 30 games and get better and push yourself?
There are these players out there I don't get the 2nd fiddle argument as a player with belief, determination and common sense knows few players play every game at a top club. Pool will be a big lure to the right players
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Yes I get that but players want to play games, especially young players.

It might not be such an issue for someone like Shaqiri coming from Stoke for example. Would have been playing Championship football if he stayed but he'd have thought maybe mid table PL at best but he's ended up in the squad of a CL team which is more than what he'd have expected.

But players like the mentioned ones, Werner, Fekir and Brandt are (currently) all going to be playing CL football next season. So why swap regular football at a CL club for a rotation role with less game time at another CL club, albeit better than their current club.

posted on 18/5/19

comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 4 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 2 hours, 23 minutes ago
Think the key is finding players who know pool is a step up, with players and coaches that will improve them, and they will have more chance of reaching their goals.
Would u rather play 50 games in a run of the mill league or as a guaranteed starter or play 30 games and get better and push yourself?
There are these players out there I don't get the 2nd fiddle argument as a player with belief, determination and common sense knows few players play every game at a top club. Pool will be a big lure to the right players
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Yes I get that but players want to play games, especially young players.

It might not be such an issue for someone like Shaqiri coming from Stoke for example. Would have been playing Championship football if he stayed but he'd have thought maybe mid table PL at best but he's ended up in the squad of a CL team which is more than what he'd have expected.

But players like the mentioned ones, Werner, Fekir and Brandt are (currently) all going to be playing CL football next season. So why swap regular football at a CL club for a rotation role with less game time at another CL club, albeit better than their current club.
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Because some players thrive on competition and it drives them to improve, whilst also contributing to a better team. Win win for the players with the right mentality

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