Must admit I thought we would turn things around, especially after that battling display against Southampton. But after Munich and today it's clearly a crisis.
I am sure plenty will blame Levy and Poch and want them out, but a) they are still the best men for the job and b) they are going nowhere.
Once again it's the players and their pathetic mentality that has cost us. For Hugo to do that in the third minute after last week's howler tells you everything about him.
Imo it's time to get back to Poch's first year. Toby, Eriksen and Jan clearly don't want to be here and it would be very difficult to be any worse than them currently. Time to drop them, play some younger players who actually want to be here.
Depressing start to the season but thankfully there is an international break coming up.
What do we do from here?
posted on 5/10/19
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
I would understand the anti Levy and pro Poch stuff if we had a team that was giving its all but just wasn't up to it. However what we have is a cracking group of players the majority of which are still in their 20's who just won't play for the manager anymore. Only dewy eyed sentiment could stop anybody noticing that we have a whole host of players who are playing several levels below where they were 2/3 years ago under the same manager.
I like Poch as a bloke but as Lou Reed said stick a fork in his ass and turn him over he's done!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They played for Poch just 2 games ago in a backs to the wall victory over Saints did they not?. There are probably 3 or 4 not giving their all and I think we all know who they are, they need to be weeded out of the team until they leave in January or the summer.
We are in transition, but it will probably be a slow process with Levy etc running the club.
posted on 5/10/19
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 5 seconds ago
Poch sounding like a guy who doesn't give a shlt in his post match presser.... no anger, no passion, just babbling about Hugo.... he's done. bet he walks with some kind of deal where the deets are kept private
----------------------------------------------------------------------
in my view.. I'm happy for us to be cut throat. hes had five years. he said it himself that he wasn't sure he would stay after the champs league final.
He can leave with my blessing as long as we sign Allegri. Time for a change of mentality. Poch has done an amazing job. Doesn't mean he is unsackable.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yup ... spot on
posted on 5/10/19
Lloris is out so no more howlers from him for the time being which should help.
Lucas needs to start games now. Lamela can be the one to come on off the bench in his place.
We need GLC, Sessegnon and Foyth coming back from injury and into the team. They will offer something else and hopefully be upgrades on the players in their positions.
Then as usual business to be done in January. Need to sell Aurier and Eriksen and bring in Dybala or whoever else.
posted on 5/10/19
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
I would understand the anti Levy and pro Poch stuff if we had a team that was giving its all but just wasn't up to it. However what we have is a cracking group of players the majority of which are still in their 20's who just won't play for the manager anymore. Only dewy eyed sentiment could stop anybody noticing that we have a whole host of players who are playing several levels below where they were 2/3 years ago under the same manager.
I like Poch as a bloke but as Lou Reed said stick a fork in his ass and turn him over he's done!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They played for Poch just 2 games ago in a backs to the wall victory over Saints did they not?. There are probably 3 or 4 not giving their all and I think we all know who they are, they need to be weeded out of the team until they leave in January or the summer.
We are in transition, but it will probably be a slow process with Levy etc running the club.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can bring up the Saints game but I can hit you with 2 points from the last 30 away from home. Stop trying to flog a dead horse.
posted on 5/10/19
Sandy be back soon, hs will sort it out
posted on 5/10/19
The sensible thing to do would be for all the fans to write a letter to Levy.
posted on 5/10/19
You really think Dybala will come to this shat show??
posted on 5/10/19
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
I would understand the anti Levy and pro Poch stuff if we had a team that was giving its all but just wasn't up to it. However what we have is a cracking group of players the majority of which are still in their 20's who just won't play for the manager anymore. Only dewy eyed sentiment could stop anybody noticing that we have a whole host of players who are playing several levels below where they were 2/3 years ago under the same manager.
I like Poch as a bloke but as Lou Reed said stick a fork in his ass and turn him over he's done!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They played for Poch just 2 games ago in a backs to the wall victory over Saints did they not?. There are probably 3 or 4 not giving their all and I think we all know who they are, they need to be weeded out of the team until they leave in January or the summer.
We are in transition, but it will probably be a slow process with Levy etc running the club.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can bring up the Saints game but I can hit you with 2 points from the last 30 away from home. Stop trying to flog a dead horse.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well he has a point though. Unfortunately individuals who should know better keep letting him and the team down. Individuals who clearly don't have a strong enough mentality in this time of crisis. He is losing players he can actually rely on, especially at the back.
At the same time he needs to treat certain players better. How can he not see what we are all seeing with Lucas to give him a fair crack?
posted on 5/10/19
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
I would understand the anti Levy and pro Poch stuff if we had a team that was giving its all but just wasn't up to it. However what we have is a cracking group of players the majority of which are still in their 20's who just won't play for the manager anymore. Only dewy eyed sentiment could stop anybody noticing that we have a whole host of players who are playing several levels below where they were 2/3 years ago under the same manager.
I like Poch as a bloke but as Lou Reed said stick a fork in his ass and turn him over he's done!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They played for Poch just 2 games ago in a backs to the wall victory over Saints did they not?. There are probably 3 or 4 not giving their all and I think we all know who they are, they need to be weeded out of the team until they leave in January or the summer.
We are in transition, but it will probably be a slow process with Levy etc running the club.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can bring up the Saints game but I can hit you with 2 points from the last 30 away from home. Stop trying to flog a dead horse.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well he has a point though. Unfortunately individuals who should know better keep letting him and the team down. Individuals who clearly don't have a strong enough mentality in this time of crisis. He is losing players he can actually rely on, especially at the back.
At the same time he needs to treat certain players better. How can he not see what we are all seeing with Lucas to give him a fair crack?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lucas treatment is just rank bad management.
Maybe Poch is trying to justify his ridiculous decision not to start him in the cl final by showing he doesn't see him as a regular starter?
posted on 5/10/19
OP says "What do we do from here?". Should've asked "Where do we go from here?"
Hence the reply, "does Lamela really wanna go wherever we are going?"